WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.132 (A Nonami film) 00:00:03.132 --> 00:00:05.966 (In co-production with Anagram, Final Cut for Real & Piraya Film) 00:00:14.103 --> 00:00:20.813 (In the early years of the 21st century, The Pirate Bay grows into the world's largest sharing site) 00:00:21.644 --> 00:00:28.320 (In 2008, Hollywood and the media industry file a lawsuit against the men behind the site) 00:00:28.966 --> 00:00:35.450 (This Film follows The Pirate Bay founders Gottfrid Swartholm Warg, Friedrik Neij & Peter Sunde) 00:01:40.012 --> 00:01:43.654 (Edit Per K. Kirkegaard) 00:01:47.724 --> 00:01:51.400 Three Swedes were arrested today suspected of running- 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:57.400 -one of the world's biggest websites for illegal downloading... 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:02.040 Good evening. The US government threatened with trade sanctions- 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:05.560 -unless file sharing sites, like the Pirate Bay, are shut down. 00:02:05.720 --> 00:02:10.800 Illegal downloading has upset big organizations in Hollywood... 00:02:10.959 --> 00:02:16.297 The motion picture studios lost an estimated 6.1 billion dollars to piracy. 00:02:16.320 --> 00:02:20.080 The White House forced the Swedish government to intervene. 00:02:20.239 --> 00:02:24.239 We applaud the Swedish authorities for doing that. This was an important site for us to get rid of. 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.040 The police website was attacked on Friday- 00:02:27.307 --> 00:02:30.190 -and last night the government website. 00:02:33.544 --> 00:02:37.378 (A film by Simon Klose) 00:02:40.084 --> 00:02:49.395 (TPB AFK) 00:02:49.395 --> 00:02:58.039 (The Pirate Bay - Away from Keyboard) 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.230 (Stockholm, Sweden - February 2009) 00:03:01.230 --> 00:03:04.640 The trial against the founders of the Pirate Bay begins tomorrow. 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.280 Today they met the press. 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:17.640 What will happen to the Pirate Bay if you're found guilty? 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:20.280 Nothing. 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:24.360 What are they going to do about it? They've failed shutting it down once. 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.680 They're welcome to come and fail again. 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.040 It's not the Pirate Bay that's going to court tomorrow. 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:38.840 It is about getting us who are connected to the Pirate Bay- 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.840 -into a political trial. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.959 The trial tomorrow is not about the law, it's about politics. 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.879 Half of all BitTorrent traffic is coordinated by the Pirate Bay. (BITTORENT Helps people share files with each other) 00:03:54.040 --> 00:03:57.080 It's extreme amounts of traffic. 00:03:57.239 --> 00:04:00.680 There are 22-25 million users at this very moment. 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.200 A user is defined as one ongoing upload or download. 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:06.640 Any questions? Please. 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:08.320 Where is Fredrik? 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.320 Where is Fredrik? 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:11.760 We don't know. 00:04:11.920 --> 00:04:16.320 He was supposed to be here but he's probably hungover. 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:19.520 The first question: Where is Fredrik? 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:23.879 I said that Fredrik likes to party. 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.800 I didn't want to lie and tell them I knew where he was. 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.720 I tried to get hold of Fredrik all day yesterday. 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:39.879 I called him a couple of times and finally he answered. 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.040 He says: "Do you know where I am?" 00:04:43.200 --> 00:04:46.920 I go: "No." "I'm at Arlanda Airport." 00:04:47.080 --> 00:04:51.280 "Why is that?" "I'm leaving." 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.879 What? 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.439 He said that he had bought a ticket- 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:04.600 -to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. What a great name for an escape plan. 00:05:04.760 --> 00:05:12.239 So his plan was to head home to his girlfriend in Laos. 00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:18.520 Live with her and not give a shit about anything. 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:25.000 Then suddenly he texted me: 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:28.600 "I think it's the Security Service. The plane is broken." 00:05:28.760 --> 00:05:33.320 "So where are you now?" "On my way back to the hotel." 00:05:33.479 --> 00:05:35.720 Phew! 00:05:39.520 --> 00:05:44.080 The interest for the file-sharing trial in Stockholm is massive. 00:05:44.165 --> 00:05:47.744 (Stocksholms Tingsrätt - District Court) 00:05:48.021 --> 00:05:52.600 You can't seriously think that you can stop our world- 00:05:52.760 --> 00:05:56.000 -our everyday, our reality. 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:07.600 This is so gay. 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:30.640 Monique Wadsted. 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.720 I also represent the gaming industry. But not music. 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.160 We have the biggest damage claim. 00:06:40.320 --> 00:06:44.920 I represent some of the big film studios in Hollywood. 00:06:45.080 --> 00:06:51.000 Warner Bros., Columbia, 20th Century Fox and MGM. 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.040 We're demanding compensations of $13 million. 00:06:55.200 --> 00:06:59.200 It might seem insanely high. 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:06.479 That should be seen as an indicator of how big this business is. 00:07:06.640 --> 00:07:10.280 Because this is about 5 movies during 6 months. 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:14.920 "The Pink Panther", "Syriana", one "Harry Potter"- 00:07:15.080 --> 00:07:18.320 -"Prison Break" and "Walk The Line". 00:07:18.479 --> 00:07:21.119 There is no doubt about what they have done. 00:07:21.280 --> 00:07:24.879 They have run a commercial business and making a profit. 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.239 The penalty for this type of activity is prison. 00:07:29.400 --> 00:07:31.520 Not fines. 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:37.239 Fredrik would like to tell his version before the prosecutor starts. 00:07:37.400 --> 00:07:42.160 Is that accepted by the prosecutor? You may begin, Fredrik Neij. 00:07:42.320 --> 00:07:49.280 I want to start by saying that I have a great interest in computers and IT. 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:53.400 And especially for internet and networks. 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:59.600 And that I... Well... 00:07:59.760 --> 00:08:04.160 ...I've lost my train of thought. 00:08:04.320 --> 00:08:10.200 You forgot what you were saying. You had a long interest in IT. 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:16.520 I got involved in the Pirate Bay because of my interest in IT. 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:21.800 I think it's great fun to work with technology. 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.680 For me, the Pirate Bay is a technical challenge. 00:08:26.840 --> 00:08:33.000 To run such a large website and such a large tracker technically. 00:08:33.160 --> 00:08:41.680 Play with computers that I could never afford to play with on my own. 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.040 First I want to ask you... 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:51.000 The media often describes you as a computer genius. 00:08:51.160 --> 00:08:54.920 How would you describe your competence yourself? 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:57.760 I do have a certain technical competence, yes. 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:03.680 What does "a certain" mean, compared to others? 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:11.280 I'm not sure this is the right time, place or medium to post my CV. 00:09:11.439 --> 00:09:15.800 But I am asking you. Please answer politely. 00:09:15.959 --> 00:09:21.200 I decline to answer that question. It's too much of an estimation. 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.239 -It's what? -Too hard to estimate. 00:09:24.400 --> 00:09:28.560 -Too hard to estimate? - It's a very difficult question. 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:32.560 How did you meet Fredrik and Gottfrid? 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:39.360 I don't remember, but I assume it was in a chat room on the internet. 00:09:39.520 --> 00:09:42.840 When was the first time you met IRL? 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:48.520 We don't use the expression IRL. We say AFK. But that's another issue. 00:09:48.680 --> 00:09:51.360 I don't remember that either. 00:09:51.520 --> 00:09:54.600 Got to know each other IRL? What is that? 00:09:54.760 --> 00:09:57.680 In Real Life. 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:01.520 We don't like that expression. We say AFK - Away From Keyboard. 00:10:01.680 --> 00:10:04.119 We think that the internet is for real. 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.119 This is what our office looks like. 