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A better way to talk about abortion

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    It was the middle of summer
    and well past closing time
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    in the downtown Berkeley bar
    where my friend Polly and I
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    worked together as bartenders.
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    Usually at the end of our shift
    we had a drink -- but not that night.
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    "I'm pregnant.
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    Not sure what I'm going
    to do yet," I told Polly.
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    Without hesitation, she replied,
    "I've had an abortion."
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    Before Polly, no one had ever told me
    that she'd had an abortion.
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    I'd graduated from college
    just a few months earlier
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    and I was in a new relationship
    when I found out that I was pregnant.
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    When I thought about my choices,
    I honestly did not know how to decide,
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    what criteria I should use.
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    How would I know what
    the right decision was?
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    I worried that I would regret
    an abortion later.
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    Coming of age on the beaches
    of Southern California,
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    I grew up in the middle of
    our nation's abortion wars.
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    I was born in a trailer on the third
    anniversary of Roe vs. Wade.
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    Our community was surfing Christians.
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    We cared about God, the less fortunate,
    and the ocean.
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    Everyone was pro-life.
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    As a kid, the idea of abortion made me so
    sad that I knew if I ever got pregnant
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    I could never have one.
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    And then I did.
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    It was a step towards the unknown.
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    But Polly had given me
    a very special gift:
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    the knowledge that I wasn't alone
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    and the realization that abortion
    was something that we can talk about.
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    Abortion is common.
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    According to the Guttmacher Institute,
    one in three women in America
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    will have an abortion in their lifetime.
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    But for the last few decades, the dialogue
    around abortion in the United States
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    has left little room for anything beyond
    pro-life and pro-choice.
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    It's political and polarizing.
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    But as much as abortion is hotly debated,
    it's still rare for us,
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    whether as fellow women
    or even just as fellow people,
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    to talk with one another
    about the abortions that we have.
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    There is a gap.
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    Between what happens in politics
    and what happens in real life,
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    and in that gap, a battlefield mentality.
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    An "are you with us
    or against us?" stance takes root.
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    This isn't just about abortion.
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    There are so many important issues
    that we can't talk about.
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    And so finding ways to shift the conflict
    to a place of conversation
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    is the work of my life.
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    There are two main ways to get started.
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    One way is to listen closely.
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    And the other way is to share stories.
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    So, 15 years ago, I cofounded
    an organization called Exhale
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    to start listening to people
    who have had abortions.
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    The first thing we did was create
    a talk-line, where women and men
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    could call to get emotional support.
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    Free of judgment and politics,
    believe it or not, nothing like our sevice
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    had ever existed.
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    We needed a new framework that could
    hold all the experiences that we were
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    hearing on our talk-line.
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    The feminist who regrets her abortion.
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    The Catholic who is grateful for hers.
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    The personal experiences that weren't
    fitting neatly into one box or the other.
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    We didn't think it was right
    to ask women to pick a side.
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    We wanted to show them that
    the whole world was on their side,
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    as they were going through this deeply
    personal experience.
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    So we invented "pro-voice."
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    Beyond abortion, pro-voice works on hard
    issues that we've struggled with globally
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    for years,
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    issues like immigration, religious
    tolerance, violence against women.
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    It also works on deeply personal topics
    that might only matter to you
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    and your immediate family and friends.
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    They have a terminal illness,
    their mother just died,
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    they have a child with special needs
    and they can't talk about it.
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    Listening and storytelling are
    the hallmarks of pro-voice practice.
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    Listening and storytelling.
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    That sounds pretty nice.
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    Sounds maybe, easy?
    We could all do that.
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    It's not easy.
    It's very hard.
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    Pro-voice is hard because we are talking
    about things everyone's fighting about
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    or the things that no one
    wants to talk about.
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    I wish I could tell you that when you
    decide to be pro-voice, that you'll find
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    beautiful moments of breakthrough
    and gardens full of flowers,
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    where listening and storytelling
    creates wonderful "a-ha" moments.
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    I wish I could tell you that there would
    be a feminist welcoming party for you,
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    or that there's a long-lost sisterhood
    of people who are just ready
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    to have your back when you get slammed.
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    But it can be vulnerable and exhausting
    to tell our own stories
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    when it feels like nobody cares.
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    And if we truly listen to one another,
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    we will hear things that demand
    that we shift our own perceptions.
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    There is no perfect time
