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Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.66,0:00:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Greek) Elena Papadopoulou: Last year,\Nwhen we asked Melissa Fleming
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.99,0:00:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give a talk at TEDxThessaloniki 2015,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.48,0:00:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could not possibly\Nhave imagined the role
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.01,0:00:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the refugee crisis\Nwould be playing in our lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.10,0:00:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in Greece and Europe\Nbut in the whole world.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.58,0:00:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Melissa’s talk, given \Nat last year’s TEDxThessaloniki event,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.41,0:00:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been viewed over 1 million,\Nalmost 1.5 million times on TED channel.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.48,0:00:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her talk helped most of us\Nsee in the face of Doaa
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.100,0:00:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the faces of all the people\Nforced to flee their countries
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.92,0:01:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the hope of being able\Nto lead an “ordinary life,”
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.46,0:01:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far away from the permanent threat of war.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.63,0:01:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doaa was a lucky and heroic young woman.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.80,0:01:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was among the few people\Nwho survived a tragic shipwreck
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.52,0:01:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happened\Nin the Mediterranean Sea in 2014.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.89,0:01:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fortunately, she managed\Nto survive and save a baby,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.38,0:01:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite not knowing how to swim.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.48,0:01:33.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Melissa Fleming wished\Nto be here in person
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.11,0:01:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and share with us the rest of the story.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.03,0:01:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is to say: “What happened to Doaa?\NWhere is she today? What is she doing?”
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.40,0:01:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Due to her work with the United Nations,\NMelissa couldn’t join us today.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.14,0:01:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, she has sent us a short video\Nthat I would like us to watch.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.38,0:01:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Video) Melissa Fleming: Hello friends\Nat TEDxThessaloniki, hello Elena.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.38,0:02:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really great to be with you again\Nthough only virtually.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.42,0:02:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish I was there in person.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.36,0:02:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Elena asked me to let you know\Nwhat has happened
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.48,0:02:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I was on stage this time last year\Ndelivering a talk about Doaa Al Zamal,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.78,0:02:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the heroic Syrian refugee young woman
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.30,0:02:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who survived one of the worst shipwrecks\Non the Mediterranean sea, 500 people died
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.94,0:02:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she managed to save a baby girl\Nafter 4 days on the water
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.81,0:02:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and watching the love of her life,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.06,0:02:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her fiancé Bassam,\Ndie in front of her eyes.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.05,0:02:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a tragic yet very hopeful story,\Na story that has inspired so many people.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.76,0:02:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am writing a book about her story.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.51,0:02:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the fellow speakers\Nat the conference last year,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.84,0:02:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis Pantazis,\Nof the company Hellas Direct,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.98,0:02:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was also inspired by Doaa’s speech
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.95,0:03:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he and his company awarded her\Na very generous scholarship,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.31,0:03:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which really helped her.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.78,0:03:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She‘s now been resettled\Nwith her family to Sweden
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.12,0:03:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she is putting it\Ntowards her education.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.22,0:03:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s really helping her\Nto start her new life.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.97,0:03:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it inspired his company\Nand also his clients as well
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.62,0:03:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just to hear about the usual story
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.56,0:03:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of large numbers of Syrian refugees,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.10,0:03:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other refugees arriving\Non the shores of Greece.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.94,0:03:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No other country\Nhas received so many refugees
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.58,0:03:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a single story, \Na single story that inspired him
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.48,0:03:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and inspired his fellow....\NI admit, all of his company.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.35,0:03:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to visit them in Athens,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.41,0:03:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wonderful group of people\Nwho just said, "How can we help?"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.45,0:03:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really think this company\Nby doing so is showing
