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How to make change to the society? Burst the bubble

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    Today I want to start my talk
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    with a story of my own bubble.
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    When I say 'bubble', you might wonder
    what is this and what I'm talking about.
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    Almost more than 20 years ago,
    when I was eight years old,
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    I went to a local food market
    with my mum and dad.
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    It was a very cold winter day.
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    We were driving our green Hyundai Accent
    car, which was in trend at the time.
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    My parents went into the market to shop
    for groceries while I stayed in the car.
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    I was sitting in the car
    and listening to music, relaxing,
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    not even paying attention to the cold.
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    But there was a girl outside,
    the same age as me.
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    She had no hat or gloves
    in that freezing cold weather
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    and was holding a younger sibling
    in those little hands.
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    At first, I didn't pay much attention.
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    I thought: "Okay, it's just
    a poor girl standing there",
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    and kept enjoying
    the music in the car.
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    But 20 minutes, 30 minutes passed.
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    She wasn't simply
    standing there, doing nothing.
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    She was begging for money
    from those who were passing by.
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    Most of the people who were passing
    seemed to be annoyed by her
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    and walked faster to avoid interaction.
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    Looking at this, I suddenly
    felt uncomfortable.
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    What has she done wrong
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    to be standing outside in the cold,
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    holding such heavy load on her tiny back.
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    What have I done to deserve
    sitting in a warm car,
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    waiting for my parents to bring bags
    full of food while listening to music.
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    What is the difference between us?
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    Why and how has this difference emerged?
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    I felt so bad at the time.
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    Looking back now, I think that
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    perhaps, my choice of becoming
    a social researcher
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    was dedicated to understanding
    this difference.
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    Even today, the story
    of the bubble still continues.
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    Last year, I was standing
    in a bank to transfer money
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    when I noticed this poster on the wall.
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    [Dear citizens, beware of theft!!!]
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    Looking at that poster,
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    I thought the bubble hasn't burst.
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    The poster said:
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    "Dear citizens, beware of theft!"
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    What this poster shows is that
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    we see this boy selling
    magazines or gums
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    as though he was a criminal.
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    And people like us
    with jobs and a decent life
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    who can afford to go to a cafe
    for a cup of tea
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    should beware of these kids
    and protect ourselves from them.
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    This poster wasn't only
    put up in this bank,
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    but also in cafes, restaurants,
    department stores and everywhere.
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    How many of you have passed
    by these posters?
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    How many of us haven't noticed them?
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    So the first question arising from this is
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    why are we living in the kind of society
    where a small boy is working at night,
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    doing hard labour
    and being called a thief?
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    Second, why are we living in a society
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    where we have to be cautious of children?
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    I've tried this.
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    Most people answer
    these questions in similar ways.
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    Because these kids' parents
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    weren't able to succeed in their lives,
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    so it's these kids' parents' fault.
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    Let's imagine one
    of these parents' name is Turuu.
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    What we say about Turuu
    is that he's lazy,
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    he likes to live on social welfare,
    he drinks a lot,
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    he doesn't work hard enough,
    also may be when he moved
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    from the countryside to the city
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    he didn't think through and so on.
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    People may think in different ways.
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    So by making these kinds of statements
    we conclude that this person
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    is living in his own bubble, not depending
    on other socio-economic conditions.
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    And because the individual is not
    trying hard enough,
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    we conclude that it's his own
    personal problem.
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    However, there are thousands, millions
    and even billions of people in the world
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    who live in similar conditions as Turuu.
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    It would be wrong to assume
    that this poverty exists
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    because individuals like Turuu
    are not trying hard enough,
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    as if they wanted to live
    in sub-standard conditions.
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    On the contrary, let's imagine
    that Turuu is a very successful man,
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    and most of the members
    of our society are doing well and
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    succeeding in their lives.
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    Here we conclude
    that it's not just because Turuu is
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    a hard-worker and an achiever
    that he's doing well.
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    Instead, our society is conducive
    and has the right socio-economic
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    conditions to make people successful.
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    What this tells us is that we can't just
    sit comfortably inside our own bubbles
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    and judge another person
    as isolated from the society.
