[Religion] Usually, before we believe something, we want proof or as much proof as we can get Before you buy a car you try to check it out Before I try to skate across that frozen lake I'm going to make sure the ice is solid But when it comes to the supernatural Yes, the psychic powers, astrology and so forth Lots of people have a different standard They believe because they want to believe They care less about proof because believing makes them happy Now if you are only 4 years old it's ok to believe in things we know not to be true like Santa Claus He lives in the sky - Who does? - Santa Claus Tell me about the Easter Bunny... he's real? - Where did he go? - He's at the candy [store] To learn more about what psychologist call magical thinking Professor Robert Kavanaugh Williams College in Massachussets Devised a test that involved an imaginary animal in a box He repeated this for us as ??? 4 to 6 years old First he divides the kids into pairs and then his research assistant calls the kids' attention to the large empty box [Assistant] - You guys have been sooo good... [Kid] - What's in the box? As we watch from behind the two-way mirror the children are shown that there's nothing in the box [Assistant] -Empty! Then she tells them a story about a a hungry fox who lives in the box [Some chatting] They are told that is just pretence [Some chatting] and she again tells them it was all make believe [Assistant] We are just pretending and there is no fox in the box... Then she tells them that she has to leave them alone for a few minutes [Assistant] I'll be right back Now I assume that the kids having looked in the box will know that there is no fox in there but they don't some hear the fox... [Some kid chatting] I hear something ??? They worry about it [Some kid chatting] ??? that was just the wind Some go to the box to listen but are afraid to open it [Some kid chatting] but one pair does Some kids accept that there is no fox in there but most kids aren't sure [Some kid chatting] This is what happens in test after test Almost every child begins to believe that the animal they helped create might be real [Assistant] - Hi guys, thanks for waiting [Some kid chatting] Even when the researcher explains again that there was no fox in the box Most children believe it was there [Some kid chatting] even Ema who looked in when Isaac opened the box [Ema] - Isaac opened the box and he saw the largest fox. Sometimes when we form beliefs, those beliefs persist against logic or evidence to the contrary. When I talked to the kids later, many were still convinced that the fox was in there. [Journalist] are you sure? [Kids] - No! [Kids] - Yeah! - There is a fox, I saw one ??? Now magical thinking is fine for kids, [but] it's another thing when adults do [it]. As you can see all the children show the same symptoms: strong hallucinations and lack of reason. Can this be something "natural" for a human being? It’s because we are raised with fairy tales, stories without reason. Form your own conclusions. Religion is an idea such as is true on Earth. Professions like priests and bishops exist solely because of this idea. They are paid by the system even though all they do is confuse the population. In the same system we have a contradictory idea, called science, which seeks to find answers rather than make them up. I say this because religion is based on the idea that the world was created by divine intelligence, because of some ancient writings, and science has discovered that the world that we know, the universe, was formed in a completely different manner. Religion observes by definition, which is extremely dangerous, and science defines by observation because it appears to be the most logical approach. Religion not only confuses humans but is also accepted as a job in the monetary system. Lots of money is given to religious institutions while at the same time millions of people are starving or have nowhere to stay. Religion might help people with their confrontation with death, but it's unacceptable for human evolution to allow people to lie to themselves, especially because we are able to explain so many things we couldn’t before. For what are you living? Just to please your senses ? If you were an eagle, would you lie at the foot of a fruit baring tree just because it is comfortable, because it's cool there, because from time to time fruit falls? With your amazing ability and great big wings, you accept such a situation just because you feel more comfortable? or because you're afraid not to fall when you fly? Because I see no evidence whatever in the christian dogmas I examine all the stock arguments including the existance of God, but none of them seem to be logically valid. Do you think there's a practical reason for having a religious belief for many people? Well it can't be a practical reason for believing what isn't true That's quite... instantly ruled out. It's impossible. Either a thing is true or it isn't. If it is true you should believe it, if it isn't shouldn't