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Forensic neuroscience can mean life or death - Dr. Scott Fraser at TEDxUSC

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    The murder happened a little over
    21 years ago on January 18th 1991.
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    In a small bedroom community
    of Lynwood, California,
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    just a few miles southeast of Los Angeles.
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    Father came out of his house to tell
    his teenage son and his five friends
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    that it was time for them
    to stop horsing around
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    on the front lawn and on the sidewalk,
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    to get home,
    finish their school work,
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    prepare themselves for bed.
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    And as the father was administering these
    instructions, a car drove by, slowly.
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    And just after it passed the father
    and the teenagers, a hand went out
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    from the front passenger window
    and Bam! Bam!, killing the father.
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    And the car sped off.
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    The police investigating officers
    were amazingly efficient.
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    They considered all the usual culprits,
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    and in less than 24 hours
    they had selected their suspect;
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    Francisco Carrillo,
    a seventeen-year-old kid,
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    who lived about two or three blocks away
    from where the shooting occurred.
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    They found photos of him,
    they prepared a photo array,
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    and the day after the shooting
    they showed it to one of the teenagers
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    and he said, "That's the picture, that's
    the shooter I saw that killed the father."
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    That was all a preliminary hearing judge
    had to listen to,
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    to bind Mr Carrillo over
    to stand trial for a first-degree murder.
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    In the investigation that followed
    before the actual trial,
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    each of the other five teenagers was shown
    photographs, the same photo array.
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    The picture that we best can determine
    was probably the one that they were shown
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    in the photo array is in your bottom
    left-hand corner of these mugshots.
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    The reason we're not sure absolutely
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    is because of the nature of evidence
    preservation in our judicial system.
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    But that's another whole
    TEDxTalk for later.
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    So, at the actual trial
    all six of the teenagers testified
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    and indicated identifications
    they had made in the photo array.
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    He was convicted,
    he was sentenced to life imprisonment,
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    and transported to Folsom prison.
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    So what's wrong? Straightforward,
    fair trial, full investigation.
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    Oh yes, no gun was ever found.
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    No vehicle was ever identified
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    as being the one in which
    the shooter had extended his arm,
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    and no person was ever charged with
    being the driver of the shooter's vehicle.
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    And Mr Carrillo's alibi?
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    Which of those parents
    here in the room might not lie
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    concerning the whereabouts of your son or
    daughter in an investigation of a killing?
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    Sent to prison,
    adamantly insisting on his innocence,
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    which he has consistently for 21 years.
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    So what's the problem?
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    The problems actually for
    this kind of case come manifold
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    from decades of scientific research
    involving human memory.
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    First of all we have
    all the statistical analysis
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    from the Innocence Project work,
    where we know
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    that we have, what,
    250, 280 documented cases now,
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    where people have been
    wrongfully convicted
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    and subsequently exonerated,
    some from death row,
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    on the basis of later DNA analysis.
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    And you know that over three-quarters
    of all of those cases of exoneration
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    involved only eye-witness
    identification testimony
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    during the trial that convicted them.
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    We know that eye-witness identifications
    are fallible
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    The other comes from
    an interesting aspect of human memory,
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    that's related to various brain functions,
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    but I can sum up for the sake of brevity
    here in a simple line:
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    the brain abhors a vacuum.
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    Under the best of observation conditions,
    the absolute best,
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    we only detect, encode
    and store in our brains,
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    bits and pieces of
    the entire experience in front of us,
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    and they're stored
    in different parts of the brain.
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    So now when it's important
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    for us to be able to recall
    what it was that we experienced,
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    we have an incomplete, we have
    a partial store, and what happens?
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    Below awareness, with no requirement
    for any kind of motivated processing,
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    the brain fills in information
    that was not there, not originally stored,
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    from inference, from speculation,
    from sources of information
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    that came to you as
    the observer after the observation.
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    But it happens without awareness such
    that you aren't cognizant of it occurring.
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    It's called reconstructed memories.
    It happens to us
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    in all the aspects of our lives,
    all the time.
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    Let me ask you to consider
    the horrific events of 9/11.
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    Think about when you first got
    the information about this catastrophe,
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    how you felt and more importantly,
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    when was first time you saw
    the second trade tower imploding collapse,
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    after the first trade tower had gone down?
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    If you're like most Americans,
    myself included,
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    you have a very clear memory
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    that you saw the first tower come down
    and then you saw
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    the second tower finally collapse
    after the other plane crashed into it
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    within an hour or two afterwards.
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    I remember vividly where I was.
    I was down at LAX,
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    at the satellite terminal
    for American Airlines,
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    waiting to get on an airplane
    to fly to San Diego.
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    Of course, all the air traffic was ceased.
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    And so I had nothing to do but
    to sit and watch the television monitors
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    with all of the news broadcasts
    over and over and over again.
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    Of the horrendous events and I know I saw
    that second trade tower come down
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    an hour or two after the first.
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    And all of the research we have indicates
    that most Americans too,
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    except for a few people
    that live in certain places in New York.
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    And you know something?
    That's a totally false memory.
