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TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard

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    (A Nonami film)
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    (In co-production with Anagram, Final Cut for Real & Piraya Film)
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    (In the early years of the 21st century, The Pirate Bay grows into the world's largest sharing site)
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    (In 2008, Hollywood and the media industry file a lawsuit against the men behind the site)
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    (This Film follows The Pirate Bay founders Gottfrid Swartholm Warg, Friedrik Neij & Peter Sunde)
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    (Edit Per K. Kirkegaard)
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    Three Swedes were arrested today
    suspected of running-
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    -one of the world's biggest websites
    for illegal downloading...
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    Good evening. The US government
    threatened with trade sanctions-
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    -unless file sharing sites, like
    the Pirate Bay, are shut down.
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    Illegal downloading has upset
    big organizations in Hollywood...
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    The motion picture studios lost an estimated 6.1 billion dollars to piracy.
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    The White House forced the
    Swedish government to intervene.
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    We applaud the Swedish authorities for doing that.
    This was an important site for us to get rid of.
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    The police website was attacked
    on Friday-
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    -and last night
    the government website.
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    (A film by Simon Klose)
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    (TPB AFK)
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    (The Pirate Bay - Away from Keyboard)
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    (Stockholm, Sweden - February 2009)
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    The trial against the founders of
    the Pirate Bay begins tomorrow.
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    Today they met the press.
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    What will happen to the Pirate Bay
    if you're found guilty?
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    Nothing.
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    What are they going to do about it?
    They've failed shutting it down once.
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    They're welcome
    to come and fail again.
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    It's not the Pirate Bay
    that's going to court tomorrow.
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    It is about getting us
    who are connected to the Pirate Bay-
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    -into a political trial.
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    The trial tomorrow is not
    about the law, it's about politics.
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    Half of all BitTorrent traffic is coordinated by the Pirate Bay.
    (BITTORENT Helps people share files with each other)
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    It's extreme amounts of traffic.
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    There are 22-25 million users
    at this very moment.
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    A user is defined
    as one ongoing upload or download.
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    Any questions? Please.
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    Where is Fredrik?
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    Where is Fredrik?
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    We don't know.
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    He was supposed to be here
    but he's probably hungover.
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    The first question: Where is Fredrik?
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    I said that Fredrik likes to party.
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    I didn't want to lie and tell them
    I knew where he was.
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    I tried to get hold of Fredrik
    all day yesterday.
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    I called him a couple of times
    and finally he answered.
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    He says: "Do you know where I am?"
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    I go: "No."
    "I'm at Arlanda Airport."
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    "Why is that?"
    "I'm leaving."
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    What?
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    He said that he had bought a ticket-
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    -to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. What
    a great name for an escape plan.
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    So his plan was to head home
    to his girlfriend in Laos.
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    Live with her and not give a shit
    about anything.
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    Then suddenly he texted me:
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    "I think it's the Security Service.
    The plane is broken."
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    "So where are you now?"
    "On my way back to the hotel."
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    Phew!
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    The interest for the file-sharing
    trial in Stockholm is massive.
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    (Stocksholms Tingsrätt - District Court)
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    You can't seriously think
    that you can stop our world-
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    -our everyday, our reality.
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    This is so gay.
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    Monique Wadsted.
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    I also represent
    the gaming industry. But not music.
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    We have the biggest damage claim.
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    I represent some of the
    big film studios in Hollywood.
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    Warner Bros., Columbia,
    20th Century Fox and MGM.
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    We're demanding compensations
    of $13 million.
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    It might seem insanely high.
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    That should be seen as an indicator
    of how big this business is.
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    Because this is about
    5 movies during 6 months.
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    "The Pink Panther", "Syriana",
    one "Harry Potter"-
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    -"Prison Break" and "Walk The Line".
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    There is no doubt about
    what they have done.
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    They have run a commercial
    business and making a profit.
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    The penalty for this type
    of activity is prison.
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    Not fines.
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    Fredrik would like to tell his
    version before the prosecutor starts.
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    Is that accepted by the prosecutor?
    You may begin, Fredrik Neij.
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    I want to start by saying that I have
    a great interest in computers and IT.
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    And especially for internet
    and networks.
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    And that I... Well...
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    ...I've lost my train of thought.
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    You forgot what you were saying.
    You had a long interest in IT.
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    I got involved in the Pirate Bay
    because of my interest in IT.
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    I think it's great fun
    to work with technology.
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    For me, the Pirate Bay
    is a technical challenge.
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    To run such a large website
    and such a large tracker technically.
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    Play with computers that I could
    never afford to play with on my own.
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    First I want to ask you...
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    The media often describes you
    as a computer genius.
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    How would you describe
    your competence yourself?
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    I do have a certain
    technical competence, yes.
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    What does "a certain" mean,
    compared to others?
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    I'm not sure this is the right time,
    place or medium to post my CV.
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    But I am asking you.
    Please answer politely.
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    I decline to answer that question.
    It's too much of an estimation.
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    -It's what?
    -Too hard to estimate.
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    -Too hard to estimate?
    - It's a very difficult question.
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    How did you meet
    Fredrik and Gottfrid?
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    I don't remember, but I assume
    it was in a chat room on the internet.
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    When was the first time
    you met IRL?
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    We don't use the expression IRL.
    We say AFK. But that's another issue.
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    I don't remember that either.
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    Got to know each other IRL?
    What is that?
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    In Real Life.
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    We don't like that expression.
    We say AFK - Away From Keyboard.
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    We think that the internet
    is for real.
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    This is what our office looks like.
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    Is this inside the Pirate Bay?
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    Yes. Here are some of
    the people working on it.
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    -Are they working on it now?
    -Yes.
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    Where are they based? In Sweden?
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    Let's see. USA, USA,
    USA or England, England.
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    Finland, I think.
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    The Pirate Bay.
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    This is the web server.
    Data base and search function.
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    The trackers are over there.
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    This little piece is the tracker.
    It's the world's biggest tracker.
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    It coordinates 50%
    of the world's BitTorrent traffic.
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    Not so many computers,
    but powerful and well-configured.
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    Half the day has gone.
    How did it feel in court?
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    So far it's been boring.
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    The prosecutors' strategy is to lie
    as much as possible in the most boring possible way -
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    -so you fall asleep in court and become
    physically undable to defend yourself.
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    Some say that you've made a lot of
    money by spreading illegal material.
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    We've probably made a lot of money,
    but the site costs a lot, too.
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    Hi. Okay, we're coming down. Bye.
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    -Let's eat.
    -Okay. Nothing vegetarian.
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    Aren't you working on the site
    we're on trial for while in court?
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    The pirated Depeche Mode CD
    I have in my laptop is even funnier.
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    He'll open in 5 minutes.
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    How the hell can prosecutor Roswall
    mix up megabit and megabyte?
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    Generally speaking, for storage you use byte and
    when you measure speed you use bit.
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    It all started with Gottfrid's site
    "America's Dumbest Soldiers".
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    It was a site
    where you could rate from 1 to 10.
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    It was American soldiers
    who died in the first Iraq war.
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    Then you could rate
    how stupid they were-
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    -depending on
    how silly their deaths were.
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    Neither the American government nor
    anybody else appreciated the site.
