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Gaming for understanding

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    When we think of games, there's all kinds of things.
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    Maybe you're ticked off, or maybe you're looking forward
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    to a new game. You've been up too late playing a game.
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    All these things happen to me.
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    But when we think about games, a lot of times we think
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    about stuff like this: first-person shooters, or the big,
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    what we would call AAA games,
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    or maybe you're a Facebook game player.
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    This is one my partner and I worked on.
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    Maybe you play Facebook games, and that's what we're
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    making right now. This is a lighter form of game.
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    Maybe you think about the tragically boring board games
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    that hold us hostage in Thanksgiving situations.
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    This would be one of those tragically boring board games
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    that you can figure out.
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    Or maybe you're in your living room, you know,
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    playing with the Wii with the kids, or something like that,
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    and, you know, there's this whole range of games,
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    and that's very much what I think about.
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    I make my living from games. I've been lucky enough
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    to do this since I was 15, which also qualifies
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    as I've never really had a real job.
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    But we think about games as fun, and that's completely
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    reasonable, but let's just think about this.
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    So this one here, this is the 1980 Olympics.
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    Now I don't know where you guys were, but I was
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    in my living room. It was practically a religious event.
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    And this is when the Americans beat the Russians,
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    and this was -- yes, it was technically a game.
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    Hockey is a game. But really, was this a game?
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    I mean, people cried. I've never seen my mother cry
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    like that at the end of Monopoly.
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    And so this was just an amazing experience.
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    Or, you know, if anybody here is from Boston --
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    So when the Boston Red Sox won the World Series after,
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    I believe, 351 years,
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    when they won the World Series, it was amazing.
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    I happened to be living in Springfield at the time,
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    and the best part of it was -- is that --
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    you would close the women's door in the bathroom,
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    and I remember seeing "Go Sox," and I thought, really?
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    Or the houses, you'd come out, because every game,
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    well, I think almost every game, went into overtime, right?
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    So we'd be outside, and all the other lights are on
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    on the whole block, and kids, like, the attendance was down
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    in school, and kids weren't going to school.
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    But it's okay, it's the Red Sox, right?
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    I mean, there's education, and then there's the Red Sox,
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    and we know where they're stacked.
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    So this was an amazing experience, and again, yes,
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    it was a game, but they didn't write newspaper articles,
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    people didn't say -- you know, really, "I can die now
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    because the Red Sox won." And many people did.
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    So games, it means something more to us.
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    It absolutely means something more.
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    So now, just, this is an abrupt transition here.
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    There was three years where I actually did have a real job, sort of.
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    I was the head of a college department
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    teaching games, so, again, it was sort of a real job,
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    and now I just got to talk about making as opposed to making them.
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    And I was at a dinner. Part of the job of it, when you're
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    a chair of a department, is to eat, and I did that very well,
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    and so I'm out at a dinner with this guy called Zig Jackson.
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    So this is Zig in this photograph. This is also one of Zig's
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    photographs. He's a photographer.
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    And he goes all around the country taking pictures
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    of himself, and you can see here he's got
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    Zig's Indian Reservation. And this particular shot, this
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    is one of the more traditional shots. This is a rain dancer.
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    And this is one of my favorite shots here.
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    So you can look at this, and maybe you've even seen
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    things like this. This is an expression of culture, right?
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    And this is actually from his Degradation series.
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    And what was most fascinating to me about this series
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    is just, look at that little boy there.
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    Can you imagine? Now let's, we can see that's a traditional
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    Native American. Now I just want to change that guy's race.
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    Just imagine if that's a black guy.
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    So, "Honey, come here, let's get your picture with the black guy."
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    Right? Like, seriously, nobody would do this.
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    It baffles the mind. And so Zig, being Indian,
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    likewise it baffles his mind. His favorite photograph --
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    my favorite photograph of his, which I don't have in here is
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    Indian taking picture of white people taking pictures
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    of Indians. (Laughter)
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    So I happen to be at dinner with this photographer,
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    and he was talking with another photographer
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    about a shooting that had occurred,
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    and it was on an Indian reservation. He'd taken his camera
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    up there to photograph it, but when he got there,
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    he discovered he couldn't do it. He just couldn't capture
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    the picture. And so they were talking back and forth
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    about this question. Do you take the picture or not?
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    And that was fascinating to me as a game designer,
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    because it never occurs to me, like, should I make
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    the game about this difficult topic or not?
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    Because we just make things that are fun or, you know,
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    will make you feel fear, you know, that visceral excitement.
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    But every other medium does it.
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    So this is my kid. This is Maezza, and when she was
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    seven years old, she came home from school one day,
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    and like I do every single day, I asked her,
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    "What'd you do today?"
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    So she said, "We talked about the Middle Passage."
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    Now, this was a big moment. Maezza's dad is black,
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    and I knew this day was coming. I wasn't expecting it
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    at seven. I don't know why, but I wasn't.
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    Anyways, so I asked her, "How do you feel about that?"
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    So she proceeded to tell me, and so any of you
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    who are parents will recognize the bingo buzzwords here.
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    So the ships start in England, they come down
