Changing our minds about food waste | Haven Baker | TEDxBoise
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0:07 - 0:08Good afternoon.
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0:08 - 0:11I'm excited to talk you about
changing our minds about food waste. -
0:11 - 0:13Before I get into food waste though,
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0:13 - 0:17I'd like us to step back
and think about changing our minds. -
0:17 - 0:20When is the last time you changed
your mind about something? -
0:20 - 0:25I don't mean about what you want
for dinner or perhaps your weekend plans, -
0:25 - 0:28but something significant:
maybe religion, -
0:28 - 0:31maybe how you feel
about someone important in your life, -
0:31 - 0:36or a long-held belief
that suddenly had to change. -
0:36 - 0:41Sometimes when we change our mind,
it's a process that takes its time. -
0:41 - 0:45Sometimes there's just one instant,
you thought one thing -
0:45 - 0:47and then the next is something different.
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0:47 - 0:52I'd like to tell you a little bit about
how I changed my mind about litter. -
0:52 - 0:55As I mentioned, I grew up
on a farm in Washington State, -
0:55 - 0:58and our farm bordered a highway.
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0:58 - 1:01It was about 1.5 mile stretch
and in the summer, -
1:01 - 1:04we drove that highway
three or four times back and forth, -
1:04 - 1:06checking on the fields,
changing water and the like. -
1:06 - 1:10The highway was littered
with beer bottles, beer cans, -
1:10 - 1:13those styrofoam packages
you used to get your hamburgers in, -
1:13 - 1:15paper, plastic, things like that.
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1:16 - 1:18Up close and personal,
it was kind of gross. -
1:19 - 1:22But as I think about my own litter habits,
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1:22 - 1:25I was raised in the '80s
when this was happening, -
1:25 - 1:29and you weren't supposed to litter
but it was more a matter of convenience. -
1:29 - 1:33So I have to say that when
you're going down the road, -
1:33 - 1:36and if it was a little bit messy,
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1:36 - 1:39it was okay to roll down
your window and toss it out. -
1:39 - 1:43If you didn't have a garbage bag
for your pop can, -
1:43 - 1:46sometimes it did go out
the window unfortunately. -
1:46 - 1:49Terrible, I know!
I'm ashamed about it now. -
1:50 - 1:55So, I had a summer job with the retired
high school math teacher, -
1:55 - 1:58and what we were doing is checking
these agricultural fields. -
1:58 - 2:02We'd drive from field to field
in a pick up truck and take soil samples. -
2:04 - 2:07This guy had been doing
the job a long time. -
2:07 - 2:10I remember my first trip with him.
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2:10 - 2:12He had his favorite spot for lunch.
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2:12 - 2:15It was a beautiful field
on your right, you just tested it. -
2:15 - 2:19There were a dirt road, a ditch,
an embankment and another field, -
2:19 - 2:21and there happened to be
at least one big tree, -
2:21 - 2:24so if you parked in the right spot,
you had shade. -
2:24 - 2:27You could eat your lunch
in the shade in a hot day. -
2:27 - 2:30Anyway, we sit down
and get our bag lunches out. -
2:30 - 2:33He likes sardines and is eating it away.
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2:33 - 2:37Now, he gets done with the sardine can,
rolls down the window and tosses it out. -
2:38 - 2:39Then, we finish our lunches.
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2:39 - 2:42He puts it in its bag,
throws it out the window, -
2:42 - 2:45finishes the soda can,
same thing. Terrible! -
2:45 - 2:48Somewhere in there, I looked
through the driver's window -
2:48 - 2:51and I could see
on the far embankment, -
2:51 - 2:55there was a small pile
of sardine and soda cans, -
2:55 - 2:58and some of them were gray -
they had been there a year or two. -
2:58 - 3:01He'd been eating in the same spot
for several years, unfortunately. -
3:02 - 3:05For me, at that moment, I could connect
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3:05 - 3:09the actions of one individual
with the litter problem, and I realized: -
3:09 - 3:14"Oh, if this is how you act, this is what
you get. I shouldn't litter anymore." -
3:14 - 3:18I've tried to do a good job since then,
be respectful and stop that problem. -
3:19 - 3:22If you look at our highways,
they are so much cleaner. -
3:22 - 3:25Collectively, we've changed
our minds about litter. -
3:25 - 3:28And it's for the better.