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    It could not be something you experience,
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    there was absolutely no media footage
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    of the second trade tower collapsing
    until over 24 hours after the event.
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    But in fact you know
    intellectually, cognitively,
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    that they did occur fairly close in time.
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    You did know about and see the first one,
    you did see the second one;
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    but you didn't see it until
    over a day later at the earliest.
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    But the brain without you being aware
    has pulled them together,
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    and you believe you saw them
    very close in time.
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    It is a reconstructed memory,
    not an accurate memory.
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    No matter how vivid,
    no matter how sure you are,
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    it was those two considerations
    among others,
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    reconstructed memory, the fact
    about the eye-witness fallibility,
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    that was part of the instigation
    for a group of appeal attorneys
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    led by an amazing lawyer,
    named Ellen Eggers,
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    to pool their experience and accounts
    together and petition the superior court
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    for a retrial for Francisco Carrillo.
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    They retained me
    as a forensic neurophysiologist
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    because I had expertise
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    in eye-witness memory identification,
    which obviously makes sense for this case,
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    but also because I'd expertise and testify
    about the nature of human night vision.
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    Well, what's that got to do with this?
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    Well, when you read through
    the case materials in this Carrillo case,
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    one of the things
    that suddenly strikes you is that
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    the investigating officers
    said the lighting was good
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    at the crime scene, at the shooting.
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    All the teenagers testified
    during the trial
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    that they could see very well.
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    But this occurred in mid-January,
    in the northern hemisphere,
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    at 7 pm at night.
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    So when I did the calculations,
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    at that location on Earth at the time
    of the incident of the shooting,
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    it was well past the end of civil twilight
    and there was no moon up the night.
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    So all the light in this area
    from the sun and the moon
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    is what you see on the screen right here.
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    The only lighting in that area had to come
    from artificial sources.
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    And that's where I go out and I do
    the actual reconstruction of the scene
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    with photometers,
    with various measures of illumination
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    and various other
    measures of power perception
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    along with special cameras
    and high-speed film;
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    take all the measurements and record them,
    and then take photographs.
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    and this is what the scene looked like
    at the time the of the shooting
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    from the position of the teenagers
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    looking at the car going by and shooting.
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    This is looking directly
    across the street,
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    remember the investigating officer's
    report said the lighting was good;
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    teenagers said they could see very well.
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    This is looking directly across the street
    from where they were standing.
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    This is looking down to the east
    where the shooting vehicle sped off.
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    And this is the lighting directly behind
    the father and the teenagers.
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    As you can see it is at best poor.
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    No one is gonna call this
    well-lit, good lighting
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    and in fact as nice as these pictures are
    and the reason we take them
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    is I knew I was going
    to have to testify in court.
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    And a picture is worth
    more than a thousand words
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    when you're trying to communicate numbers,
    abstract concepts like lux,
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    the international measurement
    of illumination,
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    the Ishihara color
    are color perception test values.
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    When you present those to people
    who are not well-versed
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    in those aspects of science and that,
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    they become salamanders
    in the noonday sun.
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    It's like talking about
    the tangent of the visual angle;
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    their eyes just glaze over.
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    A good forensic expert
    also has to be a good educator,
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    a good communicator and that's part
    of the reason why we take the pictures
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    to show not only where
    the light sources are
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    and what we call the spill,
    the distribution,
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    but also so that
    it's easier for the trier of fact
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    to understand the circumstances.
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    So these are some of the pictures
    that in fact I use when I testify.
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    But more importantly were to me,
    the scientists, are those readings,
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    the photometer readings,
    which I can then convert
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    into actual predictions
    of the visual capability of the human eye
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    under those circumstances.
    And from my readings
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    that I recorded at the scene
    under the same solar and lunar conditions
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    at the same time and so on and so forth,
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    I could predict that there would be
    no reliable color perception
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    which is crucial for face recognition.
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    And that there would
    only be scotopic vision
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    which meant there'd be
    very little resolution
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    which we call boundary or edge detection,
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    and furthermore because the eyes would
    have been totally dilated
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    under this light,
    the depth of field,
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    the distance at which you can
    focus and see details
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    would have been less
    than 18 inches away.
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    I testified to that to the court
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    and while the judge was very attentive,
    it had been a very, very long hearing
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    for this petition for a retrial.
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    And as a result I'd noticed
    out of the corner of my eye
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    that I thought that maybe the judge
    was going to need a little more of a nudge
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    than just more numbers.
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    And here I became a bit audacious
    and I turned and I asked the judge,
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    I said, "Your honor, I think you should
    go out and look at the scene yourself."
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    Now I may have used a tone
    which was more like a dare than a request,
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    but nonetheless it's to
    this man's credit and his courage,
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    that he said, "Yes, I will"
    a shocker in American jurisprudence.
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    So in fact we found
    the same identical conditions,
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    we reconstructed the entire thing again,
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    he came out with
    an entire brigade of sheriff's officers
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    to protect him in this community.
    (Laughter)
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    We had him stand actually
    slightly in the street, so closer
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    to the shooter vehicle
    than the actual teenagers were.
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    So he stood a few feet from the curb
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    toward the middle of the street.
