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Which country does the most good for the world?

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    I've been thinking a lot about the world recently
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    and how it's changed over the last 20, 30, 40 years.
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    Twenty or 30 years ago,
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    if a chicken caught a cold and sneezed and died
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    in a remote village in east Asia,
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    it would have been a tragedy for the chicken
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    and its closest relatives,
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    but I don't think there was much possibility
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    of us fearing a global pandemic
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    and the deaths of millions.
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    Twenty or 30 years ago, if a bank in North America
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    lent too much money to some people
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    who couldn't afford to pay it back
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    and the bank went bust,
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    that was bad for the lender
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    and bad for the borrower,
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    but we didn't imagine it would bring
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    the global economic system to its knees
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    for nearly a decade.
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    This is globalization.
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    This is the miracle that has enabled us
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    to transship our bodies and our minds
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    and our words and our pictures and our ideas
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    and our teaching and our learning around the planet
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    ever faster and ever cheaper.
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    It's brought a lot of bad stuff,
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    like the stuff that I just described,
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    but it's also brought a lot of good stuff.
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    A lot of us are not aware
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    of the extraordinary successes of
    the Millennium Development Goals,
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    several of which have achieved their targets
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    long before the due date.
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    That proves that this species of humanity
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    is capable of achieving extraordinary progress
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    if it really acts together and it really tries hard.
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    But if I had to put it in a nutshell these days,
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    I sort of feel that globalization
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    has taken us by surprise,
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    and we've been slow to respond to it.
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    If you look at the downside of globalization,
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    it really does seem to be sometimes overwhelming.
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    All of the grand challenges that we face today,
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    like climate change and human rights
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    and demographics and terrorism and pandemics
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    and narco-trafficking and human slavery
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    and species loss, I could go on,
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    we're not making an awful lot of progress
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    against an awful lot of those challenges.
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    So in a nutshell, that's the challenge
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    that we all face today
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    at this interesting point in history.
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    That's clearly what we've got to do next.
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    We've somehow got to get our act together
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    and we've got to figure out how to globalize
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    the solutions better
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    so that we don't simply become a species
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    which is a victim of the globalization of problems.
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    Why are we so slow at achieving these advances?
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    What's the reason for it?
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    Well, there are of course a number of reasons,
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    but perhaps the primary reason
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    is because we're still organized as a species
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    in the same way that we were organized
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    two or three hundred years ago.
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    There's one superpower left on the planet
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    and that is the seven billion people,
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    the seven billion of us who cause all these problems,
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    the same seven billion, by the way,
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    who will resolve them all.
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    But how are those seven billion organized?
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    They're still organized in 200 or so nation-states,
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    and the nations have governments
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    that make rules
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    and cause us to behave in certain ways.
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    And that's a pretty efficient system,
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    but the problem is that the
    way that those laws are made
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    and the way those governments think
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    is absolutely wrong for the
    solution of global problems,
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    because it all looks inwards.
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    The politicians that we elect
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    and the politicians we don't elect, on the whole,
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    have minds that microscope.
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    They don't have minds that telescope.
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    They look in. They pretend, they behave,
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    as if they believed that every country was an island
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    that existed quite happily, independently
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    of all the others
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    on its own little planet
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    in its own little solar system.
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    This is the problem:
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    countries competing against each other,
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    countries fighting against each other.
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    This week, as any week you care to look at,
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    you'll find people actually trying to kill
    each other from country to country,
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    but even when that's not going on,
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    there's competition between countries,
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    each one trying to shaft the next.
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    This is clearly not a good arrangement.
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    We clearly need to change it.
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    We clearly need to find ways
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    of encouraging countries to start working together
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    a little bit better.
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    And why won't they do that?
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    Why is it our leaders still persist in looking inwards?
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    Well, the first and most obvious reason
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    is because that's what we ask them to do.
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    That's what we tell them to do.
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    When we elect governments
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    or when we tolerate unelected governments,
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    we're effectively telling them that what we want
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    is for them to deliver us in our country
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    a certain number of things.
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    We want them to deliver prosperity,
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    growth, competitiveness, transparency, justice,
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    and all of those things.