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3:28 - 3:34Now, changing our minds is something
we often think other people should do. -
3:34 - 3:37We're right, more enlightened,
and especially sophisticates. -
3:37 - 3:40So, you change your mind
and we got it right. -
3:40 - 3:44Maybe the more educated you are,
the more you feel you got it right. -
3:45 - 3:49Since the Middle Ages,
it was considered that to be educated, -
3:49 - 3:52you had to know Greek
and Latin, sometimes French. -
3:52 - 3:56If you go look at the old letters
they wrote to each other in Latin. -
3:57 - 4:01When Northwestern University
was founded in the 1850s, -
4:01 - 4:04they had a requirement
for Greek and Latin. -
4:04 - 4:06It wasn't a requirement in college.
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4:06 - 4:09You had to have studied it
in high school to even be admitted. -
4:09 - 4:12That was the standard view.
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4:12 - 4:17If you were educated, your college
application had Greek and Latin on it. -
4:18 - 4:22As the Industrial Revolution happened,
it became a little bit more controversial, -
4:22 - 4:26and Harvard dropped the requirement
for Greek in the late 1880s, -
4:26 - 4:29Latin a little while later,
and all the other colleges followed. -
4:29 - 4:33Within a couple of decades,
our society had changed its mind -
4:33 - 4:36about what it meant to be educated.
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4:36 - 4:39I think we're all for the better.
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4:39 - 4:41We now study math and science.
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4:41 - 4:47We study other subjects like Art,
rather than Latin and Greek. -
4:50 - 4:53Our perceptions of beauty can change too.
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4:53 - 4:56I think we all know who this is:
Michael Jordan. -
4:58 - 5:02When we think of Michael Jordan,
he's generally known for three things: -
5:02 - 5:05first that tongue, the "wagging tongue,"
we remember that; -
5:05 - 5:10second, sneakers -
selling sneakers Air Jordan; -
5:10 - 5:13then lastly, of course,
his athletic prowess -
5:13 - 5:16that led the Chicago Bulls
to six NBA Championships. -
5:16 - 5:21However, as History progresses,
some have suggested -
5:21 - 5:24that when we look back
on the career of Michael Jordan, -
5:24 - 5:29his greatest impact on all of us
will be to make baldness cool. -
5:29 - 5:31(Laughter)
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5:31 - 5:34Yeah! ... And it wasn't just him,
it was Patrick Stewart. -
5:34 - 5:37But up until this time,
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5:37 - 5:42up until this time, we had wigs
in England and toupees in the '80s, -
5:42 - 5:45and if you were going bald,
it was embarrassing, -
5:45 - 5:47and you did everything you can about it.
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5:47 - 5:49Now, a couple of decades later,
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5:49 - 5:52the University of Pennsylvania
just did a study. -
5:53 - 5:55It was on women,
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5:55 - 5:58and bald men were considered
to be more masculine. -
5:59 - 6:01So, we've changed our perception.
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6:01 - 6:04At least half of us did change
their perception about baldness -
6:04 - 6:07in a series of couple of decades,
and it's fantastic. -
6:07 - 6:09We changed our mind.
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6:11 - 6:15So, we need to think about
changing our mind about food waste. -
6:16 - 6:22There are close to a billion people
who are malnourished in the world, -
6:23 - 6:25and food waste is a problem.
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6:25 - 6:27I remember when I was a kid,
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6:27 - 6:31it was in one of those African famines,
my mom served the meal - -
6:31 - 6:34I was full or didn't like it
at all, I don't remember - -
6:34 - 6:35passed the plate to me.
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6:35 - 6:39I took a couple of bites,
pushed it back and said, "I'm done." -
6:39 - 6:41She says "You're going to eat that.
- No I'm not." -
6:41 - 6:45She says, "There are millions of starving
kids in Africa, you need to eat your food." -
6:45 - 6:48And I say, "Okay, well, give it to them."
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6:49 - 6:53Once it's on the plate,
there is a food waste problem, -
6:53 - 6:56but the food waste that I want
to talk about is between farm to fork, -
6:56 - 7:00because once it gets to the plate,
it's a bit harder to deal with. -
7:00 - 7:05The USDA, on the conservative side,
has been noted to say -
7:05 - 7:10that we're losing 33% of food
between farms and the plate, -
7:10 - 7:13and some other estimate
that it's closer to half. -
7:13 - 7:17So, the truth is probably somewhere
in between, depending on the item. -
7:18 - 7:20There are various solutions.
