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Why we should all be ecologists | Marija Vugdelić | TEDxPodgorica

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    People often ask me, I was asked
    the same this morning,
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    "How come that you are an ecologist?"
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    When I think about
    how I ended up in this story,
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    usually I find the explanation
    in two experiences that I find crucial.
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    The first one is related
    to the TV series "Survival''.
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    I am not sure
    how many of you in the audience
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    can remember that series,
    the elder probably do.
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    I can hear the applause
    in the back rows.
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    The series I watched as a child.
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    At the age of 5 or 6,
    I was impressed with it.
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    Watching the examples
    of flora and fauna,
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    I was curious about why some organisms
    are made to look the way they do.
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    Why they live in certain areas.
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    Why they behave in the way they do.
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    How and why different interactions
    happen between organisms and species?
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    Those questions affected me very much
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    and the series
    left a strong impression on me,
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    so many years after it directly
    influenced my college choice.
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    When I finished high school
    and decided to go to Britain to study,
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    I knew it would be some kind of biology,
    but when I listed the brochure,
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    about a hundreds of universities,
    university departments
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    and when I thought which one to choose,
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    University of East Anglia
    caught my attention,
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    more precisely this "Anglia"
    in the name of the university.
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    The first association was the introduction
    of the TV series "Survival''
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    where I saw a silver horseman,
    which was the logo of Anglia TV channel,
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    that produced this series.
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    At that point I said,
    "I want to go there!''
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    My only wish was to be
    as close as possible to Anglia television.
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    Later on, it turned out
    that this university
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    was the best possible choice
    I could have made.
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    So that the passion I had
    since I was child
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    brought me right where I wanted to be.
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    The second reason was, that,
    thanks to my family,
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    since I was a little girl, I had a chance
    to spend all my summers,
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    weekends, vacations at country side
    at the north of Montenegro.
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    That experience gave me an opportunity
    to make a direct contact with nature,
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    to observe plants, animals,
    their relations in their natural habitat.
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    Also to observe their relations
    with people who live there
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    and who use that nature
    on a daily basis.
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    It gave me an opportunity to think about
    where I am in that system of relations.
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    To compare types of those relations
    in the nature, and the ones in the city.
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    It just made me think
    about it, in that direction.
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    Throughout those two experiences
    I got curious, interested in nature,
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    science and biology,
    that is ecology as a life call
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    which was a way
    to satisfy my interests.
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    However, along the way I figured out
    a very important thing.
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    And that is:
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    That knowing nature and natural relations
    should be responsibility and obligation
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    of every person no matter
    what that person does for living.
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    Today, I am going to try to convince you
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    why everyone should be
    or must be an ecologist.
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    In Montenegro, when you say "ecology"
    or that someone is an ecologist,
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    usually the first picture
    that people imagine is some garbage.
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    However, ecology is not
    a synonym for garbage.
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    But if you need to imagine a picture
    when you hear the word ecology,
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    then personally,
    I would like you to imagine this one.
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    I am going to explain it now.
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    Ecology studies the relations between
    organisms and their surroundings.
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    It is trying to answer the questions:
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    Why do some organisms,
    some species live
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    in the places they live,
    and why they populate certain areas.
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    Who eats whom and why?
    Who helps whom?
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    We all watched "Finding Nemo",
    so we know that it lives in anemones.
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    Who is a parasite to whom?
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    And how all interactions influence
    the quantity of organisms
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    and their place in space in time.
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    Organisms in nature enter
    in various types of interaction
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    and together they create
    a very complex net of interactions.
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    But those relations constantly change.
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    As the balance between them
    changes, number of organisms,
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    species, in time and space,
    and relations between them change
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    and the net will always
    change its shape and adapt.
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    Of course, if the number
    of individual species is going down
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    or a whole species disappears,
    some of those relations are broken
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    but by time they recover
    and new ones occur.
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    The disappearance of species or reducing
    of organisms is a natural process.
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    It happens for many reasons,
    about which I will not talk now.
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    However, disappearance of organisms,
    disappearance of species which happened
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    in the last hundred years
    greatly exceeds the speed
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    in which it would normally
    happen in nature.
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    It is by some estimates faster
    by 1000 up to 10 000 times.
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    What is the result?
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    The result is
    that the connections are broken
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    and there is not enough time
    for them to recover.
