Robots, Collective Intelligence, and Participatory Governance: Nikolaos Mavridis at TEDxCarthage
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0:09 - 0:11Imagine a world
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0:11 - 0:15where robots are part
of your everyday life, -
0:15 - 0:19and not only as helpers,
but also as companions and friends. -
0:20 - 0:24And where the minds of such robots
are not just building the big, -
0:24 - 0:27technological centers of the world
like Silicon Valley, -
0:27 - 0:30but they are built even
in a small oasis city -
0:30 - 0:32in the middle of the Arabian Desert,
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0:32 - 0:34such as Al Ain.
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0:35 - 0:37Furthermore,
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0:37 - 0:39imagine a world
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0:39 - 0:43in which we can all participate
in wider intelligent entities, -
0:43 - 0:47that are made up of potentially
thousands of humans and machines, -
0:47 - 0:50even with ten seconds
of our time every day, -
0:50 - 0:55and whose capabilities might
far surpass the current limits -
0:55 - 0:58of both human
as well as artificial intelligence. -
1:00 - 1:01And finally,
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1:01 - 1:02imagine a world
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1:02 - 1:04where we can harness
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1:04 - 1:09the collective mind and intellect
of the citizens of our nations -
1:09 - 1:12in order to be able to bring forth
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1:12 - 1:17effective participatory governance
for the smart green cities of the future. -
1:17 - 1:22These three have been my dreams
and goals in the last ten years. -
1:22 - 1:25And they have partially
produced some fruit: -
1:25 - 1:29such as Ibn Sina, the world's first
Arabic speaking android robot. -
1:30 - 1:33In the words of the BBC,
as recorded in my lab: -
1:36 - 1:40(Video) But unlike his older counterpart,
this Ibn Sina is altogether -
1:40 - 1:42more high tech.
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1:44 - 1:47As well as being
fluent in English and Arabic, -
1:47 - 1:51he can hold a conversation with humans.
He looks for information about us -
1:51 - 1:54on the Internet,
and uses that to chat with us. -
1:54 - 1:57He'll also remember it
for the next time you meet. -
1:57 - 1:59Robot voice: Saeed - Happy.
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2:01 - 2:05Narrator: But this lab isn't
in Japan, China, or the United States; -
2:05 - 2:10it is in Al Ain, just an hour's drive
from the UAE capital Abu Dhabi. -
2:10 - 2:13(Applause)
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2:14 - 2:17Nikolaos Mavridis:
I would like to ask you -
2:17 - 2:19to embark with me upon a journey,
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2:19 - 2:22that will have three parts:
first, I will start with -
2:22 - 2:26a very short history of intelligence
on the planet Earth, to arrive -
2:26 - 2:29to the moment where we actually
have robots interacting with humans. -
2:29 - 2:33Then, I will talk about
individual intelligence, -
2:33 - 2:36and how this scales up
to collective intelligence. -
2:36 - 2:39And in the end, I will go
to the most crucial question, I think, -
2:39 - 2:43for today: how can we harness
the collective mind of our citizens -
2:43 - 2:47in order to bring forth
effective participatory governance? -
2:47 - 2:48Let us start!
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2:50 - 2:52In the beginning, the Earth
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2:52 - 2:54was full of lifeless matter.
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2:54 - 2:55And then,
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2:55 - 2:57the first organisms appeared,
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2:57 - 2:58And later,
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2:58 - 3:00the first animals
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3:00 - 3:03that could actually perceive
the world through their sensors, -
3:03 - 3:05their eyes and their ears, and then
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3:05 - 3:07mediated through their
natural intelligence, -
3:07 - 3:09they could act upon the world
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3:09 - 3:11through their muscles.
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3:12 - 3:14Later,
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3:14 - 3:15humans appeared,
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3:15 - 3:17and with them,
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3:17 - 3:19the first man-made objects,
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3:19 - 3:20such as tools,
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3:20 - 3:21and much later,
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3:21 - 3:23a very special kind
of man-made objects: -
3:23 - 3:25machines, that could
run along on their own. -
3:25 - 3:27And it wasn't until very recently,
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3:27 - 3:30that we started getting
the first intelligent machines, -
3:30 - 3:32such as computers.