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:18.600 Is this inside the Pirate Bay? 00:10:18.760 --> 00:10:25.680 Yes. Here are some of the people working on it. 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.439 -Are they working on it now? -Yes. 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.280 Where are they based? In Sweden? 00:10:32.439 --> 00:10:37.920 Let's see. USA, USA, USA or England, England. 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.680 Finland, I think. 00:11:00.439 --> 00:11:02.720 The Pirate Bay. 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:08.200 This is the web server. Data base and search function. 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:12.239 The trackers are over there. 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:17.760 This little piece is the tracker. It's the world's biggest tracker. 00:11:17.920 --> 00:11:21.720 It coordinates 50% of the world's BitTorrent traffic. 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:26.160 Not so many computers, but powerful and well-configured. 00:11:47.680 --> 00:11:50.479 Half the day has gone. How did it feel in court? 00:11:50.640 --> 00:11:52.680 So far it's been boring. 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:58.080 The prosecutors' strategy is to lie as much as possible in the most boring possible way - 00:11:58.239 --> 00:12:02.200 -so you fall asleep in court and become physically undable to defend yourself. 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:08.640 Some say that you've made a lot of money by spreading illegal material. 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:13.520 We've probably made a lot of money, but the site costs a lot, too. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:20.239 Hi. Okay, we're coming down. Bye. 00:12:20.400 --> 00:12:25.239 -Let's eat. -Okay. Nothing vegetarian. 00:12:25.400 --> 00:12:31.040 Aren't you working on the site we're on trial for while in court? 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:38.080 The pirated Depeche Mode CD I have in my laptop is even funnier. 00:12:42.040 --> 00:12:43.959 He'll open in 5 minutes. 00:12:44.119 --> 00:12:49.160 How the hell can prosecutor Roswall mix up megabit and megabyte? 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:55.600 Generally speaking, for storage you use byte and when you measure speed you use bit. 00:13:12.560 --> 00:13:18.200 It all started with Gottfrid's site "America's Dumbest Soldiers". 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.520 It was a site where you could rate from 1 to 10. 00:13:21.680 --> 00:13:26.239 It was American soldiers who died in the first Iraq war. 00:13:26.400 --> 00:13:30.360 Then you could rate how stupid they were- 00:13:30.520 --> 00:13:33.879 -depending on how silly their deaths were. 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:39.320 Neither the American government nor anybody else appreciated the site. 00:13:39.479 --> 00:13:42.840 I had a spare line which I let him use for the site. 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.479 It was from British Telecom. 00:13:45.640 --> 00:13:51.280 Someone at the US State Department called the head of British Telecom. 00:13:51.439 --> 00:13:57.280 He called the head of the operator in Sweden where I worked. 00:13:57.439 --> 00:14:01.640 So the US government ordered us to remove the site. 00:14:01.800 --> 00:14:04.840 We fought them for a long time before we removed it. 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.239 We argued that it was freedom of speech and parody. 00:14:09.400 --> 00:14:14.400 After a while we closed it down, when it became too much of a fuss. 00:14:14.560 --> 00:14:20.600 Two months later Gottfrid needed more bandwidth for the Pirate Bay. 00:14:20.760 --> 00:14:24.920 I still had that line available. We used it for the Pirate Bay. 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:38.479 Hearing with the defendant Peter Sunde. The prosecution may begin. 00:14:41.040 --> 00:14:45.439 Is it true that among the Pirate Bay computers- 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.800 -you stored one that you owned? 00:14:47.959 --> 00:14:51.560 I bought a computer that I gave to the Pirate Bureau. 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.520 What is the Pirate Bureau? 00:14:54.680 --> 00:15:00.479 It's an organization that discusses the internet. 00:15:00.640 --> 00:15:06.239 Is copyright and file sharing discussed on their website? 00:15:06.400 --> 00:15:07.760 Probably. 00:15:07.920 --> 00:15:12.040 And they are critical to the way copyright works today? 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:17.680 I'm not sure about that. People have different views. 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.760 What's your opinion? 00:15:21.920 --> 00:15:25.160 It's hard to say. 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:29.119 I think it's problematic. 00:15:29.280 --> 00:15:32.320 In what way? 00:15:32.479 --> 00:15:36.879 The fact that we're here today shows that there is a problem. 00:15:44.400 --> 00:15:47.760 First of all, I don't believe- 00:15:47.920 --> 00:15:55.400 -that young people today believe that copyright is wrong. 00:15:55.560 --> 00:15:58.400 I think that's a myth. 00:15:58.560 --> 00:16:04.000 This Kopimi Sect- 00:16:04.160 --> 00:16:07.160 -has been really good at promoting it. 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:15.800 It's so fucking beautiful! 00:16:22.239 --> 00:16:25.200 We've changed it a bit. 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.439 So the question in the newspaper was: 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:33.119 "If the Pirate Bay gets convicted, won't they become martyrs?" 00:16:33.280 --> 00:16:37.040 Monique said: "No, they don't have any followers." 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:42.000 "However, they do have a small Kopimi sect following them". 00:16:44.920 --> 00:16:47.520 So sweet. That's us! 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:53.680 The Pirate Bureau came into existence in the summer of 2003. 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.320 It was at the same time- 00:16:56.479 --> 00:17:01.479 -as the record industry sued Napster in the US- 00:17:01.640 --> 00:17:07.920 -and the medical industry sued South Africa for copying HIV-medicine. 00:17:08.080 --> 00:17:11.520 The name "the Pirate Bureau" was an easy choice. 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:17.239 It wasn't about romanticizing pirate stuff- 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:21.320 -with eye patches and stuff. We've never liked that. 00:17:21.479 --> 00:17:23.640 The Anti-Piracy Bureau already existed- 00:17:23.800 --> 00:17:29.959 -we wanted to state that we're the active part in this conflict. 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.439 The Anti-Piracy Bureau is the reactive part. 00:17:33.600 --> 00:17:35.560 This is Henrik Pontén from the Anti-Piracy Bureau. 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:40.040 We've been tipped off that you're selling copies. 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:44.920 Wait, don't close the door. The police will come with a warrant. 00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:51.680 They have a built a business based on other people committing crimes. 00:17:51.840 --> 00:17:58.200 They have created an industry with banners and porn ads to earn revenue. 00:17:58.360 --> 00:17:59.720 It was very profitable. 00:17:59.879 --> 00:18:03.800 You're making your situation worse. 00:18:03.959 --> 00:18:08.040 -I must be allowed to close the door. -Come out, then. 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.160 If you look at studies about file sharing- 00:18:11.320 --> 00:18:15.959 -they don't do it for the fellowship or to support the ideology. 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.520 It's because it's simple and free. 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:23.320 Then there is a small group of people who do this... 00:18:23.479 --> 00:18:29.280 ...for reasons they claim to be freedom of speech. 00:18:29.439 --> 00:18:33.439 Our policy has always been that the site is an empty page- 00:18:33.600 --> 00:18:38.720 -that is created by the users. We don't interfere with the content. 00:18:38.879 --> 00:18:42.520 Freedom of speech? 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:49.000 I'd prefer the technological viewpoint, a contact service. 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.479 -For communication? -Yes. 00:18:54.280 --> 00:19:01.280 I don't care about the piracy ideology, copyright or politics. 00:19:01.439 --> 00:19:05.400 I do this because it's great fun to run a large site. 00:19:05.560 --> 00:19:07.560 Describe the importance of the Pirate Bay. 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:13.680 It democratizes and creates great conditions for freedom of speech. 00:19:13.840 --> 00:19:17.080 What has that to do with the copyrighted material? 00:19:17.239 --> 00:19:22.239 The Pirate Bay makes it possible for individuals to share material. 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.320 Even if it's copyrighted? 00:19:24.479 --> 00:19:28.280 That's a tricky consequence that I think we have to discuss. 00:19:34.040 --> 00:19:35.479 What are you hoping for? 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:39.800 I hope we don't get a monitored, restricted internet. 00:19:39.959 --> 00:19:42.200 That's the biggest issue right now. 00:19:42.360 --> 00:19:45.520 The copyright industry is digging a grave for the internet. 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:50.280 They don't take into account the public benefits of a free internet. 00:19:50.439 --> 00:19:54.200 The problem is that old people are running the companies. 00:19:54.360 --> 00:19:59.320 They know how you made money before and they don't want to change. 00:19:59.479 --> 00:20:05.760 They're like the Amish. They don't want electricity. They know how to make do without electricity. 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:10.600 Roger Wallis, please come to Court Room 9. 