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.78,0:03:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you help one individual,\Nyou are telling a larger story,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.04,0:03:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are helping that person a lot but\Nit also has an echo and a ripple effect.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.93,0:04:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It shows that one person,\None company can do and influence a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.30,0:04:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Private sector is doing a lot\Nto help in the refugee crisis.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.37,0:04:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a crisis\Nthat is the worst since WWII.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.62,0:04:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have 60 million people\Nforcibly displaced.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.24,0:04:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And no time since WWII have we had\Nso many people on the run.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.21,0:04:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Governments can’t do it alone\Nand as you see
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.50,0:04:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- you are sitting in Thessaloniki,\Nvery close to the border of the FYROM --
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.71,0:04:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the countries are reacting in ways now
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.64,0:04:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is shutting people off\Nrather than embracing them.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.72,0:04:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are seeing, hearing wonderful stories\Nof individual actions
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.28,0:04:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by local Greek citizens,\NI can’t even tell - I read one a day.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.65,0:04:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really warms my heart.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.44,0:04:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A baker in Ιdomeni who took in\Nfamilies in his home
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.36,0:04:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he couldn’t stand\Nto see them suffering in the cold.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.81,0:05:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One after the other these kind of stories,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.83,0:05:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,private companies coming in\Nto provide food, shelter.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.77,0:05:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Local NGOs filling in gaps of governments.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.61,0:05:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we are a time right now\Nwhere the compassion is losing out
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.76,0:05:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the fear that is taking over,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.44,0:05:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fear that is being\Nexploited by politicians
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.95,0:05:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are really worried, more worried\Nabout losing their power
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.02,0:05:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than they are about protecting people\Nwho are fleeing from war and persecution.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.58,0:05:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all I wanted to say is thank you\Nfor this opportunity to speak.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.61,0:05:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who would have known\Nlast year at this time
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.40,0:05:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Greece would become the center stage
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.25,0:05:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the biggest refugee crisis\Nthat the world has seen in a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.23,0:05:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is really, really difficult,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.94,0:06:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the humanitarian situation\Nright now in Greece
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.97,0:06:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really thank you all\Nfor caring and for doing your part.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.90,0:06:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks and have\Na great TEDxThessaloniki 2016.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.80,0:06:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.76,0:06:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Greek) EP: Melissa really wished to be\Nhere and share these few words with us.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.71,0:06:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I considered this video\Nwould be a unique opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.24,0:06:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for us to see what happens when\Nthe lights of TEDxThessaloniki dim,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.02,0:06:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after all these stories have been told.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.93,0:06:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do they leave us with?\NWhat do they encourage us to do?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.80,0:06:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do they inspire us to do
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.49,0:06:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that each one of us can contribute\Nto our world the way they can?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.91,0:06:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Following Melissa,\Nwe asked Alexis Pantazis,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.93,0:06:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom Melissa mentioned in the video,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.71,0:06:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give a talk at last year’s\NTEDxThessaloniki.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.70,0:07:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We approached him\Nin his capacity of an entrepreneur,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.78,0:07:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,namely, the founder of Hellas Direct.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.55,0:07:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when he came to speak and we started\Ntalking about his presentation,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.08,0:07:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we expected that he would\Ngive a talk about entrepreneurship.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.52,0:07:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, Alexis surprised us,\Nthankfully in a pleasant way,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.04,0:07:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he focused on a different topic,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.79,0:07:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which proved to be of great importance\Nin entrepreneurship
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.98,0:07:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has to do with one’s “mindset.”
