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My true story | Zineb El Rhazoui | TEDxKalamata

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    Hello everyone. Thank you for being here.
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    I have to apologize first
    for my very bad English.
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    I think it's as good as most of you.
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    I have no slides to show you.
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    The only one I want
    to show you is this one,
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    because I'm going to tell you
    what happened to my colleagues,
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    and what still will happen
    if we do nothing,
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    if we just stand waiting,
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    and if we don't realize
    that we are all threatened,
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    not only us, but our values,
    our model of society.
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    Let me introduce myself,
    my name is Zineb El Rhazoui.
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    I was born in Morocco,
    to a Moroccan father and French mother.
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    I grew up in Morocco in a Muslim culture,
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    and I started struggling for freedom
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    in 2009.
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    I had a lot of problems
    with the Moroccan regime.
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    Because you know, in Morocco,
    Islam is the religion of state.
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    I had to leave Morocco after that,
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    and anyway, long story short,
    I joined Charlie Hebdo in 2011,
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    and I started working with this team
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    in a very jokey atmosphere,
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    but defending very strong values,
    and very simple values.
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    You know, yesterday,
    we were here for the rehearsal,
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    and I was talking with Inna Shevchenko
    from Femen, she will speak later,
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    and she was telling me something,
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    she was telling me, "Zineb, do you realize
    that in that very beautiful place,
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    2000 years ago, people were speaking
    about most interesting things,
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    then we will speak about tonight?"
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    Because tonight, actually I want just
    to deliver a message which is very basic.
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    My message is that people
    who make funny cartoons
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    like this one,
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    or who write jokes
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    about power, about religion, about money,
    about politics, about you, about me,
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    they must not be killed.
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    (Applause)
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    Last January, I wasn't there
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    when the Kouachi brothers came
    and executed eight of my colleagues,
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    and four other people in Charlie Hebdo.
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    I joined France the day after,
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    and today, just like
    some of the survivors,
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    I live under police protection,
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    I have a very heavy
    protocol of protection.
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    It means that when I go buy bread,
    I have bodyguards with me.
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    When I am in a cafe, when I leave it,
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    I find one of my bodyguards
    standing next to the door.
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    When I go to the supermarket
    I have bodyguards with me,
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    when I go reporting,
    I have bodyguards with me.
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    I live in the heart of Paris,
    I live in this beautiful city of Paris,
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    where normally people like me
    shouldn't be protected.
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    You know bodyguards normally work
    with very important people,
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    with officials, with political people,
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    not with simple journalists
    like me who write or draw.
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    But you know, I'm asking myself
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    why very often people who have
    fatwas on their head like I have,
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    I have to tell you first
    about those fatwas.
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    The threat started the 18th of January,
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    when we issued what the media called
    the survivors' issue,
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    Luz, my colleague,
    made this beautiful drawing,
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    when you have someone who is supposed
    to be the prophet Muhammad crying,
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    and delivering a message of forgiveness,
    and saying, "Je suis Charlie",
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    of course, because it has to be funny.
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    Some people, people from ISIS state,
    the fundamentalists,
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    found that was a provocation.
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    And you know, their friends were just
    killing my colleagues one week before,
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    but they found this is a provocation!
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    So we started receiving
    threats from ISIS state,
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    telling me, "You escaped by miracle
    our glorious attack in Paris
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    where your brothers in atheism,
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    the journalists of Charlie Hebdo
    have been killed,
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    but believe us, we will not close our eyes
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    before we will separate
    your head from your body."
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    In the same moment, a video
    on YouTube was published
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    by a group calling itself
    the Anonymous Islamic Youth,
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    promising to me that I am
    condemned to death soon,
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    they didn't say when but it is soon,
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    and a few weeks later,
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    there were two hashtags
    on Twitter in Arabic,
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    the first hashtag saying,
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    "The duty to kill Zineb El Rhazoui
    to avenge the prophet",
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    and the second one saying,
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    "Locate Zineb El Rhazoui to kill her".
