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A provocative way to finance the fight against climate change

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    Will we do whatever it takes
    to tackle climate change?
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    I come at this question
    not as a green campaigner,
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    in fact I confess to be rather
    hopeless at recycling.
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    I come at it as a professional observer
    of financial policy making
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    and someone that wonders
    how history will judge us.
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    One day,
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    this ring that belonged to my grandfather
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    will pass to my son, Charlie.
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    And I wonder what his generation,
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    and perhaps the one that follows,
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    will make of the two
    lives this ring has [worked].
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    My grandfather was a coal miner.
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    In his time,
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    burning fossil fuels for energy,
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    and for allowing economies to develop,
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    was accepted.
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    We know now that that is not the case
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    because of the greenhouse
    gases that coal produces.
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    But today,
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    I fear it's the industry in which I work
    that will be judged more harshly
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    because of its impact on the climate ...
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    more harshly than my
    grandfather's industry even.
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    I work of course in the banking industry,
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    which will be remembered
    for its crisis in 2008.
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    A crisis that diverted the attention
    and finances of governments
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    away from some really, really
    important promises.
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    Like promises made at the Copenhagen
    Climate Summit in 2009
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    to mobilize 100 billion dollars a year
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    to help developing countries
    move away from burning fossil fuels
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    and transition to using cleaner energy.
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    That promise is already in jeopardy.
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    And that's a real problem,
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    because that transition to cleaner energy
    needs to happen sooner rather than later.
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    Firstly,
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    because greenhouse gases once released
    stay in the atmosphere for decades.
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    And secondly,
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    if a developing economy builds
    its power grid around fossil fuels today,
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    it's going to be way more costly
    to change later on.
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    So for the climate,
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    history may judge that the banking
    crisis happened at just the wrong time.
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    The story need not be this gloomy, though.
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    Three years ago,
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    I argue that governments could use
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    the tools deployed
    to save the financial system
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    to meet other global challenges.
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    And these arguments
    are getting stronger --
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    not weaker --
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    with time.
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    Let's take a brief reminder
    of what those tools looked like.
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    When the financial crisis hit in 2008,
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    the central banks of the US and UK
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    began buying bonds issued
    by their own governments
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    in a policy known as quantitative easing.
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    Depending on what happens
    to those bonds when they mature,
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    this is money printing by another name ...
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    and boy did they print.
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    The US alone created four trillion
    dollars worth of its own currency.
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    This was not done in isolation.
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    In a remarkable act of cooperation,
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    the 188 countries that make up
    the International Monetary Fund,
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    the IMF,
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    agreed to issue 250 billion dollars
    worth of their own currency --
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    the Special Drawing Right --
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    to boost reserves around the world.
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    When the financial crisis moved to Europe,
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    the European Central Bank President,
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    Mario Draghi,
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    promised to do "whatever it takes" ...
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    and they did.
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    The Bank of Japan repeated those words,
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    that exact same commitment,
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    to do "whatever it takes"
    to reflate their economy.
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    In both cases,
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    "whatever it takes" meant
    trillions of dollars more
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    in money printing policies
    that continue today.
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    What this shows
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    is that when faced
    with some global challenges,
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    policy makers are able
    to act collectively,
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    with urgency
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    and run the risks of unconventional
    policies like money printing.
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    So let's go back
    to that original question.
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    Can we print money for climate finance?
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    So three years ago,
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    the idea of using money in this way
    was something of a taboo.
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    Once you break down and dismantle
    the idea that money is a finite resource,
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    governments can quickly get overwhelmed
    by demands from their people
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    to print more and more
    money for other causes.
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    Education, health care, welfare --
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    even defense.
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    And there are some truly terrible
    historical examples of money printing --
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    uncontrolled money printing --
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    leading to hyperinflation.
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    Think Weimar Republic in 1930 ...
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    Zimbabwe more recently, in 2008,
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    when the prices of basic goods
    like bread are doubling every day.
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    But all of this is moving
    the public debate forward,
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    so much so that money
    printing for the people
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    is now discussed openly
    in the financial media,
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    and even in some political manifestos.
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    But it's important the debate
    doesn't stop here,
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    with printing national currencies.
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    Because climate change
    is a shared global problem,
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    there are some really compelling reasons
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    why we should be printing
    that international currency,
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    that's issued by the IMF,
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    to fund it.
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    The Special Drawing Right,
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    or SDR,
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    is the IMF's electronic unit of account
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    that governments use to transfer
    funds amongst each other.
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    Think of it as a peer-to-peer
    payment network,
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    like Bitcoin, but for governments.
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    And it's truly global.
