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This is what LGBT life is like around the world

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    Jenni Chang: When I told my parents
    I was gay,
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    the first thing they said to me was,
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    "We're bringing you back to Taiwan."
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    (Laughter)
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    In their minds, my sexual orientation
    was America's fault.
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    The West had corrupted me
    with divergent ideas,
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    and if only my parents
    had never left Taiwan,
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    this would not have happened
    to their only daughter.
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    In truth, I wondered
    if they were right.
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    Of course, there are gay people in Asia.
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    just as there are gay people
    in every part of the world.
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    But is the idea of living
    an "out" life,
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    in the "I'm gay, this is my spouse,
    and we're proud of our lives together"
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    kind of way just a Western idea?
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    If I had grown up in Taiwan,
    or any place outside of the West,
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    would I have found models
    of happy, thriving LGBT people?
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    Liza Dazols: I had similar notions.
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    As an HIV social worker in San Francisco,
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    I had met many gay immigrants.
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    They told me their stories of persecution
    in their home countries,
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    just for being gay,
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    and the reasons why they escaped the US.
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    I saw how this had beaten them down.
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    After 10 years of doing this kind of work,
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    I needed better stories for myself.
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    I knew the world was far from perfect,
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    but surely not every gay story was tragic.
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    JG: So as a couple, we both had a need
    to find stories of hope.
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    So we set off on a mission
    to travel the world
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    and look for the people we
    finally termed as "The Super Gays".
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    (Laughter)
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    These would be the LGBT invidiuals
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    who are doing something
    extraordinary in the world.
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    They would be courageous, resilient,
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    and most of all, proud of who they were.
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    They would be the kind of person
    that I aspired to be.
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    Our plan was to share their stories
    to the world through film.
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    LD: There was just one problem,
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    we had zero reporting
    and zero filmmaking experience.
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    (Laughter)
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    We didn't even know
    where to find the Super Gays,
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    so we just had to trust that we'd
    figure it all out along the way.
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    So we picked 15 countries
    in Asia, Africa and South America,
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    countries outside the West
    that varied in terms of LGBT rights.
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    We bought a camcorder,
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    ordered a book on
    how to make a documentary,
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    (Laughter)
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    you can learn a lot these days,
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    and set off on an
    around-the-world trip.
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    JC: One of the first countries
    that we traveled to was Nepal.
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    Despite widespread poverty,
    a decade-long civil war,
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    and now recently,
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    a devastating earthquake,
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    Nepal has made significant strides
    in the fight for equality.
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    One of the key figures
    in the movement is Bhumika Shrestha.
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    A beautiful, vibrant transgendered woman,
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    Bhumika has had to overcome
    being expelled from school
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    and getting incarcerated
    because of her gender presentation.
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    But, in 2007, Bhumika and Nepal's
    LGBT rights organization
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    successfully petitioned
    the Nepali Supreme Court
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    to protect against LGBT discrimination.
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    Here's Bhumika:
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    BS: "What I'm most proud,
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    I'm a transgendered person.
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    I'm so proud of my life.
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    On December 21, 2007,
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    the Supreme Court gave the decision
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    for the Nepal government
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    to give transgender identity cards
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    and same sex marriage."
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    LD: I could appreciate
    Bhumika's confidence on a daily basis.
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    Something as simple
    as using a public restroom
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    can be huge challenge
    when you don't fit in
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    to people's strict gender expectations.
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    Traveling throughout Asia,
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    I tended to freak out women
    in public restrooms.
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    They weren't used to seeing
    someone like me.
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    I had to come up with a strategy
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    so that I could just pee in peace.
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    (Laughter)
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    So anytime I would enter a restroom,
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    I would thrust out my chest
    to show my women-ly parts,
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    and try to be as non-threatening
    as possible.
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    Putting out my hands and saying, "Hello"
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    just so that people could hear
    my feminine voice.
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    This all gets pretty exhausting,
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    but, it's just who I am.
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    I can't be anything else.
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    JC: After Nepal, we traveled to India.
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    On one hand, India is a Hindu society,
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    without a tradition of homophobia.
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    On the other hand, it is also
    a society
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    with a deeply patriarchal system,
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    which rejects anything that threatens
    the male-female order.
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    When we spoke to activists,
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    they told us that empowerment begins
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    with ensuring proper gender equality,
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    where the women's status is
    established in society.
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    And in that way, the status of LGBT people
    can be affirmed as well.
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    LD: There we met Prince Manvendra,
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    he's the world's first openly gay prince.
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    Prince Manvendra came out
    on the Oprah Winfrey Show,
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    very internationally,
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    His parents disowned him
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    and accused him of bringing great shame
    to the royal family.
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    We sat down with Prince Manvendra
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    and talked to him about why he decided
    to come out so very publically.
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    Here he is:
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    Prince Manvendra: "I felt that
    there was a lot of need
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    to break this stigma and discrimination
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    which is existing in our society.
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    And instigated me to come out openly
    and talk about myself.
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    Whether we are gay,
    we are lesbian,
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    we are transgender, bisexual,
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    or whatever sexual minority we come from,
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    we have to all unite
    and fight for our rights.
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    Gay rights cannot be won
    in the court rooms,
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    but in the hearts and the minds
    of the people."
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    JC: While getting my haircut,
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    the woman cutting my hair asked me,
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    "Do you have a husband?"
