A better way to talk about abortion
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0:01 - 0:03It was the middle of summer
and well past closing time -
0:03 - 0:06in the downtown Berkeley bar
where my friend Polly and I -
0:06 - 0:08worked together as bartenders.
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0:09 - 0:12Usually at the end of our shift
we had a drink -- but not that night. -
0:14 - 0:15"I'm pregnant.
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0:15 - 0:18Not sure what I'm going
to do yet," I told Polly. -
0:19 - 0:22Without hesitation, she replied,
"I've had an abortion." -
0:23 - 0:28Before Polly, no one had ever told me
that she'd had an abortion. -
0:29 - 0:31I'd graduated from college
just a few months earlier -
0:31 - 0:35and I was in a new relationship
when I found out that I was pregnant. -
0:36 - 0:40When I thought about my choices,
I honestly did not know how to decide, -
0:41 - 0:43what criteria I should use.
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0:43 - 0:46How would I know what
the right decision was? -
0:46 - 0:50I worried that I would regret
an abortion later. -
0:51 - 0:54Coming of age on the beaches
of Southern California, -
0:54 - 0:57I grew up in the middle of
our nation's abortion wars. -
0:58 - 1:02I was born in a trailer on the third
anniversary of Roe vs. Wade. -
1:04 - 1:06Our community was surfing Christians.
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1:06 - 1:10We cared about God, the less fortunate,
and the ocean. -
1:10 - 1:12Everyone was pro-life.
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1:12 - 1:18As a kid, the idea of abortion made me so
sad that I knew if I ever got pregnant -
1:18 - 1:20I could never have one.
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1:21 - 1:23And then I did.
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1:25 - 1:27It was a step towards the unknown.
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1:28 - 1:30But Polly had given me
a very special gift: -
1:30 - 1:33the knowledge that I wasn't alone
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1:33 - 1:37and the realization that abortion
was something that we can talk about. -
1:37 - 1:39Abortion is common.
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1:39 - 1:43According to the Guttmacher Institute,
one in three women in America -
1:43 - 1:45will have an abortion in their lifetime.
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1:48 - 1:52But for the last few decades, the dialogue
around abortion in the United States -
1:52 - 1:55has left little room for anything beyond
pro-life and pro-choice. -
1:56 - 1:58It's political and polarizing.
-
1:59 - 2:03But as much as abortion is hotly debated,
it's still rare for us, -
2:03 - 2:07whether as fellow women
or even just as fellow people, -
2:07 - 2:11to talk with one another
about the abortions that we have. -
2:12 - 2:13There is a gap.
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2:13 - 2:17Between what happens in politics
and what happens in real life, -
2:17 - 2:19and in that gap, a battlefield mentality.
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2:20 - 2:23An "are you with us
or against us?" stance takes root. -
2:24 - 2:27This isn't just about abortion.
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2:27 - 2:31There are so many important issues
that we can't talk about. -
2:32 - 2:38And so finding ways to shift the conflict
to a place of conversation -
2:38 - 2:40is the work of my life.
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2:41 - 2:44There are two main ways to get started.
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2:44 - 2:46One way is to listen closely.
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2:47 - 2:49And the other way is to share stories.
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2:51 - 2:55So, 15 years ago, I cofounded
an organization called Exhale -
2:55 - 2:57to start listening to people
who have had abortions. -
2:59 - 3:02The first thing we did was create
a talk-line, where women and men -
3:02 - 3:04could call to get emotional support.
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3:05 - 3:09Free of judgment and politics,
believe it or not, nothing like our sevice -
3:09 - 3:10had ever existed.
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3:12 - 3:16We needed a new framework that could
hold all the experiences that we were -
3:16 - 3:18hearing on our talk-line.
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3:19 - 3:21The feminist who regrets her abortion.
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3:22 - 3:24The Catholic who is grateful for hers.
