(h) TROM - 2.22 Religion
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0:03 - 0:08[Religion]
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0:21 - 0:24Usually, before we believe something, we want proof
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0:24 - 0:26or as much proof as we can get
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0:26 - 0:29Before you buy a car you try to check it out
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0:29 - 0:31Before I try to skate across that frozen lake
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0:31 - 0:34I'm going to make sure the ice is solid
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0:34 - 0:36But when it comes to the supernatural
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0:36 - 0:39Yes, the psychic powers, astrology and so forth
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0:39 - 0:41Lots of people have a different standard
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0:41 - 0:44They believe because they want to believe
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0:44 - 0:50They care less about proof because believing makes them happy
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0:51 - 0:55Now if you are only 4 years old it's ok to believe in things we know not to be true
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0:55 - 0:57like Santa Claus
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0:57 - 0:58He lives in the sky
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0:58 - 1:01- Who does?
- Santa Claus -
1:01 - 1:05Tell me about the Easter Bunny... he's real?
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1:05 - 1:08- Where did he go?
- He's at the candy [store] -
1:08 - 1:13To learn more about what psychologist call magical thinking
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1:13 - 1:16Professor Robert Kavanaugh Williams College in Massachussets
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1:16 - 1:21Devised a test that involved an imaginary animal in a box
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1:21 - 1:26He repeated this for us as ??? 4 to 6 years old
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1:26 - 1:28First he divides the kids into pairs and then
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1:28 - 1:32his research assistant calls the kids' attention to the large empty box
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1:32 - 1:36[Assistant] - You guys have been sooo good...
[Kid] - What's in the box? -
1:36 - 1:41As we watch from behind the two-way mirror the children are shown that there's nothing in the box
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1:41 - 1:46[Assistant] -Empty!
Then she tells them a story about a a hungry fox who lives in the box -
1:46 - 1:48[Some chatting]
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1:48 - 1:50They are told that is just pretence
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1:50 - 1:53[Some chatting]
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1:53 - 1:56and she again tells them it was all make believe
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1:56 - 2:00[Assistant] We are just pretending and there is no fox in the box...
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2:00 - 2:03Then she tells them that she has to leave them alone for a few minutes
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2:03 - 2:04[Assistant] I'll be right back
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2:04 - 2:09Now I assume that the kids having looked in the box will know that there is no fox in there
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2:09 - 2:10but they don't
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2:10 - 2:12some hear the fox...
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2:12 - 2:17[Some kid chatting] I hear something ???
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2:17 - 2:21They worry about it
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2:21 - 2:23[Some kid chatting] ??? that was just the wind
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2:23 - 2:28Some go to the box to listen but are afraid to open it
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2:28 - 2:31[Some kid chatting]
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2:31 - 2:34but one pair does
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2:34 - 2:39Some kids accept that there is no fox in there but most kids aren't sure
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2:39 - 2:40[Some kid chatting]
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2:40 - 2:43This is what happens in test after test
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2:43 - 2:47Almost every child begins to believe that the animal they helped create
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2:47 - 2:48might be real
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2:48 - 2:51[Assistant] - Hi guys, thanks for waiting
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2:51 - 2:53[Some kid chatting]
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2:53 - 2:57Even when the researcher explains again that there was no fox in the box
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2:57 - 3:00Most children believe it was there
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3:00 - 3:04[Some kid chatting]
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3:04 - 3:08even Ema who looked in when Isaac opened the box
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3:08 - 3:12[Ema] - Isaac opened the box and he saw the largest fox.
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3:12 - 3:14Sometimes when we form beliefs,
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3:14 - 3:18those beliefs persist against logic or evidence to the contrary.
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3:18 - 3:23When I talked to the kids later, many were still convinced that the fox was in there.
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3:23 - 3:25[Journalist] are you sure?
[Kids] - No! -
3:25 - 3:31[Kids] - Yeah!
- There is a fox, I saw one ??? -
3:31 - 3:41Now magical thinking is fine for kids, [but] it's another thing when adults do [it].
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3:41 - 3:46As you can see all the children show the same symptoms:
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3:46 - 3:51strong hallucinations and lack of reason.
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3:51 - 3:54Can this be something "natural" for a human being?
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3:54 - 3:59It’s because we are raised with fairy tales, stories without reason.
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3:59 - 4:05Form your own conclusions.
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4:05 - 4:10Religion is an idea such as is true on Earth.
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4:10 - 4:15Professions like priests and bishops exist solely because of this idea.
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4:15 - 4:20They are paid by the system even though all they do is confuse the population.
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4:20 - 4:23In the same system we have a contradictory idea,
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4:23 - 4:29called science, which seeks to find answers rather than make them up.
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4:29 - 4:31I say this because religion is based on the idea
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4:31 - 4:35that the world was created by divine intelligence,
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4:35 - 4:38because of some ancient writings,
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4:38 - 4:41and science has discovered that the world that we know,
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4:41 - 4:42the universe,
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4:42 - 4:45was formed in a completely different manner.
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4:45 - 4:47Religion observes by definition,
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4:47 - 4:49which is extremely dangerous,
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4:49 - 4:56and science defines by observation because it appears to be the most logical approach.
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4:56 - 4:58Religion not only confuses humans
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4:58 - 5:03but is also accepted as a job in the monetary system.
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5:03 - 5:05Lots of money is given to religious institutions
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5:05 - 5:11while at the same time millions of people are starving or have nowhere to stay.
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5:11 - 5:15Religion might help people with their confrontation with death,
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5:15 - 5:19but it's unacceptable for human evolution to allow people to lie to themselves,
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5:19 - 5:25especially because we are able to explain so many things we couldn’t before.
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5:25 - 5:38For what are you living? Just to please your senses ?
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5:38 - 5:39If you were an eagle,
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5:39 - 5:43would you lie at the foot of a fruit baring tree just because it is comfortable,
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5:43 - 5:44because it's cool there,
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5:44 - 5:49because from time to time fruit falls?