00:20:10.760 --> 00:20:15.280 Do you think people who download movies will go and buy them as well? 00:20:15.439 --> 00:20:19.200 -If they would buy the movie? -Yes, get it legally. 00:20:19.360 --> 00:20:24.720 Yes, but it depends on the quality. If people want better quality. 00:20:24.879 --> 00:20:28.360 Or if the DVD has special features. 00:20:28.520 --> 00:20:34.479 You have to increase the value of the products in order to sell them. 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.280 If you want to adjust your business model to the new world. 00:20:38.439 --> 00:20:42.720 Thank you. I called your institute and asked these questions- 00:20:42.879 --> 00:20:47.320 -because we were unable to put together your curriculum vitae. 00:20:47.479 --> 00:20:51.239 You've stated in court that you're a professor- 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:56.080 -but your institute calls you a temporary guest lecturer. 00:20:56.239 --> 00:20:59.920 -Do you know how to use Google? -Yes. 00:21:00.080 --> 00:21:02.520 Then it's really simple to find my CV. 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.560 -We've moved on from that question. -I thought so too. 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.720 Let's move on. Thank you, Your Honor. 00:21:11.879 --> 00:21:16.479 When you were appointed, were there any competitors? 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:20.400 I thought we had moved on, Your Honor? 00:21:20.560 --> 00:21:24.600 -I would like an answer. -Please answer the question. 00:21:24.760 --> 00:21:26.800 I have no idea! 00:21:26.959 --> 00:21:31.360 I was asked to come and I went through... And we're back on this! 00:21:31.520 --> 00:21:36.439 ...the standard selection process at the Royal Institute of Technology. 00:21:36.600 --> 00:21:38.720 All my publications were submitted. 00:21:38.879 --> 00:21:42.800 Three professors and two international experts- 00:21:42.959 --> 00:21:46.959 -deemed that I was eligible for the appointment. 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.040 Thank you. Please just answer the questions. 00:21:53.600 --> 00:21:56.720 How low can you sink? 00:21:56.879 --> 00:22:00.640 They're so afraid of the result of your research. 00:22:00.800 --> 00:22:05.640 They can't attack you there, so they attack you on a personal level. 00:22:05.800 --> 00:22:11.800 The Royal Institute of Technology. Professor Roger Wallis. 00:22:11.959 --> 00:22:17.720 I think it's sick to attack the academic world like this. 00:22:17.879 --> 00:22:22.879 It's not the first time. I've heard about professors in the US- 00:22:23.040 --> 00:22:29.400 -who have indicated that file sharing could be positive for the industry- 00:22:29.560 --> 00:22:33.040 -that have been hunted down with a whip. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.600 It's sad that these American methods are coming to Sweden. 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:43.439 Would you like any compensation for participating today? 00:22:43.600 --> 00:22:48.520 Please send flowers to my wife for the sleepless night. 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:51.600 The court's budget will not allow that. 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:59.040 It's now two or three days since the court appearance. 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.600 I'm starting to look through all the blogs around the world. 00:23:02.760 --> 00:23:05.360 I'm looking here at "TorrentFreak": 00:23:05.520 --> 00:23:08.400 "Pirate Bay witness overwhelmed with flowers." 00:23:08.560 --> 00:23:11.320 And an awful lot of very kind people who wrote: 00:23:11.479 --> 00:23:14.840 "At last somebody from the older generation"... I'm an old man. 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:16.959 ..."seems to understand the way we think." 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:20.520 I also make the point here that as a composer... 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.720 A song I wrote bought our first house. 00:23:23.879 --> 00:23:31.080 I support copyright, but only if it encourages creativity- 00:23:31.239 --> 00:23:36.119 -or economic incitement or is an incentive to create. 00:23:36.280 --> 00:23:40.720 Not copyright as a huge control mechanism- 00:23:40.879 --> 00:23:44.800 -for people who sit on large swathes of rights. 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.640 A police officer that worked with the Pirate Bay investigation- 00:23:53.800 --> 00:24:00.280 -was employed by a film studio shortly after the investigation. 00:24:00.439 --> 00:24:05.520 In an email, Warner Bros. states that the information in the media- 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:09.720 -about an alleged conflict of interest is pure speculation. 00:24:09.879 --> 00:24:15.520 He sold his apartment and bought a house. Just after he got the job. 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.000 I was disappointed when you didn't investigate him. 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.800 You're claiming stuff I don't have a clue about. 00:24:21.959 --> 00:24:26.879 You should gather material and submit it to the police. 00:24:27.040 --> 00:24:30.520 I did, but they dropped the case. 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:34.439 Well... In that case there is nothing I can do. 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.680 His income that year is higher than his police salary. 00:24:40.840 --> 00:24:45.119 He has declared capital gains of $120 000. 00:24:45.280 --> 00:24:49.680 This fucking trial just gets more and more bizarre every day. 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.280 I think there's been a power cut at the Pirate Bay again. 00:24:59.439 --> 00:25:04.360 -Why do you use automatic fuses? -They're attached to the cable cover. 00:25:04.520 --> 00:25:10.080 When an automatic fuse dies 5 times you have to replace it. 00:25:10.239 --> 00:25:15.640 My laptops break all the time so I don't have time to put stickers on. 00:25:15.800 --> 00:25:20.360 I spilled gin and tonic in one. I spilled beer in another. 00:25:20.520 --> 00:25:24.560 And I fell on one and smashed the screen. 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:28.239 -Do you have WIFI here? -Yes, it's called "bambuser". 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:33.879 -Doesn't it work? -Key... Bambuser... 00:25:34.040 --> 00:25:36.959 -WTF! -Stop shouting. 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.520 I have abstinence! I haven't been on the internet all day. 00:25:49.800 --> 00:25:55.280 On page 24 you have received an email- 00:25:55.439 --> 00:26:00.800 -that you forwarded to Gottfrid and Peter Sunde. 00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:04.600 Why did you forward it? 00:26:04.760 --> 00:26:08.479 I didn't. Every mail that contains DMCA- 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.000 -is automatically forwarded to Gottfrid and Peter. 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.520 I have a lot of abbreviations in my filter. 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:19.640 -Who programmed the abbreviations? -I did. 00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:23.280 -Why? -Because I got a lot of spam. 00:26:23.439 --> 00:26:28.200 Why would you consider an email- 00:26:28.360 --> 00:26:31.640 -called "Copyright Claim" as spam? 00:26:31.800 --> 00:26:36.840 Spam are emails that I haven't requested. 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:42.400 Fredrik Neij stated that as soon as he got an email- 00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:47.160 -from someone representing copyright owners- 00:26:47.320 --> 00:26:53.000 -it was forwarded to you from his computer. Is that correct? 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.160 Since no one seems capable to do what we've told them- 00:26:56.320 --> 00:26:59.720 -i.e. contact the user that uploaded the material- 00:26:59.879 --> 00:27:04.920 -those complaints have either been ignored- 00:27:05.080 --> 00:27:10.360 -or been replied to in more or less well-phrased ways. 00:27:13.439 --> 00:27:16.920 Why was it sent to you? 00:27:17.080 --> 00:27:20.920 I express myself well in writing, as opposed to Fredrik. 00:27:21.080 --> 00:27:25.760 But such a claim didn't result in anything but scorn and ridicule? 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:33.760 The first 100 times it resulted in us saying: "Contact the uploader." 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.920 -And the following 100 times? -Then we lost our patience. 00:27:50.360 --> 00:27:53.680 The Company PRQ... 00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:59.680 -Was it a web hotel? -Yes, it had just been founded. 00:28:00.959 --> 00:28:06.040 Is it correct that the prosecution confiscated 195 servers- 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.479 -and that 11 belonged to the Pirate Bay? 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.119 11 or 13, I don't remember exactly. 00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:16.879 This is outrageous. This is a true injustice. 00:28:17.040 --> 00:28:22.160 They're attacking a company that has nothing to do with the Pirate Bay. 00:28:22.320 --> 00:28:29.439 Simply because the co-founders were involved with the Pirate Bay for fun. 00:28:30.840 --> 00:28:35.200 Thanks to the raid PRQ got a lot of attention. 00:28:35.360 --> 00:28:39.520 Everybody knew that we never give any information to the police. 00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.040 Our customer database was encrypted. 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:47.760 The police seized our servers, but didn't get any customer information. 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.879 When the Pirate Bay was shut down after the raid- 00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:55.800 -you didn't have any servers left, right? 00:28:55.959 --> 00:28:58.560 You were back online after three days. Where did you get the servers? 