Restart life after a tragedy; any help counts | Melissa Fleming & Alexis Pantazis | TEDxThessaloniki
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0:15 - 0:18(Greek) Elena Papadopoulou: Last year,
when we asked Melissa Fleming -
0:18 - 0:22to give a talk at TEDxThessaloniki 2015,
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0:22 - 0:26we could not possibly
have imagined the role -
0:26 - 0:30the refugee crisis
would be playing in our lives, -
0:30 - 0:35not only in Greece and Europe
but in the whole world. -
0:36 - 0:40Melissa’s talk, given
at last year’s TEDxThessaloniki event, -
0:40 - 0:46has been viewed over 1 million,
almost 1.5 million times on TED channel. -
0:46 - 0:53Her talk helped most of us
see in the face of Doaa -
0:53 - 0:58the faces of all the people
forced to flee their countries -
0:58 - 1:03in the hope of being able
to lead an “ordinary life,” -
1:03 - 1:08far away from the permanent threat of war.
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1:09 - 1:12Doaa was a lucky and heroic young woman.
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1:12 - 1:18She was among the few people
who survived a tragic shipwreck -
1:18 - 1:20that happened
in the Mediterranean Sea in 2014. -
1:22 - 1:27Fortunately, she managed
to survive and save a baby, -
1:27 - 1:30despite not knowing how to swim.
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1:30 - 1:33Melissa Fleming wished
to be here in person -
1:33 - 1:36and share with us the rest of the story.
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1:36 - 1:41That is to say: “What happened to Doaa?
Where is she today? What is she doing?” -
1:41 - 1:46Due to her work with the United Nations,
Melissa couldn’t join us today. -
1:46 - 1:51However, she has sent us a short video
that I would like us to watch. -
1:53 - 1:57(Video) Melissa Fleming: Hello friends
at TEDxThessaloniki, hello Elena. -
1:57 - 2:00Really great to be with you again
though only virtually. -
2:00 - 2:02I wish I was there in person.
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2:02 - 2:05Elena asked me to let you know
what has happened -
2:05 - 2:12since I was on stage this time last year
delivering a talk about Doaa Al Zamal, -
2:12 - 2:15the heroic Syrian refugee young woman
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2:15 - 2:22who survived one of the worst shipwrecks
on the Mediterranean sea, 500 people died -
2:22 - 2:28and she managed to save a baby girl
after 4 days on the water -
2:28 - 2:30and watching the love of her life,
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2:30 - 2:34her fiancé Bassam,
die in front of her eyes. -
2:34 - 2:41This was a tragic yet very hopeful story,
a story that has inspired so many people. -
2:41 - 2:44I am writing a book about her story.
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2:44 - 2:48And one of the fellow speakers
at the conference last year, -
2:48 - 2:53Alexis Pantazis,
of the company Hellas Direct, -
2:53 - 2:55was also inspired by Doaa’s speech
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2:55 - 3:00and he and his company awarded her
a very generous scholarship, -
3:00 - 3:02which really helped her.
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3:02 - 3:05She‘s now been resettled
with her family to Sweden -
3:05 - 3:07and she is putting it
towards her education. -
3:07 - 3:10It’s really helping her
to start her new life. -
3:10 - 3:15I think it inspired his company
and also his clients as well -
3:15 - 3:19not just to hear about the usual story
-
3:19 - 3:23of large numbers of Syrian refugees,
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3:23 - 3:26other refugees arriving
on the shores of Greece. -
3:26 - 3:29No other country
has received so many refugees -
3:29 - 3:33but a single story,
a single story that inspired him -
3:33 - 3:38and inspired his fellow....