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    So unless we start asking our governments
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    to think outside a little bit,
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    to consider the global problems that will finish us all
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    if we don't start considering them,
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    then we can hardly blame them
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    if what they carry on doing is looking inwards,
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    if they still have minds that microscope
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    rather than minds that telescope.
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    That's the first reason why
    things tend not to change.
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    The second reason is that these governments,
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    just like all the rest of us,
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    are cultural psychopaths.
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    I don't mean to be rude,
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    but you know what a psychopath is.
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    A psychopath is a person who,
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    unfortunately for him or her,
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    lacks the ability to really empathize
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    with other human beings.
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    When they look around,
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    they don't see other human beings
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    with deep, rich, three-dimensional personal lives
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    and aims and ambitions.
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    What they see is cardboard cutouts,
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    and it's very sad and it's very lonely,
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    and it's very rare, fortunately.
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    But actually, aren't most of us
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    not really so very good at empathy?
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    Oh sure, we're very good at empathy
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    when it's a question of dealing with people
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    who kind of look like us
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    and kind of walk and talk and eat and pray
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    and wear like us,
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    but when it comes to people who don't do that,
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    who don't quite dress like us
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    and don't quite pray like us
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    and don't quite talk like us,
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    do we not also have a tendency to see them
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    ever so slightly as cardboard cutouts too?
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    And this is a question we need to ask ourselves.
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    I think constantly we have to monitor it.
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    Are we and our politicians to a degree
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    cultural psychopaths?
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    The third reason is hardly worth mentioning,
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    because it's so silly,
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    but there's a belief amongst governments
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    that the domestic agenda
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    and the international agenda
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    are incompatible and always will be.
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    This is just nonsense.
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    In my day job, I'm a policy advisor.
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    I've spent the last 15 years or so
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    advising governments around the world,
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    and in all that time I have never once seen
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    a single domestic policy issue
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    that could not be more imaginatively,
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    effectively, and rapidly resolved
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    than by treating it as an international problem,
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    looking at the international context,
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    comparing what others have done,
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    bringing in others, working externally
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    instead of working internally.
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    And so you may say, well, given all of that,
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    why then doesn't it work?
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    Why can we not make our politicians change?
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    Why can't we demand them?
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    Well I, like a lot of us, spend
    a lot of time complaining
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    about how hard it is to make people change,
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    and I don't think we should fuss about it.
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    I think we should just accept
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    that we are an inherently conservative species.
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    We don't like to change.
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    It exists for very sensible evolutionary reasons.
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    We probably wouldn't still be here today
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    if we weren't so resistant to change.
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    It's very simple: many thousands of years ago,
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    we discovered that if we carried on
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    doing the same things, we wouldn't die,
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    because the things that we'd done before
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    by definition didn't kill us,
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    and therefore as long as we carry on doing them,
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    we'll be okay,
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    and it's very sensible not to do anything new,
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    because it might kill you.
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    But of course, there are exceptions to that.
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    Otherwise, we'd never get anywhere.
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    And one of the exceptions, the interesting exception,
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    is when you can show to people
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    that there might be some self-interest
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    in them making that leap of faith
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    and changing a little bit.
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    So I've spent a lot of the last 10 or 15 years
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    trying to find out what could be that self-interest
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    that would encourage not just politicians
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    but also businesses and general populations,
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    all of us, start to think a little more outwardly,
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    to think in a bigger picture,
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    not always to look inwards,
    sometimes to look outwards.
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    And this is where I discovered
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    something quite important.
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    In 2005, I launched a study
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    called the Nations Brands Index.
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    What it is, it's a very large scale study that polls
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    a very large sample of the world's population,
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    a sample that represents about 70 percent
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    of the planet's population,
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    and I started asking them a series of questions
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    about how they perceive other countries.
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    And the Nation Brands Index over the years
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    has grown to be a very, very large database.
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    It's about 200 billion data points
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    tracking what ordinary people
    think about other countries
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    and why.
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    Why did I do this? Well, because
    the governments that I advise
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    are very, very keen on knowing
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    how they are regarded.