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    Now, this was a dreaded question
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    that I got asked a lot by locals
    while traveling.
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    When I explained to her that
    I was with a woman instead of a man,
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    she was incredulous,
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    and she asked me a lot of questions
    about my parents' reactions
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    and whether I was sad that I'd
    never be able to have children.
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    I told her that there are
    no limitations to my life
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    and that Lisa and I do plan
    to have a family some day.
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    Now, this woman was ready
    to write me off
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    as yet another crazy Westerner.
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    She couldn't imagine that
    such a phenemonon
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    could happen in her own country.
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    That is, until I showed her photos
    of the Super Gays
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    that we interviewed in India.
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    She recognized Prince Manvendra
    from television
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    and soon I had an audience
    of other hairdressers
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    interested in meeting me.
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    (Laughter)
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    And in that ordinary afternoon,
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    I had the chance to introduce
    an entire beauty salon
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    to the social changes that were happening
    in their own country.
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    LD: From India, we traveled
    to East Africa,
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    a region known for intolerance
    towards LGBT people.
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    In Kenya, 89 percent of people
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    who come out to their families
    are disowned.
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    Homosexual acts are a crime
    and can lead to incarceration.
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    In Kenya, we met the soft-spoken
    David Kuria.
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    David had a huge mission
    of wanting to work for the poor
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    and improve his own government.
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    So he decided to run for Senate,
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    he became Kenya's first openly-gay
    political candidate.
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    David wanted to run his campaign
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    without denying the reality of who he was.
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    But we were worried for his safety
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    because he started
    to receive death threats.
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    David Kuria: "At that point,
    I was really, really scared
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    because they were actually asking
    for me to be killed.
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    And, yeah,
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    there are some people out there who do it
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    and feel that they are doing
    a religious obligation."
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    JC: David wasn't ashamed of who he was.
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    Even in the face of threats,
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    he stayed authentic.
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    LD: At the opposite end
    of the spectrum is Argentina.
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    Argentina's a place where 92 percent
    of the population identifies as Catholic.
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    Yet, Argentina has LGBT laws
    that are even more progressive
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    than here in the US.
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    In 2010, Argentina became the first
    country in Latin America,
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    and the 10th in the world
    to adopt marriage equality.
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    There, we met María Rachid.
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    María was a driving force
    behind that movement.
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    María Rachid [spanish]:
    I always say that, in reality,
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    the effects of marriage equality
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    are not only for those couples
    that get married.
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    They are for a lot of people that,
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    even though they may never get married,
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    will be perceived differently
    by their coworkers,
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    their families and neighbors,
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    from the National State's
    message of equality.
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    I feel very proud of Argentina
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    because Argentina today
    is a model of equality.
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    And hopefully soon,
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    the whole world will have
    the same rights."
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    JC: When we made the visit
    to my ancestral lands,
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    I wish I could have shown
    my parents what we found there,
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    because here is who we met:
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    [Video]: "Welcome gays to Shanghai!"
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    (Laughter)
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    A whole community of young, beautiful
    Chinese LGBT people.
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    Sure, they had their struggles.
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    But they were fighting it out.
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    In Shanghai, I had the chance to speak
    to a local lesbian group.
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    and tell them my story
    in my broken Mandarin Chinese.
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    In Taipei, each time
    we got onto the metro,
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    we saw yet another lesbian couple
    holding hands.
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    And we learned that Asia's largest
    LGBT pride event
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    happens just blocks away
    from where my grandparents live.
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    If only my parents knew.
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    LD: By the time we finished our
    not-so-striaght journey around the world,
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    not-so-straight journey around the world,
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    (Laughter)
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    we had traveled 50,000 miles
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    and logged 120 hours of video footage.
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    We traveled to 15 countries
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    and interviewed 50 Super Gays.
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    Turns out, it wasn't hard
    to find them at all.
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    JC: Yes, there are still tragedies
    that happen
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    on the bumpy road to equality.
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    And let's not forget that 75 countries
    still criminalize homosexuality today.
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    But there are also stories
    of hope and courage
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    in every corner of the world.
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    What we ultimately took away
    from our journey is,
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    equality is not a Western invention.
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    LD: One of the key factors
    in this equality movement is momentum.
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    Momentum is more and more people
    embracing their true selves
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    and use whatever opportunities they have
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    to change their part of the world.
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    And momentum is more and more countries
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    find models of equality in one another.
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    When Nepal protected against
    LGBT discrimination,
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    India pushed harder.
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    When Argentina embraced marriage equality,
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    Uruguay and Brazil followed.
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    When Ireland said yes to equality,
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    (Applause)
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    the world stopped to notice.
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    When the US Supreme Court makes
    makes a statement to the world
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    that we can all be proud of.
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    (Applause)
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    JC: As we reviewed our footage,
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    what we realized is that
    we were watching a love story.
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    It wasn't a love story
    that was expected of me,
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    but it is one filled with more freedom,
    adventure and love
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    than I could have ever possibly imagined.
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    One year after returning home
    from our trip,
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    marriage equality came to California.
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    And in the end, we believe,
    love will win out.
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    [Video]: "By the power vested in me,
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    by the state of California,
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    by God almighty,
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    I now pronounce you spouses for life.
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    You may kiss."
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    (Applause)
Title:
This is what LGBT life is like around the world
Speaker:
Jenni Chang and Lisa Dazols
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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Duration:
11:50

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