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3:24 - 3:29The personal experiences that weren't
fitting neatly into one box or the other. -
3:29 - 3:33We didn't think it was right
to ask women to pick a side. -
3:33 - 3:38We wanted to show them that
the whole world was on their side, -
3:38 - 3:43as they were going through this deeply
personal experience. -
3:43 - 3:45So we invented "pro-voice."
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3:46 - 3:51Beyond abortion, pro-voice works on hard
issues that we've struggled with globally -
3:51 - 3:52for years,
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3:52 - 3:57issues like immigration, religious
tolerance, violence against women. -
3:57 - 4:01It also works on deeply personal topics
that might only matter to you -
4:01 - 4:03and your immediate family and friends.
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4:04 - 4:08They have a terminal illness,
their mother just died, -
4:08 - 4:12they have a child with special needs
and they can't talk about it. -
4:14 - 4:18Listening and storytelling are
the hallmarks of pro-voice practice. -
4:19 - 4:21Listening and storytelling.
-
4:21 - 4:23That sounds pretty nice.
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4:24 - 4:27Sounds maybe, easy?
We could all do that. -
4:27 - 4:29It's not easy.
It's very hard. -
4:30 - 4:36Pro-voice is hard because we are talking
about things everyone's fighting about -
4:36 - 4:39or the things that no one
wants to talk about. -
4:39 - 4:46I wish I could tell you that when you
decide to be pro-voice, that you'll find -
4:46 - 4:50beautiful moments of breakthrough
and gardens full of flowers, -
4:51 - 4:54where listening and storytelling
creates wonderful "a-ha" moments. -
4:55 - 4:59I wish I could tell you that there would
be a feminist welcoming party for you, -
4:59 - 5:03or that there's a long-lost sisterhood
of people who are just ready -
5:03 - 5:05to have your back when you get slammed.
-
5:06 - 5:11But it can be vulnerable and exhausting
to tell our own stories -
5:11 - 5:13when it feels like nobody cares.
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5:15 - 5:19And if we truly listen to one another,
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5:19 - 5:25we will hear things that demand
that we shift our own perceptions. -
5:26 - 5:29There is no perfect time
and there is no perfect place -
5:29 - 5:31to start a difficult conversation.
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5:32 - 5:37There's never a time when everyone will be
on the same page, share the same lens, -
5:37 - 5:40or know the same history.
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5:41 - 5:46So, let's talk about listening
and how to be a good listener. -
5:47 - 5:51There's lots of ways to be a good listener
and I'm going to give you just a couple. -
5:51 - 5:54One is to ask open-ended questions.
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5:54 - 5:57You can ask yourself or someone
that you know, -
5:57 - 6:00"How are you feeling?"
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6:00 - 6:01"What was that like?"
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6:02 - 6:04"What do you hope for, now?"
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6:06 - 6:10Another way to be a good listener
is to use reflective language. -
6:11 - 6:14If someone is talking about
their own personal experience, -
6:14 - 6:16use the words that they use.
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6:16 - 6:19If someone is talking about an abortion
and they say the word "baby," -
6:20 - 6:21you can say "baby."
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6:21 - 6:24If they say "fetus,"
you can say "fetus." -
6:24 - 6:27If someone describes themselves
as gender queer to you, -
6:27 - 6:29you can say "gender queer."
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6:30 - 6:33If someone kind of looks like a he,
but they say they're a she -- it's cool. -
6:34 - 6:36Call that person a she.
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6:36 - 6:40When we reflect the language of the person
who is sharing their own story, -
6:40 - 6:45we are conveying that we are interested
in understanding who they are -
6:45 - 6:47and what they're going through.
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6:48 - 6:52The same way that we hope people are
interested in knowing us. -
6:53 - 6:56So, I'll never forget being in one
of the Exhale counselor meetings, -
6:56 - 7:00listening to a volunteer talk about how
she was getting a lot of calls -
7:00 - 7:03from Christian women who
were talking about God. -
7:04 - 7:08Now, some of our volunteers are religious,
but this particular one was not. -
7:08 - 7:12At first, it felt a little weird for her
to talk to callers about God. -
7:13 - 7:15So, she decided to get comfortable.
