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What is poverty? | Daniel Cerezo | TEDxRiodelaPlata

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    The first question I asked myself
    and I ask you too is:
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    What is poverty?
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    Maybe some of you imagine
    that poverty has to do with this,
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    and with living
    in a neighborhood like this.
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    And in fact, since I was a kid
    I believed that poverty,
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    or they made me understand
    that poverty had to do with this.
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    I am the fifth of six children:
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    Yomi, Mariela, Marcela,
    Mauricio, me, and Oscar.
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    We were born in San Juan. We came to
    Buenos Aires for the moon and the stars.
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    My father had been promised
    a job, a home, a car, success.
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    This is the only picture
    I have of my parents together.
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    Because Buenos Aires kills my father.
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    He ends up dying
    within a few years of being here.
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    And there it began an eternal struggle
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    to live with dignity
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    and to improve our quality of life.
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    We seized a plot with my brothers
    in the middle of a settlement.
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    We were poor,
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    people who were living
    in a usurped land.
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    We sometimes even didn't have
    anything to eat for dinner.
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    However, despite all this,
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    despite having lived
    through discrimination,
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    and my whole family
    being pointed out for many years,
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    there was something
    I always loved and I always liked.
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    I love music, I'm a musician.
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    And I really discovered music through
    a woman who when I listened to her
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    it was amazing for me.
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    I looked at her and
    she was like an angel.
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    I knew all her songs, all her lyrics,
    all her choreographies.
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    I learned all her songs,
    I had all her cassettes.
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    There were cassettes at that time.
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    And for me she was a star, an angel.
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    This woman was Gladys, la Bomba Tucumana.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    I dreamed with Gladys.
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    Once I told my mom:
    "Mom, I want to be Gladys."
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    (Laughter)
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    And she said: "Oh son, don't you like
    Antonio Ríos or Alcides?"
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    No, I wanted to be Gladys.
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    And my mom told me:
    "Well, but how about La Nueva Luna?"
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    No, I dreamed of being
    an artist like her one day.
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    I always dreamed with her.
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    I always dreamed of learning
    to play her songs.
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    A great friend from childhood, Edgardo,
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    his mother, Olga, worked
    in the neighborhood developing projects
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    so that people like me, who lived
    in these neighborhoods,
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    could study.
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    They had a project
    in Crear Vale La Pena Foundation,
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    in which they worked with art
    in the context of poverty.
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    My friend told me one day:
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    "Daniel, why don't you stop
    pestering around with music
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    and sign up in the
    community cultural center?,"
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    where they gave free keyboard
    and piano lessons.
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    I said: "No, me taking piano lessons?
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    Ridiculous. I have to go out
    and give a meaning to my life."
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    And he said to me: "But go,
    sign up for the piano class."
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    And I signed up for piano lessons.
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    Saturdays at 9 am.
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    I said, "Oh, how nice!"
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    In this Foundation there was
    a teacher, a concert pianist,
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    Liliana Alpern, who gave once a week
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    a couple of hours of free lessons
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    to people who could not
    pay for the class.
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    I went to her piano class
    when I was nine.
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    And I saw Lili, my piano teacher,
    in high heels, with a silk shawl,
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    glasses, green eyes, blond hair.
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    And I looked at her and she looked at me.
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    She said: "What is your name?"
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    "Daniel." "What are you doing here?"
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    There was an upright piano beside her.
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    I said, "I want to play that."
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    And she says: "What do you want to play?"
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    (Laughter)
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    And I said: "Gladys, la Bomba Tucumana."
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    (Laughter)
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    And she said: "Who is that woman?"
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    "What? Aren't you a music teacher?"
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    "Yes, I certainly am,
    but I don't know all the musicians.
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    But if you bring a tape with her music,
    I'll listen to it and I teach you."
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    "Really?" I said. "Yes."
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    I go to my house, grab the cassette,
    I bring it back and Lili began:
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    "B B B B B, C D, C D E,
    E F G, B C".
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    (Laughter)
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    And I said, wow!
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    She began to teach me and I felt
    I was John Lennon playing "Imagine."
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    (Applause)
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    So awesome.
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    Lili said: "Look Daniel,
    you can learn this and much more,
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    if you want to."
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    "Really, Miss?"
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    "Yes. You can learn
    everything you want to learn."
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    And the next Saturday I brought
    La Nueva Luna, Los Charros, Gilda.
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    I learned to play a band called
    Los Palmeras, I dreamed with Los Palmeras.
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    And she taught me all the music
    I wanted to learn.
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    Pretty soon, I had learned
    everything I wanted.
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    And Lili said, "And now,
    what do you want to learn?"
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    I said, "That's it, I've learned
    to play what I wanted to learn."
