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Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20

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    I've come to talk to you about addiction,
    the power of addiction,
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    but also addiction to power.
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    As a medical doctor,
    I work in Vancouver, Canada,
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    and I have worked with some very,
    very addicted people.
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    People who use heroin,
    they inject cocaine,
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    they drink alcohol, crystal meth
    and every drug known to man.
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    And these people suffer.
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    If the success of a doctor is to be
    measured by how long his patients live,
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    then I am a failure
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    because my patients die very young,
    relatively speaking.
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    They die of HIV, they die of hepatitis C,
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    they die of infections
    of their heart valves,
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    they die of infections of their brains,
    of their spines,
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    of their hearts,
    of their bloodstream.
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    They die of suicide, of overdose,
    of violence, of accidental deaths.
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    And if you look at them, you call to mind
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    the words of the great Egyptian novelist,
    Naguib Mahvouz, who wrote:
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    "Nothing records the effects of a sad life
    as graphically as the human body."
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    Because these people lose everything.
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    They lose their health,
    they lose their beauty,
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    they lose their teeth,
    they lose their wealth,
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    they lose human relationships
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    and, in the end,
    they often lose their lives.
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    And yet, nothing shakes them
    from their addiction.
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    Nothing can force them
    to give up their addiction.
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    The addictions are powerful
    and the question is: why?
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    And as one of my patients said to me:
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    "I'm not afraid of dying," he said,
    "I'm more afraid of living."
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    And the question we have to ask is:
    Why are people afraid of life?
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    And, if you want to understand addiction,
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    you can't look at
    what's wrong with the addiction;
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    you have to look at
    what's right about it.
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    In other words, what's the person getting
    from the addiction?
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    What are they getting
    that otherwise they don't have?
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    What addicts get is relief from pain,
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    what they get is a sense of peace,
    a sense of control,
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    a sense of calmness,
    very, very temporarily.
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    And the question is why are
    these qualities missing from their lives,
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    what happened to them?
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    If you look at drugs like heroin,
    like morphine, like codeine,
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    if you look at cocaine,
    if you look at alcohol,
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    these are all painkillers.
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    In one way or another,
    they all soothe pain.
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    And that's why
    the real question in addiction
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    is not, "Why the addiction?,"
    but, "Why the pain?"
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    Now, I just finished reading
    the biography of Keith Richards,
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    the guitarist for the Rolling Stones
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    and, as you probably know,
    everybody is still surprised
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    that Richards is still alive today,
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    because he was a heavy-duty
    heroine addict for a long time.
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    And in his biography,
    he writes that the addiction
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    was all about looking for oblivion,
    looking for forgetting.
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    He said, "The contortions
    that we go through
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    just not to be ourselves for a few hours."
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    And I understand that very well myself,
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    because I know that discomfort with myself,
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    I know that discomfort
    being in my own skin,
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    I know that desire
    to escape from my own mind.
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    The great British psychiatrist
    R.D. Laing said
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    that there are three things
    that people are afraid of.
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    They are afraid of death,
    of other people and of their own minds.
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    For a long time in my life, I wanted
    to distract myself from my own mind,
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    because I was afraid to be alone with it.
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    And how would I distract myself?
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    Well, I've never used drugs,
    but I've distracted myself through work,
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    and throwing myself into activities.
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    And I've distracted myself
    through shopping;
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    in my case, for classical compact music,
    classical compact discs.
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    But I've been a real addict that way.
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    One week, I spent 8,000 dollars
    on classical compact discs,
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    not because I wanted to,
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    but because I couldn't help
    going back to the store.
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    And as a medical doctor,
    I used to deliver a lot of babies.
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    And once I left a woman
    in labor in hospital
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    to get a classical piece of music.
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    I still could have made it back
    to the hospital on time,
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    but once in the store you can't leave,
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    because there are these evil
    classical music dealers in the aisles:
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    "Hey buddy, have you listened to
    the latest Mozart symphony cycle?"
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    "You haven't? Well..."
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    So I missed the delivery of that baby,
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    and I came home and I lied
    to my wife about it.
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    Like any addict, I would lie about it
    and I would ignore my own children
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    because of my obsession