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5:49 - 5:51With your amazing ability and great big wings,
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5:51 - 5:55you accept such a situation just because you feel more comfortable?
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5:55 - 6:02or because you're afraid not to fall when you fly?
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6:02 - 6:05Because I see no evidence whatever
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6:05 - 6:07in the christian dogmas
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6:07 - 6:12I examine all the stock arguments including the existance of God,
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6:12 - 6:16but none of them seem to be logically valid.
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6:16 - 6:22Do you think there's a practical reason for having a religious belief for many people?
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6:22 - 6:26Well it can't be a practical reason for believing what isn't true
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6:26 - 6:30That's quite... instantly ruled out. It's impossible.
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6:30 - 6:36Either a thing is true or it isn't. If it is true you should believe it, if it isn't shouldn't
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6:36 - 6:42and if you can find out whether is true or it isn't you can suspend judgement.
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6:42 - 6:48But you can't... It seems to me a fundamental dishonesty
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6:48 - 6:52a fundamental treachery to intellectual integrity
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6:52 - 6:57to hold a belief because you think it's useful and not because you think it's true.
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6:57 - 7:00Well, I would think in those people who find
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7:00 - 7:08some kind of religious code, helps them to live their lives,is in a very strict set of rules
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7:08 - 7:10the rights and the wrongs
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7:10 - 7:16These rules are generally quite mistaken
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7:16 - 7:19Great many of them do more harm than good.
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7:19 - 7:27and they will probably be able to find a rational morality that they can give back.
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7:27 - 7:34if they drop this irrational traditional taboo morality (that) comes out of savage ages
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7:34 - 7:37- What's is the point for...?
- We are only human beings. We pray for all kind of things -
7:37 - 7:41I'm told by people who pray
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7:41 - 7:44I say to them "Suppose God doesn't answer your prayer."
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7:44 - 7:47they say "Well then it's his will, I will accept his will"
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7:47 - 7:51but what's the point of praying in the first place if he gonna do what he wants to anyway.
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7:51 - 7:57There is supposedly a divine plan. how ??? arrogant as to ask him to change his plan for some narrow reason whether is
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7:57 - 7:59health or wealth
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7:59 - 8:01We are arrogants, we all think the world is revolving around us ...
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8:01 - 8:03But you think prayer works?
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8:03 - 8:08I pray to Joe Pesci and I get the same results.
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8:08 - 8:11I get the same results that I used to get from God when I was nine years old
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8:11 - 8:13and I believed in the invisible man in the sky.
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8:13 - 8:17You get about half of the things you pray for, it's lots of probability,
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8:17 - 8:22half of things you pray for you get, half of them you don't, you write all the have ???
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8:22 - 8:25and it's just a game, it's a form of mental illness
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8:25 - 8:32- No...
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8:32 - 8:38Relax, relax, try to relax , try to relax, try to relax
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8:38 - 8:41So you think god will throw a lightning bolt to you also?
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8:41 - 8:44I think, he think that what I've just heard, as insulting as that is,
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8:44 - 8:49- There is no God...If It is a God, well will he struck me dead right now? Will he?
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8:49 - 8:51[Carlin] he doesn't dare,
[Black] I hope not... -
8:51 - 8:52[Carlin]he doesn't dare,
[Black] I pray not to. -
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[Carlin]he doesn't dare, he doesn't dare -
8:56 - 8:57[Black] (God) doesn't care about our individual ears???
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8:57 - 8:58[Carlin] - I have a good point.
[Host] - Yes -
8:58 - 9:00[Carlin] You know when you talk about god in this society, when you profess you believe in god
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9:00 - 9:04They just toss the name around.
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9:04 - 9:09Every ??? and every politicials speaks "God bless us all, God bless you, God bless America"
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9:09 - 9:12[Carlin] and let me say this, -
[Indian?] and God bless you and god bless ??? number one. -
9:12 - 9:15That's lovely, he had ... to do with that
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9:15 - 9:18It's all individual human ... Oh please let me explain something.
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9:18 - 9:24God it's a wonderfull idea, it's a nice fantasy, it's a way of keeping people in line
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9:24 - 9:26it's a way of controlling people
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9:26 - 9:33There is as much proof for the existence of god, or even evidence, forget proof
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9:33 - 9:34There is as much evidence for the existence of god as it is
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9:34 - 9:36for the existence of ufos and extraterrestrials and yet
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9:36 - 9:42you mention them for a moment you are considered, outside, beyond the pale, you are
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9:42 - 9:43a coup, you are marginalized, you are crazy
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9:43 - 9:47if you mention , if you don't love god there's something wrong with you
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9:47 - 9:50[Indian]What if it makes people feel bad?
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9:50 - 9:53[Carlin]That's a different thing, if you wanna give the universe the name God that's fine,
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9:53 - 9:56The universe exists, we are equal parts of it, we are
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9:56 - 9:58made of the same stuff.
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9:58 - 10:07Most religions are based on the idea that somebody in someway through player can make you ???
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10:07 - 10:10- Yes but why do you need to make up stories?
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10:10 - 10:13[Host] Why this supreme being have to be just like...
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10:13 - 10:16- Because life it's hard, and you need to make up stories.
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10:16 - 10:19[Host] As long as you realized that is mine.
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10:19 - 10:22[Carlin] - You need that, you need that help
[Black] - You ??? the arrogance of things -
10:22 - 10:26[Indian] I see a lot of strong minded people, who are very very sincere and believe.
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10:26 - 10:30[Carlin]he is strong minded, but if they really believe that there is a man in the sky keeping score
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10:30 - 10:32something is wrong in it.
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10:32 - 10:37[Woman] As long as you believe in something that makes you ??? for the day
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10:37 - 10:42[Carlin] I believe in the vastness of the universe, and in the infinity, I believe in family and friends
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10:42 - 10:44I believe in love
[Woman]- So that's your god -
10:44 - 10:48[Carlin] No it's not my god, those are not god!