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.840 We leased servers from a company called NFOrce in Holland. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.040 It's a co-location company. 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.280 -How was that received? -With standing ovations. 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:14.000 It's a pleasure to announce that the Pirate Bay is back online! 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.720 In your face, Hollywood! 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.239 -Peter! -Yes? I'll be there soon! 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:36.360 That's how you have treated me. I get letters from your lawyers saying: 00:29:36.520 --> 00:29:40.600 "Swedish law cannot protect you. US law will get you". 00:29:40.760 --> 00:29:45.360 You put private detectives on us. I've had two outside my house. 00:29:45.520 --> 00:29:49.600 -I know nothing about that. -But it's your responsibility. 00:29:49.760 --> 00:29:51.600 It could have been the film industry. 00:29:51.760 --> 00:29:53.280 -No, it was the music industry. -Ok. 00:29:53.439 --> 00:29:55.560 TPB isn't interested in music and movies. 00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:00.520 TPB is a generic medium for distribution of all types of files. 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:07.080 People shouldn't say that TPB only is about spreading illegal movies and music. 00:30:07.239 --> 00:30:11.000 Then your world is this small. It's your loss. 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.280 Instead we could say that file sharing is good. 00:30:14.439 --> 00:30:19.119 Then we could focus on ways to let artists make money. 00:30:19.280 --> 00:30:23.959 -We think file sharing is good. -Sure, but you sue everyone. 00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.000 No. We don't want to prosecute anyone. 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.439 We just want people in Sweden to start respecting copyright laws. 00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:59.800 What was the purpose of the Pirate Bay in your opinion? 00:30:59.959 --> 00:31:04.239 We never spoke about purposes. 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.760 If it was about reforming laws or if it was about- 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.720 -hatred against some Americans. I don't know their purpose. 00:31:14.879 --> 00:31:20.239 But for Fredrik, and it was Fredrik I was dealing with- 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.640 -the purpose was to make it a big site. The biggest site in the world. 00:31:25.800 --> 00:31:30.840 From my point of view I liked the idea of the world's biggest site. 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:36.479 -How is the Pirate Bay financed? -How the website is financed? 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.479 We have ads on the site that generate money. 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.479 A guy called Lundström helped you financially, didn't he? 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.280 Yes, we we're sponsored by a company called Rix Telecom. 00:31:49.439 --> 00:31:53.720 -What was his purpose? -Free advertising for his company. 00:31:53.879 --> 00:31:56.439 Carl Lundström is an interesting guy. 00:31:56.600 --> 00:32:00.600 He's behind many right-wing organizations. 00:32:00.760 --> 00:32:04.959 Carl Lundström has apparently given money to... 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:09.320 Answer the question! Did he represent these organizations? 00:32:09.479 --> 00:32:13.479 It really bugs me- 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.720 -that everybody looks at us as right-wing extremists. 00:32:17.879 --> 00:32:22.720 It makes me really hurt and angry. My brother is a convicted anarchist. 00:32:22.879 --> 00:32:28.920 He's been in court, defending his opinions. 00:32:29.080 --> 00:32:32.119 We've both been on a neo-Nazi organization's hit list. 00:32:32.280 --> 00:32:37.000 It feels strange to be accused of founding that neo-Nazi organization. 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:38.400 It's really hard. 00:32:38.560 --> 00:32:42.239 I can only stand behind my own politics. 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.920 When you have some influence and people listen to you- 00:32:49.080 --> 00:32:54.280 -you should use that position to do something good. 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.600 When did you become the Pirate Bay's spokesperson? 00:33:01.760 --> 00:33:07.200 Well, it's not an official title, but a function that has been given to me. 00:33:07.360 --> 00:33:11.560 Nobody wanted to do that part, but it was important to communicate- 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.280 -that the Pirate Bay was doing something important. 00:33:15.439 --> 00:33:19.360 Since nobody else wanted to, I started doing it. 00:33:19.520 --> 00:33:26.560 What was Peter Sunde's role during that time? 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:32.080 He showed up when we needed a public face. 00:33:32.239 --> 00:33:37.320 Since neither I nor Fredrik are suited in furnished rooms. 00:33:37.479 --> 00:33:40.959 So he had nothing to do with running the site. 00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.080 -Or any design? -No. 00:33:44.239 --> 00:33:46.400 -Funding? -No. 00:33:51.320 --> 00:33:54.680 It's AIM. You told me it was MSN. 00:33:54.840 --> 00:33:56.400 What's the fucking difference? 00:33:56.560 --> 00:34:00.720 They're two different networks. It's like IRCnet and EFnet. 00:34:00.879 --> 00:34:04.320 -Come on! -It was the Museum of Modern Art... 00:34:04.479 --> 00:34:07.160 You're so loud! You give me a headache. 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:13.280 -I'm half deaf, of course I shout. -You're making me deaf. 00:34:13.439 --> 00:34:16.200 He wants to spread his misery. 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:22.160 -Why can't you hear anything? -Sex, drugs and industry! 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.640 Sex? 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:30.119 I've heard your sex stories. 00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:35.400 How much does a banner cost? 00:34:35.560 --> 00:34:39.680 You are asking me about 5-year-old figures again. 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:45.160 If you give me a day I can probably find some examples. 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.879 But I can't give you any exact figures. 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:53.920 Does $500 per week sound like a reasonable amount? 00:34:54.080 --> 00:34:57.280 That sounds about right. It's within the right range at least. 00:34:57.439 --> 00:35:00.119 Within the right range, you say. 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:06.040 Was there an agreement about how the ad revenue was to be divided? 00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:11.040 -I have no idea. -You don't. Fine. 00:35:11.200 --> 00:35:15.800 -I'm so fucking tired. -This will be your life for 5 years. 00:35:15.959 --> 00:35:18.920 Are you Kafka or what? 00:35:19.080 --> 00:35:21.760 It feels like "The Trial" all over again. 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.040 I might wake up as Gregor Samsa and can't go to work- 00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:28.959 -because I've turned into a beetle. 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.160 When do you go back to Cambodia? 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:37.239 -As soon as this shit is over. -Quiet. It's a secret. 00:35:50.959 --> 00:35:55.200 What are your thoughts in general about the case? 00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:01.239 It will be nice when it's over. Tomorrow it's just half the day. 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.239 And after the closing arguments we're finished. 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.200 How much money are they looking for? 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:11.400 They want around 20 million Euro in damages. 00:36:11.560 --> 00:36:16.479 But good luck finding that money. I don't have that kind of money. 00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:21.200 If they knew that our entire office is a chat room on IRC- 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.400 -they wouldn't believe it. 00:36:24.560 --> 00:36:30.119 And they don't because they've been asking questions about companies. 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.280 Yeah, we tried to get organized, but we failed every single time. 00:36:34.439 --> 00:36:40.560 I don't think they can grasp the idea of an organization without a boss. 00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:45.680 People have no idea how small we are. We're just a couple of guys in a chat room. 00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:12.320 I've argued that the yearly profit is at least $170,000. 00:37:12.479 --> 00:37:15.439 And that's the minimum. 00:37:16.479 --> 00:37:19.640 Gottfrid Svartholm Warg stated- 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:26.239 -that the price for an ad on TPB was $500 per week. 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.479 The report from the Forensic Laboratory- 00:37:30.640 --> 00:37:36.040 -states that at the time of the raid- 00:37:36.200 --> 00:37:40.320 - there were 64 unique ads. 00:37:40.479 --> 00:37:46.160 A rough estimate... 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:51.520 $500 times 64- 00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:55.439 - gives us $34 000 per week. 00:37:55.600 --> 00:38:02.119 That amount times 52 weeks, i.e. weeks per year- 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:08.840 -makes a yearly revenue of $ 1700 000. 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.760 Thus The Pirate Bay isn't idealistic. 