    with work and with music.
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    So I know what that
    escape from the self is like.
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    My definition of addiction
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    is any behavior that gives you
    temporary relief, temporary pleasure,
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    but in the long term causes harm,
    has some negative consequences
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    and you can't give it up,
    despite those negative consequences.
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    And from that perspective,
    you can understand
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    that there are many, many addictions.
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    Yes, there is the addiction to drugs,
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    but there is also
    the addiction to consumerism,
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    there is the addiction to sex,
    to the internet,
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    to shopping, to food.
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    The Buddhists have this idea
    of the hungry ghosts.
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    The hungry ghosts are creatures
    with large empty bellies
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    and small, scrawny necks
    and tiny little mouths,
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    so they can never get enough,
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    they can never fill
    this emptiness on the inside.
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    And we are all hungry ghosts
    in this society,
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    we all have this emptiness,
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    and so many of us are trying to fill
    that emptiness from the outside
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    and the addiction is all about trying
    to fill that emptiness from the outside.
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    Now, if you want to ask the question
    of why people are in pain,
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    you can't look at their genetics.
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    You have to look at their lives.
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    And in the case of my patients,
    my highly addicted patients,
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    it's very clear why they are in pain.
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    Because they have been abused
    all of their lives,
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    they began life as abused children.
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    All of the women I have worked with
    over a 12-year period, hundreds of them,
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    they had all been
    sexually abused as children.
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    And the men had been traumatized as well.
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    The men had been
    sexually abused, neglected,
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    physically abused, abandoned
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    and emotionally hurt over and over again.
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    And that's why the pain.
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    And there is something else here too:
    the human brain.
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    The human brains itself,
    as you've heard already,
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    develops an interaction
    with the environment.
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    It's not just genetically programed.
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    So the kind of environment
    that a child has
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    will actually shape
    the development of the brain.
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    Now, I can tell you about
    two experiments with mice.
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    You take a little mouse
    and you put food in its mouth
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    and he'll eat it and enjoy it
    and swallow it,
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    but if you put the food down
    a few inches away from his nose,
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    he will not move to eat it;
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    he will actually starve to death
    rather than eat.
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    Why?
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    Because, genetically, they knocked out
    the receptors for a chemical in the brain
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    called dopamine.
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    Dopamine is the incentive
    and motivation chemical.
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    Dopamine flows
    whenever we are motivated,
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    excited, vital, vibrant,
    curious about something,
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    when we are seeking food
    or a sexual partner.
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    Without the dopamine,
    we have no motivation.
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    Now what do you think the addict gets?
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    When the addict shoots cocaine,
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    when the addict shoots crystal meth
    or almost any drug,
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    they get a hit of dopamine in their brain.
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    And the question is,
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    what happened to their brains
    in the first place?
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    Because it's a myth
    that drugs are addictive.
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    Drugs are not by themselves addictive,
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    because most people who try most drugs
    never become addicted.
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    So the question is,
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    why are some people vulnerable
    to being addicted?
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    Just like food is not addictive,
    but to some people it is;
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    shopping is not addictive,
    but to some people it is;
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    television is not addictive,
    but to some people it is.
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    So the question is,
    why this susceptibility?
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    There's another
    little experiment with mice
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    where infant mice,
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    if they are separated from their mothers
    will not cry for their mothers.
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    Now what would that mean in the wild?
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    It means that they would die,
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    because only the mother protects
    the child's life and nurtures the child.
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    And why?
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    Because genetically
    they knocked out the receptors,
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    the chemical binding sites in the brain,
    for endorphins
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    and endorphins are indigenous
    morphine-like substances;
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    endorphins are our own
    natural painkillers.
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    What morphine or endorphins also do is
    they make possible the experience of love;
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    they make possible the experience
    of attachment to the parent
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    and the parents' attachment to the child.
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    So these little mice without
    endorphin receptors in their brains
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    will naturally not call for their mothers.
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    In other words,
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    the addiction to these drugs and