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    And she says: "Look, Daniel,
    with these same chords
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    there is a guy named Beethoven.
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    Do you know who Beethoven is?"
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    I told her: "Yes, a dog from a movie."
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    (Laughter)
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    "No, dear, Beethoven is not a dog.
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    Beethoven is a musician
    who plays 'Für Elise'".
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    And she showed me "Für Elise".
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    When I heard "Für Elise" I fell in love.
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    And I said, "Lili, can I play that?"
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    And Lili said, "You can play that
    and much more, Daniel.
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    Everything you want to play."
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    And there I learned at age nine
    to break with the first poverty.
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    That is the poverty of culture.
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    I just thought that music was...
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    (Applause)
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    I thought that music was
    what I heard in my neighborhood,
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    but I didn't know
    other kind of music existed.
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    So I learned to be not only
    a musician, but at age 14,
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    Lili puts me another challenge,
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    with a partner who we played
    the piano together, Marcela Tula,
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    the two attended her class.
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    "Now you, after five years of taking
    free classes at the cultural center,
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    must begin to teach others."
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    And I said, "No, me, Lili?
    I can't teach others".
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    "Yes, you can teach others."
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    "But Lili, I have nothing to give."
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    She said: "To give, you don't need
    to have something in your pocket.
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    All you have to do
    is to be willing to help others."
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    Then I started teaching
    in my neighborhood.
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    With Marcela, we both
    learned how to teach.
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    We gave classes to young people,
    the very beginners in the neighborhood.
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    I went from being the kid who hung
    in the street corner to mess up,
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    to be "the neighborhood's Professor".
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    I would pass by and people would say:
    "Professor, Professor".
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    Then I'd pass by like four times!
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    I'd go to the grocers and they would say:
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    "How are you, Professor? Take a candy".
    And I'd grab about five.
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    The grocer's daughter was my student.
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    And there I learned to knock down
    another poverty,
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    which is the poverty of dignity.
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    The poverty that is lost because,
    by living in the contexts we live,
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    we think that poverty only
    has to do with hunger,
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    and feeling cold at night, but no.
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    Poverty has little to do with economics.
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    It has to do with what you do
    to design your life project.
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    What you do to say who you are,
    regardless of the degree,
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    or the position you have in a company.
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    Who you are as a person.
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    And that is what I learned at age 14,
    to start teaching in my neighborhood.
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    When I was 17...
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    (Applause)
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    At age 17 I began to coordinate
    the community cultural center
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    with activities for young people.
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    It was not anymore
    just learning and teaching.
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    What we did with a group of young people
    was to form them and start thinking
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    about our community,
    how our neighborhood
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    could do activities
    to improve the quality of life,
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    not only of those who studied,
    but of our community.
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    We did events in neighborhoods,
    we celebrated Children's Day,
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    looking for the needs
    in our neighborhoods
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    and we began to improve,
    not only our lives,
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    but the lives of our neighbors.
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    At age 25 I leave this Foundation,
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    because I felt that in it
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    I had gone from student to teacher,
    coordinator, executive director,
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    I even prepared young people
    in political issues.
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    And I began to understand
    that I had to knock down another poverty.
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    Then I started working
    with a civil organization
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    called Inicia.
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    And what we did in Inicia
    was to work in a prison,
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    because the son of a friend of mine
    was there in the unit
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    and we went to visit him.
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    When I went to the prison
    the first thing I saw
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    were those drawings that you see
    behind the young men,
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    it was like an art gallery.
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    They were drawings where they had drawn
    everything they wanted.
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    I looked at Cristian with Olga
    and we said, "Hey, Cristian,
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    what do you do here in the unit?"
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    "Nothing".
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    "How's that, Cristian?"
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    "Nothing. On Monday nothing,
    nothing on Tuesday, nothing on Thursday."
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    "What if I proposed you a workshop where
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    you can think about the mistake
    you made, why you are here
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    and you can think of a project
    for when you leave prison?"
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    And Cristian replied:
    "Would you do that for me?"
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    "Of course."
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    Then we started a workshop
    where we talked about leadership,
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    so they could lead their life project.
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    We had a book: "The New Leaders,"
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    which belonged to this organization.
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    And it had chapters like:
    "Personal transformation,"
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    "The common good", "Ethics" or "Values."
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    Each chapter we read it with the inmates,
    the 48 who attended the workshop.
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    And not only that,
    we would create a comic