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.879 It's pure commercial business. 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:31.280 Here we go. 4 times 52. 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:37.959 $110 000. That's a massive sum. We never got that kind of money back then. 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.840 If you calculate with the right number of ads - 4 instead of 64- 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.160 -you get a much more realistic figure. 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.800 But he has miscalculated so many things. 00:38:46.959 --> 00:38:52.560 Did Roswall mean 64 different ads, or 4 ads times a bunch of pages? 00:38:52.720 --> 00:38:56.600 -Yes. -What the hell! Is he insane? 00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:58.720 He's right behind you. 00:39:02.479 --> 00:39:05.760 We're thinking of doing a Bambuser press conference. 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.560 Hell no!! No! No! They keep calling us organized. 00:39:09.720 --> 00:39:12.680 They don't understand what a joke that is. 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:17.560 It's disorganized crime. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.600 You mean for all of you? I think you are going to get convicted. 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.640 Take a picture of Monique. It's her copyright. 00:39:34.040 --> 00:39:36.959 -I'm leaving. -Bye bye. 00:39:38.720 --> 00:39:41.720 Do you need a hand? 00:39:41.879 --> 00:39:45.000 This is the only help you'll ever get from me. 00:39:45.160 --> 00:39:48.400 -That's so kind. -I am kind. 00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:51.560 And I still have my soul, too. 00:39:51.720 --> 00:39:54.680 Here's Fredrik, let's get out of here. 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:03.600 Let's calculate how much money we have earned. 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.160 Let's start with an exponential function. 00:40:11.040 --> 00:40:13.879 -You can add times 64. -Right. 00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:17.600 And for N we choose a random number. 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.680 Between 10 and 5 200. Do you write code in Swedish? 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:26.280 Now take the square root to see what Monique's soul costs. 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.560 The answer? 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.520 Do it mathematically correct. 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.239 Come on, not Pi. 00:40:42.600 --> 00:40:47.720 He's mad. Go check that it's correct. 00:40:47.879 --> 00:40:51.080 Okay. I'll give you some cred. 00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.760 It's in my muscle memory. I can't remember it writing with a pen. 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.119 I have to emulate a keyboard. 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.479 So what are you doing at 11.00 on the 17th of April? 00:41:01.640 --> 00:41:03.800 Queuing outside the court? 00:41:03.959 --> 00:41:09.239 -11 am means 5 pm local time. -I was thinking the same thing. 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.040 Gottfrid, can you sit over here? 00:41:12.200 --> 00:41:16.920 I'm not taking part in any fucking press conference. I'm sick of it! 00:41:17.080 --> 00:41:23.360 -It's in English. -I'm so fucking tired of cameras. 00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:27.160 -And fucking bullshit! -Sit here anyway. It's the last time. 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.040 Nein. 00:41:32.600 --> 00:41:34.640 Hi everybody. 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.280 I'm here and together with me I have some of the guys from TPB. 00:41:39.439 --> 00:41:43.239 Take your time and ask some questions to the guys- 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.720 -and see what they have to say. 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:51.040 -I didn't know we were that boring. -You are that boring. 00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:56.400 Because you're not part of this. Film him! 00:41:57.439 --> 00:41:58.959 Anakata! 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.360 Today the court will decide if the men behind the Pirate Bay- 00:42:14.520 --> 00:42:17.119 -are guilty of copyright infringement. 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.400 Follow the verdict live on svt.se from 11.00. 00:42:24.879 --> 00:42:30.600 No, but... Sure, but don't worry. 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.640 Because I'm not worried myself. But I'll talk to you later. Bye. 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.600 Dad was more nervous than I am. 00:42:46.439 --> 00:42:51.800 The verdict is in for the Pirate Bay trial. It's 11 o'clock. 00:42:51.959 --> 00:42:56.879 All four defendants are sentenced to one year in prison. 00:42:57.040 --> 00:43:01.879 The offense is called "assisting copyright infringement". 00:43:02.040 --> 00:43:07.439 - So one year imprisonment... -This is so insane! 00:43:13.520 --> 00:43:16.879 This must be a joke. 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.640 Take it easy, mom. Nothing will happen. 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.360 This is going to take 5 years. Take it easy. 00:43:28.520 --> 00:43:35.040 The District Court is ruled by politicians. We call it the Dice Court. 00:43:40.680 --> 00:43:44.479 Just stay calm. 00:43:44.640 --> 00:43:51.200 But I can't talk right now. I have to watch the press conference. 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:55.040 Okay. Take care. 00:43:55.200 --> 00:43:59.680 The District Court has announced the verdict in the Pirate Bay trial. 00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:05.840 We have estimated the damages to approximately $4,5 million. 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.280 Fuck you. He's going to get a good job in Hollywood after this. 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:18.439 This is so insane! 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.479 The hottest set up ever. 00:44:27.640 --> 00:44:31.400 I don't have time right now, I have to decline. 00:44:31.560 --> 00:44:36.320 No, I'm the only one in Sweden. The others are in the desert or the jungle. 00:44:36.479 --> 00:44:40.680 No, they are not going to send us to jail whatsoever. 00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.840 The way it works in Sweden is that they can't... 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.920 ...do anything about the case before we can't appeal anymore. 00:44:53.560 --> 00:44:58.160 -What are we going to call this? -LOL? 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.720 For the lulz. 00:45:00.879 --> 00:45:04.239 If this was a movie this is where the heroes- 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.959 -encounter their first problem. 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.879 Karate Kid got bullied in the beginning and got beaten up. 00:45:11.040 --> 00:45:13.959 And we've just been beaten up. 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:20.000 Thanks, Hollywood, for teaching us that the good guys win in the end. 00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:25.400 In total they wanted around 100 million Swedish crowns, right? 00:45:25.560 --> 00:45:28.520 And they got 30 million. 00:45:28.680 --> 00:45:34.000 But they could have gotten 1 billion, it doesn't matter because... 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:37.800 We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. 00:45:37.959 --> 00:45:41.800 This verdict makes me upset to the bone. 00:45:41.959 --> 00:45:46.560 There is no chance in hell this verdict will hold in an appeal. 00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:52.640 I will cross the creek, the stream and the Atlantic for a redress. 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:56.840 It means a lot to have taken a stand. 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:02.160 It's important to re-establish Sweden as a state governed by law. 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.040 The judge in the Pirate Bay trial is accused of bias. 00:46:06.200 --> 00:46:09.600 People are demanding a retrial. 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:17.280 Last night I learned about the news that blew up today. 00:46:17.439 --> 00:46:19.800 The judge in the Pirate Bay trial- 00:46:19.959 --> 00:46:26.000 -is a member of organizations that are working with copyright issues. 00:46:26.160 --> 00:46:30.479 Organizations that the attorneys from the plaintiff's are part of. 00:46:30.640 --> 00:46:35.080 I was horrified and shocked to learn about this. 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:39.720 -Why didn't you inform the court? -Good question. I didn't. 00:46:39.879 --> 00:46:42.600 Yes, I know how he thought. 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.560 "My friends will be happy if I rule in their favor." 00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:49.800 It's ridiculous. I didn't think the legal system was that bad. 00:46:49.959 --> 00:46:54.840 -Was it a correct decision? -That's for others to decide. 00:47:11.160 --> 00:47:18.320 It's Tomas, the judge. He's the judge in the District Court. 00:47:18.479 --> 00:47:23.640 He's a member of the Swedish Association for Copyright. 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.879 That's the whole point. 00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:31.800 He sits in the board for the Swedish Association for Industrial Rights. 00:47:31.959 --> 00:47:37.720 These two organizations have a common publication, NIR. 00:47:37.879 --> 00:47:42.680 And all the lawyers that assist the prosecution: 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.879 Peter Danowsky, Henrik Pontén and Monique Wadsted. 00:47:46.040 --> 00:47:49.840 They're all members of the same organization. 