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    I had a spare line
    which I let him use for the site.
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    It was from British Telecom.
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    Someone at the US State Department
    called the head of British Telecom.
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    He called the head of the operator
    in Sweden where I worked.
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    So the US government ordered us
    to remove the site.
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    We fought them for a long time
    before we removed it.
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    We argued that it was
    freedom of speech and parody.
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    After a while we closed it down,
    when it became too much of a fuss.
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    Two months later Gottfrid needed
    more bandwidth for the Pirate Bay.
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    I still had that line available.
    We used it for the Pirate Bay.
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    Hearing with the defendant Peter
    Sunde. The prosecution may begin.
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    Is it true that among
    the Pirate Bay computers-
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    -you stored one that you owned?
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    I bought a computer
    that I gave to the Pirate Bureau.
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    What is the Pirate Bureau?
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    It's an organization
    that discusses the internet.
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    Is copyright and file sharing
    discussed on their website?
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    Probably.
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    And they are critical to
    the way copyright works today?
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    I'm not sure about that.
    People have different views.
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    What's your opinion?
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    It's hard to say.
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    I think it's problematic.
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    In what way?
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    The fact that we're here today
    shows that there is a problem.
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    First of all, I don't believe-
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    -that young people today
    believe that copyright is wrong.
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    I think that's a myth.
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    This Kopimi Sect-
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    -has been really good
    at promoting it.
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    It's so fucking beautiful!
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    We've changed it a bit.
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    So the question
    in the newspaper was:
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    "If the Pirate Bay gets convicted,
    won't they become martyrs?"
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    Monique said:
    "No, they don't have any followers."
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    "However, they do have a small
    Kopimi sect following them".
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    So sweet. That's us!
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    The Pirate Bureau came into
    existence in the summer of 2003.
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    It was at the same time-
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    -as the record industry
    sued Napster in the US-
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    -and the medical industry sued South
    Africa for copying HIV-medicine.
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    The name "the Pirate Bureau"
    was an easy choice.
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    It wasn't about
    romanticizing pirate stuff-
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    -with eye patches and stuff.
    We've never liked that.
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    The Anti-Piracy Bureau
    already existed-
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    -we wanted to state that we're
    the active part in this conflict.
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    The Anti-Piracy Bureau
    is the reactive part.
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    This is Henrik Pontén
    from the Anti-Piracy Bureau.
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    We've been tipped off
    that you're selling copies.
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    Wait, don't close the door.
    The police will come with a warrant.
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    They have a built a business based
    on other people committing crimes.
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    They have created an industry with
    banners and porn ads to earn revenue.
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    It was very profitable.
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    You're making your situation worse.
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    -I must be allowed to close the door.
    -Come out, then.
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    If you look at studies
    about file sharing-
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    -they don't do it for the fellowship
    or to support the ideology.
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    It's because it's simple and free.
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    Then there is a small group
    of people who do this...
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    ...for reasons they claim
    to be freedom of speech.
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    Our policy has always been
    that the site is an empty page-
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    -that is created by the users.
    We don't interfere with the content.
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    Freedom of speech?
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    I'd prefer the technological
    viewpoint, a contact service.
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    -For communication?
    -Yes.
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    I don't care about the piracy
    ideology, copyright or politics.
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    I do this because it's great fun
    to run a large site.
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    Describe the importance of the Pirate Bay.
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    It democratizes and creates great
    conditions for freedom of speech.
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    What has that to do
    with the copyrighted material?
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    The Pirate Bay makes it possible
    for individuals to share material.
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    Even if it's copyrighted?
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    That's a tricky consequence
    that I think we have to discuss.
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    What are you hoping for?
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    I hope we don't get a monitored,
    restricted internet.
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    That's the biggest issue right now.
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    The copyright industry
    is digging a grave for the internet.
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    They don't take into account the
    public benefits of a free internet.
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    The problem is that old people
    are running the companies.
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    They know how you made money
    before and they don't want to change.
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    They're like the Amish. They don't want electricity.
    They know how to make do without electricity.
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    Roger Wallis,
    please come to Court Room 9.
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    Do you think people who download
    movies will go and buy them as well?
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    -If they would buy the movie?
    -Yes, get it legally.
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    Yes, but it depends on the quality.
    If people want better quality.
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    Or if the DVD has special features.
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    You have to increase the value of
    the products in order to sell them.
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    If you want to adjust your
    business model to the new world.
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    Thank you. I called your institute
    and asked these questions-
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    -because we were unable to
    put together your curriculum vitae.
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    You've stated in court
    that you're a professor-
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    -but your institute calls you
    a temporary guest lecturer.
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    -Do you know how to use Google?
    -Yes.
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    Then it's really simple
    to find my CV.
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    -We've moved on from that question.
    -I thought so too.
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    Let's move on.
    Thank you, Your Honor.
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    When you were appointed,
    were there any competitors?
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    I thought we had moved on,
    Your Honor?
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    -I would like an answer.
    -Please answer the question.
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    I have no idea!
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    I was asked to come and I went
    through... And we're back on this!
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    ...the standard selection process
    at the Royal Institute of Technology.
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    All my publications were submitted.
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    Three professors
    and two international experts-
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    -deemed that I was eligible
    for the appointment.
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    Thank you.
    Please just answer the questions.
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    How low can you sink?
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    They're so afraid of
    the result of your research.
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    They can't attack you there, so they
    attack you on a personal level.
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    The Royal Institute of Technology.
    Professor Roger Wallis.
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    I think it's sick to attack
    the academic world like this.
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    It's not the first time. I've heard
    about professors in the US-
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    -who have indicated that file sharing
    could be positive for the industry-
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    -that have been hunted down
    with a whip.
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    It's sad that these American methods
    are coming to Sweden.
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    Would you like any compensation
    for participating today?
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    Please send flowers to my wife
    for the sleepless night.
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    The court's budget
    will not allow that.
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    It's now two or three days
    since the court appearance.
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    I'm starting to look through
    all the blogs around the world.
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    I'm looking here at "TorrentFreak":
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    "Pirate Bay witness
    overwhelmed with flowers."
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    And an awful lot
    of very kind people who wrote:
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    "At last somebody from the older
    generation"... I'm an old man.
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    ..."seems to understand
    the way we think."
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    I also make the point here
    that as a composer...
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    A song I wrote
    bought our first house.
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    I support copyright, but only
    if it encourages creativity-
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    -or economic incitement
    or is an incentive to create.
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    Not copyright
    as a huge control mechanism-
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    -for people who sit
    on large swathes of rights.
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    A police officer that worked with
    the Pirate Bay investigation-
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    -was employed by a film studio
    shortly after the investigation.
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    In an email, Warner Bros. states
    that the information in the media-
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    -about an alleged conflict
    of interest is pure speculation.
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    He sold his apartment and bought
    a house. Just after he got the job.
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    I was disappointed
    when you didn't investigate him.
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    You're claiming stuff
    I don't have a clue about.
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    You should gather material
    and submit it to the police.
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    I did, but they dropped the case.
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    Well... In that case
    there is nothing I can do.
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    His income that year
    is higher than his police salary.
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    He has declared
    capital gains of $120 000.
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    This fucking trial just gets
    more and more bizarre every day.
