Nature is everywhere -- we just need to learn to see it
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0:01 - 0:04We are stealing nature from our children.
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0:05 - 0:08Now, when I say this, I don't mean
that we are destroying nature -
0:08 - 0:10that they will have wanted us to preserve,
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0:10 - 0:13although that is
unfortunately also the case. -
0:13 - 0:17What I mean here is that we've started
to define nature in a way -
0:17 - 0:20that's so purist and so strict
-
0:20 - 0:23that under the definition
we're creating for ourselves, -
0:23 - 0:25there won't be any nature
left for our children -
0:25 - 0:26when they're adults.
-
0:27 - 0:30But there's a fix for this.
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0:30 - 0:31So let me explain.
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0:32 - 0:35Right now, humans use half of the world
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0:35 - 0:38to live, to grow their crops
and their timber, -
0:38 - 0:40to pasture their animals.
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0:40 - 0:42If you added up all the human beings,
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0:42 - 0:46we would weigh 10 times as much
as all the wild mammals put together. -
0:47 - 0:49We cut roads through the forest.
-
0:50 - 0:54We have added little plastic particles
to the sand on ocean beaches. -
0:54 - 0:59We've changed the chemistry of the soil
with our artificial fertilizers. -
0:59 - 1:02And of course, we've changed
the chemistry of the air. -
1:02 - 1:04So when you take your next breath,
-
1:04 - 1:08you'll be breathing in
42 percent more carbon dioxide -
1:08 - 1:10than if you were breathing in 1750.
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1:11 - 1:14So all of these changes, and many others,
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1:14 - 1:18have come to be kind of lumped together
under this rubric of the "Anthropocene." -
1:18 - 1:21And this is a term
that some geologists are suggesting -
1:21 - 1:23we should give to our current epoch,
-
1:23 - 1:26given how pervasive
human influence has been over it. -
1:26 - 1:30Now, it's still just a proposed epoch,
but I think it's a helpful way -
1:30 - 1:34to think about the magnitude
of human influence on the planet. -
1:35 - 1:36So where does this put nature?
-
1:37 - 1:40What counts as nature in a world
where everything is influenced by humans? -
1:41 - 1:46So 25 years ago, environmental writer
Bill McKibben said -
1:46 - 1:50that because nature
was a thing apart from man -
1:50 - 1:52and because climate change meant
-
1:52 - 1:55that every centimeter of the Earth
was altered by man, -
1:55 - 1:57then nature was over.
-
1:57 - 2:00In fact, he called his book
"The End of Nature." -
2:02 - 2:04I disagree with this.
I just disagree with this. -
2:04 - 2:09I disagree with this definition of nature,
because, fundamentally, we are animals. -
2:09 - 2:11Right? Like, we evolved on this planet
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2:11 - 2:16in the context of all the other animals
with which we share a planet, -
2:16 - 2:18and all the other plants,
and all the other microbes. -
2:18 - 2:20And so I think that nature
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2:21 - 2:25is not that which is untouched
by humanity, man or woman. -
2:25 - 2:29I think that nature
is anywhere where life thrives, -
2:29 - 2:32anywhere where there are
multiple species together, -
2:32 - 2:35anywhere that's green and blue
and thriving and filled with life -
2:35 - 2:36and growing.
-
2:38 - 2:39And under that definition,
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2:40 - 2:42things look a little bit different.
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2:42 - 2:46Now, I understand that there
are certain parts of this nature -
2:46 - 2:48that speak to us in a special way.
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2:48 - 2:50Places like Yellowstone,
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2:50 - 2:52or the Mongolian steppe,
-
2:52 - 2:53or the Great Barrier Reef
-
2:53 - 2:55or the Serengeti.
-
2:55 - 2:59Places that we think of
as kind of Edenic representations -
2:59 - 3:01of a nature before
we screwed everything up. -
3:03 - 3:07And in a way, they are less impacted
by our day to day activities. -
3:07 - 3:09Many of these places
have no roads or few roads, -
3:09 - 3:11so on, like such.
-
3:11 - 3:17But ultimately, even these Edens
are deeply influenced by humans. -
3:17 - 3:19Now, let's just take
North America, for example, -
3:19 - 3:21since that's where we're meeting.