00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.239 So he looks very mixed up in these people's world. 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.600 From a graphical point of view it's very obvious. 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.760 I can't say if he was biased- 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:11.119 -but just the fact that he withheld this information- 00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:15.640 -makes him unsuitable as a judge in this case. 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.720 The verdict is questionable, since he might be perceived as being biased. 00:48:47.040 --> 00:48:52.439 -Here's my pirate copy. -I have a parasite. 00:49:25.600 --> 00:49:28.640 -Is this you? Fredrik? -Yes. 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:34.800 -What's your job? - IT. Internet. 00:49:34.959 --> 00:49:39.560 Because of our tradition and the regulations of the village- 00:49:39.720 --> 00:49:43.080 -you have to pay for the engagement. 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:48.360 How much would you like to pay for the engagement? 00:49:48.520 --> 00:49:54.000 $6,000? 00:49:57.600 --> 00:50:04.040 If you leave her you have to pay the bride dowry times two. 00:50:04.200 --> 00:50:07.840 That means $12,000. Agreed? 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.600 Please write your name and sign it. 00:50:18.560 --> 00:50:22.239 Do you like it? Good. 00:50:28.439 --> 00:50:32.560 -Yummy! Yummy! -Hello! 00:50:32.720 --> 00:50:36.760 If it didn't cost me $12,000 I would divorce you. 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:51.080 It's always this way with the Pirate Bay. Chaos and cheating. 00:50:52.439 --> 00:50:56.320 Last Monday a verdict came from the Stockholm District court- 00:50:56.479 --> 00:50:58.000 -where Judge Norström is chairman. 00:50:58.160 --> 00:51:05.080 Black Internet, the ISP for Pirate Bay's ISP must quit- 00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.400 -and if they continue to give access to the Pirate Bay- 00:51:08.560 --> 00:51:11.879 -they will be fined $75 000 per day. 00:51:12.040 --> 00:51:16.400 Then all hell broke loose. 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:23.200 So they're trying legal tricks and we're trying technical tricks. 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:29.200 It's like a constant tactical game with different weapons. 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.680 When we realized that the Pirate Bay was down- 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.600 -we looked around, because we always have backups. 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:47.680 Then I realized that the Pirate Party had registered their own ISP. 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.640 The Pirate Party works for reformed copyright laws, an open internet- 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.400 -and free access to culture. 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.959 I realized that if we're hosted by the Pirate Party- 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:06.239 -it means that if someone closes them down, they're closing down the party. 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:11.119 That means closing down a party that represents Sweden in the EU. 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.600 That would be political censorship on the highest level. 00:52:17.080 --> 00:52:21.439 If you're hosted by the Pirate Party you get political protection. 00:52:21.600 --> 00:52:25.080 You could say that you get diplomatic immunity. 00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:32.400 After days of speculation "Rapport" can now reveal that the Pirate Party- 00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:37.360 -takes over the responsibility for the security of WikiLeaks' servers. 00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:42.479 WikiLeaks or the Pirate Party copied what they had done with TPB. 00:52:42.640 --> 00:52:46.840 Giving WikiLeaks protection by a political party- 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.920 -by sharing the same internet connection. 00:52:51.080 --> 00:52:55.600 Every leak on WikiLeaks has been released on TPB since there is no censorship there. 00:52:57.959 --> 00:53:01.400 Gottfrid is good at tech stuff and encryption- 00:53:01.560 --> 00:53:04.600 -and he's worked on many important projects. 00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:08.360 Like "Collateral Murder" that made WikiLeaks famous. 00:53:15.479 --> 00:53:16.560 "Look at those dead bastards" 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:27.320 Julian has a lot of respect for Gottfrid. 00:53:27.479 --> 00:53:31.959 I remember when Gottfrid said: "There's a new customer, WikiLeaks." 00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.360 "They need help because they're under attack." 00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:40.439 The first time I got in contact was when we had to pay a bill. 00:53:40.600 --> 00:53:43.560 Because no one, and that was a constant problem... 00:53:43.720 --> 00:53:46.360 No one remembered the stupid customer number. 00:53:46.520 --> 00:53:50.000 And no one wanted to say anything on the phone. 00:53:50.160 --> 00:53:55.760 In 2008 I flew to Sweden to pay the bill in cash. 00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.959 Gottfrid always said he didn't want money from WikiLeaks. 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:04.040 I flew there and paid for one year and a bit in advance. 00:54:04.200 --> 00:54:08.040 Julian was with me. He flew in as well. 00:54:08.200 --> 00:54:13.000 And we arranged this meeting with Gottfrid to hand over the money. 00:54:13.160 --> 00:54:16.920 And it was one of the weirdest incidents in my life. 00:54:17.080 --> 00:54:22.920 He came to the hotel and he had someone waiting outside in a car. 00:54:23.080 --> 00:54:30.680 And they had an agreement that Gottfrid would be near a window. 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.959 So he stood there in this lobby. 00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:39.920 With his long hair, looking completely... 00:54:40.080 --> 00:54:44.160 -Strange! Fucked up. -And he behaved really strange. 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:50.680 And every 30 seconds he turned to see if the guy in the car was there. 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:55.000 And Julian and I were standing there and we basically thought- 00:54:55.160 --> 00:54:59.239 -that we would go hang out or something. 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:04.239 So we asked him if he wanted to come up to the room. 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:09.760 And he was like: "No, no, I can't." He was turning around. 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:11.640 Never heard that before. 00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:15.959 And then handing over some cash and the guy jumped in the car- 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.119 -and they drove off and we felt like... 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.720 That was meeting PRQ for us. 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.840 A warm welcome to Peter Sunde. 00:55:30.879 --> 00:55:35.800 First question: Are you a killer that ruined the whole industry? 00:55:35.959 --> 00:55:39.800 I would love to take credit for it but I can't. Sorry. They did it themselves. 00:55:39.959 --> 00:55:44.080 -There is a law case now with you. -Just one? 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.479 I don't know how many but some discussions going around. 00:55:47.640 --> 00:55:50.720 You had a new idea: Flattr. 00:55:50.879 --> 00:55:55.239 It comes from the discussions we had during the Pirate Bay. 00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:00.800 There were two sides. One side said there is no problem with downloading. 00:56:00.959 --> 00:56:05.119 The other side said they're not making any money from the internet. 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:11.360 -And there was nothing happening. -Can you explain how Flattr works? 00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:16.560 You as a user sign up and you put money into an account. 00:56:16.720 --> 00:56:19.239 You decide how much you want to spend per month. 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:24.680 Then you find Flattr buttons. They look like the Facebook Like buttons. 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.600 If you click it we remember it until the end of the month. 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.360 At the end of the month we count your clicks- 00:56:30.520 --> 00:56:32.879 -and we share your money equally amongst them. 00:56:33.040 --> 00:56:38.720 -Where is the money going? -It's going to the creators. 00:56:38.879 --> 00:56:40.600 That's the whole concept. 00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:54.680 The trial in the Court of Appeal against the Pirate Bay began today. 00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.640 Let's shake hands today again. 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:02.160 -It's a sick team, right? -I'm soaking wet. 00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:07.040 To rent a car costs $400 per week. 00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:09.920 I bought that one for $600. I'll use it for 6 weeks. 00:57:10.080 --> 00:57:14.479 -Is it legal? -Sure. I've even paid the taxes. 00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:21.640 I don't really care about parking tickets - I have a $7 million debt. 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:29.920 The Court of Appeal, please. 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.119 -Is Gottfrid coming? -I highly doubt that. 00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:39.239 -Unless he teleports himself. -Okay. 00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:45.000 He wrote this morning that he's hospitalized with a parasite infection in Cambodia. 