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Starving cancer: Dominic D'Agostino at TEDxTampaBay

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    Navy SEAL divers are the best
    at what they do.
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    But they have a problem
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    that limits their ability
    to do their mission.
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    Our research focused
    on solving the problem
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    and it led to an unexpected
    path of discovery
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    for neurological diseases and cancer.
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    The problem results
    from the specialized equipment
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    that the Navy SEAL divers use,
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    including the oxygen rebreather.
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    The advantage of the rebreather
    is that there are no bubbles
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    so it's very quiet
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    and helps the SEAL
    evade detection from the enemy.
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    The disadvantage
    of the oxygen rebreather is
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    that the high levels of oxygen
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    and the pressure
    from the undersea environment
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    causes a potential for a seizure.
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    These seizures occur
    with little or no warning
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    and there is no effective
    mitigation strategy to prevent them.
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    So the question we ask is
    why do the seizures occur
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    and how can we prevent them.
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    To answer this question required funding
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    from the Office of Naval Research
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    to develop a microscope
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    that was installed
    inside a hyperbaric chamber,
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    or a high-pressure chamber.
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    This chamber could simulate
    the underwater environment
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    and the pressure
    of the underwater environment.
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    Using this technology
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    we demonstrated
    that neurons in the brain,
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    when subjected to high pressure
    and high oxygen,
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    are overstimulated.
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    The overstimulation of the brain
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    from the high oxygen and pressure
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    causes a decrease
    in brain energy metabolism.
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    When this happens,
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    it causes the potential for a seizure.
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    These oxygen seizures occur
    with little or no warning
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    and there is no effective way
    to prevent them.
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    These drug resistant seizures
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    are similar to epilepsy patients
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    that have drug resistant seizures,
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    and in the case of patients
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    they can use a special diet
    to prevent these seizures.
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    One example of the patient
    who used diet is Mike Dancer.
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    Mike used a variety of antiseizure
    medication,
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    and the medication caused
    severe side effects
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    and was not able to control his seizures.
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    So, due to the severe side effects
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    Mike stopped
    all the antiseizure medication
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    and when he did it, he saw an increase
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    in his seizure frequency.
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    At about this time Mike discovered
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    there was is a dietary intervention,
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    that he could use to control his seizures.
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    And when he did it,
    he found a sharp decrease
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    in his seizure frequency.
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    I'm happy to say that Mike
    has been on the diet
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    for 5 years now,
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    and he's been managing his epilepsy
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    for 5 years without medication.
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    So what is the ketogenic diet?
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    Compared to a normal diet,
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    the ketogenic diet
    is very low in carbohydrates
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    and it's very high in fat.
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    People have used the diet for years
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    to help them regulate their body weight,
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    reduce their body weight,
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    and control or reduce
    their blood glucose levels.
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    But most importantly,
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    the ketogenic diet is proven
    to control seizures,
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    when drugs fail.
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    No organization has done more
    to educate the public
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    about therapeutic potential
    of the ketogenic diet
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    than The Charlie Foundation
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    started by Hollywood producer
    Jim Abrahams.
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    Jim's son Charlie
    was stricken with seizures.
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    They were so severe
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    and no amount of drugs could help him.
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    So Jim looked into alternative approaches
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    to manage his son's seizures.
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    And with his research he discovered
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    that the ketogenic diet was being used
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    at Johns Hopkins Hospital,
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    so it was a treatment that was used
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    specifically for pediatric epilepsy.
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    So Jim took Charlie
    to Johns Hopkins Hospital
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    and they worked pretty closely
    with a dietician there,
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    and within a short amount of time
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    Charlie's seizures were under control.
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    And Charlie was actually
    cured of his epilepsy
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    at Johns Hopkins Hospital
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    with the use of the ketogenic diet.
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    So Charlie is actually off the diet
    completely today,
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    and he remains seizure-free.
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    The ketogenic diet is effective
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    for a variety of neurological disorders
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    including Glucose Transporter
    Type 1 Deficiency Syndrome.
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    Children with this disorder
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    lack the ability to transport
    glucose into the brain.
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    So their brains are literally
    starved of glucose
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    and this causes a potential for seizures.
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    So it's known that, you know,