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    We had a car that came by,
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    same identical car
    as described by the teenagers.
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    It had a driver and a passenger,
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    and after the car had passed the judge by,
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    the passenger extended his hand,
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    pointed it back to the judge,
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    as the car continued on,
    just as the teenagers had described it.
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    Now, we didn't use a real gun in his hand,
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    we thought the sheriff's department
    would probably question the necessity
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    for that kind of realism.
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    So we had a black object in his hand that
    was similar to the gun that was described.
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    He pointed, Bam!
    And this is what the judge saw.
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    This is the car
    30 feet away from the judge.
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    There's an arm sticking out
    of the passenger side
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    and pointed back at you.
    That's 30 feet away.
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    Some of the teenagers
    just said that in fact
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    the car was 15 feet away
    when it shot.
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    There's 15 feet.
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    At this point I became a little concerned.
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    This judge is someone
    you'd never wanna play poker with.
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    He was totally stoic.
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    I couldn't see a twitch of his eyebrow,
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    I couldn't see
    the slightest bend of his head.
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    I had no sense of how
    he was reacting to this.
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    And after he looked at this re-enactment,
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    he turned to me and he says, "Is there
    anything else you want me to look at?"
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    I said, "Your Honor," and I don't know
    whether I was emboldened,
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    by the scientific measurements
    that I had in my pocket,
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    and my knowledge that they are accurate,
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    or whether it was just sheer stupidity,
    which is what the defense lawyers thought
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    when they heard me say, "Yes Your Honor,
    I want you to stand right there.
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    I want the car to go around
    the block again.
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    And I want it to come, and I want it
    to stop right in front of you,
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    three to four feet away
    and I want the passenger
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    to extend his hand with a black object,
    point right at you,
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    and you can look at it
    as long as you want."
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    And that's what he saw.
    (Laughter)
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    You'll notice,
    which was also in my test report,
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    all the dominant lighting
    is coming from the north side
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    which means that the shooter's face
    would have been photo occluded,
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    would have been backlit.
    Furthermore, the roof of the car
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    is causing what we call
    a shadow cloud inside the car,
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    which is making it darker.
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    And this is three to four feet away.
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    Why did I take the risk?
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    I knew the depth of field was
    18 inches or less.
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    Three to four feet; it might as well
    have been a football field away.
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    This is what he saw, went back,
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    there was a few more days of evidence
    that was heard.
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    At the end of it, he made the judgment
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    that he was going to grant
    the petition for a retrial,
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    and furthermore he released Mr Carrillo
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    so he could aid in the preparation
    of his own defense
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    if the prosecution decided to retry him.
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    Which they decided not to.
    He is now a freed man.
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    (Applause)
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    This is him embracing here
    his grandmother-in-law.
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    His girlfriend was pregnant
    when he went to trial
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    and she had a little baby boy.
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    He and his son are both attending
    Cal State, Long Beach,
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    right now, taking classes.
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    (Applause)
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    What does this example, what's important
    to keep in mind for ourselves?
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    First of all there's a long history
    of antipathy between science and the law
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    in American jurisprudence.
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    I could regale you with
    horror stories of ignorance.
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    Over decades of experience
    as a forensic expert,
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    of just trying to get science
    into the courtroom,
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    deposing council
    always fighting an opposer.
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    One suggestion is that all of us
    become much more attuned
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    to the necessity, through policy,
    through procedures,
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    to get more science in the courtroom.
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    And I think one large step
    toward that is more requirements,
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    with all due respect to the law schools,
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    of science, technology,
    engineering, mathematics,
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    for anyone going into the law
    because they become the judges.
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    Think about how
    we select our judges in this country,
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    it's very different
    than most other cultures.
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    The other ones I wanna suggest,
    the caution that all of us have to have,
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    I constantly have to remind myself
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    about just how accurate are the memories
    that we know are true,
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    that we believe in.
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    There is decades of research,
    examples and examples of cases like this,
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    where individuals really, really believe.
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    None of those teenagers
    who identified him
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    thought that they were picking
    the wrong person,
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    none of them thought
    they couldn't see the person's face.
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    We all have to be very careful.
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    You just saw a marvelous film
    about all kinds of complexities of memory,
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    It is an enormously confusing
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    and difficult set of processes
    and principles that are involved.
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    All our memories
    are reconstructed memories.
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    They are the product
    of what we originally experienced
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    and everything that's happened afterwards.
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    They're dynamic, they're malleable,
    they're volatile, and as a result
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    we all need to remember to be cautious.
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    That the accuracy of our memories
    is not measured in how vivid they are
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    nor how certain you are
    that they're correct.
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    I'm sure I saw the second trade tower
    collapse an hour later,
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    but I know it could not have happened.
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    Thank you.
  • 21:05 - 21:07
    (Applause)
Title:
Forensic neuroscience can mean life or death - Dr. Scott Fraser at TEDxUSC
Description:

Dr Scott Fraser discusses a drive-by shooting in which witness evidence turned out to be flawed as in many other similar cases. He considers the problems of memory and looks at how the quality of light at a crime scene can be scientifically investigated.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
21:15

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