-
3:21 - 3:24So between about 15,000 years ago
when people first came here, -
3:24 - 3:27they started a process
of interacting with the nature -
3:27 - 3:31that led to the extinction
of a big slew of large-bodied animals, -
3:31 - 3:33from the mastodon
to the giant ground sloth, -
3:33 - 3:35saber-toothed cats,
-
3:35 - 3:38all of these cool animals
that unfortunately are no longer with us. -
3:38 - 3:40And when those animals went extinct,
-
3:40 - 3:43you know, the ecosystems
didn't stand still. -
3:43 - 3:46Massive ripple effects
changed grasslands into forests, -
3:46 - 3:49changed the composition of forest
from one tree to another. -
3:50 - 3:52So even in these Edens,
-
3:52 - 3:53even in these perfect-looking places
-
3:54 - 3:57that seem to remind us
of a past before humans, -
3:57 - 4:00we're essentially looking
at a humanized landscape. -
4:01 - 4:05Not just these prehistoric humans,
but historical humans, indigenous people -
4:05 - 4:08all the way up until the moment
when the first colonizers showed up. -
4:08 - 4:11And the case is the same
for the other continents as well. -
4:11 - 4:14Humans have just been involved in nature
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4:14 - 4:17in a very influential way
for a very long time. -
4:18 - 4:20Now, just recently, someone told me,
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4:20 - 4:22"Oh, but there are still wild places."
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4:22 - 4:24And I said, "Where? Where? I want to go."
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4:24 - 4:26And he said, "The Amazon."
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4:26 - 4:30And I was like, "Oh, the Amazon.
I was just there. -
4:30 - 4:33It's awesome. National Geographic
sent me to Manú National Park, -
4:33 - 4:34which is in the Peruvian Amazon,
-
4:35 - 4:38but it's a big chunk of rainforest,
uncleared, no roads, -
4:38 - 4:40protected as a national park,
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4:40 - 4:43one of the most, in fact,
biodiverse parks in the world. -
4:43 - 4:47And when I got in there with my canoe,
what did I find, but people. -
4:48 - 4:51People have been living there
for hundreds and thousands of years. -
4:51 - 4:54People live there, and they don't
just float over the jungle. -
4:54 - 4:57They have a meaningful relationship
with the landscape. -
4:57 - 5:00They hunt. They grow crops.
-
5:00 - 5:01They domesticate crops.
-
5:01 - 5:04They use the natural resources
to build their houses, -
5:04 - 5:05to thatch their houses.
-
5:06 - 5:10They even make pets out of animals
that we consider to be wild animals. -
5:10 - 5:12These people are there
-
5:12 - 5:14and they're interacting
with the environment -
5:14 - 5:17in a way that's really meaningful
and that you can see in the environment. -
5:17 - 5:20Now, I was with
an anthropologist on this trip, -
5:20 - 5:22and he told me, as we were
floating down the river, -
5:22 - 5:27he said, "There are
no demographic voids in the Amazon." -
5:27 - 5:29This statement has really stuck with me,
-
5:29 - 5:32because what it means
is that the whole Amazon is like this. -
5:32 - 5:33There's people everywhere.
-
5:34 - 5:36And many other
tropical forests are the same, -
5:36 - 5:38and not just tropical forests.
-
5:38 - 5:41People have influenced
ecosystems in the past, -
5:41 - 5:44and they continue
to influence them in the present, -
5:44 - 5:47even in places where
they're harder to notice. -
5:48 - 5:53So, if all of the definitions of nature
that we might want to use -
5:53 - 5:56that involve it being
untouched by humanity -
5:56 - 5:57or not having people in it,
-
5:57 - 6:03if all of those actually give us
a result where we don't have any nature, -
6:03 - 6:05then maybe they're the wrong definitions.
-
6:05 - 6:09Maybe we should define it
by the presence of multiple species, -
6:09 - 6:11by the presence of a thriving life.
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6:11 - 6:13Now, if we do it that way,
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6:13 - 6:15what do we get?
-
6:15 - 6:17Well, it's this kind of miracle.
-
6:17 - 6:20All of a sudden,
there's nature all around us. -
6:20 - 6:23All of a sudden,
we see this Monarch caterpillar -
6:23 - 6:25munching on this plant,
-
6:25 - 6:27and we realize that there it is,
-
6:27 - 6:29and it's in this empty lot in Chattanooga.
-
6:30 - 6:32And look at this empty lot.