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    So there were serious attempts
    to try to locate me in Paris,
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    They also gave
    the whole religious justification,
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    why it became an obligation
    for every single Muslim to kill me.
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    They gave several methods
    how to execute me.
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    So if you don't have a bullet or a bomb,
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    just isolate me somewhere,
    break my head with big stones,
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    cut my head or burn me,
    or at least burn my house.
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    So I am wondering why am I threatened?
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    And also why very often
    people who have contracts on their heads
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    are usually issued
    from the Muslim culture.
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    That was the case for Salman Rushdie,
    he was born in a Muslim family,
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    Taslima Nasreen, Kamel Daoud,
    the Algerian writer,
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    Nawal El Saadawi, the Egyptian
    feminist and writer,
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    Raif Badawi who is still
    jailed now in Saudi Arabia,
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    Cheikh Ould Mâkhaitir,
    the Mauritanian blogger
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    who is condemned to death.
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    All those people have
    a contract on their head
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    or are condemned to death
    because they criticized religion.
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    So I will tell you I think why.
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    Because I think people like us
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    are the living contradiction
    to this smokescreen
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    that the fundamentalists
    want to put in our heads.
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    If you have the same speech
    as I have about Islam,
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    I grew up in this religion,
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    I studied it 16 years
    in the Moroccan school,
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    I speak Arabic, I was
    teaching Arabic in Egypt,
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    so I know what I criticize.
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    But if you as Greek people, if Westerners,
    European people say the same as me,
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    they tell them,
    "Oh, you are an Islamophobe."
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    It means you are a racist,
    so shut your mouth.
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    But when people like us have this speech,
    they cannot tell we are racist.
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    They may say we are the home Arab,
    or self hating Arab,
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    I don't know but it not very serious.
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    So, those people, the fundamentalists,
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    in the countries where Islam
    is the religion of state,
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    where they have the power,
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    in those countries,
    if you criticize their religion,
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    they just put you in jail or kill you.
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    But in Europe, they have
    no legal tool, to shut your mouth.
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    So they accuse you
    of being Islamophobe then racist.
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    So let's study this notion,
    this concept of Islamophobia.
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    Why the hell when a Christian
    criticizes his religion,
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    we say he is an anticlerical.
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    We don't say he is a Christianophobe.
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    But when a Muslim criticizes
    his religion, he is an Islamophobe.
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    This is a question.
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    Second question,
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    why are we supposed
    to consider Muslims as a race?
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    And why do we consider that the Muslims
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    are condemned to be ruled
    by their own tradition?
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    Aren't they capable of sharing
    the same universal values as us?
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    Why accusing those who criticize Islam
    of being racist?
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    They are just people who say,
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    "Okay, we are for equality
    between men and women,
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    and we consider
    that the whole human being
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    should apply this equality.
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    Why exclude the Muslims
    from this equality?
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    Why exclude them
    from the universal values?
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    Isn't that exactly racism?
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    Isn't racism to say, "We as Westerners
    want certain values for our society,
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    but you know those people,
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    we will understand
    that they are doing it differently
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    because you know
    we don't want to be racist."
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    This is exactly racism for me.
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    And you know this Islamophobia actually,
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    it is an intellectual imposture,
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    which was invented, which was created
    the first time by the Iranian Mullah,
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    to shut our mouths,
    but actually it doesn't really work.
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    This word entered this year
    the French dictionary Larousse.
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    It is described as Islamophobia means
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    hostility towards Islam and the Muslims.
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    So here, there is a confusion
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    between criticizing ideas
    and criticizing people.
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    These are two things
    that are very different.
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    And the Council of Europe also,
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    adopted recently
    this definition of Islamophobia,
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    as expressing any hostile
    or negative ideas
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    toward Islam or Muslims,
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    and this is considered to be racist.
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    So if we consider that in countries
    like France for instance,
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    racism is not an opinion,
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    racism is forbidden by the low in France.
