What your designs say about you
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Not SyncedWe are today talking about moral persuasion.
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Not SyncedWhat is moral and immoral
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Not Syncedin trying to change people's behaviors
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Not SyncedAnd I don't know what you expect,
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Not Syncedbut when I was thinking about that issue,
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Not SyncedI early on realized
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Not Syncedwhat I'm not able to give you are answers.
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Not SyncedI'm not able to tell you what is moral or immoral
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Not Syncedbecause we're living in a pluralist society.
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Not SyncedMy values can be radically different
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Not Syncedfrom your values.
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Not SyncedWhich means that what I consider moral or immoral based on that
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Not Syncedmight not necessarily be what you consider moral or immoral.
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Not SyncedBut I also realized that there's one thing that I could give you.
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Not SyncedAnd that is what this guy behind me gave the world --
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Not SyncedSocrates.
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Not SyncedIt is questions.
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Not SyncedWhat I can do and what I would like to do with you
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Not Syncedis give you, like that initial question,
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Not Synceda set of questions
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Not Syncedto figure out for yourself,
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Not Syncedlayer by layer,
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Not Syncedlike peeling an onion,
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Not Syncedgetting at the core of what you believe
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Not Syncedis moral or immoral persuasion.
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Not SyncedAnd I'd like to do that with a couple of examples
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Not Syncedof technologies where people have used game elements
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Not SyncedSo it's a very simple, a very obvious question
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Not SyncedI would like to give you:
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Not SyncedWhat are your intentions if you are designing something?
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Not SyncedAnd obviously intentions are not the only thing,
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Not Syncedso here is another example for one of these applications.
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Not SyncedThere are a couple of these kinds of eco-dashboards right now --
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Not Syncedso dashboards built into cars
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Not SyncedThis year is Nissan's Leaf
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Not Syncedwhere you driving behavior is compared
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Not SyncedAnd these things are very effective, it turns out,
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Not Syncedso effective that they motivate people
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Not Syncedto engage in safe driving behaviors --
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Not Syncedlike not stopping on a red headlight.
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Not Syncedand that would use quite some fuel, wouldn't it.
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Not SyncedSo despite this being a very well intended application,
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Not Syncedobviously there was a side-effect of that.
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Not SyncedAnd here's another example for one of these side-effects.
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Not SyncedCommendable:
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Not Synceda site that allows parents to give their kids little badges
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Not Syncedlike tying their shoes.
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Not SyncedAnd at first that sounds very nice,
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Not SyncedBut it turns out, if you look into research on people's mindset,
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Not Syncedcaring about these kinds of public tokens of recognition
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Not Syncedfor you long-term psychological well-being.
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Not SyncedIt's better if you care about learning something.
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Not SyncedIt's better when you care about yourself
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Not Syncedthan how you appear in front of other people.
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Not SyncedSo that kind of motivational tool that is used
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Not Syncedthat uses something like public recognition or status,
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Not SyncedThat way possibly having a detrimental effect
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Not Syncedon the long-term psychological well-being of ourselves as a culture.
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Not SyncedSo that's a second, very obvious question.
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Not SyncedWhat are the effects of what's you're doing?
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Not SyncedThe effects that you're having with the device,
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Not Syncedlike less fuel,
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Not Syncedto get people to do things --
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Not Syncedpublic recognition.
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Not SyncedNow is that all -- intention, effect?
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Not SyncedWell there are some technologies
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Not Syncedand a positive intention like Fred Stutzman's Freedom,
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Not Syncedis well we're usually so bombarded
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Not Syncedwith this device you can shut off the internet connectivity
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Not Syncedof you PC of choice for a preset amount of time
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Not Syncedto actually get some work done.
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Not SyncedAnd I think most of us will agree,
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Not SyncedIn the words of Michel Foucault,
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Not SyncedIt is a technology that empowers the individual
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Not SyncedAs you see in today's modern liberal democracies,
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Not SyncedIt demands that we optimize ourselves,
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Not SyncedThese technologies want us to stay in the game
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Not SyncedThey want us to fit in even better.
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Not SyncedThey want us to optimize our selves to fit in.
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Not SyncedNow I don't say that is necessarily a bad thing.
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Not SyncedI just think that this example
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Not Syncedpoints us to a general realization,
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Not Syncedeven something we consider as well-intended and as good in its effects --
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Not SyncedWe can question: Is it a good thing
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Not Syncedto fit better into that society?
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Not SyncedWhat about a piece of persuasive technology
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- Title:
- What your designs say about you
- Speaker:
- Sebastian Deterding
- Description:
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What does your chair say about what you value? Designer Sebastian Deterding shows how our visions of morality and what the good life is are reflected in the design of objects around us.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 12:23
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Krystian Aparta
The English transcript was updated on 10/17/2016.