I admit, all of his company. -
3:38 - 3:40I went to visit them in Athens,
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3:40 - 3:43a wonderful group of people
who just said, "How can we help?" -
3:43 - 3:47I really think this company
by doing so is showing -
3:47 - 3:51that if you help one individual,
you are telling a larger story, -
3:51 - 3:56you are helping that person a lot but
it also has an echo and a ripple effect. -
3:56 - 4:03It shows that one person,
one company can do and influence a lot. -
4:03 - 4:07Private sector is doing a lot
to help in the refugee crisis. -
4:07 - 4:13This is a crisis
that is the worst since WWII. -
4:13 - 4:16We have 60 million people
forcibly displaced. -
4:16 - 4:20And no time since WWII have we had
so many people on the run. -
4:20 - 4:24Governments can’t do it alone
and as you see -
4:24 - 4:30-- you are sitting in Thessaloniki,
very close to the border of the FYROM -- -
4:30 - 4:33the countries are reacting in ways now
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4:33 - 4:38which is shutting people off
rather than embracing them. -
4:38 - 4:42We are seeing, hearing wonderful stories
of individual actions -
4:42 - 4:47by local Greek citizens,
I can’t even tell - I read one a day. -
4:47 - 4:48It really warms my heart.
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4:48 - 4:54A baker in Ιdomeni who took in
families in his home -
4:54 - 4:59because he couldn’t stand
to see them suffering in the cold. -
4:59 - 5:01One after the other these kind of stories,
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5:01 - 5:06private companies coming in
to provide food, shelter. -
5:06 - 5:10Local NGOs filling in gaps of governments.
-
5:10 - 5:17I think we are a time right now
where the compassion is losing out -
5:17 - 5:20over the fear that is taking over,
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5:20 - 5:25the fear that is being
exploited by politicians -
5:25 - 5:30who are really worried, more worried
about losing their power -
5:30 - 5:36than they are about protecting people
who are fleeing from war and persecution. -
5:36 - 5:42So all I wanted to say is thank you
for this opportunity to speak. -
5:42 - 5:45Who would have known
last year at this time -
5:45 - 5:49that Greece would become the center stage
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5:49 - 5:55for the biggest refugee crisis
that the world has seen in a long time. -
5:55 - 5:59It is really, really difficult,
-
5:59 - 6:02the humanitarian situation
right now in Greece -
6:02 - 6:07and I really thank you all
for caring and for doing your part. -
6:07 - 6:13Thanks and have
a great TEDxThessaloniki 2016. -
6:14 - 6:17(Applause)
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6:20 - 6:24(Greek) EP: Melissa really wished to be
here and share these few words with us. -
6:24 - 6:27So, I considered this video
would be a unique opportunity -
6:27 - 6:32for us to see what happens when
the lights of TEDxThessaloniki dim, -
6:32 - 6:35after all these stories have been told.
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6:35 - 6:38What do they leave us with?
What do they encourage us to do? -
6:38 - 6:39What do they inspire us to do
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6:39 - 6:46so that each one of us can contribute
to our world the way they can? -
6:49 - 6:54Following Melissa,
we asked Alexis Pantazis, -
6:54 - 6:56whom Melissa mentioned in the video,
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6:56 - 6:59to give a talk at last year’s
TEDxThessaloniki. -
6:59 - 7:02We approached him
in his capacity of an entrepreneur, -
7:02 - 7:04namely, the founder of Hellas Direct.
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7:04 - 7:08So when he came to speak and we started
talking about his presentation, -
7:08 - 7:13we expected that he would
give a talk about entrepreneurship. -
7:13 - 7:17However, Alexis surprised us,
thankfully in a pleasant way, -
7:17 - 7:19and he focused on a different topic,
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7:19 - 7:22which proved to be of great importance
in entrepreneurship -
7:22 - 7:25and it has to do with one’s “mindset.”
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7:25 - 7:29Alexis focused on the mentality
of refugees and immigrants, -
7:29 - 7:31on creating opportunities
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7:31 - 7:34and, why not, to make them
work to their benefit. -
7:34 - 7:39So, last year, at TEDxThessaloniki,
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7:39 - 7:42Alexis met Melissa and the other speakers
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7:42 - 7:47and he decided to do something
to help or to contribute, -
7:47 - 7:50in his own way and through his company.