00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.360 So yes, it's highly unlikely that he'll come. 00:57:54.040 --> 00:57:58.600 -Do you have any other trials? -The civil cases. 00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:02.360 -The penalty fine stuff. -How many are they? 00:58:02.520 --> 00:58:06.680 One in Italy, one in Holland... 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:11.760 One in Denmark that we're not summoned to, and one in Norway. 00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.600 Kuwait, Ireland. Anything else? 00:58:27.439 --> 00:58:29.479 What is the most important? 00:58:29.640 --> 00:58:35.800 I believe it's very important to look at how our society ought to be. 00:58:35.959 --> 00:58:39.439 Not just rule so that big companies can make a bigger profit. 00:58:40.560 --> 00:58:43.600 How does this feel? 8 days to go. 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.520 It's boring that we're just watching video. 00:58:46.680 --> 00:58:51.560 You wanted to speak for yourself but weren't allowed to, right? 00:58:51.720 --> 00:58:54.840 I think the new court system is really bad. 00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:00.000 You can't introduce new material. We don't even need to be in court. 00:59:00.160 --> 00:59:04.439 They could just take the old material and rule from that. 00:59:04.600 --> 00:59:07.400 Hey, thanks for coming! 00:59:08.479 --> 00:59:11.720 -How are you? -I'm really sick. 00:59:11.879 --> 00:59:16.160 Then why the hell are you shaking my hand? 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.959 -He's also sick. -What's wrong with you? 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:25.920 I have a cold and an eye infection. I didn't sleep at all last night. 00:59:26.080 --> 00:59:29.959 I just got an SMS from Gottfrid's mother. 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:36.720 She wrote that he is still in Cambodia. 00:59:36.879 --> 00:59:42.840 She said that he is really ill. 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.560 He's had problems before as well. 00:59:46.720 --> 00:59:52.320 When you look at him, health isn't the first thing you think of. 00:59:55.760 --> 01:00:00.760 -What are you working with today? -I run websites. 01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.920 In Cambodia or Thailand? 01:00:04.080 --> 01:00:09.239 With the internet you can work anywhere as long as you have Internet access. 01:00:13.680 --> 01:00:17.160 State prosecutor Roswall accused the defendants of contempt- 01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:21.320 -since they have continued to run the site after the verdict. 01:00:21.479 --> 01:00:25.000 He wants the one year imprisonment for all four to be affirmed. 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.119 The tunnel computer is located in Pionen with the Pirate Party. 01:01:15.080 --> 01:01:19.400 Pionen is a show-off in Apple style. 01:01:22.160 --> 01:01:26.760 The tunnel computer is the entrance from the internet to the Pirate Bay. 01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:30.360 Then everything happens in the background somewhere. 01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:35.160 On the real servers, that are hidden. 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:41.000 Right now we're on our way to the real mountain. 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.200 That's an expensive table. 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.200 -6 cores? -12 cores. 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:45.760 4 CPU's with 12 cores. 01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:50.959 Here. The Pirate Bay. And that's all. 01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.200 We run an efficient ship. 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.520 Where are the people who run the Pirate Bay based now? 01:03:06.680 --> 01:03:11.720 I don't know. Ask the Pirate Party, they are hosting the bandwidth. 01:03:11.879 --> 01:03:20.920 But it has changed owners after we passed it on, too. Once or twice. 01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:25.400 We miss the support from the Pirate Party in the District Court. 01:03:25.560 --> 01:03:29.080 -With buses and stuff. -The buses were the Pirate Bureau. 01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:34.119 Was it the Pirate Bureau? With trumpets and flags and stuff. 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.600 It feels like they have forgotten about us. 01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:44.879 The pirate movement's idea to fight for free file sharing- 01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:48.760 -just isn't accepted anymore. 01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:55.320 It was just a little fad. I never thought it would survive. 01:04:02.200 --> 01:04:05.320 -I don't want them. -You don't have to sign them. 01:04:05.479 --> 01:04:08.239 But by law you have been served. 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:12.439 What does that mean? 01:04:12.600 --> 01:04:16.959 -I can't force you to sign. -No, you can't. 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:20.080 -But you've been served. -Who are you? 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.879 -I'm the subpoena server. -Can I see your ID? 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:36.119 Can I see the last 4 digits, please? 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:40.640 -You should quit smoking. -Do I smell? 01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:46.200 This is stressful for me, too. 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:48.879 -Does it feel bad to do this? -Kind of. 01:04:49.040 --> 01:04:50.959 -But they pay you well? -No. 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.840 -Why do you do it? -It's my job. 01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.800 Do you have kids? Then I understand, but get a better job. 01:04:56.879 --> 01:04:58.560 I've been thinking about that. 01:04:58.720 --> 01:05:05.160 -Is this from Danowsky? -I don't know what it's about. 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:08.439 -So you don't know where it's from? -Holland. 01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:13.000 -Okay. Good luck. -Thanks. Likewise. 01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:19.200 -He's got a great job. -I feel sorry for him. 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.439 I don't. He's like a meter maid. 01:05:23.520 --> 01:05:26.320 Did you see the debate on TV? 01:05:26.479 --> 01:05:32.439 A young girl said: "This is not about young people wanting to commit crimes." 01:05:32.600 --> 01:05:35.800 "They just have a different consumption pattern." 01:05:35.959 --> 01:05:41.200 "They just want to consume movies and records that way." 01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:46.680 "It's horrible to hunt them. The market must adjust instead." 01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:11.760 Life is cooler than the internet. 01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:18.800 That's probably a really radical opinion around here. 01:06:18.959 --> 01:06:23.439 After the cold war they had to invent enemies- 01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:27.600 -that you couldn't even kill. 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.320 Terror, piracy and drugs. 01:06:31.479 --> 01:06:35.080 It's obvious that PRQ has had customers- 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:40.640 -that some say are connected to terror, piracy and drugs. 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.520 That can't be denied. 01:06:43.680 --> 01:06:47.879 I guess all three of them at the same time for one single customer. 01:06:48.040 --> 01:06:51.640 You mean Gottfrid Svartholm Warg! 01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:54.800 He's a pirate and a junkie. 01:06:54.959 --> 01:06:59.040 And when you talk to him you get a little scared. 01:06:59.200 --> 01:07:02.439 You could say he's a Taliban. 01:07:11.439 --> 01:07:18.760 I'm back from Cambodia. I've been there for a month. 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:23.200 I've been really worried about Gottfrid's health. 01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:27.920 I don't want to talk too much about... 01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:32.000 He hasn't been using stuff constantly. 01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:36.280 It's been every now and then. When he has a deadline. 01:07:36.439 --> 01:07:40.840 He gets stressed by his work when something has to be done. 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.479 So then he does a whole lot of drugs. 01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:48.760 I just couldn't stand by and watch. 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.160 I've seen friends struggle with drugs before. 01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:59.720 And it's... What can I say? It's tough. 01:07:59.879 --> 01:08:05.000 It's not something you want to see a friend go through. 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.600 -What are we gonna do? -Crush racism! 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.439 -When? -Now! 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.239 -When, when, when? -Now, now, now! 01:08:33.400 --> 01:08:36.239 -What are we gonna do? -Crush racism! 01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:43.080 Brokep/Peter is a fucking vegetarian leftist bitch ass bastard. 01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:45.879 But he's got balls because he's in the Pirate Bay? 01:08:46.040 --> 01:08:49.439 -He's giving all the interviews. -He's still a bitch. 01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:56.959 He does it because of ideological pussy-inflicted instincts. 