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    I think there's been a power cut
    at the Pirate Bay again.
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    -Why do you use automatic fuses?
    -They're attached to the cable cover.
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    When an automatic fuse dies 5 times
    you have to replace it.
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    My laptops break all the time so I
    don't have time to put stickers on.
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    I spilled gin and tonic in one.
    I spilled beer in another.
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    And I fell on one
    and smashed the screen.
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    -Do you have WIFI here?
    -Yes, it's called "bambuser".
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    -Doesn't it work?
    -Key... Bambuser...
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    -WTF!
    -Stop shouting.
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    I have abstinence! I haven't
    been on the internet all day.
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    you have received an email-
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    -that you forwarded
    to Gottfrid and Peter Sunde.
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    Why did you forward it?
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    I didn't. Every mail
    that contains DMCA-
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    -is automatically forwarded
    to Gottfrid and Peter.
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    I have a lot of abbreviations
    in my filter.
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    -Who programmed the abbreviations?
    -I did.
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    -Why?
    -Because I got a lot of spam.
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    Why would you consider an email-
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    -called "Copyright Claim" as spam?
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    Spam are emails
    that I haven't requested.
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    Fredrik Neij stated
    that as soon as he got an email-
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    -from someone
    representing copyright owners-
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    -it was forwarded to you
    from his computer. Is that correct?
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    Since no one seems capable
    to do what we've told them-
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    -i.e. contact the user
    that uploaded the material-
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    -those complaints
    have either been ignored-
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    -or been replied to
    in more or less well-phrased ways.
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    Why was it sent to you?
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    I express myself well in writing,
    as opposed to Fredrik.
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    But such a claim didn't result
    in anything but scorn and ridicule?
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    The first 100 times it resulted in us
    saying: "Contact the uploader."
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    -And the following 100 times?
    -Then we lost our patience.
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    The Company PRQ...
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    -Was it a web hotel?
    -Yes, it had just been founded.
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    Is it correct that the prosecution
    confiscated 195 servers-
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    -and that 11
    belonged to the Pirate Bay?
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    11 or 13, I don't remember exactly.
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    This is outrageous.
    This is a true injustice.
  • 28:17 - 28:22
    They're attacking a company that has
    nothing to do with the Pirate Bay.
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    Simply because the co-founders were
    involved with the Pirate Bay for fun.
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    Thanks to the raid
    PRQ got a lot of attention.
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    Everybody knew that we never
    give any information to the police.
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    Our customer database
    was encrypted.
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    The police seized our servers, but
    didn't get any customer information.
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    When the Pirate Bay
    was shut down after the raid-
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    -you didn't have
    any servers left, right?
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    You were back online after three days.
    Where did you get the servers?
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    We leased servers from a company
    called NFOrce in Holland.
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    It's a co-location company.
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    -How was that received?
    -With standing ovations.
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    It's a pleasure to announce
    that the Pirate Bay is back online!
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    In your face, Hollywood!
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    -Peter!
    -Yes? I'll be there soon!
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    That's how you have treated me. I get
    letters from your lawyers saying:
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    "Swedish law cannot protect you.
    US law will get you".
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    You put private detectives on us.
    I've had two outside my house.
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    -I know nothing about that.
    -But it's your responsibility.
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    It could have been the film industry.
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    -No, it was the music industry.
    -Ok.
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    TPB isn't interested
    in music and movies.
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    TPB is a generic medium for
    distribution of all types of files.
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    People shouldn't say that TPB only is about
    spreading illegal movies and music.
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    Then your world is this small.
    It's your loss.
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    Instead we could say
    that file sharing is good.
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    Then we could focus on ways
    to let artists make money.
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    -We think file sharing is good.
    -Sure, but you sue everyone.
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    No. We don't want
    to prosecute anyone.
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    We just want people in Sweden
    to start respecting copyright laws.
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    What was the purpose of
    the Pirate Bay in your opinion?
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    We never spoke about purposes.
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    If it was about reforming laws
    or if it was about-
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    -hatred against some Americans.
    I don't know their purpose.
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    But for Fredrik, and it was
    Fredrik I was dealing with-
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    -the purpose was to make it
    a big site. The biggest site in the world.
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    From my point of view I liked the
    idea of the world's biggest site.
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    -How is the Pirate Bay financed?
    -How the website is financed?
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    We have ads on the site
    that generate money.
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    A guy called Lundström
    helped you financially, didn't he?
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    Yes, we we're sponsored
    by a company called Rix Telecom.
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    -What was his purpose?
    -Free advertising for his company.
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    Carl Lundström is an interesting guy.
  • 31:57 - 32:01
    He's behind
    many right-wing organizations.
  • 32:01 - 32:05
    Carl Lundström
    has apparently given money to...
  • 32:05 - 32:09
    Answer the question!
    Did he represent these organizations?
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    It really bugs me-
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    -that everybody looks at us
    as right-wing extremists.
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    It makes me really hurt and angry.
    My brother is a convicted anarchist.
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    He's been in court,
    defending his opinions.
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    We've both been on
    a neo-Nazi organization's hit list.
  • 32:32 - 32:37
    It feels strange to be accused of
    founding that neo-Nazi organization.
  • 32:37 - 32:38
    It's really hard.
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    I can only stand behind
    my own politics.
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    When you have some influence
    and people listen to you-
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    -you should use that position
    to do something good.
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    When did you become
    the Pirate Bay's spokesperson?
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    Well, it's not an official title, but
    a function that has been given to me.
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    Nobody wanted to do that part,
    but it was important to communicate-
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    -that the Pirate Bay
    was doing something important.
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    Since nobody else wanted to,
    I started doing it.
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    What was Peter Sunde's role
    during that time?
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    He showed up
    when we needed a public face.
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    Since neither I nor Fredrik
    are suited in furnished rooms.
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    So he had nothing
    to do with running the site.
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    -Or any design?
    -No.
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    -Funding?
    -No.
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    It's AIM. You told me it was MSN.
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    What's the fucking difference?
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    They're two different networks.
    It's like IRCnet and EFnet.
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    -Come on!
    -It was the Museum of Modern Art...
  • 34:04 - 34:07
    You're so loud!
    You give me a headache.
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    -I'm half deaf, of course I shout.
    -You're making me deaf.
  • 34:13 - 34:16
    He wants to spread his misery.
  • 34:16 - 34:22
    -Why can't you hear anything?
    -Sex, drugs and industry!
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    Sex?
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    I've heard your sex stories.
  • 34:33 - 34:35
    How much does a banner cost?
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    You are asking me about
    5-year-old figures again.
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    If you give me a day I can
    probably find some examples.
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    But I can't give you
    any exact figures.
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    Does $500 per week sound
    like a reasonable amount?
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    That sounds about right.
    It's within the right range at least.
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    Within the right range, you say.
  • 35:00 - 35:06
    Was there an agreement about how
    the ad revenue was to be divided?
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    -I have no idea.
    -You don't. Fine.
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    -I'm so fucking tired.
    -This will be your life for 5 years.
  • 35:16 - 35:19
    Are you Kafka or what?
  • 35:19 - 35:22
    It feels like "The Trial"
    all over again.
  • 35:22 - 35:25
    I might wake up as Gregor Samsa
    and can't go to work-
  • 35:25 - 35:29
    -because I've turned into a beetle.