-
6:32 - 6:33I mean, there's, like, probably,
-
6:33 - 6:36a dozen, minimum,
plant species growing there, -
6:36 - 6:39supporting all kinds of insect life,
-
6:39 - 6:43and this is a completely unmanaged space,
a completely wild space. -
6:43 - 6:46This is a kind of wild nature
right under our nose, -
6:46 - 6:48that we don't even notice.
-
6:49 - 6:51And there's an interesting
little paradox, too. -
6:51 - 6:53So this nature,
-
6:53 - 6:55this kind of wild, untended part
-
6:56 - 6:59of our urban, peri-urban,
suburban agricultural existence -
6:59 - 7:02that flies under the radar,
-
7:02 - 7:05it's arguably more wild
than a national park, -
7:06 - 7:09because national parks
are very carefully managed -
7:09 - 7:10in the 21st century.
-
7:10 - 7:14Crater Lake in southern Oregon,
which is my closest national park, -
7:14 - 7:19is a beautiful example of a landscape
that seems to be coming out of the past. -
7:19 - 7:21But they're managing it carefully.
-
7:21 - 7:24One of the issues they have now
is white bark pine die-off. -
7:25 - 7:27White bark pine
is a beautiful, charismatic -- -
7:27 - 7:30I'll say it's a charismatic megaflora
-
7:30 - 7:32that grows up at high altitude --
-
7:32 - 7:35and it's got all these problems
right now with disease. -
7:35 - 7:37There's a blister rust
that was introduced, -
7:37 - 7:38bark beetle.
-
7:38 - 7:42So to deal with this,
the park service has been planting -
7:42 - 7:46rust-resistant white bark
pine seedlings in the park, -
7:47 - 7:50even in areas that they are
otherwise managing as wilderness. -
7:50 - 7:53And they're also putting out
beetle repellent in key areas -
7:53 - 7:55as I saw last time I went hiking there.
-
7:56 - 7:59And this kind of thing is really
much more common than you would think. -
7:59 - 8:01National parks are heavily managed.
-
8:01 - 8:04The wildlife is kept to a certain
population size and structure. -
8:04 - 8:05Fires are suppressed.
-
8:05 - 8:07Fires are started.
-
8:07 - 8:09Non-native species are removed.
-
8:09 - 8:11Native species are reintroduced.
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8:11 - 8:12And in fact, I took a look,
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8:12 - 8:15and Banff National Park
is doing all of the things I just listed: -
8:15 - 8:16suppressing fire, having fire,
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8:17 - 8:19radio-collaring wolves,
reintroducing bison. -
8:19 - 8:22It takes a lot of work to make
these places look untouched. -
8:22 - 8:25(Laughter)
-
8:25 - 8:28(Applause)
-
8:31 - 8:36And in a further irony,
these places that we love the most -
8:36 - 8:38are the places that we love
a little too hard, sometimes. -
8:38 - 8:40A lot of us like to go there,
-
8:40 - 8:42and because we're managing
them to be stable -
8:42 - 8:44in the face of a changing planet,
-
8:44 - 8:47they often are becoming
more fragile over time. -
8:47 - 8:50Which means that they're
the absolute worst places -
8:50 - 8:52to take your children on vacation,
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8:52 - 8:54because you can't do anything there.
-
8:54 - 8:55You can't climb the trees.
-
8:55 - 8:56You can't fish the fish.
-
8:56 - 8:59You can't make a campfire
out in the middle of nowhere. -
8:59 - 9:01You can't take home the pinecones.
-
9:01 - 9:03There are so many rules and restrictions
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9:03 - 9:05that from a child's point of view,
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9:05 - 9:06this is, like, the worst nature ever.
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9:07 - 9:10Because children don't want to hike
-
9:10 - 9:12through a beautiful landscape
for five hours -
9:12 - 9:14and then look at a beautiful view.
-
9:14 - 9:16That's maybe what we want to do as adults,
-
9:16 - 9:19but what kids want to do
is hunker down in one spot -
9:19 - 9:21and just tinker with it,
just work with it, -
9:21 - 9:25just pick it up, build a house,
build a fort, do something like that. -
9:26 - 9:29Additionally, these sort of Edenic places
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9:29 - 9:32are often distant from where people live.
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9:32 - 9:35And they're expensive to get to.
They're hard to visit. -
9:35 - 9:38So this means that they're
only available to the elites, -
9:38 - 9:39and that's a real problem.
