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Suffrage victory

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    ♪I've been down to Madison
    To see the folks and sights;♪
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    ♪You'd laugh, I'm sure, to hear them talk
    About the women's rights.♪
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    ♪Now it's just as plain as my old hat,
    That's plain as plain can be♪
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    ♪That if the women want the vote,
    They'll get no help from me.♪
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    ♪Not from Joe, not from Joe;
    If he knows it...♪
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    Looking back today,
    it's somewhat difficult to understand
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    the violence of the opposition
    to woman's suffrage.
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    Conservative opinion in the country was
    of course almost universally opposed
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    to the idea of women voting.
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    The Church was divided in its position.
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    While some denominations
    and individual clergymen
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    were among the most zealous
    advocates of the movement,
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    others took the stand that women's
    political emancipation would mean
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    the beginning of the end
    of the social morality
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    which constituted
    the moral strength of the nation.
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    The enfranchisement of women,
    it was feared
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    would result in the dissolution
    of the home and family
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    and the destruction
    of the institution of marriage.
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    The most pessimistic of the prophets
    predicted that the very act of
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    women's going to the polls and mingling
    with the rough crowds on election day
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    would plunge the country into moral chaos.
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    Professional politicians and certain
    powerful big business interests
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    were just as violently opposed
    to vote for women,
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    if for very different reasons.
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    Political leaders felt that they knew
    how to manipulate men for party purposes
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    but manipulating women
    was an unknown quantity
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    which they wished to avoid
    as long as possible.
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    The organized liquor industries,
    with their fear of women's influence
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    on the prohibition issue, spent
    countless thousands of dollars
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    lobbying against women's suffrage, which
    they felt threatened their very existence.
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    Add to these elements the fact that
    most men of the country
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    were understandably reluctant to forego
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    their traditional position
    of sex superiority,
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    which was in a sense symbolized
    by their power to vote
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    and the fact that many women were quite
    as unwilling to give up
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    the protected position in which men's
    chivalry had placed them
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    and perhaps we can understand why
    the battle for woman's suffrage
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    was inevitably a long and stormy one.
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    After the disheartening failure to obtain
    the franchise by federal amendment
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    at the close of the Civil War, when the
    Negro was admitted to the vote,
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    the suffragists changed their tactics and
    began to concentrate their main strength
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    on a policy of winning the suffrage
    state by state.
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    By the turn of the 20th century the
    National Woman Suffrage Association
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    was a powerful organization with
    headquarters in New York
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    and an efficiently functioning machine in
    almost every state of the Union.
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    Four states in the far West had already
    granted women full suffrage as a result of
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    the Association's work and by 1914 almost
    all the states west of the Mississippi had
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    joined the ranks of the suffrage states
    and the Association was turning its forces
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    to the conquest of the traditionally more
    conservative East.
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    Sinclair Lewis in the novel 'Ann Vickers',
    published in 1932, has left an amusing
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    account of one of these state suffrage
    campaigns during this period.
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    In the following incident from this work
    one Dr Melvina Wormser of New York,
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    purportedly Chief Surgeon of the Manhattan
    Hospital for Women,
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    President of the Better Obstetrical League,
    author of 'Emancipation in Sex',
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    Doctor of Science of Yale and Vassar and
    an officer in all known birth control
    organizations,
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    is interviewed by the press in advance of
    her scheduled speech at a suffrage rally
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    in a city called Clateburn, Ohio.
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    The professional suffragist, says Lewis,
    had been cautioned about talking to the
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    press since the reporters, or at least
    their editors, were always on the alert
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    for something scandalous from suffrage
    headquarters, some hint that it was a
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    free love colony or (what was nearly as
    good, says Lewis) a frenzied zoo of
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    manhaters, anarchists, atheists,
    spiritualists or anything else
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    eccentric or discreditable.
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    The workers for the cause might attack the
    water or gas departments,
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    the city orphanages, President Wilson or
    even the Allies in the Great War,
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    but they must do so only as Christian
    gentlewomen and solid taxpayers.
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    They must convince others that the vote
    will not lead to moral laxity
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    but would immediately end prostitution,
    gambling and the drinking of beer.
