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Restart life after a tragedy; any help counts | Melissa Fleming & Alexis Pantazis | TEDxThessaloniki

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    (Greek) Elena Papadopoulou: Last year,
    when we asked Melissa Fleming
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    to give a talk at TEDxThessaloniki 2015,
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    we could not possibly
    have imagined the role
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    the refugee crisis
    would be playing in our lives,
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    not only in Greece and Europe
    but in the whole world.
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    Melissa’s talk, given
    at last year’s TEDxThessaloniki event,
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    has been viewed over 1 million,
    almost 1.5 million times on TED channel.
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    Her talk helped most of us
    see in the face of Doaa
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    the faces of all the people
    forced to flee their countries
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    in the hope of being able
    to lead an “ordinary life,”
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    far away from the permanent threat of war.
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    Doaa was a lucky and heroic young woman.
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    She was among the few people
    who survived a tragic shipwreck
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    that happened
    in the Mediterranean Sea in 2014.
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    Fortunately, she managed
    to survive and save a baby,
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    despite not knowing how to swim.
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    Melissa Fleming wished
    to be here in person
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    and share with us the rest of the story.
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    That is to say: “What happened to Doaa?
    Where is she today? What is she doing?”
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    Due to her work with the United Nations,
    Melissa couldn’t join us today.
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    However, she has sent us a short video
    that I would like us to watch.
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    (Video) Melissa Fleming: Hello friends
    at TEDxThessaloniki, hello Elena.
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    Really great to be with you again
    though only virtually.
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    I wish I was there in person.
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    Elena asked me to let you know
    what has happened
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    since I was on stage this time last year
    delivering a talk about Doaa Al Zamal,
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    the heroic Syrian refugee young woman
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    who survived one of the worst shipwrecks
    on the Mediterranean sea, 500 people died
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    and she managed to save a baby girl
    after 4 days on the water
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    and watching the love of her life,
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    her fiancé Bassam,
    die in front of her eyes.
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    This was a tragic yet very hopeful story,
    a story that has inspired so many people.
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    I am writing a book about her story.
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    And one of the fellow speakers
    at the conference last year,
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    Alexis Pantazis,
    of the company Hellas Direct,
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    was also inspired by Doaa’s speech
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    and he and his company awarded her
    a very generous scholarship,
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    which really helped her.
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    She‘s now been resettled
    with her family to Sweden
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    and she is putting it
    towards her education.
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    It’s really helping her
    to start her new life.
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    I think it inspired his company
    and also his clients as well
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    not just to hear about the usual story
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    of large numbers of Syrian refugees,
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    other refugees arriving
    on the shores of Greece.
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    No other country
    has received so many refugees
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    but a single story,
    a single story that inspired him
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    and inspired his fellow....
    I admit, all of his company.
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    I went to visit them in Athens,
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    a wonderful group of people
    who just said, "How can we help?"
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    I really think this company
    by doing so is showing
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    that if you help one individual,
    you are telling a larger story,
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    you are helping that person a lot but
    it also has an echo and a ripple effect.
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    It shows that one person,
    one company can do and influence a lot.
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    Private sector is doing a lot
    to help in the refugee crisis.
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    This is a crisis
    that is the worst since WWII.
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    We have 60 million people
    forcibly displaced.
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    And no time since WWII have we had
    so many people on the run.
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    Governments can’t do it alone
    and as you see
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    -- you are sitting in Thessaloniki,
    very close to the border of the FYROM --
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    the countries are reacting in ways now
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    which is shutting people off
    rather than embracing them.
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    We are seeing, hearing wonderful stories
    of individual actions
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    by local Greek citizens,
    I can’t even tell - I read one a day.
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    It really warms my heart.
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    A baker in Ιdomeni who took in
    families in his home
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    because he couldn’t stand
    to see them suffering in the cold.
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    One after the other these kind of stories,
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    private companies coming in
    to provide food, shelter.
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    Local NGOs filling in gaps of governments.
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    I think we are a time right now
    where the compassion is losing out
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    over the fear that is taking over,
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    the fear that is being
    exploited by politicians
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    who are really worried, more worried
    about losing their power
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    than they are about protecting people
    who are fleeing from war and persecution.
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    So all I wanted to say is thank you
    for this opportunity to speak.
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    Who would have known
    last year at this time
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    that Greece would become the center stage
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    for the biggest refugee crisis
    that the world has seen in a long time.
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    It is really, really difficult,
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    the humanitarian situation
    right now in Greece
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    and I really thank you all
    for caring and for doing your part.
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    Thanks and have
    a great TEDxThessaloniki 2016.