and if you can find out whether is true or it isn't you can suspend judgement. But you can't... It seems to me a fundamental dishonesty a fundamental treachery to intellectual integrity to hold a belief because you think it's useful and not because you think it's true. Well, I would think in those people who find some kind of religious code, helps them to live their lives,is in a very strict set of rules the rights and the wrongs These rules are generally quite mistaken Great many of them do more harm than good. and they will probably be able to find a rational morality that they can give back. if they drop this irrational traditional taboo morality (that) comes out of savage ages - What's is the point for...? - We are only human beings. We pray for all kind of things I'm told by people who pray I say to them "Suppose God doesn't answer your prayer." they say "Well then it's his will, I will accept his will" but what's the point of praying in the first place if he gonna do what he wants to anyway. There is supposedly a divine plan. how ??? arrogant as to ask him to change his plan for some narrow reason whether is health or wealth We are arrogants, we all think the world is revolving around us ... But you think prayer works? I pray to Joe Pesci and I get the same results. I get the same results that I used to get from God when I was nine years old and I believed in the invisible man in the sky. You get about half of the things you pray for, it's lots of probability, half of things you pray for you get, half of them you don't, you write all the have ??? and it's just a game, it's a form of mental illness - No... Relax, relax, try to relax , try to relax, try to relax So you think god will throw a lightning bolt to you also? I think, he think that what I've just heard, as insulting as that is, - There is no God...If It is a God, well will he struck me dead right now? Will he? [Carlin] he doesn't dare, [Black] I hope not... [Carlin]he doesn't dare, [Black] I pray not to. [Carlin]he doesn't dare, he doesn't dare [Black] (God) doesn't care about our individual ears??? [Carlin] - I have a good point. [Host] - Yes [Carlin] You know when you talk about god in this society, when you profess you believe in god They just toss the name around. Every ??? and every politicials speaks "God bless us all, God bless you, God bless America" [Carlin] and let me say this, - [Indian?] and God bless you and god bless ??? number one. That's lovely, he had ... to do with that It's all individual human ... Oh please let me explain something. God it's a wonderfull idea, it's a nice fantasy, it's a way of keeping people in line it's a way of controlling people There is as much proof for the existence of god, or even evidence, forget proof There is as much evidence for the existence of god as it is for the existence of ufos and extraterrestrials and yet you mention them for a moment you are considered, outside, beyond the pale, you are a coup, you are marginalized, you are crazy if you mention , if you don't love god there's something wrong with you [Indian]What if it makes people feel bad? [Carlin]That's a different thing, if you wanna give the universe the name God that's fine, The universe exists, we are equal parts of it, we are made of the same stuff. Most religions are based on the idea that somebody in someway through player can make you ??? - Yes but why do you need to make up stories? [Host] Why this supreme being have to be just like... - Because life it's hard, and you need to make up stories. [Host] As long as you realized that is mine. [Carlin] - You need that, you need that help [Black] - You ??? the arrogance of things [Indian] I see a lot of strong minded people, who are very very sincere and believe. [Woman] [Carlin]he is strong minded, but if they really believe that there is a man in the sky keeping score something is wrong in it. [Woman] As long as you believe in something that makes you ??? for the day [Carlin] I believe in the vastness of the universe, and in the infinity, I believe in family and friends I believe in love [Woman]- So that's your god [Carlin] No it's not my god, those are not god! [Woman] That's your notion of ... That's your spiritual ... [Carlin]God means and old man in the sky - doesn't mean [Woman] It doesn't mean that to me. [Carlin] - Why do you use the word? [Woman] - I don't believe in an invisible man in the sky? [Carlin]Why do need the word god? What is the word god? [Woman] I don't need the word god actually [Carlin] - Does it decides things to you? [Woman] No he doesn't. I don't believe in he at all, I believe in the universe. I don't have any answers [Carlin] - You have a more sophisticated approach [Fresco] But we go to church on Sunday, and say -Dear God do this, do that, or God bless America or something- Here we are telling god who to bless, which is an insult through all religions. If you feel god made everything in the universe He's ultra-smart you don't have to tell him (that) "you are in and he is sick, ease the pain