  • 35:30 - 35:33
    When do you go back to Cambodia?
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    -As soon as this shit is over.
    -Quiet. It's a secret.
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    What are your thoughts
    in general about the case?
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    It will be nice when it's over.
    Tomorrow it's just half the day.
  • 36:01 - 36:05
    And after the closing arguments
    we're finished.
  • 36:05 - 36:07
    How much money
    are they looking for?
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    They want around
    20 million Euro in damages.
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    But good luck finding that money.
    I don't have that kind of money.
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    If they knew that our entire office
    is a chat room on IRC-
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    -they wouldn't believe it.
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    And they don't because they've been
    asking questions about companies.
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    Yeah, we tried to get organized,
    but we failed every single time.
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    I don't think they can grasp the idea
    of an organization without a boss.
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    People have no idea how small we are.
    We're just a couple of guys in a chat room.
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    I've argued that the yearly
    profit is at least $170,000.
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    And that's the minimum.
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    Gottfrid Svartholm Warg stated-
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    -that the price for an ad on TPB
    was $500 per week.
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    The report from
    the Forensic Laboratory-
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    -states that
    at the time of the raid-
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    - there were 64 unique ads.
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    A rough estimate...
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    $500 times 64-
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    - gives us $34 000 per week.
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    That amount times 52 weeks,
    i.e. weeks per year-
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    -makes a yearly
    revenue of $ 1700 000.
  • 38:09 - 38:13
    Thus The Pirate Bay isn't idealistic.
  • 38:13 - 38:17
    It's pure commercial business.
  • 38:27 - 38:31
    Here we go. 4 times 52.
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    $110 000. That's a massive sum.
    We never got that kind of money back then.
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    If you calculate with the right
    number of ads - 4 instead of 64-
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    -you get a much more
    realistic figure.
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    But he has miscalculated
    so many things.
  • 38:47 - 38:53
    Did Roswall mean 64 different ads,
    or 4 ads times a bunch of pages?
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    -Yes.
    -What the hell! Is he insane?
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    He's right behind you.
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    We're thinking of doing a
    Bambuser press conference.
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    Hell no!! No! No!
    They keep calling us organized.
  • 39:10 - 39:13
    They don't understand
    what a joke that is.
  • 39:13 - 39:18
    It's disorganized crime.
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    You mean for all of you? I think
    you are going to get convicted.
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    Take a picture of Monique.
    It's her copyright.
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    -I'm leaving.
    -Bye bye.
  • 39:39 - 39:42
    Do you need a hand?
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    This is the only help
    you'll ever get from me.
  • 39:45 - 39:48
    -That's so kind.
    -I am kind.
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    And I still have my soul, too.
  • 39:52 - 39:55
    Here's Fredrik,
    let's get out of here.
  • 39:59 - 40:04
    Let's calculate
    how much money we have earned.
  • 40:04 - 40:08
    Let's start with
    an exponential function.
  • 40:11 - 40:14
    -You can add times 64.
    -Right.
  • 40:14 - 40:18
    And for N we choose
    a random number.
  • 40:18 - 40:22
    Between 10 and 5 200.
    Do you write code in Swedish?
  • 40:22 - 40:26
    Now take the square root
    to see what Monique's soul costs.
  • 40:28 - 40:31
    The answer?
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    Do it mathematically correct.
  • 40:36 - 40:39
    Come on, not Pi.
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    He's mad.
    Go check that it's correct.
  • 40:48 - 40:51
    Okay. I'll give you some cred.
  • 40:51 - 40:56
    It's in my muscle memory. I can't
    remember it writing with a pen.
  • 40:56 - 40:58
    I have to emulate a keyboard.
  • 40:58 - 41:01
    So what are you doing
    at 11.00 on the 17th of April?
  • 41:02 - 41:04
    Queuing outside the court?
  • 41:04 - 41:09
    -11 am means 5 pm local time.
    -I was thinking the same thing.
  • 41:09 - 41:12
    Gottfrid, can you sit over here?
  • 41:12 - 41:17
    I'm not taking part in any fucking
    press conference. I'm sick of it!
  • 41:17 - 41:23
    -It's in English.
    -I'm so fucking tired of cameras.
  • 41:24 - 41:27
    -And fucking bullshit!
    -Sit here anyway. It's the last time.
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    Nein.
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    Hi everybody.
  • 41:35 - 41:39
    I'm here and together with me
    I have some of the guys from TPB.
  • 41:39 - 41:43
    Take your time and ask
    some questions to the guys-
  • 41:43 - 41:47
    -and see what they have to say.
  • 41:48 - 41:51
    -I didn't know we were that boring.
    -You are that boring.
  • 41:51 - 41:56
    Because you're not part of this.
    Film him!
  • 41:57 - 41:59
    Anakata!
  • 42:10 - 42:14
    Today the court will decide if
    the men behind the Pirate Bay-
  • 42:15 - 42:17
    -are guilty of
    copyright infringement.
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    Follow the verdict live on svt.se
    from 11.00.
  • 42:25 - 42:31
    No, but... Sure, but don't worry.
  • 42:31 - 42:36
    Because I'm not worried myself.
    But I'll talk to you later. Bye.
  • 42:38 - 42:42
    Dad was more nervous than I am.
  • 42:46 - 42:52
    The verdict is in for the Pirate
    Bay trial. It's 11 o'clock.
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    All four defendants are sentenced
    to one year in prison.
  • 42:57 - 43:02
    The offense is called "assisting
    copyright infringement".
  • 43:02 - 43:07
    - So one year imprisonment...
    -This is so insane!
  • 43:14 - 43:17
    This must be a joke.
  • 43:22 - 43:26
    Take it easy, mom.
    Nothing will happen.
  • 43:26 - 43:28
    This is going to take 5 years.
    Take it easy.
  • 43:29 - 43:35
    The District Court is ruled by
    politicians. We call it the Dice Court.
  • 43:41 - 43:44
    Just stay calm.
  • 43:45 - 43:51
    But I can't talk right now. I have
    to watch the press conference.
  • 43:51 - 43:55
    Okay. Take care.
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    The District Court has announced
    the verdict in the Pirate Bay trial.
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    We have estimated the damages
    to approximately $4,5 million.
  • 44:06 - 44:10
    Fuck you. He's going to get
    a good job in Hollywood after this.
  • 44:15 - 44:18
    This is so insane!
  • 44:25 - 44:27
    The hottest set up ever.
  • 44:28 - 44:31
    I don't have time right now,
    I have to decline.
  • 44:32 - 44:36
    No, I'm the only one in Sweden. The
    others are in the desert or the jungle.
  • 44:36 - 44:41
    No, they are not going
    to send us to jail whatsoever.
  • 44:41 - 44:45
    The way it works in Sweden
    is that they can't...
  • 44:45 - 44:50
    ...do anything about the case
    before we can't appeal anymore.
  • 44:54 - 44:58
    -What are we going to call this?
    -LOL?
  • 44:58 - 45:01
    For the lulz.
  • 45:01 - 45:04
    If this was a movie
    this is where the heroes-
  • 45:04 - 45:07
    -encounter their first problem.
  • 45:07 - 45:11
    Karate Kid got bullied in the
    beginning and got beaten up.