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3:33 - 3:34But ask yourselves:
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3:34 - 3:36how much has our life changed,
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3:36 - 3:39since the introduction
of intelligent machines? -
3:39 - 3:40Just think:
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3:40 - 3:42in the last week,
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3:42 - 3:43how much time have you spent
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3:43 - 3:47in direct interaction, one-to-one
with another person? -
3:47 - 3:49Versus how much time have you spent
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3:49 - 3:51in electronic mediated interaction,
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3:51 - 3:55through your cell phone,
or through your messaging system? -
3:55 - 3:59Versus, more importantly,
how much time have you spent, -
3:59 - 4:01interacting with a machine,
and not a human? -
4:01 - 4:04With a website,
with a computer game, with an ATM, -
4:04 - 4:07and in the future, with robots?
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4:07 - 4:09The average American is spending
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4:09 - 4:11two hours of his day online,
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4:11 - 4:13and a big part of this time has to do
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4:13 - 4:15with interaction with machines,
not with humans. -
4:15 - 4:17So we are spending more
and more time with them, -
4:17 - 4:19and slowly,
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4:19 - 4:22we are starting to relate to them.
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4:25 - 4:26And then,
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4:26 - 4:27came robots.
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4:27 - 4:30And robots are very different
from other intelligent machines; -
4:30 - 4:32they don't need to have
somebody at a keyboard -
4:32 - 4:33in order to feed them
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4:33 - 4:35with information from the world,
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4:35 - 4:36as you need for a computer;
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4:36 - 4:38they have their own sensors,
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4:38 - 4:41they can perceive the world through
their cameras and their vision systems, -
4:41 - 4:45through their sonars, through their
auditory sensors and so on. -
4:45 - 4:48And most importantly they can also
directly act upon the world; -
4:48 - 4:49they have their own muscles
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4:49 - 4:51which are their motors, in this case.
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4:51 - 4:54And the connection between
the sensors and the motors -
4:54 - 4:56happens through their
artificial intelligence. -
4:56 - 4:57For example,
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4:57 - 4:59when it comes to chess,
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5:00 - 5:01the Deep Blue computer of IBM
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5:01 - 5:03was able to win over Kasparov,
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5:03 - 5:05the World Champion of chess.
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5:05 - 5:08But still, in many, many other things,
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5:08 - 5:11human intelligence is far superior
to machine intelligence; -
5:11 - 5:15take for example, the motor
abilities of a 5 year-old girl, -
5:15 - 5:18if you get the best biped humanoid robot,
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5:18 - 5:19like Asimo that you saw,
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5:19 - 5:22it is much worse when it comes
to what it can do. -
5:22 - 5:25Take also the abilities of young children
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5:25 - 5:27to be able to continuously learn
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5:27 - 5:28in an exploratory manner.
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5:28 - 5:30Again, the best machine learning program
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5:30 - 5:34out there cannot even think about
doing something like that. -
5:35 - 5:40There are unsurmountable limits, though,
to what a single intelligent entity, -
5:40 - 5:44either it being human or being machine,
can do on its own. -
5:46 - 5:48And this is why, participating in groups
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5:48 - 5:51is not only very, very pleasant
as an activity, -
5:51 - 5:56but it can enable us to do things
that we cannot even think of alone. -
5:56 - 5:57But the intermediate stage
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5:57 - 6:00between the single individual
and the group -
6:00 - 6:02is the pair.
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6:02 - 6:05In this case, a pair of a robot
and a human -
6:05 - 6:07
interacting with one another. -
6:07 - 6:09And most of the work
that I have done so far in my lab -
6:09 - 6:12actually has to do
with exactly this setting. -
6:12 - 6:15And let me share with you
three interesting examples of that: -
6:16 - 6:21first, the robot Ripley,
which has the form of a helping hand. -
6:21 - 6:22You can give it commands in language,
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6:22 - 6:25it helps you with things
that you want to do on a table -
6:25 - 6:28and it can learn the meaning
of words through examples. -
6:28 - 6:30Let us see it in action!