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7:15 - 7:19And she stood in front of her mirror
at home, and she said the word "God." -
7:20 - 7:20"God."
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7:21 - 7:22"God."
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7:22 - 7:22"God."
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7:22 - 7:23"God."
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7:23 - 7:24"God."
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7:24 - 7:25"God."
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7:26 - 7:29Over and over and over again
until the word no longer felt strange -
7:29 - 7:31coming out her mouth.
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7:31 - 7:35Saying the word God did not turn this
volunteer into a Christian, -
7:35 - 7:40but it did make her a much
better listener of Christian women. -
7:43 - 7:47So, another way to be pro-voice
is to share stories, -
7:47 - 7:51and one risk that you take on, when you
share your story with someone else, -
7:51 - 7:54is that given the same
set of circumstances as you -
7:54 - 7:57they might actually
make a different decision. -
7:57 - 8:01For example, if you're telling a story
about your abortion, -
8:01 - 8:04realize that she might have had the baby.
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8:06 - 8:08She might have placed for adoption.
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8:10 - 8:14She might have told her parents
and her partner -- or not. -
8:15 - 8:20She might have felt relief and confidence,
even though you felt sad and lost. -
8:20 - 8:22This is okay.
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8:24 - 8:29Empathy gets created the moment we
imagine ourselves in someone else's shoes. -
8:30 - 8:33It doesn't mean we all have
to end up in the same place. -
8:35 - 8:40It's not agreement, it's not sameness
that pro-voice is after. -
8:41 - 8:47It creates a culture and a society that
values what make us special and unique. -
8:48 - 8:53It values what makes us human,
our flaws and our imperfections. -
8:53 - 8:58And this way of thinking allows us to see
our differences with respect, -
8:58 - 8:59instead of fear.
-
9:00 - 9:03And it generates the empathy that we need
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9:03 - 9:06to overcome all the ways
that we try to hurt one another. -
9:06 - 9:12Stigma, shame, prejudice,
discrimination, oppression. -
9:13 - 9:18Pro-voice is contagious,
and the more it's practiced -
9:18 - 9:19the more it spreads.
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9:23 - 9:26So, last year I was pregnant again.
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9:26 - 9:30This time I was looking forward
to the birth of my son. -
9:30 - 9:37And while pregnant, I had never been asked
how I was feeling so much in all my life. -
9:37 - 9:38(Laughter)
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9:38 - 9:42And however I replied, whether I was
feeling wonderful and excited -
9:42 - 9:45or scared and totally freaked out,
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9:45 - 9:50there was always someone there
giving me a "been there" response. -
9:50 - 9:51It was awesome.
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9:51 - 9:57It was a welcome, yet dramatic
departure from what I experience -
9:57 - 10:00when I talk about
my mixed feelings of my abortion. -
10:01 - 10:05Pro-voice is about the real stories
of real people -
10:05 - 10:07making an impact on the way abortion
-
10:07 - 10:12and so many other politicized
and stigmatized issues -
10:12 - 10:14are understood and discussed.
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10:14 - 10:18From sexuality and mental health
to poverty and incarceration. -
10:20 - 10:23Far beyond definition
as single right or wrong decisions, -
10:23 - 10:26our experiences can exist on a spectrum.
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10:28 - 10:33Pro-voice focuses that conversation
on human experience -
10:33 - 10:38and it makes support and respect
possible for all. -
10:39 - 10:40Thank you.
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10:40 - 10:43(Applause)
- Title:
- A better way to talk about abortion
- Speaker:
- Aspen Baker
- Description:
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Abortion is extremely common. In America, for example, one in three women will have an abortion in their lifetime, yet the strong emotions sparked by the topic — and the highly politicized rhetoric around it — leave little room for thoughtful, open debate. In this personal, thoughtful talk, Aspen Baker makes the case for being neither “pro-life” nor “pro-choice” but rather "pro-voice" — and for the roles that listening and storytelling can play when it comes to discussing difficult topics.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:58
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