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Breaking down risk: Steve Fisher at TEDxAthens

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    Okay. I'd like to present
    a hypothetical idea.
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    A way to practice taking risks,
    because after all,
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    practice makes perfect. Right?
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    So I want you to picture a stadium.
    The biggest stadium you've ever seen.
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    and it's got a huge arch
    over the top of it,
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    a hundred meters high.
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    Now, most people think that that arch
    is simply there for supporting the structure.
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    But others believe that arch is also there
    so that we can tie a rope to the top of it,
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    we can stretch that rope
    all the way to the rim of the stadium
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    and do a huge rope swing
    all the way across.
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    And better still, we can do that
    in a kayak.
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    But wait! What if the rope breaks?
    You could die!
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    Okay, maybe you didn't ask that question.
    But I'm pretty sure that you did ask,
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    "What's a professional kayaker,
    and what's he doing on our stage?"
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    I haven't done much to change the world,
    but I have made a career
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    out of exploring remote rivers.
    And the rivers taught me
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    just about everything I need to know.
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    Growing up in South Africa
    was a good life, but a simple life.
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    No TV, no video games,
    but I did have a kayak and a river.
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    I had the disadvantage of having
    very few kayak mentors
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    to teach me what could be done in a kayak,
    but I had the distinct advantage
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    of having nobody to tell me
    what could not be done.
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    I remember as a young teenager,
    hearing about a French rafting expedition
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    that had attempted to take on and navigate
    the world's biggest rapids,
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    on the Congo River.
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    I saw this old photocopy
    of the Paris Match magazine,
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    and this was the last photo ever taken of them.
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    Right about the same time,
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    I saw an old newspaper
    with this photo of Marco Begni
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    kayaking off a waterfall near my house.
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    If you look at the top left of the frame,
    you'll see a kayak there.
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    I clearly remember walking into the kitchen
    and saying to my parents,
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    "I'm going to kayak down
    that waterfall one day."
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    And my dad said, "Well, son,
    if you work hard and practice,
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    maybe one day you'll be good enough."
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    About ten years later I found myself
    kayaking off that very waterfall.
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    And about 15 years later I found myself
    standing next to the Congo River
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    on the very same spot where
    that last photograph was taken.
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    Now I think the best way for me
    to introduce you to my Congo expedition
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    is to play the trailer to the film that
    I made about it. Have a look.
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    Some call it a calling.
    I think of it as an obsession.
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    Inga.
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    World's biggest rapid.
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    Almost every attempt to survive it
    causes death.
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    I've been kayaking my whole life.
    But when is enough enough?
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    I first heard the story, and seven people
    died having their attempt.
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    Now I've waited half my life for my turn.
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    All I have to do now is call a team of the best,
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    put my friends' lives on the line...
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    I've definitely been struggling with it.
    I've woken up quite a few mornings
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    and just almost felt like calling the boys
    and saying,
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    I just don't know
    if I'm in for this one.
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    This is the obsession: to release yourself
    by accomplishing the goal.
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    Or by being stopped by something outside of your control.
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    But once you start this journey,
    even if you don't want to go,
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    you have to.
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    (Energetic music)
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    You can run all the big water you want,
    but how do you prepare for something
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    that's never been done before?
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    In a place where help is not on its way.
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    Congo.
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    A place where experience is just a word.
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    The lesson that we learned today
    is not to fuck with these rapids.
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    Fisher messed up because he got off
    to the side where whirlpools form,
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    where all of this stuff goes down out here.
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    I may have had the closest call of my life,
    but I didn't come here to die.
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    I came here to win.
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    (Helicopter noise)
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    (Music slowly builds)
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    -Steady bro!
    - Fuck, they're not gonna make it dude!
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    (CONGO: The Grand Inga Project)
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    All right, so. Spoiler alert: we survived.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    So what you just saw
    in the introduction there, is
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    even us extreme sports guys feel trepidation
    as we approach a new challenge.
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    And in this case, it was fearing
    that if we took the next step,
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    the voyage itself would take on a life
    of its own, and drag us along with it.
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    It would be like faring out into a huge river
    with a strong current,
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    and you can't stop.
    It's a commitment.
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    So how, then, do we prepare for something
    that's never been done before?
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    In my profession I have a small box that I start with that has five tools in it.
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    My equipment: I make sure I have the right gear.
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    My physical well-being: I make sure that I've prepared physically for the task.
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    The location: I make sure that I'm in the perfect place to do what I do.
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    And once I've checked those three off, I use those to develop the other two,
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    which are the skills and the experience.
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    But you can't use any of these tools until you demistify risk.
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    We can mitigate risks purely by understanding them, and the way that we understand them
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    is that we take a seemingly impossible idea and we break it down
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    into little digestible parts, and we look at each step individually and see if that is attainable.
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    What happens then is what we're doing, is that we find that many of our fears are unjustified,
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    and very often we find that what's before us is far less risky than we thought.
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    So... (coughs, lowers tone) give me a second. Might need some applause here.
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    (Applause)
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    So you know, as humans, we are not inherently risk averse.
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    We evolved by taking risks, so it's okay if there are risks in what we do.
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    We simply need to understand those risk, and once we understand them,
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    we're ready to take the first step. So let me show you what I mean.
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    Let me show you how I put that to use every time I look at a rapid or a waterfall.