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6:30 - 6:31(Video) Man: Where is the red one?
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6:32 - 6:34Robot voice: At the top.
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6:34 - 6:35Man: Look at the center!
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6:38 - 6:40Robot voice: OK.
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6:42 - 6:43Man: Where is the red one?
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6:43 - 6:46NM: So up there you can see
what the camera sees, -
6:47 - 6:50and this is the model
of the world that it makes. -
6:55 - 6:57(Video) Man: What color are the objects?
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6:57 - 6:59Robot voice:
One is red, and the other is green. -
6:59 - 7:03NM: It cannot see the red object anymore,
but it still remembers it. -
7:03 - 7:05Man: Imagine a blue object on the left.
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7:05 - 7:08NM: Now we are telling it
that there is an object on the left, -
7:08 - 7:09so it's imagining an object
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7:09 - 7:11and it waits to see it
when it looks on the left. -
7:11 - 7:13(Video) Man: Where is the blue one?
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7:14 - 7:16Robot voice: Most probably at the left.
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7:18 - 7:20Man: How big is the blue one?
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7:21 - 7:23Robot voice: I have no idea.
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7:25 - 7:26Man: Look at the left!
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7:26 - 7:29NM: And now he will see
what he was imagining before -
7:29 - 7:31and verify that indeed
what I was telling him was true, -
7:31 - 7:34that there is a blue object,
and it will know how big it is. -
7:34 - 7:37Man: How big is the blue one?
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7:37 - 7:39Robot voice: Small.
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7:41 - 7:43NM: And the robot can also remember.
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7:44 - 7:48Man: How big was the blue one
when your head started moving? -
7:48 - 7:50Robot voice: I had no idea.
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7:54 - 7:57Man: Where was the red one
when the green one appeared? -
7:58 - 8:01Robot voice: Most probably at the top,
but maybe not. -
8:03 - 8:04Man: Thank you!
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8:04 - 8:07Robot voice: You're welcome.
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8:07 - 8:10(Applause)
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8:10 - 8:13NM: So you see how, slowly,
these machines are learning -
8:13 - 8:17how to bring part of the world
within their own mental realm, their head. -
8:17 - 8:19And then they're learning how to connect
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8:19 - 8:21all of these things with language
and help us, -
8:21 - 8:24and even remember
in some cases, and imagine. -
8:24 - 8:27The second example
that I want to share with you -
8:27 - 8:29is from the Facebots robots.
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8:29 - 8:32And here my purpose was to build
a robot that can interact with you -
8:32 - 8:35not only once,
but it can keep your interest -
8:35 - 8:37so you can speak again with him
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8:37 - 8:40after one day, after one week,
many times within a month -
8:40 - 8:41or three months.
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8:41 - 8:43And for that reason it's trying to create
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8:43 - 8:45shared memories with you,
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8:45 - 8:47so it remembers the things
that you did together, -
8:47 - 8:48and shared friends,
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8:48 - 8:50so it can spread gossip about the friends
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8:50 - 8:52and have an interesting discussion.
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8:52 - 8:55At the same time it can meet with
people physically or through Facebook -
8:55 - 8:59and also it can get information from
Facebook that is relevant to them. -
8:59 - 9:01Let us see that too!
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9:01 - 9:03(Video) Robot voice:
Are you Layli Tutunzin? -
9:03 - 9:04Woman: Yes!
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9:04 - 9:07Layli Tutunzin, are you doing well today?
Woman: Yes! -
9:07 - 9:10Robot voice: Well, let me tell you
some updated news -
9:10 - 9:13from the world of technology.
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9:15 - 9:17NM: Here it is giving customised news.
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9:19 - 9:20Robot voice: That's great!
