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How not to be ignorant about the world

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    Hans Rosling: I'm going to ask you
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    three multiple choice questions.
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    Use this device. Use this device to answer.
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    The first question is, how did the number
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    of deaths per year
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    from natural disaster,
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    how did that change during the last century?
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    Did it more than double,
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    did it remain about the same in the world as a whole,
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    or did it decrease to less than half?
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    Please answer A, B or C.
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    I see lots of answers. This is much
    faster than I do it at universities.
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    They are so slow. They keep
    thinking, thinking, thinking.
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    Oh, very, very good.
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    And we go to the next question.
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    So how long did women 30 years old
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    in the world go to school:
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    seven years, five years or three years?
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    A, B or C? Please answer.
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    And we go to the next question.
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    In the last 20 years, how did the percentage
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    of people in the world
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    who live in extreme poverty change?
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    Extreme poverty — not having
    enough food for the day.
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    Did it almost double,
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    did it remain more or less the same,
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    or did it halve?
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    A, B or C?
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    Now, answers.
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    You see,
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    deaths from natural disasters in the world,
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    you can see it from this graph here,
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    from 1900 to 2000.
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    In 1900, there was about half a million people
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    who died every year from natural disasters:
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    floods, earthquakes, volcanic
    eruption, whatever, droughts.
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    And then, how did that change?
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    Gapminder asked the public in Sweden.
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    This is how they answered.
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    The Swedish public answered like this:
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    Fifty percent thought it had doubled,
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    38 percent said it's more or less the same,
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    12 said it had halved.
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    This is the best data from the disaster researchers,
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    and it goes up and down,
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    and it goes to the Second World War,
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    and after that it starts to fall and it keeps falling
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    and it's down to much less than half.
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    The world has been much, much more capable
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    as the decades go by
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    to protect people from this, you know.
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    So only 12 percent of the Swedes know this.
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    So I went to the zoo and I asked the chimps.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    The chimps don't watch the evening news,
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    so the chimps,
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    they choose by random, so the
    Swedes answer worse than random.
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    Now how did you do?
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    That's you.
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    You were beaten by the chimps.
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    (Laughter)
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    But it was close.
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    You were three times better than the Swedes,
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    but that's not enough.
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    You shouldn't compare yourself to Swedes.
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    You must have higher ambitions in the world.
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    Let's look at the next answer here: women in school.
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    Here, you can see men went eight years.
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    How long did women go to school?
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    Well, we asked the Swedes like this,
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    and that gives you a hint, doesn't it?
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    The right answer is probably the one
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    the fewest Swedes picked, isn't it?
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    (Laughter)
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    Let's see, let's see. Here we come.
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    Yes, yes, yes, women have almost caught up.
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    This is the U.S. public.
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    And this is you. Here you come.
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    Ooh.
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    Well, congratulations, you're
    twice as good as the Swedes,
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    but you don't need me —
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    So how come? I think it's like this,
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    that everyone is aware that there are countries
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    and there are areas
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    where girls have great difficulties.
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    They are stopped when they go to school,
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    and it's disgusting.
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    But in the majority of the world,
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    where most people in the world live,
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    most countries, girls today go to school
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    as long as boys, more or less.
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    That doesn't mean that gender equity is achieved,
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    not at all.
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    They still are confined to terrible, terrible limitations,
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    but schooling is there in the world today.
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    Now, we miss the majority.
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    When you answer, you answer
    according to the worst places,
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    and there you are right, but you miss the majority.
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    What about poverty?
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    Well, it's very clear that poverty here
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    was almost halved,
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    and in U.S., when we asked the public,
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    only five percent got it right.
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    And you?
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    Ah, you almost made it to the chimps.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    That little, just a few of you!
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    There must be preconceived ideas, you know.
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    And many in the rich countries,
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    they think that oh, we can never end extreme poverty.
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    Of course they think so,
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    because they don't even know what has happened.