  • 45:11 - 45:14
    And we've just been beaten up.
  • 45:14 - 45:20
    Thanks, Hollywood, for teaching
    us that the good guys win in the end.
  • 45:20 - 45:25
    In total they wanted around
    100 million Swedish crowns, right?
  • 45:26 - 45:29
    And they got 30 million.
  • 45:29 - 45:34
    But they could have gotten 1 billion,
    it doesn't matter because...
  • 45:34 - 45:38
    We can't pay and we wouldn't pay.
  • 45:38 - 45:42
    This verdict makes me upset
    to the bone.
  • 45:42 - 45:47
    There is no chance in hell
    this verdict will hold in an appeal.
  • 45:47 - 45:53
    I will cross the creek, the stream
    and the Atlantic for a redress.
  • 45:53 - 45:57
    It means a lot
    to have taken a stand.
  • 45:57 - 46:02
    It's important to re-establish Sweden
    as a state governed by law.
  • 46:02 - 46:06
    The judge in the Pirate Bay trial
    is accused of bias.
  • 46:06 - 46:10
    People are demanding a retrial.
  • 46:10 - 46:17
    Last night I learned about
    the news that blew up today.
  • 46:17 - 46:20
    The judge in the Pirate Bay trial-
  • 46:20 - 46:26
    -is a member of organizations that
    are working with copyright issues.
  • 46:26 - 46:30
    Organizations that the attorneys
    from the plaintiff's are part of.
  • 46:31 - 46:35
    I was horrified and shocked
    to learn about this.
  • 46:35 - 46:40
    -Why didn't you inform the court?
    -Good question. I didn't.
  • 46:40 - 46:43
    Yes, I know how he thought.
  • 46:43 - 46:47
    "My friends will be happy
    if I rule in their favor."
  • 46:47 - 46:50
    It's ridiculous. I didn't think
    the legal system was that bad.
  • 46:50 - 46:55
    -Was it a correct decision?
    -That's for others to decide.
  • 47:11 - 47:18
    It's Tomas, the judge.
    He's the judge in the District Court.
  • 47:18 - 47:24
    He's a member of the
    Swedish Association for Copyright.
  • 47:24 - 47:27
    That's the whole point.
  • 47:27 - 47:32
    He sits in the board for the Swedish
    Association for Industrial Rights.
  • 47:32 - 47:38
    These two organizations
    have a common publication, NIR.
  • 47:38 - 47:43
    And all the lawyers
    that assist the prosecution:
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    Peter Danowsky, Henrik Pontén
    and Monique Wadsted.
  • 47:46 - 47:50
    They're all members
    of the same organization.
  • 47:54 - 48:00
    So he looks very mixed up
    in these people's world.
  • 48:00 - 48:05
    From a graphical point of view
    it's very obvious.
  • 48:05 - 48:07
    I can't say if he was biased-
  • 48:07 - 48:11
    -but just the fact that he
    withheld this information-
  • 48:11 - 48:16
    -makes him unsuitable
    as a judge in this case.
  • 48:16 - 48:20
    The verdict is questionable, since he
    might be perceived as being biased.
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    -Here's my pirate copy.
    -I have a parasite.
  • 49:26 - 49:29
    -Is this you? Fredrik?
    -Yes.
  • 49:29 - 49:35
    -What's your job?
    - IT. Internet.
  • 49:35 - 49:40
    Because of our tradition
    and the regulations of the village-
  • 49:40 - 49:43
    -you have to pay for the engagement.
  • 49:43 - 49:48
    How much would you like
    to pay for the engagement?
  • 49:49 - 49:54
    $6,000?
  • 49:58 - 50:04
    If you leave her you have to pay
    the bride dowry times two.
  • 50:04 - 50:08
    That means $12,000. Agreed?
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    Please write your name and sign it.
  • 50:19 - 50:22
    Do you like it? Good.
  • 50:28 - 50:33
    -Yummy! Yummy!
    -Hello!
  • 50:33 - 50:37
    If it didn't cost me $12,000
    I would divorce you.
  • 50:45 - 50:51
    It's always this way with the
    Pirate Bay. Chaos and cheating.
  • 50:52 - 50:56
    Last Monday a verdict came
    from the Stockholm District court-
  • 50:56 - 50:58
    -where Judge Norström is chairman.
  • 50:58 - 51:05
    Black Internet, the ISP
    for Pirate Bay's ISP must quit-
  • 51:05 - 51:08
    -and if they continue to
    give access to the Pirate Bay-
  • 51:09 - 51:12
    -they will be fined $75 000 per day.
  • 51:12 - 51:16
    Then all hell broke loose.
  • 51:19 - 51:23
    So they're trying legal tricks
    and we're trying technical tricks.
  • 51:23 - 51:29
    It's like a constant tactical game
    with different weapons.
  • 51:33 - 51:37
    When we realized that
    the Pirate Bay was down-
  • 51:37 - 51:41
    -we looked around,
    because we always have backups.
  • 51:41 - 51:48
    Then I realized that the Pirate Party
    had registered their own ISP.
  • 51:48 - 51:52
    The Pirate Party works for reformed
    copyright laws, an open internet-
  • 51:52 - 51:54
    -and free access to culture.
  • 51:56 - 51:59
    I realized that if we're hosted
    by the Pirate Party-
  • 51:59 - 52:06
    -it means that if someone closes them
    down, they're closing down the party.
  • 52:06 - 52:11
    That means closing down a party
    that represents Sweden in the EU.
  • 52:11 - 52:15
    That would be political censorship
    on the highest level.
  • 52:17 - 52:21
    If you're hosted by the Pirate Party
    you get political protection.
  • 52:22 - 52:25
    You could say that you get
    diplomatic immunity.
  • 52:28 - 52:32
    After days of speculation "Rapport"
    can now reveal that the Pirate Party-
  • 52:33 - 52:37
    -takes over the responsibility for
    the security of WikiLeaks' servers.
  • 52:38 - 52:42
    WikiLeaks or the Pirate Party copied
    what they had done with TPB.
  • 52:43 - 52:47
    Giving WikiLeaks protection
    by a political party-
  • 52:47 - 52:51
    -by sharing
    the same internet connection.
  • 52:51 - 52:56
    Every leak on WikiLeaks has been released on
    TPB since there is no censorship there.
  • 52:58 - 53:01
    Gottfrid is good at tech stuff
    and encryption-
  • 53:02 - 53:05
    -and he's worked on
    many important projects.
  • 53:05 - 53:08
    Like "Collateral Murder"
    that made WikiLeaks famous.
  • 53:15 - 53:17
    "Look at those dead bastards"
  • 53:23 - 53:27
    Julian has a lot of respect
    for Gottfrid.
  • 53:27 - 53:32
    I remember when Gottfrid said:
    "There's a new customer, WikiLeaks."
  • 53:32 - 53:35
    "They need help
    because they're under attack."
  • 53:36 - 53:40
    The first time I got in contact
    was when we had to pay a bill.
  • 53:41 - 53:44
    Because no one, and
    that was a constant problem...
  • 53:44 - 53:46
    No one remembered
    the stupid customer number.
  • 53:47 - 53:50
    And no one wanted to say
    anything on the phone.