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    They've known, partly because
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    I've encouraged them to realize it,
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    that countries depend
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    enormously on their reputations
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    in order to survive and prosper in the world.
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    If a country has a great, positive image,
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    like Germany has or Sweden or Switzerland,
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    everything is easy and everything is cheap.
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    You get more tourists. You get more investors.
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    You sell your products more expensively.
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    If, on the other hand, you have a country
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    with a very weak or a very negative image,
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    everything is difficult and everything is expensive.
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    So governments care desperately
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    about the image of their country,
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    because it makes a direct difference
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    to how much money they can make,
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    and that's what they've promised their populations
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    they're going to deliver.
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    So a couple of years ago, I thought I would take
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    some time out and speak to that gigantic database
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    and ask it
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    why do some people prefer one country
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    more than another.
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    And the answer that the database gave me
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    completely staggered me.
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    It was 6.8.
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    I haven't got time to explain in detail.
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    Basically what it told me was
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    — (Laughter) (Applause) —
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    the kinds of countries we prefer are good countries.
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    We don't admire countries
    primarily because they're rich,
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    because they're powerful,
    because they're successful,
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    because they're modern, because
    they're technologically advanced.
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    We primarily admire countries that are good.
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    What do we mean by good?
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    We mean countries that seem to contribute
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    something to the world in which we live,
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    countries that actually make the world safer
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    or better or richer or fairer.
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    Those are the countries we like.
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    This is a discovery of significant importance
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    — you see where I'm going —
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    because it squares the circle.
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    I can now say, and often do, to any government,
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    in order to do well, you need to do good.
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    If you want to sell more products,
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    if you want to get more investment,
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    if you want to become more competitive,
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    then you need to start behaving,
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    because that's why people will respect you
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    and do business with you,
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    and therefore, the more you collaborate,
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    the more competitive you become.
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    This is quite an important discovery,
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    and as soon as I discovered this,
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    I felt another index coming on.
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    I swear that as I get older, my ideas become simpler
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    and more and more childish.
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    This one is called the Good Country Index
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    — (Applause) —
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    and it does exactly what it says on the tin.
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    It measures, or at least it tries to measure,
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    exactly how much each country on earth contributes
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    not to its own population but to the rest of humanity.
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    Bizarrely, nobody had ever thought
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    of measuring this before.
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    So my colleague Dr. Robert Govers and I have spent
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    the best part of the last two years,
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    with the help of a large number
    of very serious and clever people,
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    cramming together all the reliable data in the world
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    we could find about what countries give
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    to the world.
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    And you're waiting for me to
    tell you which one comes top.
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    And I'm going to tell you,
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    but first of all I want to tell you
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    precisely what I mean
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    when I say a good country.
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    I do not mean morally good.
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    When I say that Country X
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    is the goodest country on earth,
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    and I mean goodest, I don't mean best.
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    Best is something different.
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    When you're talking about a good country,
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    you can be good, gooder, and goodest.
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    It's not the same thing as good, better, and best.
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    This is a country which simply gives more
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    to humanity than any other country.
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    I don't talk about how they behave at home
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    because that's measured elsewhere.
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    And the winner is
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    Ireland.
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    (Applause)
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    According to the data here,
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    no country on earth per head of population,
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    per dollar of GDP, contributes more
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    to the world that we live in than Ireland.
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    What does this mean?
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    This means that as we go to sleep at night,
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    all of us in the last 15 seconds
    before we drift off to sleep,
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    our final thought should be,
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    Godammit I'm glad that Ireland exists.
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    (Laughter)
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    And that — (Applause) —
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    in the depths of a very severe economic recession.
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    I think that there's a really important lesson there,
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    that if you can remember
    your international obligations
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    whilst you are trying to rebuild your own economy,
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    that's really something.
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    Finland ranks pretty much the same.
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    The only reason why it's below Ireland
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    is because its lowest score is
    lower than Ireland's lowest score.
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    Now the other thing you'll
    notice about the top 10 there
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    is of course they're all, apart from New Zealand,
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    Western European nations.
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    They're also all rich.
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    This depressed me,
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    because one of the things that I did not want
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    to discover with this index
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    is that it's purely the province of rich countries
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    to help poor countries.