[Woman] That's your notion of ... That's your spiritual ... -
10:48 - 10:52[Carlin]God means and old man in the sky - doesn't mean
[Woman] It doesn't mean that to me. -
10:52 - 10:56[Carlin] - Why do you use the word?
[Woman] - I don't believe in an invisible man in the sky? -
10:56 - 10:58[Carlin]Why do need the word god? What is the word god?
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10:58 - 10:59[Woman] I don't need the word god actually
[Carlin] - Does it decides things to you? -
10:59 - 11:04[Woman] No he doesn't. I don't believe in he at all, I believe in the universe. I don't have any answers
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11:04 - 11:08[Carlin] - You have a more sophisticated approach
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11:08 - 11:11[Fresco] But we go to church on Sunday, and say
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11:11 - 11:15-Dear God do this, do that, or God bless America or something-
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11:15 - 11:20Here we are telling god who to bless, which is an insult through all religions.
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11:20 - 11:23If you feel god made everything in the universe
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11:23 - 11:25He's ultra-smart
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11:25 - 11:29you don't have to tell him (that) "you are in and he is sick, ease the pain please", he is all.
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11:29 - 11:32- Gee thanks for telling me
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11:32 - 11:34You see, We made god as dumb as we are
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11:34 - 11:43So all religions are crap today, they don't understand what they read.
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11:43 - 11:47I remember a minister telling me that God knew everything
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11:47 - 11:52Made every planet, every bug, every leaf, every thing
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11:52 - 11:57knew everything, and the Jesus persist to insult God.
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11:57 - 11:59Let me tell you where he did.
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11:59 - 12:01Just before they crucified him
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12:01 - 12:06he said, "Father forgive them, for they don't know what they do"
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12:06 - 12:08and God (said) "Gee, I didn't know that"
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12:08 - 12:15so can you see, Jesus was a nice guy, but not very bright.
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12:15 - 12:22People nail a piece of wood together and then they kiss it, and before the don't kiss it,
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12:22 - 12:27until you nail so it looks like a cross, then you kiss it.
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12:27 - 12:30You know what I mean. So what was it a day before it was cross?
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12:30 - 12:38Two pieces of wood or some copper that wasn't cast in the form of cross.
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12:38 - 12:40And a cross is a crucifix
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12:40 - 12:46which was long before people Lord?? it was to crucified people
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12:46 - 12:51now this is symbolic depending on what culture you come from.
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12:51 - 12:56And that's why I can't accept anything excepting sciences
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12:56 - 13:01The shape of an airplane wings is designed for certain lift,
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13:01 - 13:10The shape of the plane is designed to certain conditions.
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13:10 - 13:14Many people have tried to explain the origins of religion
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13:14 - 13:19and the mystery according to which this story is believed to be true even today.
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13:19 - 13:22Some even proclaim to be atheists,
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13:22 - 13:28but their approach is misguided because they are creating conflict by opposing religion.
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13:28 - 13:33If we dismantle all existing ideas on the planet Earth we will choke to death.
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13:33 - 13:39Religion is an idea, and those who support it must come to show the proof that it is true,
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13:39 - 13:42otherwise it's not of any use.
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13:42 - 13:56It's much easier to observe and define than to take each definition and analyse it.
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13:56 - 14:03Religion is a selfish idea designed to comfort those uncomfortable with ignorance,
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14:03 - 14:05so if you want to believe, fine,
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14:05 - 14:21but do not present your idea as evidence when it’s impossible to verify- especially to children.
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14:21 - 14:23Hello my child.
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14:23 - 14:26Welcome to this world.
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14:26 - 14:31Before you grow up, there are a few things I need to tell you.
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14:31 - 14:34You were born worthless,
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14:34 - 14:37corrupt.
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14:37 - 14:40You were born a sinner
[Surely I was a sinnful at birth , sinful from the time mother conceived me. - Psalm 51:5] -
14:40 - 14:46and the wages of sin is death.
[Therefore just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because we are all sinned. - Romans 5:12] -
14:46 - 14:49Someday, where you are old enough to understand
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14:49 - 14:51you must ask forgiveness.
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14:51 - 14:54Not for anything you've done
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14:54 - 14:59but for what others did thousands of years ago with the beginning of the world.
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14:59 - 15:08Also, you must tell god how sorry you are for murdering his son Jesus
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15:08 - 15:13I know that happened generations before you drew your first breath,
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15:13 - 15:16and it was ultimately part of God's divine plan
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15:16 - 15:19but the responsibility is yours.
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15:19 - 15:26You are guilty, and you must ask to be forgiven.
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15:26 - 15:29A portion of everything you produce in your lifetime
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15:29 - 15:31must be given to God,
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15:31 - 15:35who will never accept your offerings personally.
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15:35 - 15:41You will listen for him, but his voice will never be heard audibly.
[Thank You God] -
15:41 - 15:46You will thank him, for his direction and guidence, but his mysterious ways will confuse you.
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15:46 - 15:51In fact, although you are more important to god than anything else in the universe
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15:51 - 15:56he will never show you his face, or reveal himself in any probable way.
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15:56 - 15:59I know this seems strange.
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15:59 - 16:03To truly know god, you must study a book,
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16:03 - 16:05an ancient book,
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16:05 - 16:10written thousands of years ago in a language you do not understand.
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16:10 - 16:13You must fulfill a great commission.
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16:13 - 16:16To make others see the world as you do,
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16:16 - 16:19to have them believe as you do,
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16:19 - 16:21to live as you do,
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16:21 - 16:27and then to go out and convince even more to do the same.
[Go into the world and preach the good news to all creation. - Mark 16:15] -
16:27 - 16:32As a reward for this you will be given the privilege of praising God
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16:32 - 16:35without end, for all the eternity
[HEAVEN] -
16:35 - 16:40in a hidden happy place that can only be seen by the dead.
