Return to Video

This is what LGBT life is like around the world

  • 0:01 - 0:03
    Jenni Chang: When I told
    my parents I was gay,
  • 0:03 - 0:05
    the first thing they said to me was,
  • 0:05 - 0:07
    "We're bringing you back to Taiwan."
  • 0:07 - 0:09
    (Laughter)
  • 0:10 - 0:14
    In their minds, my sexual orientation
    was America's fault.
  • 0:14 - 0:17
    The West had corrupted me
    with divergent ideas,
  • 0:17 - 0:20
    and if only my parents
    had never left Taiwan,
  • 0:20 - 0:23
    this would not have happened
    to their only daughter.
  • 0:23 - 0:26
    In truth, I wondered if they were right.
  • 0:26 - 0:28
    Of course, there are gay people in Asia,
  • 0:29 - 0:32
    just as there are gay people
    in every part of the world.
  • 0:32 - 0:35
    But is the idea of living an "out" life,
  • 0:35 - 0:38
    in the "I'm gay, this is my spouse,
    and we're proud of our lives together"
  • 0:38 - 0:42
    kind of way just a Western idea?
  • 0:43 - 0:47
    If I had grown up in Taiwan,
    or any place outside of the West,
  • 0:47 - 0:52
    would I have found models
    of happy, thriving LGBT people?
  • 0:52 - 0:54
    Lisa Dazols: I had similar notions.
  • 0:54 - 0:56
    As an HIV social worker in San Francisco,
  • 0:56 - 0:58
    I had met many gay immigrants.
  • 0:58 - 1:01
    They told me their stories
    of persecution in their home countries,
  • 1:01 - 1:03
    just for being gay,
  • 1:03 - 1:05
    and the reasons
    why they escaped to the US.
  • 1:05 - 1:07
    I saw how this had beaten them down.
  • 1:07 - 1:09
    After 10 years of doing this kind of work,
  • 1:09 - 1:12
    I needed better stories for myself.
  • 1:12 - 1:14
    I knew the world was far from perfect,
  • 1:14 - 1:16
    but surely not every gay story was tragic.
  • 1:17 - 1:21
    JC: So as a couple, we both had a need
    to find stories of hope.
  • 1:21 - 1:24
    So we set off on a mission
    to travel the world
  • 1:24 - 1:28
    and look for the people
    we finally termed as the "Supergays."
  • 1:28 - 1:31
    (Laughter)
  • 1:32 - 1:34
    These would be the LGBT individuals
  • 1:34 - 1:38
    who were doing something
    extraordinary in the world.
  • 1:38 - 1:40
    They would be courageous, resilient,
  • 1:40 - 1:43
    and most of all, proud of who they were.
  • 1:43 - 1:46
    They would be the kind of person
    that I aspire to be.
  • 1:46 - 1:51
    Our plan was to share their stories
    to the world through film.
  • 1:51 - 1:52
    LD: There was just one problem.
  • 1:52 - 1:55
    We had zero reporting
    and zero filmmaking experience.
  • 1:55 - 1:56
    (Laughter)
  • 1:57 - 1:59
    We didn't even know
    where to find the Supergays,
  • 1:59 - 2:02
    so we just had to trust that we'd
    figure it all out along the way.
  • 2:02 - 2:05
    So we picked 15 countries
    in Asia, Africa and South America,
  • 2:05 - 2:09
    countries outside the West
    that varied in terms of LGBT rights.
  • 2:09 - 2:10
    We bought a camcorder,
  • 2:10 - 2:13
    ordered a book
    on how to make a documentary --
  • 2:13 - 2:14
    (Laughter)
  • 2:14 - 2:17
    you can learn a lot these days --
  • 2:17 - 2:19
    and set off on an around-the-world trip.
  • 2:21 - 2:24
    JC: One of the first countries
    that we traveled to was Nepal.
  • 2:24 - 2:28
    Despite widespread poverty,
    a decade-long civil war,
  • 2:28 - 2:31
    and now recently,
    a devastating earthquake,
  • 2:31 - 2:35
    Nepal has made significant strides
    in the fight for equality.
  • 2:35 - 2:40
    One of the key figures
    in the movement is Bhumika Shrestha.
  • 2:40 - 2:43
    A beautiful, vibrant transgendered woman,
  • 2:43 - 2:47
    Bhumika has had to overcome
    being expelled from school
  • 2:47 - 2:51
    and getting incarcerated
    because of her gender presentation.