please", he is all. - Gee thanks for telling me You see, We made god as dumb as we are So all religions are crap today, they don't understand what they read. I remember a minister telling me that God knew everything Made every planet, every bug, every leaf, every thing knew everything, and the Jesus persist to insult God. Let me tell you where he did. Just before they crucified him he said, "Father forgive them, for they don't know what they do" and God (said) "Gee, I didn't know that" so can you see, Jesus was a nice guy, but not very bright. People nail a piece of wood together and then they kiss it, and before the don't kiss it, until you nail so it looks like a cross, then you kiss it. You know what I mean. So what was it a day before it was cross? Two pieces of wood or some copper that wasn't cast in the form of cross. And a cross is a crucifix which was long before people Lord?? it was to crucified people now this is symbolic depending on what culture you come from. And that's why I can't accept anything excepting sciences The shape of an airplane wings is designed for certain lift, The shape of the plane is designed to certain conditions. Many people have tried to explain the origins of religion and the mystery according to which this story is believed to be true even today. Some even proclaim to be atheists, but their approach is misguided because they are creating conflict by opposing religion. If we dismantle all existing ideas on the planet Earth we will choke to death. Religion is an idea, and those who support it must come to show the proof that it is true, otherwise it's not of any use. It's much easier to observe and define than to take each definition and analyse it. Religion is a selfish idea designed to comfort those uncomfortable with ignorance, so if you want to believe, fine, but do not present your idea as evidence when it’s impossible to verify- especially to children. Hello my child. Welcome to this world. Before you grow up, there are a few things I need to tell you. You were born worthless, corrupt. You were born a sinner [Surely I was a sinnful at birth , sinful from the time mother conceived me. - Psalm 51:5] and the wages of sin is death. [Therefore just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because we are all sinned. - Romans 5:12] Someday, where you are old enough to understand you must ask forgiveness. Not for anything you've done but for what others did thousands of years ago with the beginning of the world. Also, you must tell god how sorry you are for murdering his son Jesus I know that happened generations before you drew your first breath, and it was ultimately part of God's divine plan but the responsibility is yours. You are guilty, and you must ask to be forgiven. A portion of everything you produce in your lifetime must be given to God, who will never accept your offerings personally. You will listen for him, but his voice will never be heard audibly. [Thank You God] You will thank him, for his direction and guidence, but his mysterious ways will confuse you. In fact, although you are more important to god than anything else in the universe he will never show you his face, or reveal himself in any probable way. I know this seems strange. To truly know god, you must study a book, an ancient book, written thousands of years ago in a language you do not understand. You must fulfill a great commission. To make others see the world as you do, to have them believe as you do, to live as you do, and then to go out and convince even more to do the same. [Go into the world and preach the good news to all creation. - Mark 16:15] As a reward for this you will be given the privilege of praising God without end, for all the eternity [HEAVEN] in a hidden happy place that can only be seen by the dead. You must pledge your entire life on this earth to your invisible father and its great commision or he will send you to a dark pit where the flesh is roasted from your bones and you ride??? an unimaginable agony for ever and ever and ever [HELL] But you must not do this because you'll feel horrible torture and pain, you must do it because you love God. No matter what happens throughout your lifetime, the more your world seems to defy everything I have taught you here, just continue to say the word out-loud: God is real [GOD IS REAL] God is good [GOD IS GOOD] and one day you will look into the eyes of your own child and you'll teach him this very same things so that he can someday teach his own children and their children, and their children, for generations. You 'll hold them in your arms and you'll look down to them and say "Welcome to this world" Let's stand to our feet. Alleluia! I need you to get serious serious with God [Teacher] Say God! [Kids]- God! [Teacher] I'm here to be trained [Kids] I'm here to be trained [Teacher] I'm here for an education [Kids]-I'm here for an education [Teacher] I'm willing God [Kids] I'm willing God [Teacher] I'll do what you want me to do [Kids] I'll do what you want me to do [Teacher] I'll say what you want me to say [Kids] I'll say what you want me to say [Teacher] In Jesus's name [Kids] In Jesus's name [Teacher] Amen. [Kids] Amen. [Teacher] You don't open your mouth, the Holly Spirit can't talk. All right now I want everyone to raise your hands. We're gonna pray in times. Alleluia! Let's do it! All we love you Jesus! [Speaking in foreign Language] Holly spirit fall! Please here. Feel his power. Feel his power. You talk there. And the Holly spirit just will be whispering here what to say. [Black Boy & White boy saying jibberish] [Teacher] don't stop!, don't stop! This is the greatest thing at your life next to the day you got saved. [Girl] Alleluia, Jesus. [Girl saying jibberish] [Teacher] Let me say something about Harry Potter Warlocks are enemies of God, and I don't care what kind of hero they are they are enemy of god and had he been in the old testament, Harry Potter would have been put to death. You don't make heroes out of Warlocks. This is a generation that is gonna stand for purity and righteousness and holiness and you gonna serve the Lord all the days of your life. And we declare all those things over you. I believe this so much, that I've given my whole life to see to it, that you get there. I sense in my heart tonight, when I heard the Lord sayQ Is it there some kids here, that say they are Christians, they go to church all the time, but you are one thing when you are in church and another thing when you are at school with your friends. You are phoney and an hypocrite. You do things you shouldn't do, you talk dirty just like all the other kids talk dirty, and it's time to clean up your acts. Come up here and get washed. Because we can't have phoneys in the army of God Is that you? put your hands up here Wow baby! Wash your hands! Father we just wash them with the water of your word! We say no more diabol ! No more! say it was a grace in the name of Jesus you know exactly what you need to be ??? Name it!, Name it out loud! Name it! What do you need to be forgiven of? No more wishiswashy???! no more hypocrisy! Now you got somewhere and pray. And you start doing some ??? here. Speaking of that, watch this video in which a priest from Moldova drowns a child during a ritual called baptism. Many say it was an accident, but the ritual was not an accident because if religion did not exist those people wouldn't put the child into such a risky situation. Observe how the child is sunk according to priest's words, not taking into account the child's integrity but the ritual and the spoken words. It's the most shocking video that shows how a completely innocent human being, an animal without any control of the situation, is killed by the selfishness of others who, either because that's how they were raised, or from their fear of death, they accepted religion which promotes such events. [Speaking Foreign Chants] [PRIEST: "BE QUIET!"] [Speaking Foreign Chants] The religion idea saved many lost minds, but who created those states in the first place? Religion offers a peaceful death, it's true, but it's like taking Xanax for all your life in order not to be worried about death. Would you? If yes, then give up religion and do it! And the cool part is that you can start the treatment when you get old. I'm not making fun of this, but if you're accepting religion only for this reason, death, then this is a real solution. [Voice 1] How about you are about to be executed. [Voice 2] Oh I'm about to be executed? [Voice 1] You have nothing except your knowledge and your... your knowledge of science, your experience. [Voice 3?] I would request that my body in death be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content, contained with in it get returned to the earth, so the flora and fauna can dine upon it just as I've dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life. Another person comes up and say "I'm a spiritual person". I'm sure you've heard that shit. and I say: you are spiritual person but of you have lots in your door and there's poor people you invited in your home and feed them Oh no! what the hell do you mean with it -soneone says that- all he says ??? mean by spiritual what do you mean by, a person comes to me and says: I'm a member of a club of "higher consciousness" I say "I wonder: What does that mean?" Higher consciousness, ??? your kidney? Not sure How fast is the blood moving from your vein to the artery. I don't know. What do you mean by higher consciousness? A lot of people is full of shit as a christmas turkey because they will don't know what they are talking about. On a laboratory we have reproduced every aspect of the god experience every essence, every component of it, from the rising sensation, to the feelings of ecstasy, to the feelings of a sensed presence, to the feelings that you are one with the universe, we can do that experimentally. Proffesor perssenger ?? has gone straight to the source of creativity, emotion and fantasy. by stimulating this area, the temporal lobes and the limbic system, with