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    But Dr Melvina Wormser of New York,
    as guest speaker,
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    was outside headquarters discipline and a
    law unto herself.
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    Here the young suffrage workers in
    'Ann Vickers' stand by in shocked silence
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    as Dr Wormser delivers her opinions
    to the delighted reporters:
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    [Dr Wormser, do you believe in free love?]
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    Do I believe in free love? What do you
    mean by that, young lady?
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    How can love be anything but free? If
    you mean, do I believe that any authentic
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    passion, not just a momentary itch in the
    moonlight, is superior to any ceremony
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    performed by some preacher, why of course,
    don't you?
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    [What do you think about birth control?]
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    [Do you think women are brighter
    than men?]
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    [Do you think there's any field women
    should not enter?]
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    Oh, one at a time please! Let's see: do I
    believe that women are brighter than men?
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    Tut tut, what a question! Not brighter --
    just less mean. But don't try to get me to
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    riding men. I'm a folorn old maid, but I
    adore 'em, the darlings.
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    What do you suppose men doctors would ever
    do without their women nurses
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    and secretaries? I know! I was a nurse
    myself, before I became a doc.
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    And now my chief satisfaction in life is
    that I don't have to stand up when a
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    surgeon enters the room!
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    Silly customs like that -- just what a man
    WOULD institute -- poor lambs, we have
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    to take care of 'em and their little egos!
    That's why we need the vote, for THEIR
    sake!
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    [Do you think there will ever be a woman
    President?]
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    How do I know, young man? But let me point
    out that women rulers -- Queen Elizabeth,
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    that lovely rakehell Catherine of Russia,
    the last Chinese Empress,
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    Maria Theresa of Austria, Queen Anne, and
    Victoria -- were better rulers than any
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    equal number of kings OR Presidents!
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    [How soon do you predict women's suffrage
    will be the law of the land?]
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    You boys and girls might as well know that
    I don't believe in hedging and pussyfooting.
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    This is going to be a long struggle. Not
    just getting the vote.
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    That's a matter of a couple of years.
    Then we've got to go on.
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    Birth control. Separate apartments for
    married couples, if they happen to like them.
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    What women need is not merely the vote but
    something more up here, in the head.
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    Don't need just exterior opportunity but
    something interior, with which to grab the
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    opportunity when we get it, and use it.
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    Freedom's no good to a pussycat, only to a
    tigress!
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    And women have got to stick together. Men
    always have had the sense to -- drat 'em --
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    Sex loyalty. We ought to lie for one
    another and sneak off and have a good drink
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    together, like the men.
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    [Do you want to rival men?]
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    [Do you think there's any field that should
    be closed to women?]
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    I believe that there is no field that men
    control now that women can't enter,
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    completely. Medicine, law, politics,
    physics, aviation, exploring, engineering,
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    soldiering, prize-fighting, writing sweet
    little rondels -- only I hope women'll be
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    too sensible for either the prize-fighting
    or the rondels, which are both forms of
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    male escapism, and singularly alike if you
    look at 'em!
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    Only I don't expect women to imitate or
    try to displace men in any of these fields.
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    I'm not one of the gels who believes that
    the sole difference between males and
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    females is in conception. Women have
    special qualities which the human race has
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    failed to use for civilization.
    I know a woman can be as good an architect
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    as any man -- but she may be a different
    sort of architect. I bring something to
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    medicine that no man can, no matter how
    good he is.
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    [Well, how about the army?]
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    Well, if you think women can't go to war,
    remember what the Teuton tribes, marching
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    with their women along, did to the
    beautiful, virile, professional men
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    soldiers of Rome! But the pig-headed
    masculine world forgot that lesson for
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    fifteen hundred years and never discovered
    it till Florence Nightingale happened in
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    and bullied the masculine British War
    Office into some of the common sense that
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    any normal girl would have at seven!
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    [Do you want to rival men?]
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    No, I don't want to rival men. But I don't
    want to be kept by the tradition of
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    feminine subjection from the privilege of
    working eighteen hours a day.