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    and each of them could put in the comic
    what they learned from that chapter.
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    But not only that,
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    we invited the authors of the book
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    and we reflected upon the workshop
    we were giving.
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    So that the prisoners could also think
    some way of a life project
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    once they were out of there.
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    And then I knocked down another poverty,
    the poverty of prejudice.
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    We think that people
    who are deprived of their liberty
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    not only deserve to be there,
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    but they don't have the ability,
    nor the dignity
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    to be able to change their future.
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    Yes, they can change their future.
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    All they need are opportunities.
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    And what I was providing there
    was an opportunity.
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    But not only with this I knocked down
    the poverty of prejudice.
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    Then I got to work on another project
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    with a colleague, an acquaintance
    from the gastronomic industry,
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    who had a restaurant chain
    in down San Isidro.
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    He said: "Dani,
    in front of my restaurants
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    is the settlement Martin and Omar
    and I don't know what to do,
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    because every time
    I pass by they tell me:
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    'Hey, mustache, got work for me?',
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    and I don't know what to do".
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    Then we created a program
    called Cocina para Integrar.
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    What did we do?
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    This man would teach the women
    from the settlement to be chefs,
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    so that they have preparation not only
    as people engaged in odd jobs,
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    but also in a trade
    in the gastronomic industry.
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    And then I broke another prejudice,
    I broke another poverty.
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    The poverty of thinking
    that people who are living
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    in contexts of vulnerability
    can only work doing odd jobs.
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    No, they are professionals
    who also can be formed in trades,
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    as that of being a chef.
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    On this path I met with another person
    who also helped me
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    knock down another of my poverties.
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    We met during a talk we gave together.
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    He had a company which developed
    products with design,
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    shoes with a different design.
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    He gives his talk, a young company
    which exported worldwide.
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    I give my talk and he says:
    "Dani, you have to work with me."
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    And I said, "Tomás, what do you want me
    to work on in your business?"
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    "You have to do in my company
    what you do in the neighborhoods.
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    You have to work in my neighborhood
    which is my business, my community,
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    with my employees."
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    "What do you want me to do?"
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    "I want you to be
    the Human Resources manager."
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    And I said, "But, Tomás,
    I don't even know how to clear salaries."
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    He says, "I don't care,
    you will learn that,
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    what you know is to listen
    and to be with the people."
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    After working three years with him,
    he proposes me to be even more than that.
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    And today I am the Culture
    and Happiness manager.
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    In the private sector I work as --
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    (Applause)
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    Not only I work in the neighborhoods,
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    to improve people's quality of life,
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    but also companies start
    to think that all the people
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    working in a company can improve
    their quality of life.
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    They have to work happy
    and work on their company culture.
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    But this was not last.
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    The last big project
    that I have with three friends
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    is to build a social enterprise
    called Creer Hacer.
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    What is Creer Hacer?
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    It is a social enterprise
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    where we work with the private,
    public and social sectors.
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    We build a bridge for these three
    sectors so they can improve
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    the quality of life of any person.
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    We have lots of projects
    with this institution.
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    To strengthen the NGOs
    that want to be strengthened.
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    We have a project called Barrio Abierto,
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    replicating a model very similar to this,
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    but in the middle
    of a settlement, like La Cava.
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    In the middle of La Cava we will make
    an event called Cava Abierta.
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    Six speakers will come to share
    their story, very similar to mine,
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    and they can share with their neighbors
    that they decided to take a step forward,
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    they decided to improve
    their quality of life.
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    (Applause)
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    You may ask me today,
    what is your wealth?
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    My wealth has to do with this,
    to have formed a family,
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    with my wife, with my brothers,
    with my friends.
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    To be the parent of Lautaro and Catalina,
    which is two months old.
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    And I want to tell you this:
    any of you here
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    can be a Liliana Alpern.
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    Anyone of you can consecrate time
    once a week to someone else,
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    so that they change their lives.
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    (Applause)
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    Regardless of your economic poverty
    or your economic wealth,
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    don't make of your life a poor life.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
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    (Whistles)
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    (Applause)
Title:
What is poverty? | Daniel Cerezo | TEDxRiodelaPlata
Description:

This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.

Daniel Cerezo had a very low origin with many economic difficulties and asks himself what poverty ισ. His answer may surprise us.

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Video Language:
Spanish
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Duration:
18:03

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