complex magnetic fields that set up electrical charges in the brain. In our presence one subject had a near death experience. Certain wave of darkness. It's a distant point of light. No two people respond in exactly the same way, but all of them come out of this chamber with the profound sense that something huge and significant has taken place. It's a sound chamber that doesn't allow anything from the outside to come inside. and I started hearing voices I started seeing things. Started with faces, there's a lot of faces, but distorted faces, moving kind of... almost like seeing something through heat I felt the presence behind me, like having staring down at me and it seemed very strange This presence wasn't , it wasn't frightening at all, it was very comforting actually It was like dreaming but I was awake. Just like when you have a dream you wake up and your dreams are just so... they were was so real. I saw bright lights and I heard voices. Was that God speaking? or was that proffesor pressenger just flipping a few switches? All we have found is that individuals who have shown a temporal lobe sensitivity or creativity and who are very religious, in that setting, they would have a religious experience. we can generate the synthed presence which is defined as God. E'erybody fightin' over this religious shit. You understan' me? The Christians say, Jesus is the messenger The Muslims say, It's Mohamed I say who gives a fuck who the messenger is did you get the message? They got the same damn message. Do ?? to others, as you would have do ??? to you. Science proves that to be a fact. For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. Don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you. Among other ideas are divinity , 2012 and the end of the world or other conspiracy theories. I'm not making fun of them, I'm not saying that those are not true, but are just like religion, ideas, and until they are proven to be true will keep that status. Lets see how some of these ideas are viewed from a scientific standpoint: The planet ?? it's a marvelous work of fiction Oh yes Yes there is no such thing as planet "Nimbubu" or whatever they say it. It's just fiction and they cite sources that cite NASA sources they don't cite NASA. Just check their website and you'll see. It's all related to the doom day predictions of the year 2011 Yes that's where you get in at, that's behind your question, isn' t it? Yes Yes Yes You wanna know if the world it's gonna end on the December 21st 2011? Because the same website that tells you about planet X This secret planet that would have a strongly elliptical orbit that will come into our zone in 2011 and knock earth off it's axis combined with on December 21st 2011 that center of the galaxy the sun and the earth will come into perfect alignment and the excess gravity will then also tip her of his axis and would be the end of the world as we know it. This is what these webpages will tell you. (It) turns out, if you go to december 21 and look at the star charts it's true, the center the galaxy, the sun and the earth will come into perfect alignment. It will, it's true, it's true. What the site does not tell you, is that it happens every year on December 21. They left that out of the account. So it's a fun work of fiction earth will be here before January after 2012. ??? I would add that the movie 2012, that's big marketive right now That's gonna come out in 2012 and they want you do all the homework for the movie so they say just google it, and if you google 2012 it's filled with thousands of webpages of doomsday writen by people who didn't take enough science in school. So you google it, I saw some of the previous for it and I was worried that , you know all of us in this business will just be inundated with having a sort of correct misconceptions. Then I saw what they actually show in the movie. And the movies is like: Aliens come and they take over the capital. That's all, just another sort like the movie "Independence Day", that's fine. It's just hollywood Remember: it's much easier, and safer, to observe and define, instead of believing such ideas and trying to find arguments that support them. In fact it's a total loss of time to analyze all these ideas, those who support them must come with evidence. In addition to this it is impossible to prove such a negative. How can we prove that Santa Claus does not exist? We follow all the houses on Christmas Eve and if we do not notice Santa Claus then does it means that he doesn't exist? No, it means that he didn't appear that Christmas. We go even to the North pole to look and we don't find him. But we still have not demonstrated that he doesn't exist. We just proved that in that night of Christmas and in that time on north pole,he is not present. That's all. You can not prove that Santa Claus does not exist but only, maybe, that he is unlikely to exist. The same thing happens with religion, God, conspiracy theories and so on. Remember: it is impossible to prove