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    I'm not much of a democrat. Believe
    inferiors ought to be subjected,
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    if they ARE inferiors! But if a girl
    secretary is smarter than her male boss,
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    let HIM be HER secretary.
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    Listen! In 1945, maybe you'll have to go
    to England -- that's where they invented
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    this Inferior Women myth, so men could
    have their clubs -- maybe you'll have to
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    go to England to find anybody so benighted
    that he'll even know what you're talking
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    about when you speak of considering
    candidates for a job as male and female,
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    or on any other basis except
    their ability!
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    [Why 1945, Dr Wormser?]
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    I speak of 1945 because I have a hunch
    that after we get the vote we'll be less
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    ardent feminists. We'll find that work is
    hard. That jobs are insecure. That we must
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    go much deeper than woman suffrage --
    maybe to Socialism; anyway, to something
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    that fundamentally represents both men and
    women, not just women alone.
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    And a lot of suffragists that pretend to
    hate men will find the dear brutes are
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    nice to have around the house. We'll slump.
    But then we'll come back -- not as shadows
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    of men, or as noisy professional females,
    but, for the first time since
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    Queen Elizabeth, as human beings! There!
    You ought to be able to get sufficient out
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    of what I've said to make trouble enough
    for me to satisfy even a suffrage speaker!
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    Good-day.
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    [Oh, thank you, Dr Wormser!]
    [Goodbye, Doctor, and thank you!]
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    This goes on Sinclair Lewis's Ann Vickers
    as what the newspapers made of Dr. Wormser's
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    interview the next morning: "Love is
    nothing but a temporary itch caused by
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    moonlight. But even so, it is more
    important than lasting marriage.
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    Because marriages are performed by
    ministers who are all childish. Free
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    love-that is, taking any sweetheart, any
    time you choose is not only permissible
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    but necessary for any free woman. Men are
    much meaner than women. Men doctors boss
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    their nurses around and treat them simply
    terrible. The next president of the United
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    States will be a woman and she will be
    lots better than any man. Marie Louise of
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    Russia was the greatest king who ever
    lived. As soon as we get the vote, then
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    we're going on and advocate birth control
    socialism, and atheism. All married
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    couples will live in separate apartments
    and women will imitate men and sneak off
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    and get drunk together. Women must lie
    about one another's whereabouts to fool
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    the men. Women will make better soldiers,
    prize-fighters, engineers, and poets than
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    men, and men are fit only to be the
    secretaries and servants of women. I know
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    that talking frankly like this will get
    me into trouble, but all suffrage speakers
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    love publicity and I guess I'll get plenty
    on this." Dr. Wormster's interview had the
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    effect of selling out the house for the
    suffrage meeting that evening, with
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    hundreds more trying to get in.
    (Crowd sounds) The crowd was threatening
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    and snarling. ["I oughta ride them out on
    a rail!" "Bunch of floozies, all of them
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    crazy, that's what they are!" "I
    wouldn't have a woman doc for a sick cat!'
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    "Free love! I'd like to show em some free
    love..with a club!" "Bunch of crazy
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    anarchists!"] But there were enough
    sympathizers with the movement to keep
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    down violence. Backstage, before the
    meeting, the suffragists were nervous and
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    apprehensive. "Oh, those cursed newspapers!
    Will some of you explain to me why every
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    single reporter and editor on a paper can
    be a liberal or perhaps a Red and the
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    paper itself is conservative as the
    measles? Oh, don't worry Dr. Wormser, I
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    have my Dudley and my two large brothers
    out there. They've stopped at the club
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    for a drink and by this time they'll be
    equal to handling at least 300 bullies."
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    (Cheers) "8:27. Oo, let's get started,
    Doctor, and get it over!" "Listen, you
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    girls. Eleanor, Pat, and Ann. The minute
    the doctor starts talking, you all skip
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    to the back of the house and if anything
    starts, see what you can do will you?
Title:
Suffrage victory
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Produced by Virginia Maynard and Charles Levy.

On the battle for women's suffrage.

From Pop Up Archive »Pacifica Radio Archives - see https://www.popuparchive.com/collections/925/items/6793 for audio + an automatically generated transcript

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