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16:40 - 16:43You must pledge your entire life on this earth
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16:43 - 16:46to your invisible father and its great commision
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16:46 - 16:49or he will send you to a dark pit
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16:49 - 16:52where the flesh is roasted from your bones
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16:52 - 16:55and you ride??? an unimaginable agony for ever
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16:55 - 16:59and ever and ever
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16:59 - 17:02[HELL]
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17:02 - 17:07But you must not do this because you'll feel horrible torture and pain,
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17:07 - 17:10you must do it because you love God.
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17:10 - 17:13No matter what happens throughout your lifetime,
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17:13 - 17:18the more your world seems to defy everything I have taught you here,
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17:18 - 17:23just continue to say the word out-loud: God is real
[GOD IS REAL] -
17:23 - 17:27God is good
[GOD IS GOOD] -
17:27 - 17:31and one day you will look into the eyes of your own child
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17:31 - 17:34and you'll teach him this very same things
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17:34 - 17:38so that he can someday teach his own children
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17:38 - 17:41and their children, and their children,
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17:41 - 17:43for generations.
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17:43 - 17:46You 'll hold them in your arms
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17:46 - 17:50and you'll look down to them and say
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17:50 - 18:01"Welcome to this world"
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18:01 - 18:03Let's stand to our feet.
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18:03 - 18:06Alleluia!
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18:06 - 18:09I need you to get serious serious with God
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18:09 - 18:10[Teacher] Say God!
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18:10 - 18:11[Kids]- God!
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18:11 - 18:12[Teacher] I'm here to be trained
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18:12 - 18:13[Kids] I'm here to be trained
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18:13 - 18:15[Teacher] I'm here for an education
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18:15 - 18:17[Kids]-I'm here for an education
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18:17 - 18:19[Teacher] I'm willing God
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18:19 - 18:20[Kids] I'm willing God
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18:20 - 18:22[Teacher] I'll do what you want me to do
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18:22 - 18:24[Kids] I'll do what you want me to do
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18:24 - 18:26[Teacher] I'll say what you want me to say
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18:26 - 18:28[Kids] I'll say what you want me to say
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18:28 - 18:29[Teacher] In Jesus's name
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18:29 - 18:31[Kids] In Jesus's name
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18:31 - 18:32[Teacher] Amen.
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18:32 - 18:37[Kids] Amen.
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18:37 - 18:41[Teacher] You don't open your mouth, the Holly Spirit can't talk.
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18:41 - 18:45All right now I want everyone to raise your hands. We're gonna pray in times.
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18:45 - 18:47Alleluia! Let's do it! All we love you Jesus!
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18:47 - 18:56[Speaking in foreign Language]
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18:56 - 18:57Holly spirit fall!
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18:57 - 18:58Please here.
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18:58 - 19:00Feel his power. Feel his power.
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19:00 - 19:05You talk there. And the Holly spirit just will be whispering here what to say.
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19:05 - 19:10[Black Boy & White boy saying jibberish]
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19:10 - 19:12[Teacher] don't stop!, don't stop!
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19:12 - 19:17This is the greatest thing at your life next to the day you got saved.
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19:17 - 19:27[Girl] Alleluia, Jesus.
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19:27 - 19:34[Teacher] Let me say something about Harry Potter
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19:34 - 19:38Warlocks are enemies of God,
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19:38 - 19:40and I don't care what kind of hero they are
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19:40 - 19:42they are enemy of god
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19:42 - 19:53and had he been in the old testament, Harry Potter would have been put to death.
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19:53 - 19:58You don't make heroes out of Warlocks.
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19:58 - 20:01This is a generation that is gonna stand for purity and righteousness
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20:01 - 20:06and holiness and you gonna serve the Lord all the days of your life.
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20:06 - 20:10And we declare all those things over you.
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20:10 - 20:15I believe this so much, that I've given my whole life
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20:15 - 20:25to see to it, that you get there.
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20:25 - 20:28I sense in my heart tonight, when I heard the Lord sayQ
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20:28 - 20:31Is it there some kids here,
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20:31 - 20:32that say they are Christians,
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20:32 - 20:34they go to church all the time,
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20:34 - 20:38but you are one thing when you are in church and another thing when you are at school with your friends.
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20:38 - 20:41You are phoney and an hypocrite.
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20:41 - 20:45You do things you shouldn't do, you talk dirty just like all the other kids talk dirty,
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20:45 - 20:48and it's time to clean up your acts.
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20:48 - 20:53Come up here and get washed.
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20:53 - 20:56Because we can't have phoneys in the army of God
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20:56 - 21:01Is that you? put your hands up here
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21:01 - 21:03Wow baby!
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21:03 - 21:05Wash your hands!
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21:05 - 21:08Father we just wash them with the water of your word!
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21:08 - 21:12We say no more diabol ! No more!
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21:12 - 21:14say it was a grace in the name of Jesus
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21:14 - 21:17you know exactly what you need to be ???
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21:17 - 21:18Name it!, Name it out loud!
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21:18 - 21:32Name it! What do you need to be forgiven of?
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21:32 - 21:36No more wishiswashy???! no more hypocrisy!
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21:36 - 21:55Now you got somewhere and pray. And you start doing some ??? here.
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21:55 - 21:57Speaking of that,
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21:57 - 22:04watch this video in which a priest from Moldova drowns a child during a ritual called baptism.
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22:04 - 22:06Many say it was an accident,
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22:06 - 22:08but the ritual was not an accident
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22:08 - 22:11because if religion did not exist those people wouldn't put the child
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22:11 - 22:16into such a risky situation.
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22:16 - 22:19Observe how the child is sunk according to priest's words,
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22:19 - 22:22not taking into account the child's integrity
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22:22 - 22:25but the ritual and the spoken words.