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    This is not what it's all about.
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    And indeed, if you look further down the list,
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    I don't have the slide here, you will see
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    something that made me very happy indeed,
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    that Kenya is in the top 30,
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    and that demonstrates one
    very, very important thing.
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    This is not about money.
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    This is about attitude.
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    This is about culture.
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    This is about a government and a people that care
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    about the rest of the world
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    and have the imagination and the courage
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    to think outwards instead of only thinking selfishly.
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    I'm going to whip through the other slides
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    just so you can see some
    of the lower-lying countries.
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    There's Germany at 13th, the U.S. comes 21st,
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    Mexico comes 66th,
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    and then we have some of
    the big developing countries
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    like Russia at 95th, China at 107th.
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    Countries like China and Russia and India,
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    which is down in the same sort of part of the index,
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    well, in some ways, it's not surprising.
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    They've spent a great deal of time
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    over the last decades building their own economy,
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    building their own society and their own polity,
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    but it is to be hoped
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    that the second phase of their growth
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    will be somewhat more outward-looking
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    than the first phase has been so far.
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    And then you can break down each country
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    in terms of the actual data sets that build into it.
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    I'll allow you to do that.
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    From midnight tonight it's going
    to be on goodcountry.org,
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    and you can look at the country.
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    You can look right down to the
    level of the individual data sets.
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    Now that's the Good Country Index.
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    What's it there for?
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    Well, it's there really because I want to try
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    to introduce this word,
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    or reintroduce this word, into the discourse.
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    I've had enough hearing about competitive countries.
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    I've had enough hearing about
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    prosperous, wealthy, fast-growing countries.
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    I've even had enough hearing about happy countries
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    because in the end that's still selfish.
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    That's still about us,
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    and if we carry on thinking about us,
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    we are in deep, deep trouble.
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    I think we all know what it is
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    that we want to hear about.
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    We want to hear about good countries,
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    and so I want to ask you all a favor.
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    I'm not asking a lot.
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    It's something that you might find easy to do
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    and you might even find enjoyable
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    and even helpful to do,
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    and that's simply to start using the word "good"
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    in this context.
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    When you think about your own country,
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    when you think about other people's countries,
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    when you think about companies,
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    when you talk about the world that we live in today,
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    start using that word
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    in the way that I've talked about this evening.
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    Not good, the opposite of bad,
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    because that's an argument that never finishes.
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    Good, the opposite of selfish,
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    good being a country that thinks about all of us.
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    That's what I would like you to do,
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    and I would like you to use it as a stick
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    with which to beat your politicians.
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    When you elect them, when you reelect them,
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    when you vote for them, when you listen
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    to what they're offering you,
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    use that word "good,"
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    and ask yourself,
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    "Is that what a good country would do?"
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    And if the answer is no, be very suspicious.
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    Ask yourself, is that the behavior
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    of my country?
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    Do I want to come from a country
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    where the government in my name
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    is doing things like that?
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    Or do I, on the other hand,
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    prefer the idea of walking around the world
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    with my head held high thinking, "Yeah,
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    I'm proud to come from a good country"?
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    And everybody will welcome you.
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    And everybody in the last 15 seconds
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    before they drift to sleep at night will say,
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    "Gosh, I'm glad that person's country exists."
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    Ultimately, that, I think,
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    is what will make the change.
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    That word "good"
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    and the number 6.8
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    and the discovery that's behind it
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    have changed my life.
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    I think they can change your life,
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    and I think we can use it to change
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    the way that our politicians
    and our companies behave,
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    and in doing so, we can change the world.
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    I've started thinking very differently about
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    my own country since I've been
    thinking about these things.
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    I used to think that I wanted to live in a rich country,
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    and then I started thinking I
    wanted to live in a happy country,
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    but I began to realize, it's not enough.
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    I don't want to live in a rich country.
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    I don't want to live in a fast-growing
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    or competitive country.
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    I want to live in a good country,
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    and I so, so hope that you do too.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Which country does the most good for the world?
Speaker:
Simon Anholt
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Video Language:
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Team:
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Duration:
17:54

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