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7:21 - 7:25The ones I want to focus on today
have to do do with the produce aisle. -
7:26 - 7:29We take it for granted,
but one of the beautiful things -
7:29 - 7:32about growing up
in North America or Europe -
7:32 - 7:35is to be able to walk
into a grocery store, -
7:35 - 7:38look at the produce -
there's dozens of kinds of produce. -
7:38 - 7:42It's inexpensive, safe, ripe,
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7:42 - 7:44smells good, and there's just a variety.
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7:45 - 7:47It's there almost every day of the year.
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7:47 - 7:50We don't even think about it,
we just expect it. -
7:50 - 7:53It hasn't been like this for that long,
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7:53 - 7:56and most of the rest of the world
doesn't get to eat like us. -
7:56 - 8:00But the food waste problem
is particularly severe in produce. -
8:01 - 8:04Where we can grow produce
is relatively restricted, -
8:04 - 8:06so fixing the food waste on produce
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8:06 - 8:10would make it more available
for everyone else. -
8:11 - 8:15How does this problem start
and what can we do about it? -
8:16 - 8:19We'll use strawberries as an example.
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8:19 - 8:22We buy them in clamshells.
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8:22 - 8:24They're generally a pound or two.
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8:24 - 8:27You can buy them in a flat
if they're cheap. -
8:28 - 8:30We take them home and we eat them.
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8:30 - 8:34But strawberries start
in California or Florida, -
8:34 - 8:36or Baja California in Mexico.
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8:36 - 8:39These are the places where strawberries
are primarily grown. -
8:40 - 8:42It starts on farms there,
and strawberries are particular -
8:42 - 8:45because they've a shelf life
of seven to eight days. -
8:45 - 8:47So from the time they're picked
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8:47 - 8:50to the time they're going bad
in your fridge, is eight days. -
8:51 - 8:54The food waste happens in that time.
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8:54 - 8:59So on farm, there are these berms
about this high and this wide, -
8:59 - 9:03and strawberries are still picked
manually - you walk on and pick them. -
9:04 - 9:07For strawberries,
the on-farm food waste isn't that bad. -
9:07 - 9:11Generally, five to ten percent
is being left in the field, -
9:11 - 9:15and the ones we're leaving
are usually either overripe or misshapen. -
9:15 - 9:19So, relative to some other produce items,
it could be a lot higher, -
9:19 - 9:22but it's five to ten percent
food waste on farm. -
9:23 - 9:26Then, they're loaded,
they're quickly cooled for 12-18 hours; -
9:26 - 9:30they're loaded on trucks
to go to distribution centers, -
9:30 - 9:33to supermarkets, to where we buy them.
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9:34 - 9:39One of the issues on strawberries,
is that, in that distribution center, -
9:39 - 9:43if there are any inefficiencies,
the shelf life becomes a real problem. -
9:43 - 9:48Last summer, I sat down with a senior
buyer for a major supermarket chain. -
9:48 - 9:54He admitted that 30% of the berries
they buy are being thrown away -
9:54 - 9:56before they get to consumer shelves.
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9:56 - 9:58Occasionally, they get
too ripe on the shelf, -
9:58 - 10:00but that's before we even see them.
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10:00 - 10:03So you lost 10% on farm,
and now you loss another 30%, -
10:03 - 10:06and then we're taking them home.
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10:07 - 10:09My family's experience on buying berries
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10:09 - 10:13is that we'd buy the berries -
they look like this -, take them home, -
10:13 - 10:16and if they're great tasting berries,
they'll get eaten right away. -
10:16 - 10:19Kids are right at them.
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10:19 - 10:22However, if they weren't
especially great tasting -
10:22 - 10:26or looked a little funny,
or if I was saving them for an event, -
10:26 - 10:29I might only use half of them,
or a portion of them, -
10:29 - 10:31and then they go in the fridge
and you guys all know, -
10:31 - 10:35you have about a day, a day and a half,
before they look like this. -
10:36 - 10:38This is what we in America experience.