-
7:50 - 7:53Alexis Pantazis is here with us today
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7:53 - 7:56and I would like to invite him up on stage
to discuss a few things -
7:56 - 8:00and share with you the way
they went on to work together -
8:00 - 8:04or, if you prefer, what his contribution
to Doaa’s story has been. -
8:04 - 8:07Alexis.
(Applause) -
8:07 - 8:11Welcome! I am glad
that you are here with us. -
8:11 - 8:14Most of us really wonder what is going on.
-
8:14 - 8:19We come in to this hall
- there are 700 of us in this building - -
8:19 - 8:22we get to know each other,
listen to ideas, feel inspired, -
8:22 - 8:25but what happens
when we leave this venue? -
8:25 - 8:27(English) So would you like
to explain us briefly -
8:27 - 8:30what happened when you met with Melissa
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8:30 - 8:36and how this whole story
became related to Hellas Direct? -
8:36 - 8:39Alexis Pantazis: Last year, the last
but one speaker was myself -
8:39 - 8:42and the last one was Melissa.
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8:42 - 8:46And as I was finishing my talk
and I started walking towards the back, -
8:46 - 8:49Melissa who I spent
quite a bit of time with -
8:49 - 8:54- clearly because we were the only ones
stuck there - we talked a lot about Doaa -
8:54 - 9:00and as she started coming on to the stage
I could actually observe from the side -
9:00 - 9:02- I didn’t manage to get to my seat -
-
9:02 - 9:06the facial expressions
of all the people in the audience. -
9:06 - 9:09And I don’t know how many of you guys
were here last year -
9:09 - 9:15but Melissa gave a very touching,
emotional speech about the story of Doaa. -
9:15 - 9:17And what I‘ve realized
-
9:17 - 9:20in the one day more or less
that we spent together with Melissa -
9:20 - 9:25is that the story of Doaa
represents a number of stories. -
9:25 - 9:29I would say thousands or even
millions now of stories of refugees. -
9:29 - 9:31And one of the things that I noticed
-
9:31 - 9:34as I was coming through
the curtain on the main room -
9:34 - 9:37was that people were actually crying.
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9:37 - 9:41And what I've realized is
that if we give an example -
9:41 - 9:46which is a human person of a big tragedy
like the one we are going through now -
9:46 - 9:52to normal people like myself, yourselves,
everybody who was in that room, -
9:52 - 9:55then people can relate to it
and they can relate to it more. -
9:55 - 9:57So, we spoke with Melissa
at the dinner afterwards -
9:57 - 9:59and it was a pretty emotional moment
-
9:59 - 10:02because she gave
a really amazing presentation -
10:02 - 10:04and I ask her,
“So what is going on with Doaa?” -
10:04 - 10:09because that was last year,
she survived 4 days into the sea, -
10:09 - 10:13she saved one life,
she was granted the Award of bravery, -
10:13 - 10:16if I remember well,
from the Athens Academy. -
10:16 - 10:19And Melissa said that, well, unfortunately
-
10:19 - 10:22there was a lot of hype
when everything happened, -
10:22 - 10:24there was a lot of headlines in the press.
-
10:24 - 10:27There was a lot of talk,
they invited her to different events -
10:27 - 10:33and then slowly but steadily
as these things go, nobody really cared. -
10:33 - 10:35Melissa and her team did an amazing job
-
10:35 - 10:38in trying to get her
to get some legal papers -
10:38 - 10:41in order to go to Sweden
which was her end goal -
10:41 - 10:44but Doaa was going through
a bit of a rough patch. -
10:44 - 10:46She wasn’ t really feeling
positive about the future, -
10:46 - 10:48the whole experience had sunk in.
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10:48 - 10:54She couldn’t see opportunity for her
to be able to go abroad -
10:54 - 10:56and continue what she set out to do
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10:56 - 11:00with her fiancé at the time
who unfortunately died in the wreck, -
11:00 - 11:01and that was to study.