    of course the heroine and the morphine,
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    what they do is they act
    on the endorphin system;
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    that's why they work.
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    And so, the question is,
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    what happens to people that they need
    these chemicals from the outside?
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    Well, what happens to them is,
    when they are abused as children,
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    those circuits don't develop.
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    When you don't have love
    and connection in your life,
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    when you are very, very young,
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    then those important brain circuits
    just don't develop properly.
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    And under conditions of abuse,
    things just don't develop properly
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    and their brains then
    are susceptible when they do the drugs.
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    Now they feel normal,
    now they feel pain relief,
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    now they feel love.
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    And as one patient said to me:
    "When I first did heroine," she said,
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    "it felt like a warm soft hug,
    just like a mother hugging her baby."
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    Now, I've had that same emptiness,
    not to the same degree as my patients.
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    What happened to me is that
    I was born in Budapest, Hungary,
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    in 1944, to Jewish parents,
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    just before the Germans occupied Hungary.
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    And you know what happened
    to the Jewish people in Eastern Europe.
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    And I was 2 months old
    when the German army moved into Budapest.
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    And the day after they did,
    my mother phoned the pediatrician
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    and she said,
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    "Would you please come and see Gabor
    because he is crying all the time."
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    And the pediatrician said,
    "Of course, I will come to see him,
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    but I should tell you,
    all of my Jewish babies are crying."
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    Now why?
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    What do babies know about Hitler
    or genocide or war?
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    Nothing.
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    What we were picking up on
    is the stresses and the terrors
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    and the depression of our mothers
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    and that actually shapes
    the child's brain.
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    And of course,
    what happens then
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    is I get the message
    that the world doesn't want me,
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    because if my mother is
    not happy around me,
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    she must not want me.
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    Why do I become a workaholic later?
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    Because if they don't want me,
    at least they are going to need me.
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    And I'll be an important doctor
    and they are going to need me
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    and that way I can make up
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    for the feeling of not being
    wanted in the first place.
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    And what does that mean?
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    It means that I am working all the time,
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    and when I am not working,
    I'm consumed by buying music.
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    What message do my kids get?
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    My kids get the same message
    that they are not wanted.
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    And this is how we pass it on,
    we pass on the trauma,
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    and we pass on the suffering,
    unconsciously,
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    from one generation to the next.
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    So obviously, there are many,
    many ways to fill this emptiness,
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    and for each person, there is a different
    way of filling the emptiness,
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    but the emptiness always goes back
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    to what we didn't get
    when we were very small.
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    And then we look at the drug addict
    and we say to the drug addict,
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    "How can you possibly do this to yourself?
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    How can you possibly inject
    this terrible substance into your body
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    that may kill you?"
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    But look at what
    we are doing to the earth.
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    We are injecting all kinds of things
    into the atmosphere
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    and the oceans and the environment
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    that is killing us,
    that's killing the earth.
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    Now which addiction is greater?
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    The addiction to oil? Or to consumerism?
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    Which causes the greater harm?
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    And yet we judge the drug addict
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    because we actually see
    that they are just like us
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    and we don't like that.
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    So we say, "You are different from us,
    you are worse than we are."
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    (Applause)
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    On the plane to São Paulo
    and Rio de Janeiro,
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    I was reading the New York Times,
    on June 9th,
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    and there was an article about Brazil
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    and the article was about a man
    called Nísio Gomes,
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    a leader of the Guarani people
    in the Amazon,
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    who was killed last November
    and you probably heard about him.
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    And he was killed because
    he was protecting his people
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    from the big farmers and the companies
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    that are taking over the rainforest
    and destroying the rainforest
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    and that are destroying the habitat of
    the native Indian people here in Brazil.
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    And I can tell you that coming from Canada
    the same thing has happened over there.
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    And many of my patients are actually
    First Nation's Indian people,
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    native Indian people in Canada,
    and they are heavily addicted.
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    They make up a small percentage
    of the population,
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    but they make up a large percentage
    of the people in jail,
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    the people who are addicted,
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    the people who are mentally ill,