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10:38 - 10:41Now, if you live in California,
it isn't quite so bad -
10:41 - 10:43because you're right there
where they're grown. -
10:43 - 10:46So they don't always see the problem
as bad as the rest of us see it. -
10:46 - 10:51But generally, we're losing another third
at the consumer level. -
10:51 - 10:57So collectively, we're buying $6 billion
with the strawberries in the US, -
10:57 - 11:01and we're eating 35, maybe 40% of them,
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11:01 - 11:03and that's the food waste problem.
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11:04 - 11:07So what can we do about it?
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11:09 - 11:11There's a couple of solutions,
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11:11 - 11:14but that's going to require us
to change our mind. -
11:14 - 11:17You've all been to the supermarket,
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11:17 - 11:20and maybe you've seen crooked carrots
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11:20 - 11:25or tomatoes
that aren't quite perfect round, -
11:25 - 11:27apples that are lopsided,
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11:27 - 11:29pears that have those striations down them
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11:29 - 11:34where they cracked or otherwise,
now, abraded on the field. -
11:35 - 11:42That's misshapen food and a lot of times
we're not ever seeing it as consumers, -
11:42 - 11:46because we've trained ourselves
to only buy what's perfect. -
11:47 - 11:51That "ugly food" as you would call it,
or misshapen food, -
11:51 - 11:54is often being disposed of
before we ever see it. -
11:54 - 11:57But if supplies are tight
or it's super cheap, -
11:57 - 12:00sometimes, we'll see it in the stores.
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12:01 - 12:05Nature doesn't produce a perfect berry
or a perfect tomato every time. -
12:06 - 12:10But those imperfect misshapen fruits
are still nutritious. -
12:10 - 12:12They are still ripe and tasty.
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12:12 - 12:16There's a movement that started in Europe
that is getting going in the States. -
12:16 - 12:18It's called the Ugly Food Movement.
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12:18 - 12:20(Laughter)
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12:20 - 12:22Okay.
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12:22 - 12:25So other than maybe not being
the most visually appealing -
12:25 - 12:27this is great produce.
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12:27 - 12:31There's no reason why we shouldn't be
buying it and consuming it. -
12:32 - 12:35This would help solve
part of the food waste problem. -
12:36 - 12:39But it doesn't solve the shelf life issue.
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12:40 - 12:45On the shelf life, we've a couple
of solutions that are in the works. -
12:45 - 12:50One group of entrepreneurs
is building green houses -
12:50 - 12:52on rooftops or near urban areas, saying,
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12:52 - 12:56"Hey, if we can grow
our produce close to cities, -
12:56 - 12:59we can have a longer shelf life,
no transportation, it would be easier." -
12:59 - 13:02Some are even delivering to your house.
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13:02 - 13:04Tomatoes grow really well
in those environments, -
13:04 - 13:06as well as some types of lettuce.
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13:06 - 13:08We certainly can't grow fruit that way
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13:08 - 13:11and it's not clear
that we can grow all vegetables. -
13:12 - 13:14So far, they're more expensive
not less expensive -
13:14 - 13:16than a farm-produced produce.
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13:16 - 13:21So while I think greenhouse production
close to cities is a partial solution, -
13:21 - 13:24it's not going to be a complete solution.
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13:24 - 13:27The other part of the solution of course,
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13:27 - 13:31is biotechnology or genetic engineering.
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13:32 - 13:36Twenty-five years ago,
the Flavr Savr Tomato was launched. -
13:36 - 13:39It was a tomato that had extra shelf life.
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13:39 - 13:42It wasn't perfect, but there was
true shelf life that was there. -
13:43 - 13:46It was at the beginning when biotechnology
was coming on the market. -
13:46 - 13:49Groups of people
were a little worried and scared -
13:49 - 13:52and they formed groups and opposed it.
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13:53 - 13:56People that are against GMOs
still consider -
13:56 - 13:59defeating Flavr Savr Tomato
as one of their big wins. -
14:00 - 14:05Not to judge those times,
but I think from our times now, -
14:05 - 14:08we can see there aren't
other solutions to shelf life. -
14:09 - 14:13If we want everybody to be able
to eat like us, we need longer shelf life. -
14:13 - 14:16Some of these technology solutions
are now known to be safe, -
14:16 - 14:20they're recommended by Nobel Laureates,
the National Academy of Sciences, -
14:20 - 14:22and the technology has improved.