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    from England, they go to Africa, they go across the ocean --
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    that's the Middle Passage part — they come to America
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    where the slaves are sold, she's telling me.
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    But Abraham Lincoln was elected president, and then he
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    passed the Emancipation Proclamation, and now they're free.
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    Pause for about 10 seconds.
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    "Can I play a game, Mommy?"
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    And I thought, that's it? And so, you know,
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    this is the Middle Passage, this is an incredibly significant
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    event, and she's treating it like, basically some
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    black people went on a cruise, is more or less
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    how it sounds to her. (Laughter)
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    And so, to me, I wanted more value in this, so when
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    she asked if she could play a game, I said,
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    "Yes." (Laughter)
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    And so I happened to have all of these little pieces.
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    I'm a game designer, so I have this stuff sitting around my house.
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    So I said, "Yeah, you can play a game," and I give her
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    a bunch of these, and I tell her to paint them
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    in different families. These are pictures of Maezza
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    when she was — God, it still chokes me up seeing these.
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    So she's painting her little families.
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    So then I grab a bunch of them and I put them on a boat.
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    This was the boat. It was made quickly obviously. (Laughter)
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    And so the basic gist of it is, I grabbed a bunch of families,
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    and she's like, "Mommy, but you forgot the pink baby
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    and you forgot the blue daddy
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    and you forgot all these other things."
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    And she says, "They want to go." And I said,
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    "Honey, no they don't want to go. This is the Middle Passage.
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    Nobody wants to go on the Middle Passage."
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    So she gave me a look that only a daughter
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    of a game designer would give a mother,
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    and as we're going across the ocean, following these rules,
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    she realizes that she's rolling pretty high, and she says
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    to me, "We're not going to make it."
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    And she realizes, you know, we don't have enough food,
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    and so she asks what to do, and I say,
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    "Well, we can either" -- Remember, she's seven --
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    "We can either put some people in the water
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    or we can hope that they don't get sick
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    and we make it to the other side."
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    And she -- just the look on her face came over
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    and she said -- now mind you this is after a month of --
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    this is Black History Month, right?
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    After a month she says to me,
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    "Did this really happen?"
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    And I said, "Yes." And so she said, "So, if I came
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    out of the woods" — this is her brother and sister — "If I came
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    out of the woods, Avalon and Donovan might be gone."
    "Yes."
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    "But I'd get to see them in America."
    "No."
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    "But what if I saw them? You know, couldn't we stay together?"
    "No."
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    "So Daddy could be gone."
    "Yes."
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    And she was fascinated by this, and she started to cry,
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    and I started to cry, and her father started to cry,
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    and now we're all crying. He didn't expect
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    to come home from work to the Middle Passage,
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    but there it goes. (Laughter)
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    And so, we made this game, and she got it.
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    She got it because she spent time with these people.
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    It wasn't abstract stuff in a brochure or in a movie.
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    And so it was just an incredibly powerful experience.
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    This is the game, which I've ended up calling
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    The New World, because I like the phrase.
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    I don't think the New World felt too new worldly exciting
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    to the people who were brought over on slave ships.
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    But when this happened, I saw the whole planet.
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    I was so excited. It was like, I'd been making games
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    for 20-some years, and then I decided to do it again.
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    My history is Irish.
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    So this is a game called Síochán Leat. It's "peace be with you."
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    It's the entire history of my family in a single game.
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    I made another game called Train.
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    I was making a series of six games
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    that covered difficult topics, and if you're going to cover
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    a difficult topic, this is one you need to cover,
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    and I'll let you figure out what that's about on your own.
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    And I also made a game about the Trail of Tears.
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    This is a game with 50,000 individual pieces.
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    I was crazy when I decided to start it,
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    but I'm in the middle of it now.
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    It's the same thing.
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    I'm hoping that I'll teach culture through these games.
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    And the one I'm working on right now, which is --
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    because I'm right in the middle of it, and these for some reason choke me up like crazy --
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    is a game called Mexican Kitchen Workers.
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    And originally it was a math problem more or less.
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    Like, here's the economics of illegal immigration.
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    And the more I learned about the Mexican culture --
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    my partner is Mexican — the more I learned that,
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    you know, for all of us, food is a basic need, but,
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    and it is obviously with Mexicans too, but it's much more than that.
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    It's an expression of love. It's an expression of —
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    God, I'm totally choking up way more than I thought.
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    I'll look away from the picture.
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    It's an expression of beauty. It's how they say they love you.
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    It's how they say they care, and you can't hear somebody
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    talk about their Mexican grandmother
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    without saying "food" in the first sentence.
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    And so to me, this beautiful culture, this beautiful expression
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    is something that I want to capture through games.
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    And so games, for a change, it changes how we see topics,
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    it changes how our perceptions about those people
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    in topics, and it changes ourselves.
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    We change as people through games,
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    because we're involved, and we're playing,
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    and we're learning as we do so. Thank you. (Applause)
Title:
Gaming for understanding
Speaker:
Brenda Brathwaite
Description:

It's never easy to get across the magnitude of complex tragedies -- so when Brenda Brathwite's daughter came home from school asking about slavery, she did what she does for a living -- she designed a game. At TEDxPhoenix she describes the surprising effectiveness of this game, and others, in helping the player really understand the story.
(Filmed at TEDxPhoenix.)

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