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.58,0:07:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis focused on the mentality\Nof refugees and immigrants,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.42,0:07:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on creating opportunities
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.01,0:07:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, why not, to make them\Nwork to their benefit.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.48,0:07:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, last year, at TEDxThessaloniki,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.84,0:07:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis met Melissa and the other speakers
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.38,0:07:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he decided to do something\Nto help or to contribute,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.61,0:07:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in his own way and through his company.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.78,0:07:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis Pantazis is here with us today
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.54,0:07:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would like to invite him up on stage\Nto discuss a few things
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.11,0:07:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and share with you the way\Nthey went on to work together
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.68,0:08:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, if you prefer, what his contribution\Nto Doaa’s story has been.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.02,0:08:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis.\N(Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.42,0:08:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome! I am glad\Nthat you are here with us.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.18,0:08:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of us really wonder what is going on.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.88,0:08:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We come in to this hall\N- there are 700 of us in this building -
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.51,0:08:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we get to know each other,\Nlisten to ideas, feel inspired,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.54,0:08:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what happens\Nwhen we leave this venue?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.73,0:08:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(English) So would you like\Nto explain us briefly
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.11,0:08:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened when you met with Melissa
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.61,0:08:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how this whole story\Nbecame related to Hellas Direct?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.07,0:08:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis Pantazis: Last year, the last\Nbut one speaker was myself
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.47,0:08:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the last one was Melissa.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.53,0:08:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I was finishing my talk\Nand I started walking towards the back,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.84,0:08:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Melissa who I spent\Nquite a bit of time with
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.68,0:08:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- clearly because we were the only ones\Nstuck there - we talked a lot about Doaa
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.92,0:08:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as she started coming on to the stage\NI could actually observe from the side
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.90,0:09:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I didn’t manage to get to my seat -
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.11,0:09:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the facial expressions\Nof all the people in the audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.18,0:09:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don’t know how many of you guys\Nwere here last year
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.84,0:09:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Melissa gave a very touching,\Nemotional speech about the story of Doaa.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.92,0:09:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I‘ve realized
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.54,0:09:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the one day more or less\Nthat we spent together with Melissa
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.78,0:09:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the story of Doaa\Nrepresents a number of stories.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.86,0:09:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say thousands or even\Nmillions now of stories of refugees.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.21,0:09:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the things that I noticed
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.03,0:09:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I was coming through\Nthe curtain on the main room
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.38,0:09:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that people were actually crying.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.47,0:09:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I've realized is\Nthat if we give an example
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.94,0:09:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a human person of a big tragedy\Nlike the one we are going through now
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.36,0:09:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to normal people like myself, yourselves,\Neverybody who was in that room,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.59,0:09:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then people can relate to it\Nand they can relate to it more.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.55,0:09:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we spoke with Melissa\Nat the dinner afterwards
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.24,0:09:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a pretty emotional moment
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.10,0:10:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she gave\Na really amazing presentation
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.17,0:10:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I ask her,\N“So what is going on with Doaa?”
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.40,0:10:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that was last year, \Nshe survived 4 days into the sea,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.50,0:10:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she saved one life,\Nshe was granted the Award of bravery,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.14,0:10:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I remember well,\Nfrom the Athens Academy.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.30,0:10:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Melissa said that, well, unfortunately
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.09,0:10:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a lot of hype\Nwhen everything happened,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.61,0:10:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a lot of headlines in the press.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.86,0:10:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a lot of talk,\Nthey invited her to different events
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.94,0:10:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then slowly but steadily\Nas these things go, nobody really cared.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.79,0:10:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Melissa and her team did an amazing job
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.92,0:10:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in trying to get her\Nto get some legal papers
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.84,0:10:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to go to Sweden\Nwhich was her end goal
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.25,0:10:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Doaa was going through\Na bit of a rough patch.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.74,0:10:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She wasn’ t really feeling\Npositive about the future,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.38,0:10:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole experience had sunk in.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.28,0:10:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She couldn’t see opportunity for her\Nto be able to go abroad
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.64,0:10:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and continue what she set out to do
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.83,0:10:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with her fiancé at the time\Nwho unfortunately died in the wreck,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.68,0:11:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was to study.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.18,0:11:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She wanted to study to be a lawyer
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.48,0:11:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to fight injustice\Nin the whole world.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.94,0:11:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, speaking with Melissa\NI was trying to figure out,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.45,0:11:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Is there a way that I as an individual or\Nwe as a company, we could help in this?”