  • 2:51 - 2:56
    But, in 2007, Bhumika
    and Nepal's LGBT rights organization
  • 2:56 - 2:59
    successfully petitioned
    the Nepali Supreme Court
  • 2:59 - 3:02
    to protect against LGBT discrimination.
  • 3:02 - 3:03
    Here's Bhumika:
  • 3:03 - 3:05
    (Video) BS: What I'm most proud of?
  • 3:05 - 3:06
    I'm a transgendered person.
  • 3:06 - 3:08
    I'm so proud of my life.
  • 3:08 - 3:12
    On December 21, 2007,
  • 3:12 - 3:16
    the supreme court gave the decision
    for the Nepal government
  • 3:16 - 3:18
    to give transgender identity cards
  • 3:18 - 3:20
    and same-sex marriage.
  • 3:20 - 3:24
    LD: I can appreciate
    Bhumika's confidence on a daily basis.
  • 3:24 - 3:26
    Something as simple
    as using a public restroom
  • 3:27 - 3:29
    can be a huge challenge
    when you don't fit in
  • 3:29 - 3:32
    to people's strict gender expectations.
  • 3:32 - 3:34
    Traveling throughout Asia,
  • 3:34 - 3:36
    I tended to freak out women
    in public restrooms.
  • 3:36 - 3:39
    They weren't used to seeing
    someone like me.
  • 3:39 - 3:42
    I had to come up with a strategy,
    so that I could just pee in peace.
  • 3:42 - 3:43
    (Laughter)
  • 3:43 - 3:45
    So anytime I would enter a restroom,
  • 3:45 - 3:48
    I would thrust out my chest
    to show my womanly parts,
  • 3:48 - 3:50
    and try to be as
    non-threatening as possible.
  • 3:50 - 3:52
    Putting out my hands and saying, "Hello",
  • 3:52 - 3:55
    just so that people
    could hear my feminine voice.
  • 3:56 - 3:59
    This all gets pretty exhausting,
    but it's just who I am.
  • 3:59 - 4:00
    I can't be anything else.
  • 4:01 - 4:05
    JC: After Nepal, we traveled to India.
  • 4:05 - 4:08
    On one hand, India is a Hindu society,
  • 4:08 - 4:11
    without a tradition of homophobia.
  • 4:11 - 4:15
    On the other hand, it is also a society
    with a deeply patriarchal system,
  • 4:15 - 4:19
    which rejects anything
    that threatens the male-female order.
  • 4:19 - 4:21
    When we spoke to activists,
  • 4:21 - 4:26
    they told us that empowerment begins
    with ensuring proper gender equality,
  • 4:26 - 4:29
    where the women's status
    is established in society.
  • 4:29 - 4:34
    And in that way, the status of LGBT people
    can be affirmed as well.
  • 4:34 - 4:37
    LD: There we met Prince Manvendra.
  • 4:37 - 4:41
    He's the world's first openly gay prince.
  • 4:41 - 4:43
    Prince Manvendra came out
    on the "Oprah Winfrey Show,"
  • 4:43 - 4:44
    very internationally.
  • 4:44 - 4:46
    His parents disowned him
  • 4:46 - 4:49
    and accused him of bringing
    great shame to the royal family.
  • 4:49 - 4:51
    We sat down with Prince Manvendra
  • 4:51 - 4:55
    and talked to him about why he decided
    to come out so very publicly.
  • 4:55 - 4:56
    Here he is:
  • 4:56 - 4:58
    (Video) Prince Manvendra:
    I felt there was a lot of need
  • 4:58 - 5:03
    to break this stigma and discrimination
    which is existing in our society.
  • 5:03 - 5:08
    And that instigated me to come out openly
    and talk about myself.
  • 5:08 - 5:11
    Whether we are gay, we are lesbian,
    we are transgender, bisexual
  • 5:11 - 5:14
    or whatever sexual minority we come from,
  • 5:14 - 5:18
    we have to all unite
    and fight for our rights.
  • 5:18 - 5:21
    Gay rights cannot be won
    in the court rooms,
  • 5:21 - 5:23
    but in the hearts and the minds
    of the people.
  • 5:24 - 5:26
    JC: While getting my hair cut,
  • 5:26 - 5:28
    the woman cutting my hair asked me,
  • 5:28 - 5:30
    "Do you have a husband?"
  • 5:30 - 5:32
    Now, this was a dreaded question
  • 5:32 - 5:35
    that I got asked a lot
    by locals while traveling.
  • 5:35 - 5:39
    When I explained to her
    that I was with a woman instead of a man,
  • 5:39 - 5:40
    she was incredulous,
  • 5:40 - 5:44
    and she asked me a lot of questions
    about my parents' reactions
  • 5:44 - 5:47
    and whether I was sad
    that I'd never be able to have children.