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    Those strings are broken permanently.
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    Nowadays, we often wonder if nature
    can survive under the influence of man.
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    Personally, I would not be
    worried for it.
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    It will remain in this or some other form.
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    The main question
    that we should worry about
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    is how much will all of this cost us?
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    In two days from now it marks one year
    since Lonely George passed away.
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    Has anybody heard for Lonely George?
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    It was the last example of a gigantic
    turtle species from Galapagos island.
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    With this death the species
    simply became a legend.
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    Imagine that it was not Lonely George
    who died, but the last bee.
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    What do you think, how much
    would this scenario affect you?
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    Today, a year later, not only that
    we would not have honey or bee products,
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    but we would miss even apples, pears,
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    cherries, tomatoes, sunflowers,
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    sunflower oil and God knows what else.
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    All these agricultural goods which
    are the base of our nutrition today.
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    Those goods are maintained thanks
    to the pollination done by the bees.
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    If you think this scenario is unreal,
    that I am exaggerating, unfortunately
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    in some parts of the world, the population
    went down 50% in the last few years.
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    If that trend continues - you can imagine.
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    So, whether we want to admit it or not,
    the human being is a biological species.
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    We keep on living and depending on
    interaction with others, with nature.
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    It is those other species,
    their function, their interaction
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    that enable us to have food.
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    To have structure and fibers.
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    To have raw materials for certain
    industries such as pharmaceutical,
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    this is St. John's Wort in the picture.
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    It allows us to have clean water,
    fresh air, and the oxygen we breathe in.
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    Also, throughout those interactions nature
    keeps us safe from erosion, floods, fires.
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    In other words, all of that gives us
    plenty of goods and favors
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    on which we depend,
    directly or indirectly,
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    besides all technology,
    science and progress we made.
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    In the last few years we became
    aware of ecological problems because
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    some of them started to cause problems.
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    The end of this species
    withdraws the end of these goods.
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    And if we want to continue building
    our future, to maintain the life standard
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    and the quality of life, then we
    simply have to change our way
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    of thinking and our approach to nature.
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    Industrial revolution.
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    Everything that came after,
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    made us go to cities, urban areas,
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    and thus we have alienated ourselves
    from the nature.
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    It has become far, different,
    even abstract.
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    I always remember a comment
    of a friend of mine from Britain.
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    He was born and raised in London.
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    He once told me
    about the frozen fish sticks
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    which are called
    ''fish fingers'' in English.
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    He told me once, "I was ten years old,
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    when I realized that
    fish don't have fingers."
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    The food we eat became some
    kind of abstraction to us,
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    because we cannot see where
    it is from or how it gets to us.
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    The problem is that we forgot
    that our place is not there,
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    but here.
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    That human beings are a part of that net
    and that we depend on it.
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    As I said before, if we want
    to keep building a future,
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    maintain a life standard, then we
    have to change our way of thinking.
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    We have to change the whole
    paradigm, our approach to nature.
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    For all this to happen,
    a few things need to be done.
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    One of them is that humans and their needs
    are treated as a part of ecosystem.
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    Not as something else, above, outside,
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    but as a part of that ecosystem.
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    As an illustration, I will tell you about
    an example from Mexico.
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    I volunteered there two years ago
    in the national park ''El Triumpho''
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    in the south. It is the biggest
    rain forest in Central America,
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    a part of true wilderness
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    which is the natural habitat for many
    endangered species, such as tapirs,
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    jaguars, quetzals.
    Those are all Mayan birds, etc.
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    However, on the outskirts
    of the rainforest
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    are the villages where the main
    activity of the inhabitants
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    is coffee planting.
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    But life there is very hard.
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    People are very poor.
    They lack basic infrastructure.
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    No roads, no schools, hygienic
    conditions are bad, and so on.
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    The only source of money for those
    people is the coffee which they plant.
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    However, the income comes only 3 to 4
    months in a year, when the coffee is ripe
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    and ready for sale.
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    The only way for these people
    to increase their annual income
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    was to plant more coffee,
    which would normally harm the rain forest
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    because they have been cutting trees down.
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    Of course, that caused problems
    with the guards.
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    But the experts from the park
    decided not to forbid
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    the locals to cut the forest,
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    but to apply a different approach instead.