  • 53:50 - 53:56
    In 2008 I flew to Sweden
    to pay the bill in cash.
  • 53:56 - 53:59
    Gottfrid always said he didn't
    want money from WikiLeaks.
  • 53:59 - 54:04
    I flew there and paid for
    one year and a bit in advance.
  • 54:04 - 54:08
    Julian was with me.
    He flew in as well.
  • 54:08 - 54:13
    And we arranged this meeting
    with Gottfrid to hand over the money.
  • 54:13 - 54:17
    And it was one of the
    weirdest incidents in my life.
  • 54:17 - 54:23
    He came to the hotel and he had
    someone waiting outside in a car.
  • 54:23 - 54:31
    And they had an agreement that
    Gottfrid would be near a window.
  • 54:31 - 54:35
    So he stood there in this lobby.
  • 54:35 - 54:40
    With his long hair,
    looking completely...
  • 54:40 - 54:44
    -Strange! Fucked up.
    -And he behaved really strange.
  • 54:44 - 54:51
    And every 30 seconds he turned to
    see if the guy in the car was there.
  • 54:51 - 54:55
    And Julian and I were standing
    there and we basically thought-
  • 54:55 - 54:59
    -that we would go hang out
    or something.
  • 54:59 - 55:04
    So we asked him if he
    wanted to come up to the room.
  • 55:04 - 55:10
    And he was like: "No, no, I can't."
    He was turning around.
  • 55:10 - 55:12
    Never heard that before.
  • 55:12 - 55:16
    And then handing over some cash
    and the guy jumped in the car-
  • 55:16 - 55:20
    -and they drove off
    and we felt like...
  • 55:20 - 55:23
    That was meeting PRQ for us.
  • 55:26 - 55:29
    A warm welcome to Peter Sunde.
  • 55:31 - 55:36
    First question: Are you a killer
    that ruined the whole industry?
  • 55:36 - 55:40
    I would love to take credit for it but I can't.
    Sorry. They did it themselves.
  • 55:40 - 55:44
    -There is a law case now with you.
    -Just one?
  • 55:44 - 55:47
    I don't know how many but
    some discussions going around.
  • 55:48 - 55:51
    You had a new idea: Flattr.
  • 55:51 - 55:55
    It comes from the discussions
    we had during the Pirate Bay.
  • 55:55 - 56:01
    There were two sides. One side said
    there is no problem with downloading.
  • 56:01 - 56:05
    The other side said they're not
    making any money from the internet.
  • 56:05 - 56:11
    -And there was nothing happening.
    -Can you explain how Flattr works?
  • 56:12 - 56:17
    You as a user sign up
    and you put money into an account.
  • 56:17 - 56:19
    You decide how much
    you want to spend per month.
  • 56:19 - 56:25
    Then you find Flattr buttons. They
    look like the Facebook Like buttons.
  • 56:25 - 56:28
    If you click it we remember it
    until the end of the month.
  • 56:28 - 56:30
    At the end of the month
    we count your clicks-
  • 56:31 - 56:33
    -and we share your money equally
    amongst them.
  • 56:33 - 56:39
    -Where is the money going?
    -It's going to the creators.
  • 56:39 - 56:41
    That's the whole concept.
  • 56:49 - 56:55
    The trial in the Court of Appeal
    against the Pirate Bay began today.
  • 56:55 - 56:58
    Let's shake hands today again.
  • 56:58 - 57:02
    -It's a sick team, right?
    -I'm soaking wet.
  • 57:03 - 57:07
    To rent a car costs $400 per week.
  • 57:07 - 57:10
    I bought that one for $600.
    I'll use it for 6 weeks.
  • 57:10 - 57:14
    -Is it legal?
    -Sure. I've even paid the taxes.
  • 57:15 - 57:22
    I don't really care about parking
    tickets - I have a $7 million debt.
  • 57:25 - 57:30
    The Court of Appeal, please.
  • 57:32 - 57:36
    -Is Gottfrid coming?
    -I highly doubt that.
  • 57:36 - 57:39
    -Unless he teleports himself.
    -Okay.
  • 57:39 - 57:45
    He wrote this morning that he's hospitalized
    with a parasite infection in Cambodia.
  • 57:47 - 57:51
    So yes, it's highly unlikely
    that he'll come.
  • 57:54 - 57:59
    -Do you have any other trials?
    -The civil cases.
  • 57:59 - 58:02
    -The penalty fine stuff.
    -How many are they?
  • 58:03 - 58:07
    One in Italy, one in Holland...
  • 58:07 - 58:12
    One in Denmark that we're not
    summoned to, and one in Norway.
  • 58:12 - 58:16
    Kuwait, Ireland. Anything else?
  • 58:27 - 58:29
    What is the most important?
  • 58:30 - 58:36
    I believe it's very important to look
    at how our society ought to be.
  • 58:36 - 58:39
    Not just rule so that big companies
    can make a bigger profit.
  • 58:41 - 58:44
    How does this feel? 8 days to go.
  • 58:44 - 58:47
    It's boring
    that we're just watching video.
  • 58:47 - 58:52
    You wanted to speak for yourself
    but weren't allowed to, right?
  • 58:52 - 58:55
    I think the new court system
    is really bad.
  • 58:55 - 59:00
    You can't introduce new material.
    We don't even need to be in court.
  • 59:00 - 59:04
    They could just take the old material
    and rule from that.
  • 59:05 - 59:07
    Hey, thanks for coming!
  • 59:08 - 59:12
    -How are you?
    -I'm really sick.
  • 59:12 - 59:16
    Then why the hell
    are you shaking my hand?
  • 59:16 - 59:21
    -He's also sick.
    -What's wrong with you?
  • 59:21 - 59:26
    I have a cold and an eye infection.
    I didn't sleep at all last night.
  • 59:26 - 59:30
    I just got an SMS
    from Gottfrid's mother.
  • 59:30 - 59:37
    She wrote that he is still
    in Cambodia.
  • 59:37 - 59:43
    She said that he is really ill.
  • 59:43 - 59:47
    He's had problems before as well.
  • 59:47 - 59:52
    When you look at him, health
    isn't the first thing you think of.
  • 59:56 - 60:01
    -What are you working with today?
    -I run websites.
  • 60:01 - 60:04
    In Cambodia or Thailand?
  • 60:04 - 60:09
    With the internet you can work anywhere
    as long as you have Internet access.
  • 60:14 - 60:17
    State prosecutor Roswall accused
    the defendants of contempt-
  • 60:17 - 60:21
    -since they have continued
    to run the site after the verdict.
  • 60:21 - 60:25
    He wants the one year imprisonment
    for all four to be affirmed.
  • 61:08 - 61:12
    The tunnel computer is located in
    Pionen with the Pirate Party.
  • 61:15 - 61:19
    Pionen is a show-off in Apple style.
  • 61:22 - 61:27
    The tunnel computer is the entrance
    from the internet to the Pirate Bay.
  • 61:27 - 61:30
    Then everything happens
    in the background somewhere.
  • 61:31 - 61:35
    On the real servers,
    that are hidden.
  • 61:38 - 61:41
    Right now we're on our way
    to the real mountain.
  • 62:34 - 62:37
    That's an expensive table.
  • 62:39 - 62:43
    -6 cores?