  • 5:48 - 5:51
    I told her that there are
    no limitations to my life
  • 5:51 - 5:54
    and that Lisa and I do plan
    to have a family some day.
  • 5:55 - 5:57
    Now, this woman was ready to write me off
  • 5:57 - 5:59
    as yet another crazy Westerner.
  • 6:00 - 6:02
    She couldn't imagine
    that such a phenomenon
  • 6:02 - 6:04
    could happen in her own country.
  • 6:04 - 6:07
    That is, until I showed her
    the photos of the Supergays
  • 6:07 - 6:08
    that we interviewed in India.
  • 6:10 - 6:12
    She recognized Prince Manvendra
    from television
  • 6:12 - 6:14
    and soon I had an audience
    of other hairdressers
  • 6:14 - 6:15
    interested in meeting me.
  • 6:16 - 6:17
    (Laughter)
  • 6:17 - 6:20
    And in that ordinary afternoon,
  • 6:20 - 6:23
    I had the chance to introduce
    an entire beauty salon
  • 6:23 - 6:26
    to the social changes
    that were happening in their own country.
  • 6:28 - 6:30
    LD: From India,
    we traveled to East Africa,
  • 6:30 - 6:34
    a region known for intolerance
    towards LGBT people.
  • 6:34 - 6:38
    In Kenya, 89 percent of people
    who come out to their families
  • 6:38 - 6:39
    are disowned.
  • 6:39 - 6:43
    Homosexual acts are a crime
    and can lead to incarceration.
  • 6:43 - 6:46
    In Kenya, we met
    the soft-spoken David Kuria.
  • 6:46 - 6:49
    David had a huge mission
    of wanting to work for the poor
  • 6:49 - 6:51
    and improve his own government.
  • 6:51 - 6:53
    So he decided to run for senate.
  • 6:53 - 6:58
    He became Kenya's first
    openly gay political candidate.
  • 6:58 - 7:03
    David wanted to run his campaign
    without denying the reality of who he was.
  • 7:03 - 7:04
    But we were worried for his safety
  • 7:04 - 7:07
    because he started
    to receive death threats.
  • 7:07 - 7:09
    (Video) David Kuria:
    At that point, I was really scared
  • 7:09 - 7:13
    because they were
    actually asking for me to be killed.
  • 7:13 - 7:16
    And, yeah,
  • 7:16 - 7:18
    there are some people out there who do it
  • 7:18 - 7:21
    and they feel that they are doing
    a religious obligation.
  • 7:22 - 7:24
    JC: David wasn't ashamed of who he was.
  • 7:24 - 7:26
    Even in the face of threats,
  • 7:26 - 7:27
    he stayed authentic.
  • 7:29 - 7:32
    LD: At the opposite end
    of the spectrum is Argentina.
  • 7:32 - 7:36
    Argentina's a country where 92 percent
    of the population identifies as Catholic.
  • 7:36 - 7:40
    Yet, Argentina has LGBT laws
    that are even more progressive
  • 7:40 - 7:42
    than here in the US.
  • 7:43 - 7:47
    In 2010, Argentina became
    the first country in Latin America
  • 7:47 - 7:50
    and the 10th in the world
    to adopt marriage equality.
  • 7:50 - 7:53
    There, we met María Rachid.
  • 7:53 - 7:55
    María was a driving force
    behind that movement.
  • 7:55 - 7:58
    María Rachid (Spanish):
    I always say that, in reality,
  • 7:58 - 7:59
    the effects of marriage equality
  • 7:59 - 8:02
    are not only for those couples
    that get married.
  • 8:02 - 8:05
    They are for a lot of people that,
    even though they may never get married,
  • 8:05 - 8:08
    will be perceived differently
    by their coworkers,
  • 8:08 - 8:11
    their families and neighbors,
  • 8:11 - 8:15
    from the national state's
    message of equality.
  • 8:15 - 8:17
    I feel very proud of Argentina
  • 8:17 - 8:21
    because Argentina today
    is a model of equality.
  • 8:21 - 8:23
    And hopefully soon,
  • 8:23 - 8:28
    the whole world will have the same rights.
  • 8:28 - 8:30
    JC: When we made the visit
    to my ancestral lands,
  • 8:30 - 8:33
    I wish I could have shown
    my parents what we found there.
  • 8:34 - 8:35
    Because here is who we met:
  • 8:35 - 8:41
    (Video) One, two, three.
    Welcome gays to Shanghai!