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22:25 - 22:29It's the most shocking video that shows how a completely innocent human being,
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22:29 - 22:33an animal without any control of the situation,
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22:33 - 22:37is killed by the selfishness of others who,
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22:37 - 22:39either because that's how they were raised,
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22:39 - 22:40or from their fear of death,
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22:40 - 22:43they accepted religion which promotes such events.
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22:43 - 23:34[Speaking Foreign Chants]
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23:34 - 23:37[PRIEST: "BE QUIET!"]
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23:37 - 24:10[Speaking Foreign Chants]
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24:10 - 24:13The religion idea saved many lost minds,
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24:13 - 24:17but who created those states in the first place?
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24:17 - 24:20Religion offers a peaceful death, it's true,
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24:20 - 24:25but it's like taking Xanax for all your life in order not to be worried about death.
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24:25 - 24:28Would you?
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24:28 - 24:31If yes, then give up religion and do it!
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24:31 - 24:36And the cool part is that you can start the treatment when you get old.
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24:36 - 24:38I'm not making fun of this,
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24:38 - 24:41but if you're accepting religion only for this reason,
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24:41 - 24:46death, then this is a real solution.
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24:46 - 24:51[Voice 1] How about you are about to be executed.
[Voice 2] Oh I'm about to be executed? -
24:51 - 24:59[Voice 1] You have nothing except your knowledge and your... your knowledge of science, your experience.
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24:59 - 25:02[Voice 3?] I would request
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25:02 - 25:05that my body in death
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25:05 - 25:11be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content, contained with in it
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25:11 - 25:16get returned to the earth, so the flora and fauna can dine upon it
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25:16 - 25:25just as I've dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life.
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25:25 - 25:30Another person comes up and say "I'm a spiritual person". I'm sure you've heard that shit.
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25:30 - 25:36and I say: you are spiritual person but of you have lots in your door
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25:36 - 25:39and there's poor people you invited in your home and feed them
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25:39 - 25:43Oh no! what the hell do you mean with it -soneone says that-
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25:43 - 25:46all he says ??? mean by spiritual
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25:46 - 25:53what do you mean by, a person comes to me and says: I'm a member of a club of "higher consciousness"
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25:53 - 25:57I say "I wonder: What does that mean?"
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25:57 - 26:01Higher consciousness, ??? your kidney? Not sure
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26:01 - 26:05How fast is the blood moving from your vein to the artery. I don't know.
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26:05 - 26:09What do you mean by higher consciousness?
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26:09 - 26:13A lot of people is full of shit as a christmas turkey
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26:13 - 26:32because they will don't know what they are talking about.
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26:32 - 26:37On a laboratory we have reproduced every aspect of the god experience
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26:37 - 26:43every essence, every component of it, from the rising sensation,
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26:43 - 26:44to the feelings of ecstasy, to the feelings of a sensed presence,
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26:44 - 26:49to the feelings that you are one with the universe, we can do that experimentally.
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26:49 - 26:54Proffesor perssenger ?? has gone straight to the source of creativity, emotion and fantasy.
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26:54 - 26:59by stimulating this area, the temporal lobes and the limbic system,
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26:59 - 27:06with complex magnetic fields that set up electrical charges in the brain.
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27:06 - 27:10In our presence one subject had a near death experience.
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27:10 - 27:15Certain wave of darkness.
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27:15 - 27:18It's a distant point of light.
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27:18 - 27:21No two people respond in exactly the same way,
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27:21 - 27:28but all of them come out of this chamber with the profound sense that something huge and significant has taken place.
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27:28 - 27:33It's a sound chamber that doesn't allow anything from the outside to come inside.
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27:33 - 27:35and I started hearing voices
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27:35 - 27:37I started seeing things.
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27:37 - 27:40Started with faces, there's a lot of faces,
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27:40 - 27:43but distorted faces, moving kind of...
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27:43 - 27:45almost like seeing something through heat
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27:45 - 27:48I felt the presence behind me,
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27:48 - 27:51like having staring down at me and
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27:51 - 27:53it seemed very strange
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27:53 - 27:59This presence wasn't , it wasn't frightening at all, it was very comforting actually
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27:59 - 28:02It was like dreaming but I was awake.
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28:02 - 28:05Just like when you have a dream you wake up and your dreams are just so...
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28:05 - 28:07they were was so real.
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28:07 - 28:10I saw bright lights and I heard voices.
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28:10 - 28:12Was that God speaking?
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28:12 - 28:15or was that proffesor pressenger just flipping a few switches?
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28:15 - 28:20All we have found is that individuals who have shown a temporal lobe sensitivity
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28:20 - 28:22or creativity
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28:22 - 28:27and who are very religious, in that setting, they would have a religious experience.
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28:27 - 28:36we can generate the synthed presence which is defined as God.
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28:36 - 28:40E'erybody fightin' over this religious shit. You understan' me?
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28:40 - 28:42The Christians say, Jesus is the messenger
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28:42 - 28:45The Muslims say, It's Mohamed
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28:45 - 28:47I say who gives a fuck who the messenger is
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28:47 - 28:56did you get the message?
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28:56 - 28:59They got the same damn message.
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28:59 - 29:03Do ?? to others, as you would have do ??? to you.
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29:03 - 29:05Science proves that to be a fact.
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29:05 - 29:09For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction.
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29:09 - 29:11Don't fuck with me
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29:11 - 29:21and I won't fuck with you.
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29:21 - 29:24Among other ideas are divinity , 2012
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29:24 - 29:29and the end of the world or other conspiracy theories.
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29:29 - 29:32I'm not making fun of them, I'm not saying that those are not true,
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29:32 - 29:36but are just like religion, ideas,
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29:36 - 29:37and until they are proven to be true
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29:37 - 29:40will keep that status.