    -12 cores.
  • 62:43 - 62:46
    4 CPU's with 12 cores.
  • 62:46 - 62:51
    Here. The Pirate Bay.
    And that's all.
  • 62:51 - 62:53
    We run an efficient ship.
  • 63:02 - 63:07
    Where are the people
    who run the Pirate Bay based now?
  • 63:07 - 63:12
    I don't know. Ask the Pirate Party,
    they are hosting the bandwidth.
  • 63:12 - 63:21
    But it has changed owners after
    we passed it on, too. Once or twice.
  • 63:21 - 63:25
    We miss the support from the
    Pirate Party in the District Court.
  • 63:26 - 63:29
    -With buses and stuff.
    -The buses were the Pirate Bureau.
  • 63:29 - 63:34
    Was it the Pirate Bureau?
    With trumpets and flags and stuff.
  • 63:34 - 63:38
    It feels like they
    have forgotten about us.
  • 63:41 - 63:45
    The pirate movement's idea
    to fight for free file sharing-
  • 63:45 - 63:49
    -just isn't accepted anymore.
  • 63:49 - 63:55
    It was just a little fad.
    I never thought it would survive.
  • 64:02 - 64:05
    -I don't want them.
    -You don't have to sign them.
  • 64:05 - 64:08
    But by law you have been served.
  • 64:08 - 64:12
    What does that mean?
  • 64:13 - 64:17
    -I can't force you to sign.
    -No, you can't.
  • 64:17 - 64:20
    -But you've been served.
    -Who are you?
  • 64:20 - 64:24
    -I'm the subpoena server.
    -Can I see your ID?
  • 64:30 - 64:36
    Can I see the last 4 digits, please?
  • 64:36 - 64:41
    -You should quit smoking.
    -Do I smell?
  • 64:41 - 64:46
    This is stressful for me, too.
  • 64:46 - 64:49
    -Does it feel bad to do this?
    -Kind of.
  • 64:49 - 64:51
    -But they pay you well?
    -No.
  • 64:51 - 64:53
    -Why do you do it?
    -It's my job.
  • 64:53 - 64:57
    Do you have kids? Then I
    understand, but get a better job.
  • 64:57 - 64:59
    I've been thinking about that.
  • 64:59 - 65:05
    -Is this from Danowsky?
    -I don't know what it's about.
  • 65:05 - 65:08
    -So you don't know where it's from?
    -Holland.
  • 65:09 - 65:13
    -Okay. Good luck.
    -Thanks. Likewise.
  • 65:16 - 65:19
    -He's got a great job.
    -I feel sorry for him.
  • 65:19 - 65:22
    I don't. He's like a meter maid.
  • 65:24 - 65:26
    Did you see the debate on TV?
  • 65:26 - 65:32
    A young girl said: "This is not about
    young people wanting to commit crimes."
  • 65:33 - 65:36
    "They just have
    a different consumption pattern."
  • 65:36 - 65:41
    "They just want to consume
    movies and records that way."
  • 65:41 - 65:47
    "It's horrible to hunt them.
    The market must adjust instead."
  • 66:08 - 66:12
    Life is cooler
    than the internet.
  • 66:12 - 66:19
    That's probably a really
    radical opinion around here.
  • 66:19 - 66:23
    After the cold war
    they had to invent enemies-
  • 66:24 - 66:28
    -that you couldn't even kill.
  • 66:28 - 66:31
    Terror, piracy and drugs.
  • 66:31 - 66:35
    It's obvious that PRQ
    has had customers-
  • 66:35 - 66:41
    -that some say are connected to
    terror, piracy and drugs.
  • 66:41 - 66:44
    That can't be denied.
  • 66:44 - 66:48
    I guess all three of them at the
    same time for one single customer.
  • 66:48 - 66:52
    You mean Gottfrid Svartholm Warg!
  • 66:52 - 66:55
    He's a pirate and a junkie.
  • 66:55 - 66:59
    And when you talk to him
    you get a little scared.
  • 66:59 - 67:02
    You could say he's a Taliban.
  • 67:11 - 67:19
    I'm back from Cambodia.
    I've been there for a month.
  • 67:19 - 67:23
    I've been really worried
    about Gottfrid's health.
  • 67:25 - 67:28
    I don't want to talk
    too much about...
  • 67:28 - 67:32
    He hasn't been using stuff
    constantly.
  • 67:32 - 67:36
    It's been every now and then.
    When he has a deadline.
  • 67:36 - 67:41
    He gets stressed by his work
    when something has to be done.
  • 67:41 - 67:44
    So then he does
    a whole lot of drugs.
  • 67:45 - 67:49
    I just couldn't stand by and watch.
  • 67:49 - 67:53
    I've seen friends struggle
    with drugs before.
  • 67:53 - 68:00
    And it's... What can I say?
    It's tough.
  • 68:00 - 68:05
    It's not something you want
    to see a friend go through.
  • 68:25 - 68:28
    -What are we gonna do?
    -Crush racism!
  • 68:28 - 68:30
    -When?
    -Now!
  • 68:31 - 68:33
    -When, when, when?
    -Now, now, now!
  • 68:33 - 68:36
    -What are we gonna do?
    -Crush racism!
  • 68:38 - 68:43
    Brokep/Peter is a fucking
    vegetarian leftist bitch ass bastard.
  • 68:43 - 68:46
    But he's got balls because
    he's in the Pirate Bay?
  • 68:46 - 68:49
    -He's giving all the interviews.
    -He's still a bitch.
  • 68:50 - 68:57
    He does it because of ideological
    pussy-inflicted instincts.
  • 68:57 - 69:02
    He needs to look himself in the ass
    and take his own life in his hands.
  • 69:03 - 69:08
    If he's had a beer or two, he becomes
    the most annoying person on earth.
  • 69:08 - 69:11
    The problem is he takes a
    couple of beers at least everyday.
  • 69:12 - 69:16
    Isn't there some connection
    to right-wing parties in Sweden?
  • 69:16 - 69:20
    Carl Lundström,
    one of the co-defendants-
  • 69:20 - 69:24
    -was a right-wing extremist before.
  • 69:25 - 69:28
    He founded a lot of crap.
    But in the end-
  • 69:28 - 69:32
    -he married a Jewish girl.
    He has four kids.
  • 69:32 - 69:39
    To call him a right-wing extremist
    was correct 10-20 years ago.
  • 69:40 - 69:42
    Now I wouldn't say that.
  • 69:42 - 69:47
    If Carl Lundström
    is xenophobic then so am I.
  • 69:47 - 69:52
    Every time I've been beaten or
    robbed, it's been by immigrants.
  • 69:53 - 69:57
    And I don't mean seventh-generation
    Finnish immigrants.
  • 69:57 - 69:59
    I mean these
    dirty fucking immigrants.
  • 69:59 - 70:05
    What can I say. He's stupid
    when it comes to things like that.
  • 70:05 - 70:10
    He has never thought for himself.
    He just says what his parents say.
  • 70:10 - 70:14
    He's an alcoholic racist asshole.
  • 70:14 - 70:17
    -But I still love him.
    -And you know what?
  • 70:17 - 70:23
    All the emails in the Pirate Bay
    trial comes from Anakata.