  • 8:41 - 8:43
    (Laughter)
  • 8:46 - 8:52
    A whole community of young,
    beautiful Chinese LGBT people.
  • 8:52 - 8:54
    Sure, they had their struggles.
  • 8:54 - 8:56
    But they were fighting it out.
  • 8:56 - 9:00
    In Shanghai, I had the chance
    to speak to a local lesbian group
  • 9:00 - 9:04
    and tell them our story
    in my broken Mandarin Chinese.
  • 9:04 - 9:06
    In Taipei, each time
    we got onto the metro,
  • 9:06 - 9:09
    we saw yet another
    lesbian couple holding hands.
  • 9:09 - 9:14
    And we learned that Asia's
    largest LGBT pride event
  • 9:14 - 9:18
    happens just blocks away
    from where my grandparents live.
  • 9:18 - 9:20
    If only my parents knew.
  • 9:21 - 9:25
    LD: By the time we finished our
    not-so-straight journey around the world,
  • 9:25 - 9:26
    (Laughter)
  • 9:26 - 9:28
    we had traveled 50,000 miles
  • 9:28 - 9:30
    and logged 120 hours of video footage.
  • 9:30 - 9:32
    We traveled to 15 countries
  • 9:32 - 9:34
    and interviewed 50 Supergays.
  • 9:34 - 9:37
    Turns out, it wasn't hard
    to find them at all.
  • 9:37 - 9:40
    JC: Yes, there are still
    tragedies that happen
  • 9:40 - 9:42
    on the bumpy road to equality.
  • 9:42 - 9:47
    And let's not forget that 75 countries
    still criminalize homosexuality today.
  • 9:48 - 9:51
    But there are also stories
    of hope and courage
  • 9:51 - 9:54
    in every corner of the world.
  • 9:55 - 9:58
    What we ultimately took away
    from our journey is,
  • 9:58 - 10:01
    equality is not a Western invention.
  • 10:03 - 10:07
    LD: One of the key factors
    in this equality movement is momentum,
  • 10:07 - 10:11
    momentum as more and more people
    embrace their full selves
  • 10:11 - 10:13
    and use whatever opportunities they have
  • 10:13 - 10:15
    to change their part of the world,
  • 10:15 - 10:17
    and momentum as more and more countries
  • 10:17 - 10:20
    find models of equality in one another.
  • 10:20 - 10:24
    When Nepal protected
    against LGBT discrimination,
  • 10:24 - 10:26
    India pushed harder.
  • 10:26 - 10:28
    When Argentina embraced marriage equality,
  • 10:28 - 10:31
    Uruguay and Brazil followed.
  • 10:31 - 10:34
    When Ireland said yes to equality,
  • 10:34 - 10:38
    (Applause)
  • 10:38 - 10:40
    the world stopped to notice.
  • 10:40 - 10:42
    When the US Supreme Court
    makes a statement to the world
  • 10:42 - 10:44
    that we can all be proud of.
  • 10:44 - 10:46
    (Applause)
  • 10:51 - 10:52
    JC: As we reviewed our footage,
  • 10:52 - 10:56
    what we realized is that
    we were watching a love story.
  • 10:56 - 10:59
    It wasn't a love story
    that was expected of me,
  • 10:59 - 11:03
    but it is one filled
    with more freedom, adventure and love
  • 11:03 - 11:06
    than I could have ever possibly imagined.
  • 11:06 - 11:09
    One year after returning home
    from our trip,
  • 11:09 - 11:12
    marriage equality came to California.
  • 11:12 - 11:16
    And in the end, we believe,
    love will win out.
  • 11:19 - 11:21
    (Video) By the power vested in me,
  • 11:21 - 11:24
    by the state of California
  • 11:24 - 11:26
    and by God Almighty,
  • 11:26 - 11:30
    I now pronounce you spouses for life.
  • 11:30 - 11:31
    You may kiss.
  • 11:31 - 11:33
    (Applause)
Title:
This is what LGBT life is like around the world
Speaker:
Jenni Chang and Lisa Dazols
Description:

As a gay couple in San Francisco, Jenni Chang and Lisa Dazols had a relatively easy time living the way they wanted. But outside the bubble of the Bay Area, what was life like for people still lacking basic rights? They set off on a world tour in search of "Supergays," LGBT people who were doing something extraordinary in the world. In 15 countries across Africa, Asia and South America — from India, recently home to the world's first openly gay prince, to Argentina, the first country in Latin America to grant marriage equality — they found the inspiring stories and the courageous, resilient and proud Supergays they had been looking for.

more » « less
Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
11:50

English subtitles

Revisions Compare revisions