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    The first thing to think about the future
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    is to know about the present.
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    These questions were a few of the first ones
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    in the pilot phase of the Ignorance Project
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    in Gapminder Foundation that we run,
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    and it was started, this project, last year
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    by my boss, and also my son, Ola Rosling. (Laughter)
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    He's cofounder and director,
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    and he wanted, Ola told me
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    we have to be more systematic
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    when we fight devastating ignorance.
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    So already the pilots reveal this,
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    that so many in the public score worse than random,
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    so we have to think about preconceived ideas,
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    and one of the main preconceived ideas
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    is about world income distribution.
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    Look here. This is how it was in 1975.
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    It's the number of people on each income,
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    from one dollar a day —
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    (Applause)
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    See, there was one hump here,
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    around one dollar a day,
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    and then there was one hump here
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    somewhere between 10 and 100 dollars.
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    The world was two groups.
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    It was a camel world, like a camel with two humps,
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    the poor ones and the rich ones,
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    and there were fewer in between.
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    But look how this has changed:
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    As I go forward, what has changed,
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    the world population has grown,
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    and the humps start to merge.
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    The lower humps merged with the upper hump,
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    and the camel dies and we have a dromedary world
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    with one hump only.
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    The percent in poverty has decreased.
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    Still it's appalling
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    that so many remain in extreme poverty.
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    We still have this group, almost a billion, over there,
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    but that can be ended now.
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    The challenge we have now
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    is to get away from that,
    understand where the majority is,
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    and that is very clearly shown in this question.
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    We asked, what is the percentage of the world's
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    one-year-old children who have got those
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    basic vaccines against measles and other things
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    that we have had for many years:
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    20, 50 or 80 percent?
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    Now, this is what the U.S.
    public and the Swedish answered.
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    Look at the Swedish result:
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    you know what the right answer is.
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    (Laughter)
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    Who the heck is a professor of
    global health in that country?
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    Well, it's me. It's me.
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    (Laughter)
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    It's very difficult, this. It's very difficult.
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    (Applause)
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    However, Ola's approach
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    to really measure what we know made headlines,
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    and CNN published these results on their web
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    and they had the questions there, millions answered,
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    and I think there were about 2,000 comments,
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    and this was one of the comments.
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    "I bet no member of the media
    passed the test," he said.
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    So Ola told me, "Take these devices.
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    You are invited to media conferences.
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    Give it to them and measure what the media know."
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    And ladies and gentlemen,
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    for the first time, the informal results
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    from a conference with U.S. media.
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    And then, lately, from the European Union media.
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    (Laughter)
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    You see, the problem is not that people
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    don't read and listen to the media.
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    The problem is that the
    media doesn't know themselves.
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    What shall we do about this, Ola?
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    Do we have any ideas?
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    (Applause)
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    Ola Rosling: Yes, I have an idea, but first,
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    I'm so sorry that you were beaten by the chimps.
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    Fortunately, I will be able to comfort you
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    by showing why it was not your fault, actually.
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    Then, I will equip you with some tricks
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    for beating the chimps in the future.
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    That's basically what I will do.
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    But first, let's look at why are we so ignorant,
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    and it all starts in this place.
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    It's Hudiksvall. It's a city in northern Sweden.
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    It's a neighborhood where I grew up,
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    and it's a neighborhood with a large problem.
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    Actually, it has exactly the same problem
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    which existed in all the neighborhoods
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    where you grew up as well.
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    It was not representative. Okay?
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    It gave me a very biased view
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    of how life is on this planet.
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    So this is the first piece of the ignorance puzzle.
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    We have a personal bias.
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    We have all different experiences
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    from communities and people we meet,
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    and on top of this, we start school,
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    and we add the next problem.
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    Well, I like schools,
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    but teachers tend to teach outdated worldviews,
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    because they learned something
    when they went to school,
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    and now they describe this world to the students
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    without any bad intentions,
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    and those books, of course, that are printed
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    are outdated in a world that changes.