    and there is no perfect place
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    to start a difficult conversation.
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    There's never a time when everyone will be
    on the same page, share the same lens,
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    or know the same history.
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    So, let's talk about listening
    and how to be a good listener.
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    There's lots of ways to be a good listener
    and I'm going to give you just a couple.
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    One is to ask open-ended questions.
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    You can ask yourself or someone
    that you know,
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    "How are you feeling?"
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    "What was that like?"
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    "What do you hope for, now?"
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    Another way to be a good listener
    is to use reflective language.
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    If someone is talking about
    their own personal experience,
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    use the words that they use.
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    If someone is talking about an abortion
    and they say the word "baby,"
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    you can say "baby."
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    If they say "fetus,"
    you can say "fetus."
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    If someone describes themselves
    as gender queer to you,
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    you can say "gender queer."
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    If someone kind of looks like a he,
    but they say they're a she -- it's cool.
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    Call that person a she.
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    When we reflect the language of the person
    who is sharing their own story,
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    we are conveying that we are interested
    in understanding who they are
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    and what they're going through.
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    The same way that we hope people are
    interested in knowing us.
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    So, I'll never forget being in one
    of the Exhale counselor meetings,
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    listening to a volunteer talk about how
    she was getting a lot of calls
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    from Christian women who
    were talking about God.
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    Now, some of our volunteers are religious,
    but this particular one was not.
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    At first, it felt a little weird for her
    to talk to callers about God.
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    So, she decided to get comfortable.
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    And she stood in front of her mirror
    at home, and she said the word "God."
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    "God."
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    "God."
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    "God."
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    "God."
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    "God."
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    "God."
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    Over and over and over again
    until the word no longer felt strange
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    coming out her mouth.
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    Saying the word God did not turn this
    volunteer into a Christian,
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    but it did make her a much
    better listener of Christian women.
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    So, another way to be pro-voice
    is to share stories,
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    and one risk that you take on, when you
    share your story with someone else,
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    is that given the same
    set of circumstances as you
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    they might actually
    make a different decision.
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    For example, if you're telling a story
    about your abortion,
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    realize that she might have had the baby.
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    She might have placed for adoption.
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    She might have told her parents
    and her partner -- or not.
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    She might have felt relief and confidence,
    even though you felt sad and lost.
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    This is okay.
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    Empathy gets created the moment we
    imagine ourselves in someone else's shoes.
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    It doesn't mean we all have
    to end up in the same place.
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    It's not agreement, it's not sameness
    that pro-voice is after.
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    It creates a culture and a society that
    values what make us special and unique.
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    It values what makes us human,
    our flaws and our imperfections.
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    And this way of thinking allows us to see
    our differences with respect,
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    instead of fear.
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    And it generates the empathy that we need
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    to overcome all the ways
    that we try to hurt one another.
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    Stigma, shame, prejudice,
    discrimination, oppression.
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    Pro-voice is contagious,
    and the more it's practiced
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    the more it spreads.
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    So, last year I was pregnant again.
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    This time I was looking forward
    to the birth of my son.
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    And while pregnant, I had never been asked
    how I was feeling so much in all my life.
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    (Laughter)
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    And however I replied, whether I was
    feeling wonderful and excited
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    or scared and totally freaked out,
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    there was always someone there
    giving me a "been there" response.
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    It was awesome.
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    It was a welcome, yet dramatic
    departure from what I experience
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    when I talk about
    my mixed feelings of my abortion.
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    Pro-voice is about the real stories
    of real people
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    making an impact on the way abortion
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    and so many other politicized
    and stigmatized issues
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    are understood and discussed.
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    From sexuality and mental health
    to poverty and incarceration.
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    Far beyond definition
    as single right or wrong decisions,
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    our experiences can exist on a spectrum.
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    Pro-voice focuses that conversation
    on human experience
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    and it makes support and respect
    possible for all.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
A better way to talk about abortion
Speaker:
Aspen Baker
Description:

Abortion is extremely common. In America, for example, one in three women will have an abortion in their lifetime, yet the strong emotions sparked by the topic — and the highly politicized rhetoric around it — leave little room for thoughtful, open debate. In this personal, thoughtful talk, Aspen Baker makes the case for being neither “pro-life” nor “pro-choice” but rather "pro-voice" — and for the roles that listening and storytelling can play when it comes to discussing difficult topics.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
10:58

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