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9:20 - 9:22NM: It has recognised the face
of the person. -
9:25 - 9:28Robot voice: Layli, do you know
that our friend, Panos Tulli, -
9:28 - 9:30has posted a new photo
in the photo album? -
9:30 - 9:31Woman: No.
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9:32 - 9:35Robot voice: I am sending you
an inbox message about this. -
9:35 - 9:37NM: Talking about common friends.
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9:37 - 9:40RV: One of our common friends,
Panos Tulli, is online. -
9:40 - 9:42Would you like to send
a message to our friend? -
9:42 - 9:46NM: It can connect people, one of which
is online, the other physically there, -
9:46 - 9:48even get people to know one another.
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9:48 - 9:51RV: I remember when we talked
this morning and I had asked you -
9:51 - 9:53"Are you doing well today?"
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9:53 - 9:54And you were doing well
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9:54 - 9:57and we talked a little about Chandan Data.
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9:57 - 10:01Layli, it was nice speaking to you!
Goodbye for now. -
10:01 - 10:05(Applause)
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10:08 - 10:09And then, the third example
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10:09 - 10:10after Sarah the Facebot
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10:10 - 10:14is Ibn Sina, which you very
briefly saw in the beginning. -
10:15 - 10:18And here the purpose was
to create a shopping mall robot, -
10:18 - 10:22or a museum robot,
or even an Interactive theatre actor. -
10:22 - 10:25And this robot actually spoke with
thousands of people as you shall see. -
10:27 - 10:31A lot of degrees of freedom in the face,
it can have facial expressions. -
10:32 - 10:34(Video) Man: Salam Aleikum! Marhaba.
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10:34 - 10:36NM: A simple dialogue system in Arabic.
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10:43 - 10:44It even does the greeting
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10:44 - 10:47of the Khaliji greeting. Haha!
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10:49 - 10:51Robot: Hazin: sadness.
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10:52 - 10:55NM: And it can take facial expressions
corresponding to emotions. -
10:55 - 10:57Sadness.
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10:59 - 11:01Robot: Elpostir: disbelief.
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11:02 - 11:03NM: Disbelief.
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11:06 - 11:08Robot: Motahamas: Excited.
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11:09 - 11:11NM: And excitement!
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11:12 - 11:15(Laughter)
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11:15 - 11:18As you can imagine
this got a lot of publicity, -
11:18 - 11:21so just a small sample follows:
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11:23 - 11:25This is Agence France Press.
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11:25 - 11:27(Video: Speaking in French)
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11:27 - 11:28Dubai TV.
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11:28 - 11:31Thirty countries around the world.
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11:35 - 11:36Netherlands.
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11:37 - 11:39And then the robot also went
to shopping malls and exhibitions -
11:39 - 11:42and spoke with around 3000 people.
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11:42 - 11:46And it also flew on Emirates Airlines
to Saudi Arabia, -
11:46 - 11:49invited by the Minister of Education
of Saudi. -
11:51 - 11:53And here he is very happy.
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11:53 - 11:55And in the end the letter that he wrote
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11:55 - 11:58to Sheikh Nahayan
bin Mubarak of the Emirates. -
11:59 - 12:02(Applause)
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12:05 - 12:08So all of these three examples
that I showed to you -
12:08 - 12:10were examples of interaction
between pairs: -
12:10 - 12:12a human and a robot,
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12:12 - 12:13speaking with one another.
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12:14 - 12:17The next stage is group interaction,
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12:17 - 12:20and in this case we have a group
of two robots and two humans -
12:20 - 12:22from the NASA Robonaut Project.
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12:22 - 12:26And after that, what we reach
is what one could call -
12:27 - 12:30in Layman's terms "superorganisms"
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12:30 - 12:32that could have thousands
of humans and machines, -
12:32 - 12:36connected tightly to one another,
and sharing their eyes and hands, -
12:37 - 12:39and brains, if you want.
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12:39 - 12:41But what do I mean exactly by that?
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12:41 - 12:43Let me give you an example.