-
11:01 - 11:03She wanted to study to be a lawyer
-
11:03 - 11:07in order to fight injustice
in the whole world. -
11:07 - 11:09So, speaking with Melissa
I was trying to figure out, -
11:09 - 11:16“Is there a way that I as an individual or
we as a company, we could help in this?” -
11:16 - 11:20And we feel quite strongly about
giving scholarships and we've done so -
11:20 - 11:23since the day that Emilios, my business
partner and I founded the company. -
11:23 - 11:26But, "Is it possible that
we could get involved in this?" -
11:26 - 11:29And Melissa was
very, very supportive in this. -
11:29 - 11:32We started talking, the whole
process took about 6 months. -
11:32 - 11:35Marilaura, who works with me, spent
a lot of time speaking with Melissa -
11:35 - 11:37on what’s the best way to do it
-
11:37 - 11:39and then you stumble
into Greek bureaucracy, -
11:39 - 11:43where in order to give money,
it’s even harder than to make money. -
11:43 - 11:44(Laughter)
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11:44 - 11:47So, we didn’t know whether
we should give the money to Melissa -
11:47 - 11:50to give the money to Doaa;
Doaa didn’t have an account. -
11:50 - 11:52So, we went through
a lot of back and forths -
11:52 - 11:54but I think for us the bottom line was
-
11:54 - 11:58that we decided that we are going
to use Doaa’s story as a symbol, -
11:58 - 12:00as a small gesture on our part
-
12:00 - 12:05to follow on from the spirit
of TEDxThessaloniki last year, -
12:05 - 12:08grant her the scholarship for the degree
that she really wanted to do. -
12:08 - 12:11As you heard from Melissa before,
Doaa is now in Sweden -
12:11 - 12:14so that’s great news for everybody
-
12:14 - 12:18and we just wanted to signal to other
companies, individuals, organizations -
12:18 - 12:21that if everybody
does their own little bit, -
12:21 - 12:22then we can really make a difference.
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12:22 - 12:27EP: So, your personal motive
or the motive of Hellas Direct -
12:27 - 12:32was basically to make a difference in any
way that you thought would be possible? -
12:32 - 12:35AP: I think for us it was
a combination of two things. -
12:35 - 12:38The first one is:
in what we do as a company, -
12:38 - 12:41we are trying to change
the way our industry -
12:41 - 12:43- which is insurance industry -
is being done. -
12:43 - 12:46So, we are trying, as we say,
to rethink the whole chain. -
12:46 - 12:48We heard a lot of good stories before
-
12:48 - 12:49whether it is from Alex Loizou
-
12:49 - 12:54to talk about the buy-in
of the whole company behind a culture. -
12:54 - 12:57So for us it is almost what we do
in all other aspects of our lives, -
12:57 - 13:00so this was just an extension on
the corporate social responsibility side. -
13:00 - 13:03Now, on that one, from the day
we started the company -
13:03 - 13:05we've given a number of scholarships.
-
13:05 - 13:07We gave two scholarships to people
-
13:07 - 13:10to go and study in London
at the City University. -
13:10 - 13:12We gave two scholarships
to kids of policemen -
13:12 - 13:15because we felt that that as a group
were not rewarded enough -
13:15 - 13:16for the contribution that they did
-
13:16 - 13:20at least I road accidents which
is what we really care about. -
13:20 - 13:23We've given a number
of research grants so the fact -
13:23 - 13:27that we managed to divert some
of these efforts onto Doaa in this case, -
13:27 - 13:30I think it sends an extra message of maybe
-
13:30 - 13:32we can think of it a bit
differently as an organization. -
13:32 - 13:35EP: Do you believe
that the appropriate attitude -
13:35 - 13:39for either companies
or for civil society actors, -
13:39 - 13:44in crisis of such magnitude
as we are going through at the moment - -
13:44 - 13:50what do you think would be the right
or more appropriate kind of mindset -
13:50 - 13:54that we would need to maybe adopt or try?