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    Each of the 188 members
    of the IMF hold SDR quotas
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    as part of their foreign
    exchange reserves.
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    These are national stores of wealth
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    that countries keep to protect
    themselves against currency crises.
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    And that global nature is why,
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    at the height of the
    financial crisis in 2009,
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    the IMF issued those extra
    250 billion dollars --
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    because it served as
    a collective global action
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    that safeguarded countries large
    and small in one fell swoop.
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    But here --
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    here's the intriguing part.
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    More than half of those extra SDRs
    that were printed in 2009 --
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    150 billion dollars worth --
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    went to developed market countries
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    who for the most part,
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    have a modest need
    for these foreign exchange reserves,
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    because they have flexible exchange rates.
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    So those extra reserves
    that were printed in 2009,
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    in the end,
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    for developed market countries at least,
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    weren't really needed,
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    and they remain unused today.
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    So here's an idea.
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    There's a first step.
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    Why don't we start
    spending those unused --
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    those extra SDRs
    that were printed in 2009 --
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    to combat climate change?
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    They could for example,
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    be used to buy bonds issued
    by the UN's Green Climate Fund.
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    This was a fund created in 2009,
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    following that climate
    agreement in Copenhagen.
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    And it was designed to channel funds
    towards developing countries
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    to meet their climate projects.
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    It's been one of the most
    successful funds of its type,
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    raising almost 10 billion dollars,
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    but if we use those extra
    SDRs that were issued,
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    it helps governments get back on track,
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    to meet that promise
    of 100 billion dollars a year
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    that was derailed by the financial crisis.
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    It could also --
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    it could also serve as a test case.
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    If the inflationary consequences
    of using SDRs in this way are benign,
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    it could be used to justify
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    the additional, extra issuance
    [invested], say, every five years,
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    again with the commitment
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    that developed market countries
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    would direct their share of the new
    reserves to the Green Climate Fund.
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    Printing international money in this way
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    has several advantages
    over printing national currencies.
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    The first is it's really easy to argue
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    that spending money to mitigate
    climate change benefits everyone.
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    No one section of society benefits
    from the printing press over another.
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    That problem of competing
    claims is mitigated.
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    It's also fair to say
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    that because it takes so many countries
    to agree to issue these extra SDRs,
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    it's highly unlikely that money
    printing would get out of control.
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    What you end up with
    is a collective, global action,
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    aimed --
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    and it's controlled global action --
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    aimed at a global good.
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    And ...
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    as we've learned
    with the money-printing schemes,
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    whatever concerns we have
    can be allayed by rules.
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    So for example,
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    the issuance of these extra SDRs
    every five years could be capped,
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    such that this international currency
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    is never more than five percent
    of global foreign exchange reserves.
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    That's important because it would allay --
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    well let's say that ridiculous
    concern the US might have --
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    that the SDR could ever challenge
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    the dollar's dominant role
    in international finance.
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    And in fact,
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    I think the only thing that the SDR
    would likely steal from the dollar,
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    under this scheme,
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    is its nickname --
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    the greenback,
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    because even with that cap in place,
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    the IMF could have
    followed up its issuance --
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    its massive issuance of SDRs in 2009 --
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    with a further 200 billion
    dollars of SDRs in 2014.
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    So hypothetically,
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    that would mean that developed countries
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    could have contributed up to 300
    billion dollars worth of SDRs
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    to the Green Climate Fund.
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    That's 30 times what it has today.
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    And you know,
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    as spectacular as that sounds,
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    it's only just beginning to look
    like "whatever it takes."
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    And just to think what amazing things
    could be done with that money --
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    consider this.
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    In 2009,
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    Norway promised one billion
    dollars of its reserves to Brazil
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    if they followed through on their
    goals on deforestation.
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    That program has since delivered
    a 70 percent reduction in deforestation
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    in the past decade.
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    That's saving 3.2 billion tons
    of carbon dioxide emissions,
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    which is the equivalent of taking
    all American cars off the roads
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    for three whole years.
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    So what could we do
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    with 300 other pay-for-performance
    climate projects like that,
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    organized on a global scale?
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    We could take cars off the roads
    for a generation.
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    So ...
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    let's not quibble about whether we can
    afford to fund climate change.
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    The real question is,
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    do we care enough about future generations
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    to take the very same policy risks
    we took to save the financial system?
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    After all,
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    we could do it,
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    we did do it
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    and we are doing it today.
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    We must, must, must
    do "whatever it takes."
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
A provocative way to finance the fight against climate change
Speaker:
Michael Metcalfe
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Video Language:
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Team:
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Duration:
12:52

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