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.68,0:11:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we feel quite strongly about\Ngiving scholarships and we've done so
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.64,0:11:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the day that Emilios, my business\Npartner and I founded the company.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.12,0:11:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, "Is it possible that\Nwe could get involved in this?"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.37,0:11:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Melissa was\Nvery, very supportive in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.57,0:11:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started talking, the whole\Nprocess took about 6 months.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.90,0:11:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marilaura, who works with me, spent\Na lot of time speaking with Melissa
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.24,0:11:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on what’s the best way to do it
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.74,0:11:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you stumble\Ninto Greek bureaucracy,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.21,0:11:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where in order to give money,\Nit’s even harder than to make money.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.12,0:11:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.24,0:11:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we didn’t know whether\Nwe should give the money to Melissa
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.18,0:11:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give the money to Doaa;\NDoaa didn’t have an account.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.82,0:11:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we went through\Na lot of back and forths
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.92,0:11:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think for us the bottom line was
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.05,0:11:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we decided that we are going\Nto use Doaa’s story as a symbol,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.59,0:12:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a small gesture on our part
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.30,0:12:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to follow on from the spirit\Nof TEDxThessaloniki last year,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.57,0:12:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grant her the scholarship for the degree\Nthat she really wanted to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.24,0:12:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you heard from Melissa before,\NDoaa is now in Sweden
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.16,0:12:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that’s great news for everybody
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.84,0:12:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we just wanted to signal to other\Ncompanies, individuals, organizations
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.89,0:12:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if everybody\Ndoes their own little bit,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.50,0:12:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we can really make a difference.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.34,0:12:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EP: So, your personal motive\Nor the motive of Hellas Direct
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.54,0:12:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was basically to make a difference in any\Nway that you thought would be possible?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.14,0:12:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AP: I think for us it was\Na combination of two things.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.02,0:12:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one is: \Nin what we do as a company,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.04,0:12:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are trying to change\Nthe way our industry
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.04,0:12:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- which is insurance industry -\Nis being done.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.21,0:12:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we are trying, as we say,\Nto rethink the whole chain.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.12,0:12:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We heard a lot of good stories before
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.91,0:12:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it is from Alex Loizou
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.41,0:12:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk about the buy-in\Nof the whole company behind a culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.55,0:12:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for us it is almost what we do\Nin all other aspects of our lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.83,0:13:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this was just an extension on\Nthe corporate social responsibility side.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.42,0:13:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, on that one, from the day\Nwe started the company
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.09,0:13:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've given a number of scholarships.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.88,0:13:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We gave two scholarships to people
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.52,0:13:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go and study in London\Nat the City University.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.60,0:13:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We gave two scholarships\Nto kids of policemen
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.82,0:13:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we felt that that as a group\Nwere not rewarded enough
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.71,0:13:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the contribution that they did
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.41,0:13:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least I road accidents which\Nis what we really care about.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.56,0:13:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've given a number\Nof research grants so the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.60,0:13:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we managed to divert some\Nof these efforts onto Doaa in this case,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.21,0:13:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it sends an extra message of maybe
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.60,0:13:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can think of it a bit \Ndifferently as an organization.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.39,0:13:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EP: Do you believe\Nthat the appropriate attitude
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.36,0:13:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for either companies\Nor for civil society actors,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.37,0:13:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in crisis of such magnitude \Nas we are going through at the moment -
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.15,0:13:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you think would be the right\Nor more appropriate kind of mindset
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.92,0:13:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we would need to maybe adopt or try?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.15,0:13:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AP: I think as a mindset everybody\Nhas to react in the way that they see fit
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.74,0:14:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everybody’s values differ,\Nwhether it is on ethical levels
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.35,0:14:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or on ideological levels\Nor financial levels or any other way.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.93,0:14:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one of the things\Nthat we are realizing now,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.84,0:14:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially in the European Union,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.45,0:14:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that we cannot expect\Nthings to be done by the state
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.65,0:14:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or by the European Union as a Union.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.95,0:14:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everybody has different agendas,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.67,0:14:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody has different capabilities,\Ndifferent political beliefs,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.81,0:14:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so individuals and companies have\Na much more important role to play.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.78,0:14:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, in this part of the world
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.72,0:14:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in Cyprus where I am from\Nit's exactly the same,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.17,0:14:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we tend to rely a lot\Non the role of the state,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.54,0:14:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is not my problem,\Nthey will do it,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.25,0:14:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this day and age\Nthis does not seem to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.85,0:14:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think any contribution on that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.73,0:14:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is at least changing gradually\Nthe mentality of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.68,0:14:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EP: Going back to your talk\Nand actually the message of your talk,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.51,0:14:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you basically concentrated saying
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.38,0:14:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what it takes is\Na different kind of mindset
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.26,0:14:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that usually refugees\Nor immigrants tend to have
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.71,0:15:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that has a positive effect\Non the economy of a country
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.98,0:15:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe in evolving\Nthe society of a country.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.32,0:15:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think that we are actually\Ngoing through a same kind of situation
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.34,0:15:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either in Greece or in Europe,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.98,0:15:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because basically we are\Nmore or less under the same terms?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.87,0:15:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we have\Na lot of immigrants and refugees
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.88,0:15:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are going through our countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.15,0:15:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this a same kind of opportunity\Nthat we may be facing with?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.32,0:15:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AP: I think it’s a huge opportunity,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.63,0:15:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one thing we need to do\Nas Europeans and as global citizens is,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.21,0:15:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“How you turn what is\Nnow a humanitarian crisis
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.43,0:15:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a full integration \Nof these people into society?”