  • 70:23 - 70:27
    Anakata the don't-know-how
    to-fucking-encrypt-his-computer!
  • 70:27 - 70:34
    Even Peter and I encrypted
    our emails. But Gottfrid didn't!
  • 70:34 - 70:39
    Gottfrid is the stupidest person
    in the entire history of IT.
  • 70:43 - 70:46
    Yeah, the Pirate Bay is really tight!
  • 70:51 - 70:54
    I have no batteries left.
  • 71:02 - 71:05
    I'm surprised there are no cameras.
  • 71:09 - 71:12
    -Yes, today is the last day.
    -Finally! I'm going home.
  • 71:14 - 71:19
    -You can throw them away.
    -You've been served anyway.
  • 71:19 - 71:22
    Is this gonna come on YouTube?
  • 71:22 - 71:25
    -You can throw them away.
    -You do it.
  • 71:25 - 71:30
    -You can't force me to take them.
    -You've been served.
  • 71:30 - 71:33
    It was you who dropped the papers.
  • 71:51 - 71:54
    Come on!
  • 71:54 - 71:57
    I want to sleep.
  • 72:10 - 72:12
    Sabaidee!
  • 72:17 - 72:20
    When I get acquitted tomorrow
    I'm going to sue them for millions.
  • 72:20 - 72:23
    Billions! At least!
  • 72:23 - 72:29
    We can't be worse than they are with fantasy
    numbers. I landed in Sweden on Saturday.
  • 72:29 - 72:35
    I'm helping out with the new Leaks
    project's servers in the server hall.
  • 72:36 - 72:40
    Everybody has left WikiLeaks
    except for Julian and maybe Anakata.
  • 72:40 - 72:43
    Because he's like
    in love with Julian.
  • 72:43 - 72:48
    Fuck! Blink if you're gonna
    turn, you fucking anus!
  • 72:48 - 72:51
    Goddamnit!
  • 72:56 - 72:59
    -How are you?
    -I'm fine.
  • 73:02 - 73:05
    Nice to see you again.
    You're good?
  • 73:15 - 73:20
    Do these people know what's
    happening in your life today?
  • 73:20 - 73:22
    -No.
    -Not even your wife?
  • 73:22 - 73:24
    Yes.
  • 73:40 - 73:46
    I don't know. For Fredrik it's easy.
    He can just avoid going home.
  • 73:46 - 73:50
    What do you mean? I don't have
    any plans on going home.
  • 73:50 - 73:53
    I really don't know.
    I don't have a clue.
  • 73:53 - 73:57
    I'm hesitating. But I won't
    accept a conviction.
  • 73:57 - 74:02
    I can serve a prison sentence.
    But why do it if I don't have to?
  • 74:02 - 74:06
    There's really no reason
    for you to do that.
  • 74:06 - 74:09
    Look around. Why shouldn't I
    stay here for 5 years?
  • 74:13 - 74:16
    You can't go to jail for something
    you haven't done.
  • 74:16 - 74:19
    Political exile is what it's about.
  • 74:22 - 74:26
    I don't want to become a martyr.
  • 74:26 - 74:29
    But I don't think I'll be convicted.
  • 74:29 - 74:34
    Knock on wood... But we'll see.
  • 74:36 - 74:38
    Cheers!
  • 74:55 - 74:57
    Beer man!
  • 75:04 - 75:08
    Are you going to get drunk
    from happiness or sadness?
  • 75:08 - 75:11
    Can I tell you in 12 minutes?
  • 75:13 - 75:18
    Hey! The internet just synched up!
    I think it's an omen.
  • 75:18 - 75:20
    Stop lagging!
  • 75:20 - 75:25
    "If TPB founders are acquitted, it's
    a victory for internet freedom."
  • 75:25 - 75:28
    Check out my eye infection!
  • 75:28 - 75:33
    "The pirate Gottfrid Svartholm Warg
    handed in a medical statement."
  • 75:33 - 75:36
    Gottfrid Svartholm was "sick".
  • 75:45 - 75:49
    "...was shortened but the damages
    were raised." We're convicted.
  • 75:49 - 75:53
    We're convicted. Domstol.se. It's Spam.
  • 75:54 - 75:59
    Copy the link.
    The link underneath!
  • 76:04 - 76:09
    "The Court of Appeal considers the
    defendants' contribution proven."
  • 76:09 - 76:12
    "Fredrik Neij is sentenced
    to 10 months, Peter Sunde 8"-
  • 76:13 - 76:15
    -"and Carl Lundström to 4 months."
  • 76:15 - 76:17
    -What about Gottfrid?
    -He's not in the case.
  • 76:17 - 76:19
    Right.
  • 76:21 - 76:25
    The damages went up
    from $4,5 million to $6,6 million.
  • 76:28 - 76:32
    Well... We lost.
    Fucking idiots.
  • 76:33 - 76:36
    I'm calling my mom.
  • 76:36 - 76:41
    Hi. I just wanted to say that they
    gave us a shorter sentence.
  • 76:43 - 76:47
    But we're appealing.
    8 months instead of one year.
  • 76:47 - 76:52
    I just wanted to call and
    tell you that. So don't be worried.
  • 76:52 - 76:56
    I have 59 pages I have to read.
  • 76:57 - 77:00
    Okay, great. Take care.
  • 77:10 - 77:13
    Fucking idiots.
  • 77:13 - 77:18
    -The internet just died!
    -Goddamnit! Yes, it did.
  • 77:18 - 77:21
    Fucking Windows crap!
  • 77:21 - 77:24
    The statute of limitation is 5 years.
  • 77:24 - 77:26
    They can't issue an international
    warrant of arrest.
  • 77:26 - 77:30
    I can sit here and jerk off
    for 5 years. And I will.
  • 77:31 - 77:33
    Are you gonna masturbate
    for 5 years? In one go?
  • 77:33 - 77:35
    I'll do it on and off.
  • 77:36 - 77:39
    This means that
    the internet is criminalized.
  • 77:39 - 77:44
    They label the internet as a place where
    crimes are committed. "Close it down."
  • 77:44 - 77:50
    We're not even on BBC or CNN yet!
    That irritates me! Come on!
  • 77:51 - 77:57
    I guess we have to live with the fact
    that we're not important anymore.
  • 78:02 - 78:07
    -The Bay!
    -When does the internet come back?
  • 78:07 - 78:11
    Maybe in 2 hours. If we're lucky.
  • 79:15 - 79:18
    Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends.
  • 79:18 - 79:22
    We are meeting today to discuss-
  • 79:23 - 79:27
    -one of the hot issues right now
    in the European Parliament.
  • 79:27 - 79:32
    Thank you very much for having me.
    It's very brave to invite me here.
  • 79:32 - 79:36
    I've been a pain in the ass for the
    copyright industry for a long time.
  • 79:36 - 79:41
    I'm one of the spokespersons
    for the Pirate Bay.
  • 79:41 - 79:46
    TPB is the largest file
    sharing system in the world.
  • 79:46 - 79:51
    It's ten times larger than Napster
    at it's peak, and it's still growing.
Title:
TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard
Description:

The documentary about the founders of the Pirate Bay. Share it with the world! Support the filmmakers of this free film here www.tpbafk.tv
A film by Simon Klose

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01:22:08

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