such a negative. Do not forget: the universe exists, what is happening is happening. Human beings are just trying to observe and define, that's all. It makes no sense to invent convenient stories. All these ideas are accepted or promoted by the monetary system so we can blame it for the poor educational program and promotion of false values. Many people have been trusted their decision making to government. Bingo! and many people have also given that decision making to the deity. They created the deity, and they say: He will make the most appropriate decisions. Prevent my house from burning down, prevent my children from being killed, and help us along, away. But, it's going to take time for people to take on the responsibility of managing this wonderfull gift of nature the Earth, water, all the wonderfull things we have (on) topsoil and we have to take care of the Earth. We have to assume responsibility. We have brains. And the brains can be programmed in many different directions. They can go into the abstract region which has nothing to do with improving our lives we can invent reasons for nature or we can say: I don't know how nature works and hold that in advance??? and try to find out That's a difference between science and religion. Religions has answers. Many ??? ..The Lord works in strange ways when they can't account for anything. The science says: I don't know. What are you gonna do about it? It goes into the lab and try to find out. What's the best shape for a boat? What's the best arrangement for sails to get the most effective movement from the wind? It says: I don't know, so he sets up an experiment. An experiment is: truth seeking, potentiably truth seeking. But in philosophy and theology you sit back on an armchair. You say: "I guess the trees are here to give us oxygen. The science says:"The trees are here to produce oxygen and that enable us to survive" They are not here for that purpose. Because there are many remote islands that have trees ,without any humans, (that) produce the oxygen. You know? And there are many tidal waves that go over islands without people on them. so they are not there to punish people [Journalist] Humans are amazingly anthropomorphic. [Fresco] Terribly so. [Journalist] Oh, yeah it's all about us. [Fresco] My brother??? used to be like that. He used to say: "The ant's going home to feed its young" I say: How do know that? Maybe it's going home to eat it's young, you know like the spiders, the mate, then the female eats the male. And I'm not talking about pornography, I'm talking about digesting them. [ Alternative Solutions ] Education about the issue of death, the reality which tells us that we are the same with the universe. Scientific reality could make you feel different about this process called death. There is the telescope itself. It's conduit to the Cosmos. It's a physical, it's a tool, it's a conduit My special.. was the ...of the milkyway galaxy And I sit there and I reflect on it. My specialty was the Center of the Milky Way Galaxy, 30.000 light years away. And so I had my digital detectors, I got the telescope, it's dark, it's just me on this mountain and the universe. And look up, and I just think to myself: "They are photons. They've been traveling for to 30.000 years. And I'm sort of snatching them from this journey and planting them into my digital detector. And then I start feeling bad for the photon. Maybe it want to continue. But I got in it's way. But then I say: "No, those are probably happier photons than the ones slammed into the mountainside. That would go un-analyzed, and will not contribute to the depth of the understanding of the universe. But so... So there is not only the fact that I'm in the mountaintop, there is the knowledge and the feeling, that I'm reaching out to the universe with this methods and tools of science. We can trace the elements. They would forged in the center of stars, high massed stars, they went unstable, at the end of their lives they exploded, scattered their en-riched content across the galaxy sprinkled into gas cloud and then collapsed and form stars, and planets and life. And so these ideas, these cosmic perspectives this a pilgrimage to the Cosmos. The people who say this makes me feel small because I need see the inmensity of the Cosmos. I say: "no you are not thinking about of the right way" you know, by the way when we opened out facilities I got a letter from a psychologist from the University of Pensilvania, he's seen our show, which is a zoom-out from Earth and Earth just shrinks to nothingness and you go to the edge of the universe, and he wrote me a letter (that) says: I specialize in the psychological effects of how did he word it, excuse he said: "Hello Dr Tyson, I'm... you know, Jonny Joe, I'm a psychologist specializing effects of things that makes people feel insignificant. I thought "??? of a job man. Is that what you do for a living?" and he said, "needless to say your show was the greatest elicitor of feelings of smallness I have never