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.84,0:15:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am not talking\Nabout a flattening of cultures,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.31,0:15:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religion and all that and languages.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.10,0:15:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am really talking about how\Ncan we get these Syrian people coming in
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.43,0:15:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and integrate them in a way\Nthat they are productive,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.17,0:15:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is social cohesion\Nthat actually works.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.92,0:15:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you look at the demographics\Nof the European Union
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.52,0:15:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and compare them to the immigrants\Ncoming in, they are very different.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.81,0:16:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are an aging, dying continent
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.38,0:16:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and suddenly you have an influx\Nof very young capable people.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.32,0:16:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And clearly some of them\Nare poor and uneducated,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.36,0:16:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of them are doctors and whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.57,0:16:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think there is a lot of value\Nthese people can bring.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.11,0:16:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will always have\Nxenophobia in these situations.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.84,0:16:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Out of interest, I was looking\Nat what was the reaction of people
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.58,0:16:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the Vietnamese refugees\Nin the 1970s came into the US
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.53,0:16:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what happened\Nwhen the Jewish population
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.58,0:16:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the 2nd World War,\Nthey went into Cyprus of all places
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.22,0:16:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at that time for holding camps similar\Nto the ones you have in Ιdomeni now,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.28,0:16:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before they went\Nto the newly formed Israel,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.43,0:16:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when you a look at some\Nof the headlines of the papers
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.16,0:16:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're the same as they are now,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.94,0:16:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people like Donald Trump\Nsaying, "I am going to build a wall,"
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.97,0:16:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s exactly that reaction.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.27,0:16:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think to your point, I think\Nsome of these reactions are very natural,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.89,0:16:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of them you could even argue\Nthat some of them are justified,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.44,0:16:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but yeah, in the middle to long-term,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.34,0:17:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I am very optimistic\Nabout what is happening now.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.81,0:17:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EP: OK. One last question.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.96,0:17:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would you respond to any criticism
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.74,0:17:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these kinds of initiatives like\Nyou took through your company,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.80,0:17:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some say that it is sheer marketing.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.22,0:17:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would you respond to such a response?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.23,0:17:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.48,0:17:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AP: I wish it wasn’t [UNCLEAR]\NI think there are two angles here.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.78,0:17:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one is that I think you can see\Nthe culture of a company just from...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.95,0:17:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this day and age you cannot lie
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.20,0:17:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what your culture is as a company,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.17,0:17:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it’s TOMS shoes giving things out\Nas you purchase their products,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.14,0:17:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it’s a coffee\Nor a bread manufacturing in Kenya.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.67,0:17:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you can see through\Nboth the entrepreneurs
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.34,0:17:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the culture of the overall company.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.36,0:17:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think on this one people\Ncan judge for themselves, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.50,0:17:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time though,\Nin a very cynical way,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.11,0:18:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if efforts like this one are driven by\Nmarketing dynamics for different companies
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.78,0:18:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that means that companies do much more
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.40,0:18:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they believe\Nthat it helps their image
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.57,0:18:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s something that unless they do\Nthe competition will get in front of them
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.65,0:18:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all that then, by all means.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.18,0:18:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it ends up in a broader good.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.23,0:18:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, on this one that is\Nwhat I would answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.89,0:18:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EP: Thank you very much.\N(Greek) Thank you Alex.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.21,0:18:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AP: Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.32,0:18:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)