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13:54 - 13:59AP: I think as a mindset everybody
has to react in the way that they see fit -
13:59 - 14:02and everybody’s values differ,
whether it is on ethical levels -
14:02 - 14:06or on ideological levels
or financial levels or any other way. -
14:06 - 14:09I think one of the things
that we are realizing now, -
14:09 - 14:10especially in the European Union,
-
14:10 - 14:14is that we cannot expect
things to be done by the state -
14:14 - 14:16or by the European Union as a Union.
-
14:16 - 14:18And everybody has different agendas,
-
14:18 - 14:21everybody has different capabilities,
different political beliefs, -
14:21 - 14:25so individuals and companies have
a much more important role to play. -
14:25 - 14:27Unfortunately, in this part of the world
-
14:27 - 14:29and in Cyprus where I am from
it's exactly the same, -
14:29 - 14:33we tend to rely a lot
on the role of the state, -
14:33 - 14:35that this is not my problem,
they will do it, -
14:35 - 14:38and this day and age
this does not seem to work. -
14:38 - 14:40So, I think any contribution on that
-
14:40 - 14:43is at least changing gradually
the mentality of people. -
14:44 - 14:48EP: Going back to your talk
and actually the message of your talk, -
14:48 - 14:49you basically concentrated saying
-
14:49 - 14:53that what it takes is
a different kind of mindset -
14:53 - 14:58that usually refugees
or immigrants tend to have -
14:58 - 15:01and that has a positive effect
on the economy of a country -
15:01 - 15:05and maybe in evolving
the society of a country. -
15:05 - 15:10Do you think that we are actually
going through a same kind of situation -
15:10 - 15:12either in Greece or in Europe,
-
15:12 - 15:15because basically we are
more or less under the same terms? -
15:15 - 15:18I mean, we have
a lot of immigrants and refugees -
15:18 - 15:21that are going through our countries.
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15:21 - 15:26Is this a same kind of opportunity
that we may be facing with? -
15:26 - 15:29AP: I think it’s a huge opportunity,
-
15:29 - 15:33but one thing we need to do
as Europeans and as global citizens is, -
15:33 - 15:36“How you turn what is
now a humanitarian crisis -
15:36 - 15:41into a full integration
of these people into society?” -
15:41 - 15:43And I am not talking
about a flattening of cultures, -
15:43 - 15:45religion and all that and languages.
-
15:45 - 15:48I am really talking about how
can we get these Syrian people coming in -
15:48 - 15:51and integrate them in a way
that they are productive, -
15:51 - 15:54that there is social cohesion
that actually works. -
15:54 - 15:57When you look at the demographics
of the European Union -
15:57 - 16:00and compare them to the immigrants
coming in, they are very different. -
16:00 - 16:01We are an aging, dying continent
-
16:01 - 16:05and suddenly you have an influx
of very young capable people. -
16:05 - 16:08And clearly some of them
are poor and uneducated, -
16:08 - 16:11some of them are doctors and whatever.
-
16:11 - 16:14So, I think there is a lot of value
these people can bring. -
16:14 - 16:17You will always have
xenophobia in these situations. -
16:19 - 16:23Out of interest, I was looking
at what was the reaction of people -
16:23 - 16:28when the Vietnamese refugees
in the 1970s came into the US -
16:28 - 16:31and what happened
when the Jewish population -
16:31 - 16:34after the 2nd World War,
they went into Cyprus of all places -
16:34 - 16:38at that time for holding camps similar
to the ones you have in Ιdomeni now, -
16:38 - 16:40before they went
to the newly formed Israel, -
16:40 - 16:43and when you a look at some
of the headlines of the papers -
16:43 - 16:45they're the same as they are now,
-
16:45 - 16:48people like Donald Trump
saying, "I am going to build a wall," -
16:48 - 16:49it’s exactly that reaction.
-
16:49 - 16:53So, I think to your point, I think
some of these reactions are very natural, -
16:53 - 16:56some of them you could even argue
that some of them are justified, -
16:56 - 16:59but yeah, in the middle to long-term,
-
16:59 - 17:03I think I am very optimistic
about what is happening now. -
17:03 - 17:05EP: OK. One last question.