-
9:41 - 9:44The Nature Conservancy
did a survey of young people, -
9:44 - 9:48and they asked them, how often
do you spend time outdoors? -
9:48 - 9:51And only two out of five
spent time outdoors -
9:51 - 9:52at least once a week.
-
9:52 - 9:55The other three out of five
were just staying inside. -
9:55 - 9:59And when they asked them why,
what are the barriers to going outside, -
9:59 - 10:02the response of 61 percent was,
-
10:02 - 10:05"There are no natural areas near my home."
-
10:06 - 10:10And this is crazy.
This is just patently false. -
10:10 - 10:13I mean, 71 percent of people in the US
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10:13 - 10:16live within a 10-minute walk
of a city park. -
10:16 - 10:18And I'm sure the figures
are similar in other countries. -
10:18 - 10:21And that doesn't even count
your back garden, -
10:21 - 10:23the urban creek, the empty lot.
-
10:23 - 10:25Everybody lives near nature.
-
10:25 - 10:28Every kid lives near nature.
-
10:28 - 10:30We've just somehow
forgotten how to see it. -
10:30 - 10:33We've spent too much time
watching David Attenborough documentaries -
10:33 - 10:35where the nature is really sexy --
-
10:35 - 10:36(Laughter)
-
10:36 - 10:40and we've forgotten how to see the nature
that is literally right outside our door, -
10:40 - 10:42the nature of the street tree.
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10:42 - 10:44So here's an example: Philadelphia.
-
10:44 - 10:47There's this cool elevated railway
-
10:47 - 10:49that you can see from the ground,
that's been abandoned. -
10:49 - 10:53Now, this may sound like the beginning
of the High Line story in Manhattan, -
10:53 - 10:56and it's very similar, except they haven't
developed this into a park yet, -
10:56 - 10:58although they're working on it.
-
10:58 - 11:01So for now, it's still this little
sort of secret wilderness -
11:01 - 11:02in the heart of Philadelphia,
-
11:02 - 11:05and if you know where the hole is
in the chain-link fence, -
11:05 - 11:07you can scramble up to the top
-
11:07 - 11:10and you can find this
completely wild meadow -
11:10 - 11:12just floating above
the city of Philadelphia. -
11:13 - 11:16Every single one of these plants
grew from a seed -
11:16 - 11:17that planted itself there.
-
11:17 - 11:20This is completely autonomous,
self-willed nature. -
11:20 - 11:22And it's right in the middle of the city.
-
11:22 - 11:25And they've sent people up there
to do sort of biosurveys, -
11:25 - 11:28and there are over 50
plant species up there. -
11:29 - 11:30And it's not just plants.
-
11:30 - 11:33This is an ecosystem,
a functioning ecosystem. -
11:33 - 11:36It's creating soil.
It's sequestering carbon. -
11:36 - 11:38There's pollination going on.
-
11:38 - 11:40I mean, this is really an ecosystem.
-
11:41 - 11:45So scientists have started calling
ecosystems like these "novel ecosystems," -
11:45 - 11:48because they're often
dominated by non-native species, -
11:48 - 11:50and because they're just super weird.
-
11:50 - 11:52They're just unlike anything
we've ever seen before. -
11:52 - 11:56For so long, we dismissed
all these novel ecosystems as trash. -
11:56 - 11:59We're talking about
regrown agricultural fields, -
11:59 - 12:02timber plantations that are not
being managed on a day-to-day basis, -
12:02 - 12:05second-growth forests generally,
the entire East Coast, -
12:05 - 12:09where after agriculture moved west,
the forest sprung up. -
12:09 - 12:12And of course, pretty much all of Hawaii,
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12:12 - 12:14where novel ecosystems are the norm,
-
12:15 - 12:17where exotic species totally dominate.
-
12:17 - 12:20This forest here has Queensland maple,
-
12:20 - 12:22it has sword ferns from Southeast Asia.
-
12:23 - 12:25You can make your own
novel ecosystem, too. -
12:25 - 12:26It's really simple.
-
12:26 - 12:28You just stop mowing your lawn.
-
12:28 - 12:30(Laughter)
-
12:30 - 12:33Ilkka Hanski was an ecologist in Finland,
and he did this experiment himself. -
12:33 - 12:35He just stopped mowing his lawn,
-
12:35 - 12:37and after a few years,
he had some grad students come, -
12:37 - 12:40and they did sort of
a bio-blitz of his backyard, -
12:40 - 12:44and they found 375 plant species,
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12:44 - 12:46including two endangered species.