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12:43 - 12:46These are ten red balloons;
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12:46 - 12:48they are about I think
five meters in diameter, -
12:48 - 12:53and they were placed in random locations
around the United States in 2009 -
12:53 - 12:56as part of a DARPA research program:
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12:56 - 12:59this was the network challenge,
as they called it. -
12:59 - 13:02And the goal of the teams
that were taking part in the competition -
13:02 - 13:05for these balloons
which were University teams -
13:05 - 13:07was to find a way to find them.
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13:07 - 13:09And they could use whatever they want:
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13:09 - 13:11they could use humans,
they could use satellites, -
13:11 - 13:12they could use machines.
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13:12 - 13:14So the team that
was actually able to win -
13:14 - 13:17which came from the MIT Media Lab,
where I did my PhD too, -
13:18 - 13:20used - what do you think?
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13:20 - 13:22Social networks.
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13:22 - 13:26So they used social networks in order
to get to recruit thousands of people -
13:26 - 13:31who pretty much spent ten seconds
of their time lending their eyes -
13:31 - 13:34and their brain to the system
to look around -
13:34 - 13:36and check if they see a balloon.
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13:36 - 13:40And then, through the thousands
of eyes that contributed to the system -
13:40 - 13:42they were able to find them
in a very, very [short] time. -
13:42 - 13:44Of course you can extend this.
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13:44 - 13:47You can get people give part of their
brain abilities -
13:47 - 13:48as services to the system.
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13:48 - 13:49They can be translating text,
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13:49 - 13:50they can be planning,
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13:50 - 13:52they can be doing operations.
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13:52 - 13:54And if you bring all of this together,
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13:54 - 13:57then you get something that
is much more similar, if you want, -
13:57 - 14:00to this dance of the reincarnation
of the Buddha that they have in China. -
14:02 - 14:05So enough with interactive robots
and the human-robot cloud. -
14:05 - 14:07Now let me go
to the third part of the talk, -
14:07 - 14:09and talk to you about the answer
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14:09 - 14:10to the following question:
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14:10 - 14:12how can we harness
the collective mind of citizens -
14:12 - 14:18in order to be able to bring forth
effective participatory governance? -
14:19 - 14:23Both in Ancient Athens as well as
in Islam and many other cultures -
14:23 - 14:26one of the prime elements of politics
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14:27 - 14:28is "consultation" or "Shura"
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14:28 - 14:30as it's usually called.
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14:30 - 14:34The big issue though with Shura
is that it works at the level of a village -
14:34 - 14:38but how can you extend this
to the multi-million-people nations -
14:38 - 14:41that we have today?
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14:41 - 14:42This is a big problem,
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14:42 - 14:45but this is exactly
the opportunity in terms of technology -
14:45 - 14:48for the first time in the
history of humanity to try to do it. -
14:48 - 14:51And a prime example of this,
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14:51 - 14:52is what his Excellency
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14:52 - 14:56Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid
has done in Dubai, -
14:56 - 14:58in which through
the UAE Brainstorm program, -
14:58 - 15:03he brought about ten thousand
of his citizens to contribute -
15:03 - 15:08to the reformation of the
education program of the Emirates -
15:08 - 15:12by sending messages through Twitter
and through the Internet. -
15:12 - 15:15And there are many cases
in which electronic consultation -
15:15 - 15:18can really help bring forth new ideas
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15:18 - 15:21and can really help people
participate in what is happening. -
15:21 - 15:25There are cases though where
it is important to, if you want, -
15:25 - 15:27get the physical element come in there.