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    As I paddle up to the top of a waterfall, the first thing I do is climb out of my kayak
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    and I walk down the side of the river and I look at the pool below.
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    That's my goal, that's where I want to be.
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    And it's only then that I turn back at the rapid, and Oh my gosh!
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    If I look at the whole rapid it's far too daunting.
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    So what I need to do is break it down into smaller chunks, into individual moves
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    and see that I can do each move individually, and only then do I figure out how to link those moves together.
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    So let's zoom in on this photograph. If I would have shown this top part of the rapids
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    to even an intermediate kayaker, they would say, "Okay. Well that looks fairly chunky, but it's good to go."
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    And if I showed them the next part, they would say, "Oh, that's a pretty straightforward job. Yeah, let's go do it."
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    And if I show them the last part, they would say, "Okay, it's pretty spectacular but it's a straight shot.
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    You don't really need to do anything. It's good to go."
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    You'll have to take my word for that.
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    But the job is not done there. Once we cut a problem horizontally,
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    the next thing we need to do is cut it vertically.
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    What we're trying to do is establish the path or line that we're likely to be on.
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    And the reason that we're doing that is to eliminate the parts of the rapid that don't affect us.
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    The parts of the rapid where we will not be.
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    Because if we do that, then we can look and see if there are any deadly features.
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    If those deadly features are in the eliminated part we never have to think about them again.
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    And if those deadly features are in our path, and they're unavoidable,
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    well then we don't go. It's far too risky.
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    That's how extreme sport works. Sorry to disappoint you guys.
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    So imagine you're walking along a trail like this. You're walking along and you've got a cliff on your left side.
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    You're thinking about what you're doing while you walk. You're not thinking about the cliff the entire time.
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    It's only if you turn towards the cliff and start approaching it that it becomes a real danger.
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    And then you stop.
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    Okay, so how do you know if you're on the right path, and what happens if you're on the wrong path?
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    Well, in kayaking there's no turning back. So what that teaches us is not to panic when things go wrong.
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    When the unexpected occurs we have no choice but to solve the problem and keep on moving.
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    But fortunately, as in life, if we zoom back just a little bit, perhaps to where we haven't yet
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    climbed in the kayak and made the commitment, we get to see that very often
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    we can start down a path, realize we're on the wrong path, turn back and reset the plan.
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    Let me show you what I mean. (Laughter)
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    Have you ever heard the cliche, "never give up"?
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    Well tonight we're canceling it. We don't say that anymore.
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    From now on we say, "Don't give up too easily."
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    On this particular trip, our plan was to use a rope to rappel down into the base of Victoria Falls
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    and kayak through the rapids at the very base of the falls.
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    Once we got down there, we found the unexpected.
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    The wind and the spray from the falls themselves were so strong that it was impossible to kayak,
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    so we had to fall back on to our contingency plan and climb a hundred meters back up the rope
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    and cancel the whole idea.
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    But guess what? The TV show we were making about it turned out great,
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    and we got this photograph. We gave up but we didn't have to feel ashamed of it.
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    if you refuse to give up on an idea, then you inhibit your ability to experiment.
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    But if you're willing to give up after a good effort, then when you do give up
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    there's no reason to feel guilty.
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    Okay, so I think that now you're starting to get to know me a little bit, so I think that we're ready
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    to talk about the stadium idea again.
    How do you guys feel now?
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    But wait! What if the rope breaks? You could die!
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    The rope is not going to break, and here's why.
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    Right from the start, we're going to use a rope that is thousands of pounds stronger than it needs to be.
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    So we've used the right equipment to eliminate the problem and we never have to think about it again.
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    We've eliminated the "what if" factor. It's called "pointing positive".
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    We can now focus on the how, and in this particular case, the more important question is,
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    "How long does that rope need to be to make sure that we don't hit the ground on the way down?"
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    And once we're finished, how are we gonna get from the end of the rope back to the ground?
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    Now, with a few simple mathematical calculations, these are pretty easy problems to solve.
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    So we're ready to go. Are you guys ready? All right, let's do it.
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    (electronic music)
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    (Wind noise)
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    All right. (Applause)
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    I can see you want to do that, don't you?
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    All right. So when we imagined this idea, first of all,
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    the idea sounds crazy. But once we break it down and demystify the risk,
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    then we suddenly find that it's so safe that this very swing has now become a fully fledged commercial operation.
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    Yes. You too can go to Durban, South Africa. You can pay your money,
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    and you can go and do a giant rope swing across a stadium.
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    You can take a leap of faith. And hundreds of people do.
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    And guess what the most common thing that they say is afterwards?
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    "Man! It just really wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, and I feel as if "If I can do that,
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    I can do anything!" And guess what? They're absolutely right.
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    So right now, we all live always at the edge of uncharted waters.
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    And no matter that they're something meaningless like kayaking down a rapid,
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    or meaningful like changing the world, the principle is always the same:
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    We need to buck up and add our piece to the puzzle.
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    It reminds me of a quote that I heard once.
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    I was in the deepest gorge in the world, in Tibet.
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    One of the boys ad-libbed a quote out of a book called "Wanderer" by Sterling Hayden.
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    And I'll give you just one line.
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    "Ive always wanted to sail the seven seas, but I can't afford it. What these people can't afford is not to go."
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    End quote.
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    Thank you very much, Athens!
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    It's been a pleasure and a privilege. Good night!
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    (Applause)
Title:
Breaking down risk: Steve Fisher at TEDxAthens
Description:

How do you prepare for something that has never been done by anyone before? Steve Fisher responded to this on the stage of TEDxAthens.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
15:59
  • There were only a few mistakes like spelling. Other than that, the translations were nearly perfect.

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