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    the people who commit suicide. Why?
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    Because their lands were
    taken away from them,
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    and because they were killed and abused
    for generations and generations.
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    But the question I ask is,
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    if you can understand the suffering
    of these native people
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    and how that suffering makes them
    seek relief from pain in their addictions,
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    what about the people
    who are perpetrating it?
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    What are they addicted to?
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    Well, they are addicted to power,
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    they are addicted to wealth,
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    they are addicted to acquisition.
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    They want to make themselves bigger.
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    And when I was trying to understand
    the addiction to power,
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    I looked at some of the most
    powerful people in history.
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    I looked at Alexander the Great,
    I looked at Napoleon, I looked at Hitler,
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    I looked at Genghis Kahn,
    I looked at Stalin.
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    It's very interesting
    when you look at these people.
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    First of all, why did they need
    power so much?
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    Interestingly enough,
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    physically they were all
    very small people,
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    my size or smaller; actually smaller.
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    They came from outsiders,
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    they were not part
    of the major population.
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    Stalin was a Georgian, not a Russian;
    Napoleon was a Corsican, not a Frenchman;
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    Alexander was a Macedonian, not a Greek;
    and Hitler was an Austrian, not a German.
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    So a real sense of insecurity
    and inferiority.
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    And they needed power
    to feel okay in themselves,
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    to make themselves bigger,
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    and in order to get that power,
    they were quite willing to fight wars
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    and to kill a lot of people,
    just to maintain that power.
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    I'm not saying that only small people
    can be power-hungry
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    but it is interesting to look at
    these examples,
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    because power, the addiction to power,
    is always about the emptiness
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    that you try and fill from the outside.
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    And Napoleon, even in exile
    on the island of St. Helena,
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    after he lost his power,
    he said, "I love power, I love power."
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    He couldn't think of himself
    without power.
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    He had no sense of himself
    without being powerful externally.
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    And that's very interesting
    when you compare it to people
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    like the Buddha or Jesus,
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    because if you look at the story
    about Jesus and Buddha,
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    both of them were tempted by the devil
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    and one of the things that the devil
    offers them is power, earthly power,
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    and they both say no.
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    Now why do they say no?
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    They say no because they have
    the power inside of themselves,
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    they don't need it from the outside.
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    And they both say no
    because they don't want to control people,
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    they want to teach people.
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    They want to teach people by example
    and by soft words,
  • 16:36 - 16:41
    and by wisdom, not through force;
    so they refuse power.
  • 16:41 - 16:44
    And it's very interesting
    what they say about that.
  • 16:46 - 16:53
    Jesus says that the power and the reality
    is not outside of yourself but inside.
  • 16:53 - 16:57
    He says the Kingdom of God is within.
  • 16:57 - 17:01
    And the Buddha, before he dies
    and his monks are mourning and crying
  • 17:01 - 17:03
    and they are all upset,
  • 17:03 - 17:06
    he says, "Don't mourn me,"
    he says, "And don't worship me.
  • 17:06 - 17:13
    Find a lamp inside yourself, be a lamp
    unto yourselves, find a light within."
  • 17:13 - 17:17
    And so as we look this difficult world
    with the loss of the environment
  • 17:17 - 17:22
    and global warming
    and the depredations in the oceans,
  • 17:22 - 17:25
    let's not look to the people in power
    to change things,
  • 17:25 - 17:29
    because the people in power,
    I'm afraid to say, are very often
  • 17:29 - 17:31
    some of the emptiest people in the world
  • 17:31 - 17:33
    and they are not going to
    change things for us.
  • 17:33 - 17:36
    We have to find that light
    within ourselves,
  • 17:36 - 17:38
    we have to find the light
    within communities
  • 17:38 - 17:42
    and within our own wisdom
    and our own creativity.
  • 17:42 - 17:45
    We can't wait for the people in power
    to make things better for us,
  • 17:45 - 17:49
    because they are never going to,
    not unless we make them.
  • 17:53 - 17:58
    They say that human nature is competitive,
    that human nature is aggressive,
  • 17:58 - 18:00
    that human nature is selfish.
  • 18:00 - 18:04
    It's just the opposite;
    human nature is actually cooperative,
  • 18:04 - 18:09
    human nature is actually generous,
    human nature is actually community-minded.
  • 18:09 - 18:14
    What we see here at this conference
    with people sharing information,
  • 18:14 - 18:17
    people receiving information,
    people committed to the better world,
  • 18:17 - 18:19
    that's actually human nature.
  • 18:19 - 18:21
    And what I am saying to you is,
  • 18:21 - 18:24
    if you find that light within,
    if you find your own nature,
  • 18:24 - 18:26
    then we will be kinder to ourselves
  • 18:26 - 18:28
    and we will also be kinder to nature.
  • 18:28 - 18:29
    Thank you.
  • 18:29 - 18:32
    (Cheers) (Applause)
Title:
Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20
Description:

This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.

If the success of a doctor is measured by the longevity of his patients, the post-Nazi genocide Hungarian-born, Canadian psychiatrist Gabor Maté is a failure. As a specialist in terminal illnesses, chemical dependents, and HIV positive patients, Dr. Maté is a renowned author of books and columnist known for his knowledge about attention deficit disorder, stress, chronic illness and parental relations. His theme at TEDxRio+20 was addiction -- from drugs to power. From the lack of love to the desire to escape oneself, from susceptibility of the being to interior power, nothing escapes. And he risks a generic and generous prescription: "Find your nature and be nice to yourself."

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18:47
  • Typos

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    the words of the great Egyptian novelist,
    Naguib Mahvouz, who wrote:
    --> Mahfouz

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    The human brains itself,
    as you've heard already,
    --> brain (sing.)

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    I looked at Genghis Kahn,
    I looked at Stalin.
    --> Khan

    Thanks!

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