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    (Applause)
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    (Greek) EP: Melissa really wished to be
    here and share these few words with us.
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    So, I considered this video
    would be a unique opportunity
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    for us to see what happens when
    the lights of TEDxThessaloniki dim,
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    after all these stories have been told.
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    What do they leave us with?
    What do they encourage us to do?
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    What do they inspire us to do
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    so that each one of us can contribute
    to our world the way they can?
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    Following Melissa,
    we asked Alexis Pantazis,
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    whom Melissa mentioned in the video,
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    to give a talk at last year’s
    TEDxThessaloniki.
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    We approached him
    in his capacity of an entrepreneur,
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    namely, the founder of Hellas Direct.
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    So when he came to speak and we started
    talking about his presentation,
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    we expected that he would
    give a talk about entrepreneurship.
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    However, Alexis surprised us,
    thankfully in a pleasant way,
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    and he focused on a different topic,
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    which proved to be of great importance
    in entrepreneurship
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    and it has to do with one’s “mindset.”
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    Alexis focused on the mentality
    of refugees and immigrants,
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    on creating opportunities
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    and, why not, to make them
    work to their benefit.
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    So, last year, at TEDxThessaloniki,
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    Alexis met Melissa and the other speakers
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    and he decided to do something
    to help or to contribute,
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    in his own way and through his company.
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    Alexis Pantazis is here with us today
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    and I would like to invite him up on stage
    to discuss a few things
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    and share with you the way
    they went on to work together
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    or, if you prefer, what his contribution
    to Doaa’s story has been.
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    Alexis.
    (Applause)
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    Welcome! I am glad
    that you are here with us.
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    Most of us really wonder what is going on.
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    We come in to this hall
    - there are 700 of us in this building -
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    we get to know each other,
    listen to ideas, feel inspired,
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    but what happens
    when we leave this venue?
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    (English) So would you like
    to explain us briefly
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    what happened when you met with Melissa
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    and how this whole story
    became related to Hellas Direct?
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    Alexis Pantazis: Last year, the last
    but one speaker was myself
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    and the last one was Melissa.
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    And as I was finishing my talk
    and I started walking towards the back,
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    Melissa who I spent
    quite a bit of time with
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    - clearly because we were the only ones
    stuck there - we talked a lot about Doaa
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    and as she started coming on to the stage
    I could actually observe from the side
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    - I didn’t manage to get to my seat -
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    the facial expressions
    of all the people in the audience.
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    And I don’t know how many of you guys
    were here last year
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    but Melissa gave a very touching,
    emotional speech about the story of Doaa.
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    And what I‘ve realized
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    in the one day more or less
    that we spent together with Melissa
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    is that the story of Doaa
    represents a number of stories.
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    I would say thousands or even
    millions now of stories of refugees.
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    And one of the things that I noticed
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    as I was coming through
    the curtain on the main room
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    was that people were actually crying.
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    And what I've realized is
    that if we give an example
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    which is a human person of a big tragedy
    like the one we are going through now
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    to normal people like myself, yourselves,
    everybody who was in that room,
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    then people can relate to it
    and they can relate to it more.
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    So, we spoke with Melissa
    at the dinner afterwards
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    and it was a pretty emotional moment
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    because she gave
    a really amazing presentation
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    and I ask her,
    “So what is going on with Doaa?”
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    because that was last year,
    she survived 4 days into the sea,
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    she saved one life,
    she was granted the Award of bravery,
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    if I remember well,
    from the Athens Academy.
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    And Melissa said that, well, unfortunately
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    there was a lot of hype
    when everything happened,
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    there was a lot of headlines in the press.
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    There was a lot of talk,
    they invited her to different events
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    and then slowly but steadily
    as these things go, nobody really cared.
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    Melissa and her team did an amazing job
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    in trying to get her
    to get some legal papers
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    in order to go to Sweden
    which was her end goal
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    but Doaa was going through
    a bit of a rough patch.
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    She wasn’ t really feeling
    positive about the future,
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    the whole experience had sunk in.
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    She couldn’t see opportunity for her
    to be able to go abroad
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    and continue what she set out to do
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    with her fiancé at the time
    who unfortunately died in the wreck,
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    and that was to study.
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    She wanted to study to be a lawyer
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    in order to fight injustice
    in the whole world.
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    So, speaking with Melissa
    I was trying to figure out,
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    “Is there a way that I as an individual or
    we as a company, we could help in this?”
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    And we feel quite strongly about
    giving scholarships and we've done so
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    since the day that Emilios, my business
    partner and I founded the company.
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    But, "Is it possible that
    we could get involved in this?"
