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- [Interviewer] We're here
today with Sean Logan,
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director of college counseling
at Phillips Academy.
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Sean, one of the big
decisions that students face
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is that of student
loans when they're going
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through the college admissions process.
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Can you kind of explain to me where are
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the different places I can get loans
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and then how that impacts
what those options are?
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- [Sean] Sure, so the government is
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probably the best source
of loans right now.
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And, you know, there's
also smaller state loan
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programs that are out there,
and that varies by states.
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- [Interviewer] So that's sort
of the federal government,
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then there's the state government.
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- [Sean] Yep.
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- [Interviewer] Okay.
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- [Sean] There are colleges that will
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do their own institutional loans
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and then there are private
institutions that will do loans.
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- [Interviewer] Okay, and of all these
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different options, where should I begin?
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- [Sean] So, with your
financial aid package,
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colleges will help you
sort of understand this,
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but in general, colleges
are gonna use a lot
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of federal money at
first and try to package
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you that way, and again,
it's generally the best
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type of loan you can get.
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There are need-based
loans that are out there
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so you have to have certain
levels of income to qualify.
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The first being that
the Federal Perkins loan
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generally for more lower income students.
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That has a lot of really
positive perks to it.
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They include things like a fixed rate.
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It has no origination fee.
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You have the flexibility
with the government
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paying all of the
interest until six months
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after you graduate, so that's
a great factor for that.
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- [Interviewer] Okay, so you're not gonna
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pay any interest while you're in school.
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- [Sean] While you're in school,
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and you do have, again,
some flexibile terms
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with deferring that if
you go to graduate school.
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And again, you can take out in your
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first year up to 5,500 dollars, uh,
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you can take out up to 5,500
dollars as an undergraduate
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for the Federal Perkins loans.
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- [Interviewer] Okay,
and that's up to 5,500?
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And is that per year or overall?
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- [Sean] Uh, a year.
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- [Interviewer] Okay, got it.
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Are there any other
kind of need-based loans
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that are available from
the federal government?
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- [Sean] There are, so there's
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also subsidized Stafford loans.
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They're not quite as good terms
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as the Perkins loans, but
again, still very good.
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Probably the next best
loan you'll find out there.
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There is an origination fee to that.
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Right now, the interest rate is actually
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a little bit lower than the Perkins loan,
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but that will go up
depending on the markets.
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Again, it has the same maximum
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of 5,500 dollars per, for this
year, for your first year.
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- [Interviewer] And is that
5,500, does it stay 5,500
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every year or does that change?
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- [Sean] So that can go
up as you're a sophomore,
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junior, or senior, that amount can go up.
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So you have a little bit
more flexibility with that.
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And the subsidized Stafford, also,
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their interest rate is also paid for
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by the government until six
months after you graduate.
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- [Interviewer] I see, so that's also
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no interest paid while in school.
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- [Sean] Correct.
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- [Interviewer] Are there any loans that
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the federal government offers
that aren't need-based?
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- [Sean] There are.
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Now, one thing to remember is you still,
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you need to fill out a
FAFSA form to qualify
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for any federal loans,
so even if you, go ahead.
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- [Interviewer] Just so I understand,
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so it's even if I don't
have financial need,
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my family makes a lot of money,
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I still fill out the FAFSA just
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to get access to federal loans.
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- [Sean] Correct, and that's an important
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fact that people don't realize.
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So there is an unsubsidized Stafford loan
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and again, it's not quite as good of terms
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as the other two we've talked about,
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but it's still a very good
option for many families.
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- [Interviewer] Okay,
so I know that the rates
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for the Stafford subsidized
and unsubsidized are the same
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so what are the actual
differences between the two loans?
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- [Sean] So the biggest
difference is is that
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the federal government
will not pay the interest
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while you're in school.
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- [Interviewer] Okay, so
they're not gonna cover you.
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- [Sean] Right.
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- [Interviewer] Okay, and then,
are there any other kinds,
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you mentioned there was one other kind
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of federal loan that's not need-based.
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- [Sean] There also is something
called a direct plus loans
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which a parent can take
out instead of the student.
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It's in the federal program, so it still
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has some of the benefits of that program
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but it's a higher rate, but again,
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it still has a lot of the other benefits
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of the federal program and it's
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backed by the federal government.
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- [Interviewer] Great,
okay, great, so that makes,
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those are for the
federal government loans.
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What about sort of state
or college sources.
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What are those loans all about?
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- [Sean] So again, that
really is gonna depend
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on the state and it's really
gonna depend on the college.
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So, those could be very good options.
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Personally, when I was in college I had
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some of my loans were college loans
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and those loans were actually,
had no interest rate at all.
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So I was basically allowed to borrow,
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again, in that example we used before,
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I borrowed 5,000 dollars but
there was no interest at all.
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All I paid back over the life of the loan
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was the 5,000 dollars, so college loans
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can be a really good opportunity,
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but again, not all colleges offer them
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and some of them don't
have as good of terms
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as say the federal government does.
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- [Interviewer] Okay,
so that's really sort of
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state by state, college by college.
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There's not sort of a
general rule of thumb,
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it's just worth looking into.
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- [Sean] But it's worth looking into.
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The colleges will, if
you qualify for them,
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they'll give you those options.
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At the state level, it's
also worth looking into.
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The colleges will
generally be able to sort
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of let you know if you
qualify for these loans
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and you can decide how good they are for
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your family and your situation.
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- [Interviewer] Great,
and then you mentioned
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federal, state, college, and
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you also mentioned private loans.
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Where do those kind of
fall into this equation?
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- [Sean] So, I think in
terms of the best terms,
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the most flexibility,
they're probably at the,
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you know, they would be my last option.
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Now, they could be very
good options for a family
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that still need money, but I would say
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if you've exhausted those other options,
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this is, that's probably
the next place to go.
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You know, they aren't subsidized.
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They are not need-based.
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And they definitely require,
most of them will require
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a parent to commit to repay
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the loan if the student fails to.
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The interest rates will vary
by the different institutions.
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So, banks, other financial institutions
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typically have the highest interest rates
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and the least flexible payment options.
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- [Interviewer] So then,
why wouldn't, as a student,
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why wouldn't I just
take all Stafford loans
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or Stafford subsidized, or you know,
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if I didn't qualify,
Stafford unsubsidized.
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Why would I even bother looking
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at something like a private loan.
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- [Sean] Well, unfortunately,
with a Stafford loan,
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right now, in the first
year the most you can
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take out is 5,500 dollars and you may need
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a little bit more than that for loans.
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So, you may need to look at other options
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and so that's why you would move down.
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With a Perkins loan, you may not qualify
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because you don't meet
the income standards
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and for the subsidized Stafford loan,
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you may not qualify for that.
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So, again, you may, you would definitely
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qualify for the unsubsidized loan,
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but then if you need a bit more
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you may have to go to
these other alternatives.
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- [Interviewer] I see,
so if you kind of pass
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that yearly maximum on the Stafford loans,
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you don't qualify income-wise for Perkins,
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then it'll be down to either a plus loan,
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which has a fairly high interest rate,
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state or college loan,
which kind of varies,
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or the private loans, and
those can have variable
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interest rates and maybe
not as good repayment terms.
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- [Sean] Right.
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- [Interviewer] But it sounds
like first and foremost,
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if you can get access
to Stafford or Perkins,
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that's the place to start?
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- [Sean] Yes, absolutely.
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- [Interviewer] Great, thank you so much.