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    In cooperation with experts
    and volunteers from the national park,
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    the locals realized,
    if they cut down the forest,
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    erosion would happen,
    so there would not be any place
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    where they can plant or if they already
    planted coffee, rain would wash it away.
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    The rain season lasts for 6 months there,
    and there are huge amounts of rain daily.
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    During the draught, if there is no forest,
    there is no place for water to be held,
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    so there is no clean drinking water,
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    nor could they water
    their coffee plantation.
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    They realized that if they plant their
    coffee with protection guidance,
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    their coffee would become a brand,
    and as such it would give them advantage,
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    on the coffee market in comparison
    to their competitors.
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    So they became the biggest fighters
    for the salvation of the rain forest.
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    When you go there, they have
    improvised signs all over the place,
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    with "Do not kill animals",
    "Do not cut down the forest" and so on.
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    They started to protect the nature,
    because they saw that they can achieve
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    personal interest.
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    They became interested
    in innovations in coffee planting,
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    in some new ways, for example,
    such as, to plant coffee in shadows,
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    with no need to cut down the forest.
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    There are many examples
    like these in the world.
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    For all of those who are successful,
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    it does not matter
    if the country or the community are rich
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    or a lot of money comes in
    through projects or programs,
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    but what matters
    is that there is will, enthusiasm
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    and that people are treated
    as a part of an ecosystem.
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    With pleasure, I have to say,
    although these methods
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    and ideas are relatively new,
    they are coming slowly to Montenegro.
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    When I was working on Skadar Lake,
    I had a chance to collaborate and work
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    with locals, mostly fishermen.
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    Throughout this, I personally saw
    that this kind of approach works,
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    that it can give concrete, positive
    results that favor both sides,
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    to protect nature
    and help local development.
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    For this year we expect to form
    first regional parks in Montenegro.
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    It will be in Piva and Komovi.
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    Those will be protected areas,
    where we expect to achieve better
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    protection with this approach,
    by having people
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    and their needs treated as the
    inherent part of an ecosystem.
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    Right after TEDx, I am going to Komovi
    where we have meetings with people
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    who live there, to find out the best
    way to get these things together.
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    There is another issue,
    which is very important.
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    When we hear that some ecological problem
    happened, usually the first reaction
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    is to blame someone
    who destroys the nature.
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    The one who cuts down the trees,
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    or the one who is building
    a road, or a hotel etc.
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    I have to disappoint you, but sadly
    all of us here are as equally guilty.
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    We are guilty for being ignorant, we are
    guilty for not being able to understand
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    how our activities and actions
    affect nature
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    when we do not take
    the responsibility for our actions.
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    If you do not understand the consequences
    of what we are doing,
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    this type of ecological advice
    still remains abstract to you.
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    You cannot see clearly
    what they represent.
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    I ask you to do something else,
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    and Miloš asked you
    to do something similar
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    and that is, simply to spend more time
    in nature.
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    There is no need to dream
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    about some far away, exotic destination
    although I encourage you all to go,
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    same as Blažo did.
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    We are unlikely privileged and lucky
    because we have literally everything
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    I talked about here in Montenegro,
    the possibility to experience everything,
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    to feel the nature
    and all those interactions.
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    Next time when you think about
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    where to spend
    your afternoon, day or weekend,
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    here are some examples.
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    You can go everywhere by car
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    or on foot and I am sure
    that you will not regret it.
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    If you still need some motivation to go,
    just imagine your photos
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    from this lake, and how many likes
    they would get on Facebook.
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    In the end, I have a message for you.
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    The growth of global population,
    the development of technology,
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    all these are global trends
    that we are more or less aware of.
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    They keep bringing
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    new challenges, new problems
    which directly affect our quality of life.
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    And in the middle of these problems
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    is the human relation to nature,
    how we treat it and what it gives back.
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    Thus, those who are aware
    of those relations, those who understand
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    the concept of sustainability
    that we are talking about,
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    will be able to handle these challenges.
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    Thus, I advise you
    to become an ecologist soon
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    because you will be more prepared
    to meet the unknown future.
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    Thank you!
    (Applause)
Title:
Why we should all be ecologists | Marija Vugdelić | TEDxPodgorica
Description:

Marija Vugdelić is "a kind-tempered” girl who engages in photography, mountaineering, plays the harmonica, dances tango, makes jewelery and hosts travelers.

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