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29:40 - 29:45Lets see how some of these ideas are viewed from a scientific standpoint:
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29:45 - 29:50The planet ?? it's a marvelous work of fiction
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29:50 - 29:51Oh yes
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29:51 - 29:56Yes there is no such thing as planet "Nimbubu" or whatever they say it.
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29:56 - 29:58It's just fiction
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29:58 - 30:02and they cite sources that cite NASA sources
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30:02 - 30:03they don't cite NASA.
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30:03 - 30:05Just check their website and you'll see.
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30:05 - 30:09It's all related to the doom day predictions of the year 2011
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30:09 - 30:13Yes that's where you get in at, that's behind your question, isn' t it?
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30:13 - 30:15Yes
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30:15 - 30:17Yes
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30:17 - 30:18Yes
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30:18 - 30:22You wanna know if the world it's gonna end on the December 21st 2011?
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30:22 - 30:25Because the same website that tells you about planet X
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30:25 - 30:30This secret planet that would have a strongly elliptical orbit
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30:30 - 30:32that will come into our zone in 2011
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30:32 - 30:34and knock earth off it's axis
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30:34 - 30:38combined with on December 21st 2011 that center of the galaxy
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30:38 - 30:42the sun and the earth will come into perfect alignment
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30:42 - 30:47and the excess gravity will then also tip her of his axis and would be the end of the world as we know it.
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30:47 - 30:50This is what these webpages will tell you.
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30:50 - 30:53(It) turns out, if you go to december 21
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30:53 - 30:56and look at the star charts
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30:56 - 30:59it's true, the center the galaxy, the sun and the earth
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30:59 - 31:02will come into perfect alignment.
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31:02 - 31:04It will, it's true, it's true.
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31:04 - 31:12What the site does not tell you, is that it happens every year on December 21.
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31:12 - 31:18They left that out of the account.
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31:18 - 31:21So it's a fun work of fiction
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31:21 - 31:24earth will be here before January after 2012. ???
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31:24 - 31:29I would add that the movie 2012, that's big marketive right now
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31:29 - 31:30That's gonna come out in 2012
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31:30 - 31:33and they want you do all the homework for the movie so they say
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31:33 - 31:38just google it, and if you google 2012 it's filled with thousands of webpages of doomsday
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31:38 - 31:44writen by people who didn't take enough science in school.
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31:44 - 31:50So you google it, I saw some of the previous for it
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31:50 - 31:53and I was worried that , you know all of us in this business
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31:53 - 31:57will just be inundated with having a sort of correct misconceptions.
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31:57 - 32:00Then I saw what they actually show in the movie.
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32:00 - 32:04And the movies is like: Aliens come and they take over the capital.
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32:04 - 32:09That's all, just another sort like the movie "Independence Day", that's fine.
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32:09 - 32:14It's just hollywood
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32:14 - 32:19Remember: it's much easier, and safer, to observe and define,
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32:19 - 32:21instead of believing such ideas
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32:21 - 32:25and trying to find arguments that support them.
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32:25 - 32:30In fact it's a total loss of time to analyze all these ideas,
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32:30 - 32:33those who support them must come with evidence.
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32:33 - 32:45In addition to this it is impossible to prove such a negative.
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32:45 - 32:51How can we prove that Santa Claus does not exist?
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32:51 - 32:53We follow all the houses on Christmas Eve
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32:53 - 33:00and if we do not notice Santa Claus then does it means that he doesn't exist?
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33:00 - 33:04No, it means that he didn't appear that Christmas.
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33:04 - 33:09We go even to the North pole to look and we don't find him.
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33:09 - 33:14But we still have not demonstrated that he doesn't exist.
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33:14 - 33:20We just proved that in that night of Christmas and in that time on north pole,he is not present.
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33:20 - 33:21That's all.
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33:21 - 33:23You can not prove that Santa Claus does not exist
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33:23 - 33:30but only, maybe, that he is unlikely to exist.
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33:30 - 33:35The same thing happens with religion, God, conspiracy theories and so on.
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33:35 - 33:39Remember: it is impossible to prove such a negative.
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33:39 - 33:45Do not forget: the universe exists, what is happening is happening.
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33:45 - 33:49Human beings are just trying to observe and define,
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33:49 - 33:49that's all.
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33:49 - 33:53It makes no sense to invent convenient stories.
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33:53 - 33:57All these ideas are accepted or promoted by the monetary system
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33:57 - 34:00so we can blame it for the poor educational program
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34:00 - 34:08and promotion of false values.
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34:08 - 34:11Many people have been trusted
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34:11 - 34:14their decision making to government.
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34:14 - 34:15Bingo!
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34:15 - 34:17and many people
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34:17 - 34:21have also given that decision making to the deity. They created the deity,
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34:21 - 34:24and they say: He will make the most appropriate decisions.
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34:24 - 34:26Prevent my house from burning down,
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34:26 - 34:29prevent my children from being killed,
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34:29 - 34:32and help us along, away.
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34:32 - 34:35But, it's going to take time for people
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34:35 - 34:38to take on the responsibility of managing
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34:38 - 34:41this wonderfull gift of nature the Earth,
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34:41 - 34:44water, all the wonderfull things we have (on) topsoil
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34:44 - 34:46and we have to take care of the Earth.
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34:46 - 34:49We have to assume responsibility.
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34:49 - 34:51We have brains.
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34:51 - 34:54And the brains can be programmed in many different directions.
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34:54 - 34:56They can go into the abstract region
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34:56 - 35:00which has nothing to do with improving our lives
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35:00 - 35:02we can invent reasons for nature
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35:02 - 35:05or we can say: I don't know how nature works
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35:05 - 35:08and hold that in advance??? and try to find out
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35:08 - 35:11That's a difference between science and religion.
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35:11 - 35:14Religions has answers. Many ???
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35:14 - 35:18..The Lord works in strange ways when they can't account for anything.
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35:18 - 35:21The science says: I don't know.
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35:21 - 35:23What are you gonna do about it? It goes into the lab and try to find out.