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    And there is really no practice
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    to keep the teaching material up to date.
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    So that's what we are focusing on.
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    So we have these outdated facts
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    added on top of our personal bias.
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    What happens next is news, okay?
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    An excellent journalist knows how to pick
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    the story that will make headlines,
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    and people will read it because it's sensational.
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    Unusual events are more interesting, no?
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    And they are exaggerated,
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    and especially things we're afraid of.
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    A shark attack on a Swedish person
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    will get headlines for weeks in Sweden.
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    So these three skewed sources of information
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    were really hard to get away from.
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    They kind of bombard us
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    and equip our mind with a lot of strange ideas,
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    and on top of it we put the very thing
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    that makes us humans, our human intuition.
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    It was good in evolution.
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    It helped us generalize
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    and jump to conclusions very, very fast.
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    It helped us exaggerate what we were afraid of,
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    and we seek causality where there is none,
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    and we then get an illusion of confidence
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    where we believe that we are the best car drivers,
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    above the average.
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    Everybody answered that question,
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    "Yeah, I drive cars better."
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    Okay, this was good evolutionarily,
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    but now when it comes to the worldview,
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    it is the exact reason why it's upside down.
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    The trends that are increasing are instead falling,
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    and the other way around,
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    and in this case, the chimps
    use our intuition against us,
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    and it becomes our weakness instead of our strength.
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    It was supposed to be our strength, wasn't it?
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    So how do we solve such problems?
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    First, we need to measure it,
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    and then we need to cure it.
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    So by measuring it we can understand
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    what is the pattern of ignorance.
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    We started the pilot last year,
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    and now we're pretty sure that we will encounter
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    a lot of ignorance across the whole world,
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    and the idea is really to
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    scale it up to all domains
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    or dimensions of global development,
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    such as climate, endangered species, human rights,
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    gender equality, energy, finance.
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    All different sectors have facts,
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    and there are organizations trying to spread
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    awareness about these facts.
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    So I've started actually contacting some of them,
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    like WWF and Amnesty International and UNICEF,
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    and asking them, what are your favorite facts
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    which you think the public doesn't know?
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    Okay, I gather those facts.
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    Imagine a long list with, say, 250 facts.
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    And then we poll the public
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    and see where they score worst.
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    So we get a shorter list
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    with the terrible results,
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    like some few examples from Hans,
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    and we have no problem finding these kinds
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    of terrible results.
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    Okay, this little shortlist, what
    are we going to do with it?
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    Well, we turn it into a knowledge certificate,
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    a global knowledge certificate,
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    which you can use, if you're a large organization,
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    a school, a university, or maybe a news agency,
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    to certify yourself as globally knowledgeable.
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    Basically meaning, we don't hire people
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    who score like chimpanzees.
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    Of course you shouldn't.
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    So maybe 10 years from now,
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    if this project succeeds,
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    you will be sitting in an interview
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    having to fill out this crazy global knowledge.
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    So now we come to the practical tricks.
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    How are you going to succeed?
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    There is, of course, one way,
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    which is to sit down late nights
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    and learn all the facts by heart
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    by reading all these reports.
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    That will never happen, actually.
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    Not even Hans thinks that's going to happen.
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    People don't have that time.
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    People like shortcuts, and here are the shortcuts.
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    We need to turn our intuition into strength again.
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    We need to be able to generalize.
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    So now I'm going to show you some tricks
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    where the misconceptions are turned around
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    into rules of thumb.
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    Let's start with the first misconception.
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    This is very widespread.
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    Everything is getting worse.
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    You heard it. You thought it yourself.
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    The other way to think is, most things improve.
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    So you're sitting with a question in front of you
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    and you're unsure. You should guess "improve."
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    Okay? Don't go for the worse.
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    That will help you score better on our tests.
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    (Applause)
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    That was the first one.
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    There are rich and poor
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    and the gap is increasing.
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    It's a terrible inequality.