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    And Melissa was
    very, very supportive in this.
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    We started talking, the whole
    process took about 6 months.
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    Marilaura, who works with me, spent
    a lot of time speaking with Melissa
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    on what’s the best way to do it
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    and then you stumble
    into Greek bureaucracy,
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    where in order to give money,
    it’s even harder than to make money.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, we didn’t know whether
    we should give the money to Melissa
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    to give the money to Doaa;
    Doaa didn’t have an account.
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    So, we went through
    a lot of back and forths
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    but I think for us the bottom line was
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    that we decided that we are going
    to use Doaa’s story as a symbol,
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    as a small gesture on our part
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    to follow on from the spirit
    of TEDxThessaloniki last year,
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    grant her the scholarship for the degree
    that she really wanted to do.
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    As you heard from Melissa before,
    Doaa is now in Sweden
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    so that’s great news for everybody
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    and we just wanted to signal to other
    companies, individuals, organizations
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    that if everybody
    does their own little bit,
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    then we can really make a difference.
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    EP: So, your personal motive
    or the motive of Hellas Direct
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    was basically to make a difference in any
    way that you thought would be possible?
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    AP: I think for us it was
    a combination of two things.
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    The first one is:
    in what we do as a company,
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    we are trying to change
    the way our industry
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    - which is insurance industry -
    is being done.
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    So, we are trying, as we say,
    to rethink the whole chain.
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    We heard a lot of good stories before
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    whether it is from Alex Loizou
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    to talk about the buy-in
    of the whole company behind a culture.
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    So for us it is almost what we do
    in all other aspects of our lives,
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    so this was just an extension on
    the corporate social responsibility side.
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    Now, on that one, from the day
    we started the company
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    we've given a number of scholarships.
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    We gave two scholarships to people
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    to go and study in London
    at the City University.
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    We gave two scholarships
    to kids of policemen
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    because we felt that that as a group
    were not rewarded enough
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    for the contribution that they did
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    at least I road accidents which
    is what we really care about.
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    We've given a number
    of research grants so the fact
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    that we managed to divert some
    of these efforts onto Doaa in this case,
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    I think it sends an extra message of maybe
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    we can think of it a bit
    differently as an organization.
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    EP: Do you believe
    that the appropriate attitude
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    for either companies
    or for civil society actors,
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    in crisis of such magnitude
    as we are going through at the moment -
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    what do you think would be the right
    or more appropriate kind of mindset
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    that we would need to maybe adopt or try?
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    AP: I think as a mindset everybody
    has to react in the way that they see fit
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    and everybody’s values differ,
    whether it is on ethical levels
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    or on ideological levels
    or financial levels or any other way.
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    I think one of the things
    that we are realizing now,
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    especially in the European Union,
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    is that we cannot expect
    things to be done by the state
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    or by the European Union as a Union.
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    And everybody has different agendas,
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    everybody has different capabilities,
    different political beliefs,
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    so individuals and companies have
    a much more important role to play.
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    Unfortunately, in this part of the world
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    and in Cyprus where I am from
    it's exactly the same,
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    we tend to rely a lot
    on the role of the state,
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    that this is not my problem,
    they will do it,
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    and this day and age
    this does not seem to work.
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    So, I think any contribution on that
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    is at least changing gradually
    the mentality of people.
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    EP: Going back to your talk
    and actually the message of your talk,
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    you basically concentrated saying
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    that what it takes is
    a different kind of mindset
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    that usually refugees
    or immigrants tend to have
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    and that has a positive effect
    on the economy of a country
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    and maybe in evolving
    the society of a country.
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    Do you think that we are actually
    going through a same kind of situation
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    either in Greece or in Europe,
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    because basically we are
    more or less under the same terms?
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    I mean, we have
    a lot of immigrants and refugees
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    that are going through our countries.
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    Is this a same kind of opportunity
    that we may be facing with?
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    AP: I think it’s a huge opportunity,
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    but one thing we need to do
    as Europeans and as global citizens is,
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    “How you turn what is
    now a humanitarian crisis
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    into a full integration
    of these people into society?”
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    And I am not talking
    about a flattening of cultures,
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    religion and all that and languages.
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    I am really talking about how
    can we get these Syrian people coming in
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    and integrate them in a way
    that they are productive,
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    that there is social cohesion
    that actually works.
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    When you look at the demographics
    of the European Union
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    and compare them to the immigrants
    coming in, they are very different.
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    We are an aging, dying continent
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    and suddenly you have an influx
    of very young capable people.
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    And clearly some of them
    are poor and uneducated,
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    some of them are doctors and whatever.