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35:23 - 35:26What's the best shape for a boat?
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35:26 - 35:31What's the best arrangement for sails to get the most effective movement from the wind?
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35:31 - 35:34It says: I don't know, so he sets up an experiment.
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35:34 - 35:37An experiment is: truth seeking,
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35:37 - 35:40potentiably truth seeking.
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35:40 - 35:45But in philosophy and theology you sit back on an armchair.
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35:45 - 35:49You say: "I guess the trees are here to give us oxygen.
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35:49 - 35:54The science says:"The trees are here to produce oxygen and that enable us to survive"
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35:54 - 35:55They are not here for that purpose.
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35:55 - 36:02Because there are many remote islands that have trees ,without any humans, (that) produce the oxygen.
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36:02 - 36:07You know? And there are many tidal waves that go over islands without people on them.
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36:07 - 36:08so they are not there to punish people
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36:08 - 36:11[Journalist] Humans are amazingly anthropomorphic.
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36:11 - 36:12[Fresco] Terribly so.
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36:12 - 36:14[Journalist] Oh, yeah it's all about us.
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36:14 - 36:18[Fresco] My brother??? used to be like that. He used to say: "The ant's going home to feed its young"
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36:18 - 36:23I say: How do know that? Maybe it's going home to eat it's young,
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36:23 - 36:24you know like the spiders,
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36:24 - 36:28the mate, then the female eats the male.
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36:28 - 36:41And I'm not talking about pornography, I'm talking about digesting them.
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36:41 - 36:56[ Alternative Solutions ]
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36:56 - 36:58Education about the issue of death,
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36:58 - 37:02the reality which tells us that we are the same with the universe.
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37:02 - 37:07Scientific reality could make you feel different about this process called death.
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37:07 - 37:09There is the telescope itself.
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37:09 - 37:12It's conduit to the Cosmos.
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37:12 - 37:17It's a physical, it's a tool, it's a conduit
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37:17 - 37:18My special.. was the ...of the milkyway galaxy
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37:18 - 37:21And I sit there and I reflect on it. My specialty was the Center of the Milky Way Galaxy,
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37:21 - 37:2330.000 light years away.
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37:23 - 37:27And so I had my digital detectors, I got the telescope, it's dark,
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37:27 - 37:31it's just me on this mountain and the universe.
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37:31 - 37:34And look up, and I just think to myself: "They are photons.
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37:34 - 37:40They've been traveling for to 30.000 years.
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37:40 - 37:44And I'm sort of snatching them from this journey
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37:44 - 37:48and planting them into my digital detector.
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37:48 - 37:49And then I start feeling bad for the photon.
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37:49 - 37:53Maybe it want to continue. But I got in it's way.
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37:53 - 38:00But then I say: "No, those are probably happier photons than the ones slammed into the mountainside.
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38:00 - 38:06That would go un-analyzed, and will not contribute to the depth of the understanding of the universe.
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38:06 - 38:10But so... So there is not only the fact that I'm in the mountaintop,
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38:10 - 38:13there is the knowledge and the feeling,
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38:13 - 38:18that I'm reaching out to the universe with this methods and tools of science.
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38:18 - 38:25We can trace the elements. They would forged in the center of stars, high massed stars, they went unstable,
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38:25 - 38:27at the end of their lives they exploded,
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38:27 - 38:32scattered their en-riched content across the galaxy
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38:32 - 38:35sprinkled into gas cloud and then collapsed
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38:35 - 38:36and form stars, and planets and life.
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38:36 - 38:42And so these ideas, these cosmic perspectives
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38:42 - 38:45this a pilgrimage to the Cosmos.
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38:45 - 38:48The people who say this makes me feel small
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38:48 - 38:50because I need see the inmensity of the Cosmos.
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38:50 - 38:54I say: "no you are not thinking about of the right way"
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38:54 - 38:58you know, by the way when we opened out facilities I got a letter from a psychologist
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38:58 - 39:00from the University of Pensilvania,
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39:00 - 39:03he's seen our show, which is a zoom-out from Earth
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39:03 - 39:05and Earth just shrinks to nothingness and you go to the edge of the universe,
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39:05 - 39:08and he wrote me a letter (that) says: I specialize
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39:08 - 39:10in the psychological effects
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39:10 - 39:14of
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39:14 - 39:22how did he word it, excuse he said: "Hello Dr Tyson, I'm... you know, Jonny Joe, I'm a psychologist specializing
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39:22 - 39:27effects of things that makes people feel insignificant.
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39:27 - 39:31I thought "??? of a job man. Is that what you do for a living?"
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39:31 - 39:38and he said, "needless to say your show was the greatest elicitor of feelings of smallness I have never seen.
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39:38 - 39:43would you allow me to conduct a survey on the people who visit your show?
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39:43 - 39:48And I thought to myself, "there's something wrong here cause why does he feel small?"
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39:48 - 39:50When I look up in the universe, I feel large.
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39:50 - 39:56Then I realized the problem was his ego was too large to begin with.
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39:56 - 39:58he came to the problem
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39:58 - 40:02thinking highly of who and what he was to begin with,
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40:02 - 40:05because then everything that happened to the show
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40:05 - 40:07destabilized his self image.
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40:07 - 40:11Whereas I know that molecules in my body are traceable
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40:11 - 40:14to phenomenon in the cosmos
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40:14 - 40:20and that, and it's fifteen pounds of gray matter that figured this out.
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40:20 - 40:25There is a kinship with the Cosmos that resonates deeply with New Age thinking,
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40:25 - 40:28but I'm not apologetic about that, it's what we find.
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40:28 - 40:34if whoever we find resonates with whoever, (then) go ahead take it.
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40:34 - 40:39but what I wanna know is... We are one of the greatest centers of Neurophysiology.