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12:48 - 12:54So when you're up there
on that future High Line of Philadelphia, -
12:54 - 12:56surrounded by this wildness,
-
12:56 - 13:00surrounded by this diversity,
this abundance, this vibrance, -
13:00 - 13:01you can look over the side
-
13:01 - 13:04and you can see a local playground
for a local school, -
13:04 - 13:06and that's what it looks like.
-
13:06 - 13:08These children have, that --
-
13:08 - 13:10You know, under my definition,
-
13:10 - 13:12there's a lot of the planet
that counts as nature, -
13:12 - 13:15but this would be one of the few places
that wouldn't count as nature. -
13:15 - 13:19There's nothing there except humans,
no other plants, no other animals. -
13:19 - 13:20And what I really wanted to do
-
13:20 - 13:22was just, like,
throw a ladder over the side -
13:22 - 13:26and get all these kids to come up with me
into this cool meadow. -
13:26 - 13:29In a way, I feel like this is
the choice that faces us. -
13:29 - 13:34If we dismiss these new natures
as not acceptable or trashy or no good, -
13:35 - 13:38we might as well just pave them over.
-
13:38 - 13:40And in a world where
everything is changing, -
13:40 - 13:43we need to be very careful
about how we define nature. -
13:44 - 13:46In order not to steal it
from our children, -
13:46 - 13:48we have to do two things.
-
13:48 - 13:52First, we cannot define nature
as that which is untouched. -
13:52 - 13:54This never made any sense anyway.
-
13:54 - 13:56Nature has not been untouched
for thousands of years. -
13:56 - 14:00And it excludes most of the nature
that most people can visit -
14:00 - 14:02and have a relationship with,
-
14:02 - 14:06including only nature
that children cannot touch. -
14:06 - 14:09Which brings me to the second thing
that we have to do, -
14:09 - 14:11which is that we have to
let children touch nature, -
14:12 - 14:14because that which
is untouched is unloved. -
14:14 - 14:17(Applause)
-
14:23 - 14:27We face some pretty grim
environmental challenges on this planet. -
14:27 - 14:29Climate change is among them.
-
14:29 - 14:31There's others too:
habitat loss is my favorite thing -
14:31 - 14:34to freak out about
in the middle of the night. -
14:34 - 14:35But in order to solve them,
-
14:35 - 14:38we need people --
smart, dedicated people -- -
14:38 - 14:40who care about nature.
-
14:40 - 14:43And the only way we're going to raise up
a generation of people -
14:43 - 14:44who care about nature
-
14:44 - 14:46is by letting them touch nature.
-
14:46 - 14:49I have a Fort Theory of Ecology,
-
14:49 - 14:51Fort Theory of Conservation.
-
14:51 - 14:54Every ecologist I know,
every conservation biologist I know, -
14:54 - 14:56every conservation professional I know,
-
14:56 - 14:58built forts when they were kids.
-
14:59 - 15:02If we have a generation
that doesn't know how to build a fort, -
15:02 - 15:05we'll have a generation that doesn't
know how to care about nature. -
15:05 - 15:07And I don't want
to be the one to tell this kid, -
15:07 - 15:09who is on a special program
-
15:09 - 15:11that takes Philadelphia kids
from poor neighborhoods -
15:11 - 15:13and takes them to city parks,
-
15:13 - 15:16I don't want to be the one to tell him
that the flower he's holding -
15:16 - 15:19is a non-native invasive weed
that he should throw away as trash. -
15:20 - 15:23I think I would much rather
learn from this boy -
15:23 - 15:26that no matter
where this plant comes from, -
15:26 - 15:30it is beautiful, and it deserves
to be touched and appreciated. -
15:30 - 15:31Thank you.
-
15:31 - 15:39(Applause)
- Title:
- Nature is everywhere -- we just need to learn to see it
- Speaker:
- Emma Marris
- Description:
-
How do you define "nature?" If we define it as that which is untouched by humans, then we won't have any left, says environmental writer Emma Marris. She urges us to consider a new definition of nature -- one that includes not only pristine wilderness but also the untended patches of plants growing in urban spaces -- and encourages us to bring our children out to touch and tinker with it, so that one day they might love and protect it.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 15:52
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