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    So, I think there is a lot of value
    these people can bring.
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    You will always have
    xenophobia in these situations.
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    Out of interest, I was looking
    at what was the reaction of people
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    when the Vietnamese refugees
    in the 1970s came into the US
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    and what happened
    when the Jewish population
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    after the 2nd World War,
    they went into Cyprus of all places
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    at that time for holding camps similar
    to the ones you have in Ιdomeni now,
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    before they went
    to the newly formed Israel,
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    and when you a look at some
    of the headlines of the papers
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    they're the same as they are now,
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    people like Donald Trump
    saying, "I am going to build a wall,"
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    it’s exactly that reaction.
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    So, I think to your point, I think
    some of these reactions are very natural,
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    some of them you could even argue
    that some of them are justified,
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    but yeah, in the middle to long-term,
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    I think I am very optimistic
    about what is happening now.
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    EP: OK. One last question.
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    What would you respond to any criticism
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    that these kinds of initiatives like
    you took through your company,
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    some say that it is sheer marketing.
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    What would you respond to such a response?
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    (Laughter)
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    AP: I wish it wasn’t [UNCLEAR]
    I think there are two angles here.
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    The first one is that I think you can see
    the culture of a company just from...
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    in this day and age you cannot lie
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    about what your culture is as a company,
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    whether it’s TOMS shoes giving things out
    as you purchase their products,
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    whether it’s a coffee
    or a bread manufacturing in Kenya.
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    I think you can see through
    both the entrepreneurs
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    and the culture of the overall company.
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    So, I think on this one people
    can judge for themselves, I think.
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    At the same time though,
    in a very cynical way,
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    if efforts like this one are driven by
    marketing dynamics for different companies
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    and that means that companies do much more
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    because they believe
    that it helps their image
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    it’s something that unless they do
    the competition will get in front of them
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    and all that then, by all means.
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    I mean, it ends up in a broader good.
  • 18:12 - 18:15
    So, on this one that is
    what I would answer.
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    EP: Thank you very much.
    (Greek) Thank you Alex.
  • 18:17 - 18:18
    AP: Thank you.
  • 18:18 - 18:21
    (Applause)
Title:
Restart life after a tragedy; any help counts | Melissa Fleming & Alexis Pantazis | TEDxThessaloniki
Description:

In her TEDxThessaloniki talk in 2015, UNHCR’s spokesperson Melissa Fleming shared the amazing story of a young Syrian refugee, Doaa. Back then, no one could have imagined the extent of the refugee crisis that would find Europe, and indeed the world, unprepared. In this year’s event, Melissa sent a video giving us an update on Doaa’s tragic, yet hopeful, story. The next chapter of her life finds Doaa in Sweden with a scholarship towards her education.
Critical to that was the help of Alexis Pantazis, one of last year’s speakers, that was moved by Doaa’s story and awarded her the scholarship through his company. Alexis took the stage and in a Q&A session with TEDxThessaloniki curator, Elena Papadopoulou, explained the difficulties his company faced in order to award the scholarship and encourage every individual to contribute where nations and institutions, like the EU, fail to do so – a small contribution that can have a very big impact.

Melissa Fleming is a leading communications professional, working to draw attention, drive empathy and generate support for the world’s 50 million refugees and displaced people. As Head of Communications and Chief Spokesperson at the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), she leads media teams to bring news and stories of people on the run to the public consciousness.

She is a champion for public communication through social media, including on her own Twitter account. She also leads an innovative multi-media production team producing refugee stories of survival and resilience. She believes in the power of public speaking to move audiences. Her TED talk, “Let’s help refugees thrive, not just survive,” has been viewed over 700,000 times around the world and has been subtitled in 20 languages. She is also co-organizer of TEDxPlaceDesNations in Geneva. She writes a regular column for the Guardian and is a contributor to UNHCR’s blog.

Alexis is the Co-Founder and Executive Director of Hellas Direct, a new insurance company founded in 2011 with the view of changing the way Greek car insurance companies service their clients. The company specialises in car insurance, selling policies directly via the web and over the phone. Prior to Hellas Direct, Alexis was an Executive Director at Goldman Sachs where he led principal investing and new strategic initiatives for the firm in the European investment management field. A former strategy consultant with the Boston Consulting Group, Alexis also worked for Miramax Films in New York and the Competition Directorate General of the European Commission in Brussels. Over the past few years, Alexis has privately invested in a number of different ventures, focusing on angel financing and the strategic use of technology in the financial services space. He has held advisory roles and participated at Board level across a number of different start-up companies.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
18:25

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