seen. would you allow me to conduct a survey on the people who visit your show? And I thought to myself, "there's something wrong here cause why does he feel small?" When I look up in the universe, I feel large. Then I realized the problem was his ego was too large to begin with. he came to the problem thinking highly of who and what he was to begin with, because then everything that happened to the show destabilized his self image. Whereas I know that molecules in my body are traceable to phenomenon in the cosmos and that, and it's fifteen pounds of gray matter that figured this out. There is a kinship with the Cosmos that resonates deeply with New Age thinking, but I'm not apologetic about that, it's what we find. if whoever we find resonates with whoever, (then) go ahead take it. but what I wanna know is... We are one of the greatest centers of Neurophysiology. I want somebody to put electrodes on my head and when I reflect on our kinship with the Cosmos when I do the calculation that shows that a 50-ton meteorite that we have at the in the center of the Raw Center of Earth and Space, it's an iron meteorite. right to the calculations that shows, that if you take all of the iron from the hemoglobin of the people in the tri-state area of New York City you can recover that much iron out of their blood and realize that the iron from that metorite and the iron from your blood has common origin in the core of a star. Tell me what part of my brain is lighting up, because that excites me. That makes me wanna grasp people in the street and say: have you heard this? There is not simply... As Carl Sagan says, we are star stuff but there is a more poetic and I think more accurate way to say it. it's quite literally truth that we are stardust, in the highest exalted way one can use that phrase. And so, I feel and I use words, I bask in the majesty of the Cosmos. I use words, compose sentences that's sound like the sentences I hear out of people that have revelations of Jesus who go to, who go on their pilgrimages to Mecca. There's some commonality of feeling. I know it... well I don't know it, I want someone to do that experiment, because the day you do if the same centers in my brains are excited by this cosmic thoughts as they were going on in the mind of the religious person, That's something to know, that's gonna be a really interesting finding. Because what that tells me as an educator is let me offer the universe to people. And they will start taking it in and they will start achieving those feelings that they had before and I don't so much care whether they abandon previous feelings I've got an offering that keeps growing that keep becoming more majestic. When the Humble Telescope was announced, that we are gonna cancel oops... When it was announced that we were gonna cancel the Humble Telescope, the greatest outcry to not do that was not the astrophysicists, it wasn't within NASA, it was the public. It was all over the webpages, and in the talk shows. The public took ownership of the Humble Telescope because, the universe is coming into their bedroom into their living room, onto their computer. They were participant on the frontier of discovery. And I far as I can tell, if you let them know there is something that we are in the universe, but in fact given the chemistry of it all, and the nuclear physics of it all, not we are in the universe, the universe is in us. And I don't know any deeper spiritual feeling than what that brings upon. I'm gonna to leave you with those things [Jiddu Krisnamurti] You see, we have made life into a tedious thing living. life has become a battle which is a not obvious fact constant fight fight fight and we have divorced that living from death. We separated death as something horrible, something to be frightened about, and we say, and towards this living which is misery is we accept, if we didn't accept this existence as misery then life and death are the same movement If the general picture of the a ??? big ban, followed by an expanding universe is correct what happened before that? Was the universe devoid of all matter and then the matter suddenly somehow created, how that happened? many cultures, the customary answer. is that a God or Gods created the universe out of nothing but if we wish to pursue this question courageously we must of course ask the next question where did God come from? If we decide that this is an unanswerable question, why not save a step and include that the origin of the universe is an unanswerable question. Or if we said that God always existed why not save a step and conclude that the universe always existed. There is no need for a creation. It is always here These are not easy questions. Cosmology brings us face to face with the deepest mysteries with questions that once treated only in religion and myth. The bizarre behaviour of human beings that invent and then try to prove, it's normal when they do not have the knowledge and technology to discover. So human beings must be properly educated.