-
17:05 - 17:08What would you respond to any criticism
-
17:08 - 17:13that these kinds of initiatives like
you took through your company, -
17:13 - 17:16some say that it is sheer marketing.
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17:16 - 17:19What would you respond to such a response?
-
17:19 - 17:20(Laughter)
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17:20 - 17:25AP: I wish it wasn’t [UNCLEAR]
I think there are two angles here. -
17:25 - 17:29The first one is that I think you can see
the culture of a company just from... -
17:29 - 17:31in this day and age you cannot lie
-
17:31 - 17:33about what your culture is as a company,
-
17:33 - 17:37whether it’s TOMS shoes giving things out
as you purchase their products, -
17:37 - 17:44whether it’s a coffee
or a bread manufacturing in Kenya. -
17:44 - 17:46I think you can see through
both the entrepreneurs -
17:46 - 17:48and the culture of the overall company.
-
17:48 - 17:52So, I think on this one people
can judge for themselves, I think. -
17:52 - 17:54At the same time though,
in a very cynical way, -
17:54 - 18:01if efforts like this one are driven by
marketing dynamics for different companies -
18:01 - 18:03and that means that companies do much more
-
18:03 - 18:06because they believe
that it helps their image -
18:06 - 18:09it’s something that unless they do
the competition will get in front of them -
18:09 - 18:10and all that then, by all means.
-
18:10 - 18:12I mean, it ends up in a broader good.
-
18:12 - 18:15So, on this one that is
what I would answer. -
18:15 - 18:17EP: Thank you very much.
(Greek) Thank you Alex. -
18:17 - 18:18AP: Thank you.
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18:18 - 18:21(Applause)
- Title:
- Restart life after a tragedy; any help counts | Melissa Fleming & Alexis Pantazis | TEDxThessaloniki
- Description:
-
In her TEDxThessaloniki talk in 2015, UNHCR’s spokesperson Melissa Fleming shared the amazing story of a young Syrian refugee, Doaa. Back then, no one could have imagined the extent of the refugee crisis that would find Europe, and indeed the world, unprepared. In this year’s event, Melissa sent a video giving us an update on Doaa’s tragic, yet hopeful, story. The next chapter of her life finds Doaa in Sweden with a scholarship towards her education.
Critical to that was the help of Alexis Pantazis, one of last year’s speakers, that was moved by Doaa’s story and awarded her the scholarship through his company. Alexis took the stage and in a Q&A session with TEDxThessaloniki curator, Elena Papadopoulou, explained the difficulties his company faced in order to award the scholarship and encourage every individual to contribute where nations and institutions, like the EU, fail to do so – a small contribution that can have a very big impact.Melissa Fleming is a leading communications professional, working to draw attention, drive empathy and generate support for the world’s 50 million refugees and displaced people. As Head of Communications and Chief Spokesperson at the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), she leads media teams to bring news and stories of people on the run to the public consciousness.
She is a champion for public communication through social media, including on her own Twitter account. She also leads an innovative multi-media production team producing refugee stories of survival and resilience. She believes in the power of public speaking to move audiences. Her TED talk, “Let’s help refugees thrive, not just survive,” has been viewed over 700,000 times around the world and has been subtitled in 20 languages. She is also co-organizer of TEDxPlaceDesNations in Geneva. She writes a regular column for the Guardian and is a contributor to UNHCR’s blog.
Alexis is the Co-Founder and Executive Director of Hellas Direct, a new insurance company founded in 2011 with the view of changing the way Greek car insurance companies service their clients. The company specialises in car insurance, selling policies directly via the web and over the phone. Prior to Hellas Direct, Alexis was an Executive Director at Goldman Sachs where he led principal investing and new strategic initiatives for the firm in the European investment management field. A former strategy consultant with the Boston Consulting Group, Alexis also worked for Miramax Films in New York and the Competition Directorate General of the European Commission in Brussels. Over the past few years, Alexis has privately invested in a number of different ventures, focusing on angel financing and the strategic use of technology in the financial services space. He has held advisory roles and participated at Board level across a number of different start-up companies.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 18:25