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14:22 - 14:25Recently in India, they published a paper,
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14:25 - 14:29and showed tomatoes that had 45 days
of shelf life, if you can believe it. -
14:29 - 14:33Just a month, if it only worked
for four weeks instead of 45 days, -
14:33 - 14:36it would significantly change
the food waste problem. -
14:38 - 14:41So, when we run into shelf life issues,
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14:41 - 14:44sometimes we're able to give these away
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14:44 - 14:47but most of the time,
they're going in the garbage can. -
14:49 - 14:51These are the solutions:
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14:51 - 14:55more greenhouse production,
especially near cities, -
14:55 - 14:57biotechnology,
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14:57 - 14:58and eating the ugly food.
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14:59 - 15:00But there is a paradox.
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15:00 - 15:04Some of these topics
are easier to talk about -
15:04 - 15:07and some of them
are harder to actually do. -
15:07 - 15:10Let's think about
how we change our minds. -
15:10 - 15:13Think about when you have
a conversation, -
15:13 - 15:17a colloquial or a familiar conversation -
water cooler at work, -
15:17 - 15:20maybe a family dinner table,
maybe a bar with friends. -
15:20 - 15:24Collectively, I can imagine us
all sitting down or a small group of us, -
15:24 - 15:27and you say, "Yes, we're on board.
We need to change the food waste. -
15:27 - 15:30We need to solve this problem.
I'm going to buy ugly food." -
15:30 - 15:35We could all say, "As long as it doesn't
taste different, well, I will buy it." -
15:35 - 15:41However, when we go to the supermarket,
our minds and our eyes are not connected. -
15:41 - 15:44We naturally buy what's pretty.
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15:44 - 15:47Okay? So, we have to change our minds.
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15:47 - 15:53We've to disassociate, be more open
and buy what we know is safe, -
15:53 - 15:57cognitively, mentally,
but maybe doesn't look the prettiest. -
15:57 - 15:59That takes us to the ugly food.
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15:59 - 16:01The shelf life issue is a different issue.
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16:01 - 16:03Greenhouses are probably fine.
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16:03 - 16:07It'll be higher priced, very likely,
but we can all accept that. -
16:08 - 16:11If we're having the same conversation
about biotechnology, -
16:11 - 16:13some of us aren't as secure about that.
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16:13 - 16:16I believe it's safe.
It's fine for my family. -
16:16 - 16:18I believe that that's the solution,
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16:18 - 16:21especially for the shelf life
of fruits and vegetables. -
16:21 - 16:24But I don't expect everyone
to be convinced it is. -
16:24 - 16:28However, we have our conversation,
I'm not sure everyone's on the same page. -
16:28 - 16:31As soon as you go to the store,
you're going to buy sodas, -
16:31 - 16:35papaya, corn chips,
and a whole bunch of other items -
16:35 - 16:38that all have GMO ingredients,
and nobody ever thinks twice about it. -
16:39 - 16:43We have to change how we feel
about the technology -
16:43 - 16:45so that it can go
into fruits and vegetables -
16:45 - 16:49and people make this possible for us.
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16:51 - 16:56Collectively, I hope we can all step back
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16:56 - 16:59and think about changing our minds
about food waste. -
16:59 - 17:04I'm an optimist, I think that we
as a group, a crowd, a society, -
17:04 - 17:07when we change our minds
we're changing it for the better. -
17:07 - 17:09We're trying to make
improvements for society. -
17:09 - 17:12We're trying to make life better
for those around us. -
17:13 - 17:16Working on food waste,
changing our minds about food waste -
17:16 - 17:18will make our planet a better place.
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17:19 - 17:20Thank you very much.
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17:20 - 17:22(Applause)
- Title:
- Changing our minds about food waste | Haven Baker | TEDxBoise
- Description:
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Take a walk through your local grocer’s produce section and stop to appreciate the dizzying array of colors, shapes and smells. Plentiful, reasonably-priced fruits and vegetables are one of the unsung delights of the developed world. We will struggle to meet an increasing demand in a sustainable way unless we tackle the epidemic of food waste. Solving this problem for fresh produce may require our society to embrace a variety of unorthodox solutions.
Haven Baker is the son of a farmer, giving him unique insight into the inefficiencies of modern agriculture. he went on to study at Yale and Harvard, earning and MBA and doctorate before becoming an international fund manager to better learn the economies of the developing world. In his role at Simplot, he leads the team responsible for the world's first biotech crop with consumer traits, which has the potential to cut potato waste in the U.S. by 1.4 billion pounds annually.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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- English
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