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    We shouldn't conclude
    that the problem is just his own.
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    Since this phenomenon [poverty]
    is too common in our society,
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    there should be something wrong
    beyond what we can see.
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    Now, what is the current situation of
    poverty and people like Turuu in Mongolia?
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    Is it similar to what we have imagined?
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    Today there are 634,000 people
    living in poverty in Mongolia.
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    Poverty means not being able
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    to afford their basic needs
    including food.
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    These are people who spend less than
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    140,000 MNT [60 USD]
    per month, as of 2014.
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    Today, 20 percent of Mongolian
    population is living in poverty.
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    In fact, it's more than 20 percent.
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    If we hypothetically increase
    the existing poverty line
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    by 50,000 MNT [26 USD]
    from 146,000 to 196,000 MNT,
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    then 40 percent of the population
    would be classified as living in poverty.
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    That means on top of the 20 percent
    who are currently classified as poor,
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    another 20 percent is living
    in vulnerable conditions
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    where they might fall
    into poverty easily.
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    As such in total 40 percent of us live
    under vulnerable conditions today.
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    Moreover, nearly 80 percent
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    of Mongolian population spend
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    less than 400 thousand tugrugs
    [212 USD] per month.
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    Only 20 percent spend
    more than 400 thousand.
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    Those who spend more than 400 thousand
    per month are less vulnerable to shocks
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    such as price increase and they have
    more or less secure lives.
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    The remaining 80 percent
    are people who might be affected
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    by various financial and personal crises.
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    Let's look at another statistics.
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    Today we say that our society
    is free and equal,
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    everyone can work hard
    and achieve what they deserve.
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    If we imagine our society as evenly
    distributing income and expenses,
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    wealth distribution should look like this.
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    What do you think the current
    situation is in Mongolia?
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    The top two ladders
    of the society altogether
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    occupy 70 percent
    of the total expenditure in Mongolia.
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    The remaining three ladders combined
    occupy only 30 percent.
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    More importantly, the lowest
    ladder occupies only seven percent.
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    We can see from this
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    to what extent has
    income inequality increased.
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    So it shows that when we say
    that Turuu is the one at fault,
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    he is the one who has problems,
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    we are thinking inside our bubble.
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    Now, we should ask
    why so many people are poor,
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    why so much inequality has been
    created in our society,
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    and whether our explanations
    to these questions are done
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    inside or outside the bubble.
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    I want to tell you three
    most common answers.
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    The first answer is that people are
    unequal anyways
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    which is human nature.
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    But in contrast to this belief,
    many studies worldwide and in Mongolia
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    show that people almost
    naturally desire equality.
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    Nobody says I'm living in better or worse
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    conditions than that person.
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    Yet there is one condition
    where we accept inequality.
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    This is when the notion
    about fairness is considered.
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    Fairness.
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    In other words, today Turuu
    worked less than me,
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    so he should earn less than me.
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    I worked harder than him,
    so I should earn more than him.
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    It would be unfair if Turuu earns the same
    as me even though he worked less than me.
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    That's unfair.
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    Unfortunately, our understanding
    and interpretation about fairness
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    is not always fair itself.
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    Let me take a simple example.
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    In India, the caste system
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    allows most people to think
    that it's fair that some people
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    should be wealthy just because
    they are deemed to be born
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    from the head of the divinity,
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    whilst others should be poor because
    they were born from the foot of divinity.
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    Is this fair? Not at all.
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    The second commonly used explanation
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    is that our country is poor,
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    we are barely surviving.
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    This is a wrong assumption.
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    Our country is now
    a middle-income country.
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    Our economy has been growing steadily
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    for more than a decade.
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    Accordingly, the social welfare spending
    has also been increasing.
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    Yet Turuu or those poor
    40 percent of population
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    can't still benefit from this growth.
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    So despite economic growth we are left
    with a significant portion of our society
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    living in or very close to poverty.
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    Let's see the next example.
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    Are poorer people indeed lazy
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    and not trying hard enough
    in their lives?
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    To see whether it's true I want to take
    an example of successful young people.
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    Not long ago, I've been reading
    some articles.
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    Including those that were
    also viral on Facebook.