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15:27 - 15:29That's why, as part of my involvement
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15:29 - 15:32in “Recreate Greece", which is
a citizens movement in Greece, -
15:32 - 15:37I planned and organised hybrid
electronic and physical workshops -
15:37 - 15:40for consultation, in which again
we had many citizens of Greece -
15:40 - 15:42coming together and brainstorming
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15:42 - 15:46in order to plan for the
Renaissance of Greece after the crisis. -
15:46 - 15:49And the important thing
about the physical element -
15:49 - 15:51which you cannot find too easily
in the electronic -
15:51 - 15:53is the fact that you can have
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15:53 - 15:56real friendships
taking place in this meeting, -
15:56 - 16:01and also the citizens that get involved
later start group action together. -
16:01 - 16:06So you actually get volunteer groups too
that really do things and not just talk. -
16:06 - 16:08And there are many other technologies
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16:08 - 16:09that have become available right now
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16:09 - 16:11to be able to enhance governance,
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16:11 - 16:14that are based on this collective
mind of the people, if you want. -
16:14 - 16:16There is liquid representation,
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16:16 - 16:17there is participatory budgeting,
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16:17 - 16:19there are online petitions,
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16:19 - 16:20and much more that you can easily find
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16:20 - 16:24if you see for example the World
Forum of Democracy in Strasbourg. -
16:25 - 16:26Also, there are many new technologies
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16:26 - 16:29regarding being able
to analyse public opinion. -
16:29 - 16:33In a project that we started in my lab
recently, we actually fetched -
16:33 - 16:37150.000 tweets that were related
to the ObamaCare website -
16:37 - 16:39and how people reacted to it.
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16:39 - 16:41And we were able to find out
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16:41 - 16:44who the main influencers were,
what the spheres of influence were, -
16:44 - 16:46what the communication dynamics were,
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16:46 - 16:48how the sentiment of the people
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16:48 - 16:49was coming up and down over time,
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16:49 - 16:53and how this whole thing was related
to what was happening out there -
16:53 - 16:56in terms of government announcements
and the real project progress. -
16:56 - 17:00And you were even able to actually get
predictions from what is happening, -
17:00 - 17:02through this analysis of public opinion.
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17:03 - 17:08Thus, in the green smart
cities of the future, -
17:09 - 17:13it's not just the infrastructure
that will be intelligent -
17:13 - 17:16and the buildings,
and environmentally friendly. -
17:16 - 17:19One of the most important elements
we think in that respect is to be able -
17:19 - 17:24to harness both the skills and the mind
and the opinions of all of the citizens -
17:25 - 17:27in order to help governance,
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17:27 - 17:31and in order to help them
make their dreams come true. -
17:34 - 17:36Thus, we have gone a long way.
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17:36 - 17:39I started by talking about lifeless matter
and went all the way -
17:39 - 17:40to robots interacting with humans.
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17:40 - 17:42Then we talked about
individual intelligence -
17:42 - 17:44and collective intelligence.
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17:44 - 17:47And finally, we asked about
the collective mind of the citizens -
17:47 - 17:50and how it can help
in the new cities of the future. -
17:52 - 17:56Let me thus just close
with a vision of the future. -
17:56 - 18:00Imagine a world in which humans, robots,
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18:00 - 18:03and all other intelligent
and natural entities -
18:03 - 18:07that will make up the complex biological
and artificial ecosystem of tomorrow, -
18:07 - 18:12will co-exist in peace,
harmony, and mutual benefit, -
18:12 - 18:16and in which through
our participation in larger entities -
18:16 - 18:22we will able to reach a much more
deep collective self-actualization. -
18:22 - 18:24And finally, imagine a world,
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18:24 - 18:28in which through
the collective mind of the citizens, -
18:28 - 18:32we will be able not only to have
effective participatory governance, -
18:32 - 18:36but most importantly,
we will help preserve and enjoy -
18:36 - 18:38our most beautiful planet,
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18:38 - 18:39its biosphere,
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18:39 - 18:41and Mother Earth.
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18:41 - 18:43(Applause)
- Title:
- Robots, Collective Intelligence, and Participatory Governance: Nikolaos Mavridis at TEDxCarthage
- Description:
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After a short history of intelligence on the planet Earth, starting from the first organisms and arriving at intelligent robots, the talk provides examples of various kinds of robots that interact with humans. Then, it touches upon the future of hybrid human-machine collective intelligence, and after discussing new technologies regarding participatory governance, arrives at a vision for the green smart cities of the future.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 18:54