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    Yeah, it's an unequal world,
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    but when you look at the data, it's one hump.
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    Okay? If you feel unsure,
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    go for "the most people are in the middle."
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    That's going to help you get the answer right.
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    Now, the next preconceived idea is
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    first countries and people need to be very, very rich
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    to get the social development
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    like girls in school and be ready for natural disasters.
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    No, no, no. That's wrong.
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    Look: that huge hump in the middle
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    already have girls in school.
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    So if you are unsure, go for the
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    "the majority already have this,"
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    like electricity and girls in
    school, these kinds of things.
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    They're only rules of thumb,
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    so of course they don't apply to everything,
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    but this is how you can generalize.
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    Let's look at the last one.
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    If something, yes, this is a good one,
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    sharks are dangerous.
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    No — well, yes, but they are not so important
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    in the global statistics, that is what I'm saying.
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    I actually, I'm very afraid of sharks.
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    So as soon as I see a question
    about things I'm afraid of,
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    which might be earthquakes, other religions,
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    maybe I'm afraid of terrorists or sharks,
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    anything that makes me feel,
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    assume you're going to exaggerate the problem.
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    That's a rule of thumb.
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    Of course there are dangerous
    things that are also great.
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    Sharks kill very, very few.
    That's how you should think.
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    With these four rules of thumb,
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    you could probably answer better than the chimps,
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    because the chimps cannot do this.
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    They cannot generalize these kinds of rules.
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    And hopefully we can turn your world around
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    and we're going to beat the chimps. Okay?
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    (Applause)
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    That's a systematic approach.
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    Now the question, is this important?
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    Yeah, it's important to understand poverty,
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    extreme poverty and how to fight it,
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    and how to bring girls in school.
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    When we realize that actually it's
    succeeding, we can understand it.
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    But is it important for everyone else
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    who cares about the rich end of this scale?
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    I would say yes, extremely important,
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    for the same reason.
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    If you have a fact-based worldview of today,
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    you might have a chance to understand
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    what's coming next in the future.
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    We're going back to these two humps in 1975.
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    That's when I was born,
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    and I selected the West.
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    That's the current EU countries and North America.
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    Let's now see how the rest and the West compares
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    in terms of how rich you are.
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    These are the people who can afford
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    to fly abroad with an airplane for a vacation.
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    In 1975, only 30 percent of them lived
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    outside EU and North America.
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    But this has changed, okay?
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    So first, let's look at the change up till today, 2014.
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    Today it's 50/50.
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    The Western domination is over, as of today.
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    That's nice. So what's going to happen next?
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    Do you see the big hump? Did you see how it moved?
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    I did a little experiment. I went to the IMF,
    International Monetary Fund, website.
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    They have a forecast for the next
    five years of GDP per capita.
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    So I can use that to go five years into the future,
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    assuming the income inequality
    of each country is the same.
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    I did that, but I went even further.
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    I used those five years for the next 20 years
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    with the same speed, just as an
    experiment what might actually happen.
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    Let's move into the future.
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    In 2020, it's 57 percent in the rest.
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    In 2025, 63 percent.
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    2030, 68. And in 2035, the West is
    outnumbered in the rich consumer market.
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    These are just projections of
    GDP per capita into the future.
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    Seventy-three percent of the rich consumers
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    are going to live outside North America and Europe.
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    So yes, I think it's a good idea for
    a company to use this certificate
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    to make sure to make fact-
    based decisions in the future.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
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    Bruno Giussani: Hans and Ola Rosling!
Title:
How not to be ignorant about the world
Speaker:
Hans and Ola Rosling
Description:

How much do you know about the world? Hans Rosling, with his famous charts of global population, health and income data (and an extra-extra-long pointer), demonstrates that you have a high statistical chance of being quite wrong about what you think you know. Play along with his audience quiz — then, from Hans’ son Ola, learn 4 ways to quickly get less ignorant.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
20:31

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