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    We are all very proud of the young
    people who graduated or studying
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    at Harvard or MIT, and share these posts.
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    They are all outstanding.
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    So quite a few of them were interviewed.
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    I've read all of them.
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    They were asked to share
    the ingredients of their success.
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    The common ingredients were
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    "to dedicate yourself and work harder"
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    or "good knowledge of English".
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    We should be proud of these kids?
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    (Applause)
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    And now let's look
    at the drivers of their success
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    from a broader societal perspective.
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    What we see here is that
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    there are many factors
    behind their success.
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    At least these kids are healthy,
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    they are studying in private schools,
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    they don't need to look after
    a sick father or mother,
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    they can afford to pay
    the tuition fee and so on.
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    In other words, these kids
    are already very close to success,
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    and with a little hard work they can climb
    to seemingly high points on our ladder.
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    In contrast, those people
    mentioned earlier
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    who make up around 60 - 70 percent of
    the population at the bottom of the ladder
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    are not able to get to the same level
    of the ladder if they work equally hard.
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    Because their social
    barriers are very high
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    like the one we see here.
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    So one might be asking,
    what are these barriers?
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    Why can't one work harder
    and climb up the ladder?
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    There are so many factors.
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    For example, quality education
    and health services.
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    Because these people don't have sufficient
    education, don't have necessary skills.
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    Because they don't have skills,
    they can't find job.
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    They don't have work
    then they don't have salaries.
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    No salaries, no savings.
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    No savings, no investment
    in their own life.
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    As such that person
    is trapped into poverty.
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    But today we, the ones
    standing at the top of the ladder
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    and inside our bubbles, are pointing down
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    to the people who are at the bottom
    and telling them to work harder
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    as if we have ever worked ourselves out
    of the situations they find themselves in.
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    The main reason poverty
    and other social issues persist is
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    the big gap in society
    and structural differences
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    and I'm trying to show
    this situation through this picture.
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    Again, the story is not finished.
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    We've just criticised people
    from inside our bubbles.
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    Our imagination about society is
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    created only within
    our limited social boundary.
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    Looking at the results from this study,
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    our own trust and cooperation with others
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    is limited by our parents,
    friends and relatives.
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    In other words, we are still
    operating inside a bubble.
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    So what can we do to burst this bubble?
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    Rather than just sitting here
    and complaining,
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    we should look for solutions.
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    There are two things that need to be done.
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    First, we need to remove
    social barriers or, in other words,
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    narrow the gaps in this ladder,
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    so that those people at the bottom
    can move up the ladder.
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    We need to make social reform.
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    But what is constraining this
    social reform from happening is that we -
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    the young people
    who are the future of Mongolia-
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    still remain in our bubbles, if we don't
    burst them, this change will never happen.
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    Let's reduce the height of the ladder
    with the two arrows pointing
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    and provide equal opportunity.
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    Next, let's burst our bubbles.
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    (Applause)
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    This is a picture of a bubble
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    where we blame or praise the individual
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    and imagine the individual as isolated
    from the rest of the society.
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    We should become the young professionals
    who don't blame the individual
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    but rather who try to see the underlying
    reasons and conditions for problems
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    in a much broader way based on evidence,
    research and using our intelligence.
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    Then why should we burst our bubble
    and what change can this bring?
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    Like this picture
    I'm showing you right here,
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    we want a society where everyone
    has an equal opportunity to move up there
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    and reach success and a society
    with adequate structure.
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    The basis of creating this kind of society
    is that we ourselves leave our bubble.
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    All of us, to burst this bubble, like I
    was trying to convince you earlier,
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    rather than seeing Turuu
    or someone else's success
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    or failure through the matter
    purely of personal effort,
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    we should learn to ask ourselves
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    do we have skills to see
    the society as a whole?
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How to make change to the society? Burst the bubble
Description:

Executive director of Independent Research Institute of Mongolia, sociologist Dolgion specializes in project management, strategy development, monitoring, evaluation, and capacity building. She is currently studying the increasing social stratification in Mongolia, its effect, and possible methods we can utilize as a community to prevent from its negative outcomes.

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Video Language:
Mongolian
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Duration:
15:47

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