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40:39 - 40:43I want somebody to put electrodes on my head
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40:43 - 40:47and when I reflect on our kinship with the Cosmos
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40:47 - 40:51when I do the calculation that shows that a 50-ton meteorite
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40:51 - 40:56that we have at the in the center of the Raw Center of Earth and Space, it's an iron meteorite.
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40:56 - 40:58right to the calculations that shows, that if you take all of the iron from the hemoglobin
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40:58 - 41:03of the people in the tri-state area of New York City
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41:03 - 41:07you can recover that much iron out of their blood
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41:07 - 41:10and realize that the iron from that metorite and the iron from your blood has common origin
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41:10 - 41:14in the core of a star.
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41:14 - 41:18Tell me what part of my brain is lighting up, because that excites me.
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41:18 - 41:24That makes me wanna grasp people in the street and say: have you heard this?
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41:24 - 41:31There is not simply... As Carl Sagan says, we are star stuff but
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41:31 - 41:34there is a more poetic and I think more accurate way to say it.
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41:34 - 41:38it's quite literally truth that we are stardust,
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41:38 - 41:43in the highest exalted way one can use that phrase.
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41:43 - 41:46And so, I feel
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41:46 - 41:50and I use words, I bask in the majesty of the Cosmos.
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41:50 - 41:53I use words, compose sentences
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41:53 - 41:58that's sound like the sentences I hear out of people that have revelations of Jesus
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41:58 - 42:04who go to, who go on their pilgrimages
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42:04 - 42:06to Mecca.
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42:06 - 42:09There's some commonality of feeling.
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42:09 - 42:14I know it... well I don't know it, I want someone to do that experiment, because the day you do
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42:14 - 42:18if the same centers in my brains are excited
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42:18 - 42:22by this cosmic thoughts as they were going on in the mind of the religious person,
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42:22 - 42:26That's something to know, that's gonna be a really interesting finding.
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42:26 - 42:31Because what that tells me as an educator is
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42:31 - 42:34let me offer the universe to people.
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42:34 - 42:36And they will start taking it in
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42:36 - 42:40and they will start achieving those feelings that they had before
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42:40 - 42:43and I don't so much care whether they abandon previous feelings
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42:43 - 42:46I've got an offering that keeps growing
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42:46 - 42:48that keep becoming more majestic.
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42:48 - 42:51When the Humble Telescope was announced, that we are gonna cancel
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42:51 - 42:52oops...
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42:52 - 42:56When it was announced that we were gonna cancel the Humble Telescope,
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42:56 - 42:58the greatest outcry to not do that was not the astrophysicists,
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42:58 - 43:00it wasn't within NASA, it was the public.
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43:00 - 43:04It was all over the webpages, and in the talk shows.
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43:04 - 43:06The public took ownership of the Humble Telescope because,
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43:06 - 43:09the universe is coming into their bedroom
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43:09 - 43:12into their living room, onto their computer.
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43:12 - 43:15They were participant on the frontier of discovery.
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43:15 - 43:18And I far as I can tell, if you let them know
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43:18 - 43:21there is something that we are in the universe,
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43:21 - 43:25but in fact given the chemistry of it all,
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43:25 - 43:27and the nuclear physics of it all,
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43:27 - 43:29not we are in the universe,
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43:29 - 43:32the universe is in us.
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43:32 - 43:38And I don't know any deeper spiritual feeling
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43:38 - 43:43than what that brings upon.
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43:43 - 43:49I'm gonna to leave you with those things
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43:49 - 43:54[Jiddu Krisnamurti] You see, we have made life into a tedious thing
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43:54 - 43:57living.
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43:57 - 44:00life has become a battle
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44:00 - 44:03which is a not obvious fact
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44:03 - 44:06constant fight fight fight
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44:06 - 44:13and we have divorced that living from death.
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44:13 - 44:19We separated death as something horrible,
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44:19 - 44:24something to be frightened about,
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44:24 - 44:29and we say, and towards this living which is misery
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44:29 - 44:35is we accept, if we didn't accept this existence as misery
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44:35 - 44:50then life and death are the same movement
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44:50 - 44:53If the general picture of the a ??? big ban,
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44:53 - 44:57followed by an expanding universe is correct
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44:57 - 44:59what happened before that?
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44:59 - 45:01Was the universe devoid of all matter
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45:01 - 45:07and then the matter suddenly somehow created, how that happened?
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45:07 - 45:10many cultures, the customary answer.
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45:10 - 45:16is that a God or Gods created the universe out of nothing
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45:16 - 45:20but if we wish to pursue this question courageously
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45:20 - 45:23we must of course ask the next question
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45:23 - 45:25where did God come from?
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45:25 - 45:30If we decide that this is an unanswerable question, why not save a step and
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45:30 - 45:34include that the origin of the universe is an unanswerable question.
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45:34 - 45:38Or if we said that God always existed
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45:38 - 45:43why not save a step and conclude that the universe always existed.
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45:43 - 45:46There is no need for a creation. It is always here
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45:46 - 45:48These are not easy questions.
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45:48 - 45:52Cosmology brings us face to face with the deepest mysteries
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45:52 - 45:55with questions that once treated only
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45:55 - 46:15in religion and myth.
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46:15 - 46:19The bizarre behaviour of human beings that invent and then try to prove,
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46:19 - 46:25it's normal when they do not have the knowledge and technology to discover.
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46:25 - 46:33So human beings must be properly educated.
- Title:
- (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion
- Description:
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http://tromsite.com - Full documentary, very well organized (download, youtube stream, subtitles, credits, share, get involved, and many more)
Documentary´s description :
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TROM (The Reality of Me) represents the biggest documentary ever created, it is also the only one that tries to analyse everything : from science to the monetary system as well as real solutions to improve everyone's life.A new and ´real´ way to see the world.
"Before the Big-Bang, till present, and beyond."
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- English
- Duration:
- 46:42
angelito_suares edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion | ||
wurmdario edited English subtitles for (h) TROM - 2.22 Religion |