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    the brain can use glucose
    as the primary fuel,
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    but it can readily adapt
    to using ketones for energy.
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    So in this way the brain
    is like a hybrid engine, right?
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    So it uses glucose as the primary fuel
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    but during periods
    of limited glucose availability
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    the brain can readily adapt
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    to using this alternative fuel source.
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    So we are exploiting
    the neuroprotective effects of ketones
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    by developing ketone supplements
    for the Navy SEAL divers
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    for oxygen seizures.
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    So the advantage
    of the ketone supplement is
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    that you can circumvent
    the need for the dietary restriction
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    that's required to elevate and sustain
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    blood levels of ketones.
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    There are many therapeutic
    applications of ketones
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    because nearly all healthy cells in a body
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    can use ketones for fuel
    as an alternative energy source.
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    Surprisingly, cancer cells
    lack the ability to transition
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    from using glucose for fuel
    to using ketones.
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    So, in a way, cancer cells are like
    damaged hybrid engines.
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    They use large amounts of glucose
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    much more than healthy cells,
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    and they lack this ability
    to transition over
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    to an alternative fuel source.
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    So we can say that "sugar addiction"
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    is really the Achilles heel
    of cancer cells.
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    This observation inspired me in the lab,
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    and I asked a question, I wondered,
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    why very little attention
    was being given to nutrition
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    to exploit this weakness of cancer cells.
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    So, it turns out that the sugar addiction
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    was actually observed over 80 years ago
    by Otto Warburg.
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    So, Otto Warburg did experiments,
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    he won a Nobel prize
    for these experiments,
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    demonstrating that [cancer] cells
    are damaged in their metabolism
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    and the damage in their metabolism
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    results in high amounts of sugar uptake.
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    More recently, Thomas Seyfried
    from Boston College
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    has been a pioneer, really,
    in validating Warburg's hypothesis
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    and proving that cancer
    is a metabolic disease.
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    In Tom's experiments, he demonstrated
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    that there is a specific,
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    metabolic defect of cancer cells
    as glucose dependency,
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    and that we can target that
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    with a variety of non-toxic
    alternative approaches.
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    Oncologists target this weakness
    in cancer cells,
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    which is excess glucose consumption,
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    with something called a FGD-PET Scan.
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    The PET Scan actually shows
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    the excess consumption
    of glucose in cancer cells
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    relative to the healthy tissues
    surrounding it.
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    So this allows for the imaging
    of excess glucose consumption
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    that oncologists use.
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    But this information really isn't used
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    to exploit the cancer
    for a treatment modality.
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    The excess glucose consumption
    of cancer cells
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    allows them to thrive and proliferate
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    in a low oxygen environment.
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    Another interesting observation
    that we made in the lab
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    is that high pressures of oxygen
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    are actually damaging to cancer cells.
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    We've demonstrated
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    that when high levels of oxygen
    are given to cancer cells
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    that they overproduce
    oxygen free radicals,
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    and these are damaging
    to the cell membrane.
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    At high magnification we can observe
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    bumps on the surface of the membrane
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    that are indicative of membrane damage.
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    What's most interesting is
    that the same level of oxygen
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    that damaged the cancer cells
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    was non-toxic to the healthy brain cells.
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    These observations inspired us to test
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    the combination of the ketogenic diet
    and hyperbaric oxygen
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    in a mouse model of metastatic cancer.
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    The glowing regions on the screen,
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    show the growth and the spread
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    of metastatic cancer cells.
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    This study demonstrated
    the therapeutic efficacy
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    of a new, non-toxic, alternative approach
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    to cancer management.
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    So what started out
    as a Navy SEAL project
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    and then led to a promising
    mitigation strategy
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    for the oxygen seizures
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    in the form of ketone supplements
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    ultimately led us down a path
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    to this unexpected discovery.
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    So the question is,
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    can we manage cancer
    with non-toxic strategies?
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    I believe that we can.
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    And I've been inspired
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    by a number of seizure patients
    and cancer patients
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    that have used these alternative methods
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    to manage their incurable diseases.
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    Future treatments and prevention
    of many diseases
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    may fall back on the ancient
    wisdom of Hippocrates,
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    when he said, "Let food be thy medicine."
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Starving cancer: Dominic D'Agostino at TEDxTampaBay
Description:

While studying the effects of gasses on the brains of Navy Seal divers, Dr. D'Agostino developed an approach for metabolically starving cancer cells through diet and compressed oxygen, replacing chemotherapy, surgery, or radiation.

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