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    So if we consider that Islamophobia,
    which is the fact to criticize Islam,
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    is racism,
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    you are obliged by the law
    to have a positive opinion on Islam.
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    Isn't that fascism?
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    Let us consider a second notion,
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    a second smokescreen
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    that the fundamentalists
    want to put on our minds
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    to stop us from criticizing
    their fundamentalism.
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    You know, in the United States
    for instance,
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    I have been there recently,
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    they have a new concept
    called the safe space.
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    What does the safe space mean?
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    The safe space means
    that you come to my conference,
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    you pay to come to my conference,
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    no one obliged you,
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    but you don't agree with me,
    so you want me to shut my mouth,
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    because you don't agree with it.
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    The safe space is the right
    not to be offended.
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    Okay, so if you don't want to be offended,
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    either you don't come,
    you turn off your television,
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    you don't buy Charlie Hebdo,
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    or you just pass your way,
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    but if you come, listen to me
    and I am able to listen to you too.
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    And actually, this right
    to not be offended doesn't exist,
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    the only right that exists
    is the right to free speech.
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    Freedom of speech is a right that exists.
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    (Applause)
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    So what I want to say to all of you,
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    we must be very aware of the techniques,
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    the very complicated techniques
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    used by the fundamentalists
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    to change the notions,
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    to put a poison in certain values
    that were very simple,
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    that are very clear,
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    such as democracy, such as secularism,
    such as freedom of speech,
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    such as racism.
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    Racism exists in Europe,
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    but racism is not the fact
    to criticize a religion,
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    is not the fact to criticize an idea,
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    racism is the fact to deprave
    someone from his rights,
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    or the fact to apply general clichés
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    to people who are supposed
    to belong to a community,
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    either a religion or a race or color.
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    This is racism.
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    Racism is not criticizing Islam
    or any other idea,
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    because Islam is an idea,
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    and Islam is a power,
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    Islam is a political power
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    in the country where Islam
    is the religion of state,
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    your life is ruled by Islam.
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    For instance, I was born in Morocco,
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    I am considered by the law as a Muslim,
    while I am atheist actually,
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    but I am obliged to be considered
    as a Muslim by the law,
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    I am condemned to be ruled by Islam,
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    I am condemned to marry a Muslim man
    even if I love a non Muslim man,
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    I can't marry him,
    it's forbidden by the law.
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    I only inherent half
    of what a man inherits,
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    either, even if I pay
    my coffee the same price,
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    so why the hell don't I have the right
    to criticize this power?
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    Isn't that racism?
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    Isn't that racism to say
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    you were born in a culture
    so you cannot reach the universal values.
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    We all have to be aware of that,
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    and we all have now to understand
    that in this world, here in Europe,
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    many events like this one
    were canceled for security reasons,
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    that there are people who speak,
    who are threatened,
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    who have their lives destroyed
    by those threats,
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    who have their lives destroyed
    by this monster without face
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    who can be everywhere,
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    and who want us to stop defending
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    our universal values of freedom.
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    So I think that we must be aware
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    that today I am threatened as a person,
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    but no matter my person,
    no matter the people,
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    it is a question of values,
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    and the more we are,
    the cheaper will be the price,
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    and with Charlie Hebdo we paid
    a very very expensive price
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    for our freedom of speech,
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    because we were isolated,
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    many people, even in France,
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    didn't understand
    what we were talking about.
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    Many people said, "Okay,
    it's not important to make those jokes,
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    we can abandon those jokes,
    and just not offend the others,
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    but actually it's not a question
    of offending the others,
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    it's a question of civilization,
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    and the right to blasphemy
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    is exactly the boundary
    between barbarism and civilization,
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    and this is why we did it.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
My true story | Zineb El Rhazoui | TEDxKalamata
Description:

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
A few months after the attack at Charlie Hebdo that shocked the world, Zineb came to TEDxKalamata for a powerful speech. At her talk, she is going to share her point view towards human rights, racism and freedom of speech.

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