01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:01.920 He needs to look himself in the ass and take his own life in his hands. 01:09:03.160 --> 01:09:08.119 If he's had a beer or two, he becomes the most annoying person on earth. 01:09:08.280 --> 01:09:11.439 The problem is he takes a couple of beers at least everyday. 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.959 Isn't there some connection to right-wing parties in Sweden? 01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.840 Carl Lundström, one of the co-defendants- 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.360 -was a right-wing extremist before. 01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.680 He founded a lot of crap. But in the end- 01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:32.280 -he married a Jewish girl. He has four kids. 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:39.439 To call him a right-wing extremist was correct 10-20 years ago. 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:42.080 Now I wouldn't say that. 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:46.680 If Carl Lundström is xenophobic then so am I. 01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:52.360 Every time I've been beaten or robbed, it's been by immigrants. 01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:56.920 And I don't mean seventh-generation Finnish immigrants. 01:09:57.080 --> 01:09:58.800 I mean these dirty fucking immigrants. 01:09:58.959 --> 01:10:04.920 What can I say. He's stupid when it comes to things like that. 01:10:05.080 --> 01:10:10.320 He has never thought for himself. He just says what his parents say. 01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:14.320 He's an alcoholic racist asshole. 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:17.280 -But I still love him. -And you know what? 01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:23.040 All the emails in the Pirate Bay trial comes from Anakata. 01:10:23.200 --> 01:10:27.160 Anakata the don't-know-how to-fucking-encrypt-his-computer! 01:10:27.320 --> 01:10:34.160 Even Peter and I encrypted our emails. But Gottfrid didn't! 01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:38.720 Gottfrid is the stupidest person in the entire history of IT. 01:10:43.360 --> 01:10:45.959 Yeah, the Pirate Bay is really tight! 01:10:50.879 --> 01:10:53.760 I have no batteries left. 01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.720 I'm surprised there are no cameras. 01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:12.400 -Yes, today is the last day. -Finally! I'm going home. 01:11:14.360 --> 01:11:19.320 -You can throw them away. -You've been served anyway. 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.280 Is this gonna come on YouTube? 01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:25.280 -You can throw them away. -You do it. 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:29.800 -You can't force me to take them. -You've been served. 01:11:29.959 --> 01:11:33.280 It was you who dropped the papers. 01:11:51.160 --> 01:11:53.959 Come on! 01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:57.280 I want to sleep. 01:12:09.959 --> 01:12:12.040 Sabaidee! 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.280 When I get acquitted tomorrow I'm going to sue them for millions. 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:22.520 Billions! At least! 01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:29.119 We can't be worse than they are with fantasy numbers. I landed in Sweden on Saturday. 01:12:29.280 --> 01:12:35.360 I'm helping out with the new Leaks project's servers in the server hall. 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:40.280 Everybody has left WikiLeaks except for Julian and maybe Anakata. 01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.080 Because he's like in love with Julian. 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:47.920 Fuck! Blink if you're gonna turn, you fucking anus! 01:12:48.080 --> 01:12:50.879 Goddamnit! 01:12:56.360 --> 01:12:59.000 -How are you? -I'm fine. 01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:05.080 Nice to see you again. You're good? 01:13:15.080 --> 01:13:19.800 Do these people know what's happening in your life today? 01:13:19.959 --> 01:13:21.959 -No. -Not even your wife? 01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.280 Yes. 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:46.320 I don't know. For Fredrik it's easy. He can just avoid going home. 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:50.200 What do you mean? I don't have any plans on going home. 01:13:50.360 --> 01:13:53.119 I really don't know. I don't have a clue. 01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:56.959 I'm hesitating. But I won't accept a conviction. 01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:02.280 I can serve a prison sentence. But why do it if I don't have to? 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.520 There's really no reason for you to do that. 01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:09.439 Look around. Why shouldn't I stay here for 5 years? 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:15.959 You can't go to jail for something you haven't done. 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.400 Political exile is what it's about. 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:25.800 I don't want to become a martyr. 01:14:25.959 --> 01:14:28.760 But I don't think I'll be convicted. 01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:34.160 Knock on wood... But we'll see. 01:14:35.879 --> 01:14:37.760 Cheers! 01:14:55.200 --> 01:14:57.439 Beer man! 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:07.879 Are you going to get drunk from happiness or sadness? 01:15:08.040 --> 01:15:11.080 Can I tell you in 12 minutes? 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:17.879 Hey! The internet just synched up! I think it's an omen. 01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:19.840 Stop lagging! 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.720 "If TPB founders are acquitted, it's a victory for internet freedom." 01:15:24.879 --> 01:15:27.560 Check out my eye infection! 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:32.680 "The pirate Gottfrid Svartholm Warg handed in a medical statement." 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.840 Gottfrid Svartholm was "sick". 01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:49.320 "...was shortened but the damages were raised." We're convicted. 01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:53.479 We're convicted. Domstol.se. It's Spam. 01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:58.879 Copy the link. The link underneath! 01:16:03.959 --> 01:16:08.600 "The Court of Appeal considers the defendants' contribution proven." 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:12.360 "Fredrik Neij is sentenced to 10 months, Peter Sunde 8"- 01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:14.720 -"and Carl Lundström to 4 months." 01:16:14.879 --> 01:16:17.360 -What about Gottfrid? -He's not in the case. 01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:18.680 Right. 01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.200 The damages went up from $4,5 million to $6,6 million. 01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.640 Well... We lost. Fucking idiots. 01:16:33.280 --> 01:16:36.160 I'm calling my mom. 01:16:36.320 --> 01:16:41.239 Hi. I just wanted to say that they gave us a shorter sentence. 01:16:43.160 --> 01:16:46.879 But we're appealing. 8 months instead of one year. 01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:51.760 I just wanted to call and tell you that. So don't be worried. 01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:55.920 I have 59 pages I have to read. 01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.760 Okay, great. Take care. 01:17:10.200 --> 01:17:12.920 Fucking idiots. 01:17:13.080 --> 01:17:17.520 -The internet just died! -Goddamnit! Yes, it did. 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.680 Fucking Windows crap! 01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:23.600 The statute of limitation is 5 years. 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.200 They can't issue an international warrant of arrest. 01:17:26.360 --> 01:17:30.360 I can sit here and jerk off for 5 years. And I will. 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:32.879 Are you gonna masturbate for 5 years? In one go? 01:17:32.959 --> 01:17:34.720 I'll do it on and off. 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:39.239 This means that the internet is criminalized. 01:17:39.400 --> 01:17:44.119 They label the internet as a place where crimes are committed. "Close it down." 01:17:44.280 --> 01:17:50.360 We're not even on BBC or CNN yet! That irritates me! Come on! 01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:56.520 I guess we have to live with the fact that we're not important anymore. 01:18:02.360 --> 01:18:07.080 -The Bay! -When does the internet come back? 01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:11.479 Maybe in 2 hours. If we're lucky. 01:19:15.160 --> 01:19:18.119 Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends. 01:19:18.280 --> 01:19:22.439 We are meeting today to discuss- 01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:26.920 -one of the hot issues right now in the European Parliament. 01:19:27.080 --> 01:19:31.720 Thank you very much for having me. It's very brave to invite me here. 01:19:31.879 --> 01:19:36.280 I've been a pain in the ass for the copyright industry for a long time. 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:40.520 I'm one of the spokespersons for the Pirate Bay. 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:45.720 TPB is the largest file sharing system in the world. 01:19:45.879 --> 01:19:51.400 It's ten times larger than Napster at it's peak, and it's still growing.