'I know' to 'I don't know' is the Whole Journey

Satsang with rajee on 2nd July, 2014 in Pune, India.
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Seeing everything as it is is being free.

So just see everything as it is.

How you will see everything as it is?

By dropping the sense of knowledge, that 'I know'.

This is the only thing which is in the way, that 'I know'.

Even a very small quantity of knowledge you're holding back

that 'I don't know anything, but I know this'

is enough to pollute your view.

So you will have to come to a point where you can clearly see.

So you must start from the knowledge, let's say

Start seeing the knowledge as it is.

What is knowledge?

You must see what is knowledge.

When I say 'I know this phone'

what does it mean?

Have a look inside, check. What does it mean that I know?

When I say I know David, what does it mean?

What does it include, what is included in this package
'I know you'?

A memory, that we met few weeks before.

And we have been slowly slowly friends,

and we are open and we are doing this and sitting together,

like this, like this, like this...

Is there anything more that this?

If there is nothing more than the memory

in the mind

then how can I say I really know you?

It's like every moment

every meeting is new between me and you,

whereas 'I know' is like

coming from this memory.

So it's like average of all my moments of the memory

or essence

That is what I call 'I know David'.

Just have a look - you will know this, not so

so easy to understand verbally,

but just have a look - what do you mean by knowledge,

what do you mean when you say 'I know'.

What does it mean?

So don't remove anything

just see it as it is.

You will become immediately aware

that 'I know' is a very limited

limited knowledge

a very day-to-day usage - it's OK for daily usage,

but not ultimately.

Even when you say 'I know' - I know a rose, I know a flower -

what does it mean?

I know a flower, I know a rose means

referring to the experience you have had so far

of this flower, or any flower.

Anything you have read on internet,

in books or anywhere about flower.

You had some direct experience of smelling flower or like this,

combined together in what you call

'I know a rose, I know a flower', isn't it?

But if you see it, you will be very clear about it.

It's very limited knowledge, as far as a flower is concerned,

because every flower every moment is new, fresh, always.

What I call 'I know' is basically 'I know about'.

Except your very deep experiences of anything,

anything that you refer to as your knowledge

is knowing about it.

Not knowing it.

Knowing it means like water, drinking. This is knowing water.

And drinking, and then in the mind - remembering

for the next time what was the taste of water.

This is knowing about water.

Not of any use. Not of much use, you can say.

Good for talking with friends and communication with others,

but not for knowing the truth of life.

So starting from the verification of your knowledge

and slowly you will reach to the point that 'I don't really know anything'

So the sense 'I know'

is what is in the way.

Once removed, you become free.

Your eyes become clean. Then you see everything as it is.

Then this camera is something

you will be able to see the camera beyond the word,

beyond the definition 'camera', you know, like this.

This is seeing it as it is.

When we were talking, all of us, little bit, then you guys have some name, a background, you know, like this,

so we are having a talk person to person, men to men,
women to women, like this

But when we are sitting here

we are not using names

we are not using any memory or any impression about you.

Then - then what is this? Then what is this?

Then what you see is what actually it is.

You are totally free to see the truth of life

if you don't insist on this sense 'I know. I know, I know'.

You're always free, every moment you are free to see it
as it is.

Nothing is... when I look at this

it looks like if you don't... if you're not looking from this position,

from 'I know', it looks like - OK, whatever it is. Then there is no acceptance and there is no rejection.

When you reject anything, what does it mean?

It means you already know with what you have to compare. You know?

OK, you are already having a checklist of qualities

you are looking for in this particular experience or thing.

So you already know - no, this is not there.

Whereas I'm saying 'I know' is a wrong position

to hold before you really know yourself.

Before you know yourself
you cannot really have any true knowledge.

All the knowledge will be mental knowledge, you can say,

bookish knowledge - not real knowledge.

Real knowledge happens when you really connect with anything, become one with anything.

That is the only way of having real knowledge.

We say that we know mind - we don't.

To know mind you will have to be totally one with the mind, totally comfortable with the mind.

It means you are here, thoughts are moving,
and you are comfortably here.

Not like 'oh oh oh', you know.

It's like - OK.

Then you will see it as it is.

It should be like this, it should not be like this...

This is what our... this is the way we meet everything, actually.

You always have some kind of preparation
to accept or reject it.

Isn't it?

When you don't have any idea of what exactly it is -

I mean you have clearly seen that your ideas are not really knowledge -

then you become free from them,

then you don't allow, give them any value
while you are looking at anything.

Very live example:

this is a spiritual teacher, non-duality teacher.

Remove this word,

and the definition, and everything, and now look again -

then you will see what actually it is.

And you will like a...

it's something very different from what it appears to be.

Knowing the truth does not need any

special qualities, special skills in the mind.

You don't need to be a great seeker, great scholar.

A child-like mind

with awareness is enough.

Child-like means 'I don't know anything'.

Child-like means 'I don't know'.

And you are comfortable with this 'I don't know',

not like 'Ooohoho, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,
what to do, what to do?'

You're OK - 'Yes. This is my present position, I don't know.'

'Whatever it is - now let's see what will happen next.'

'But right now I am going to stick to the truth of myself;

my truth, my present truth is - I don't know.'

And i say to you

when you are reaching to a complete 'I don't know',
it is a door.

On one side of the door when you are coming from mind,

coming from knowledge, coming from the sense of 'I know'

to the 'I don't know' is a gate.

On one side of the door is 'I don't know' with a crying face,
like 'Ooooh, I don't know, I don't know....'

You just stay here for some time.

Without you knowing anything you will enter into the gate

gate of your self, gate of the truth of life.

On the other side

From the other side on the same door it is written 'I don't know', with a smiley face, with a celebration like 'Yeaaah!'

It is so unburdening, it is so liberating, that 'I don't know'.

'I know' is such a burden

when you are living as yourself.

When you don't know yourself, 'I know' is the only torch you think you are holding.

Which can show you anything....

otherwise it's all darkness, no?
'I don't know' means it's all darkness.

So it's a very bad situation, very bad condition when

you are not knowing yourself - 'I don't know'....

When you know yourself, then it is such an impurity - 'I know'.

'I know' is such an impurity, because you have capacity
to see everything directly, without knowledge.

And you have not explored it yet, so you have to be dependent on second-hand knowledge of the mind.

Why you need to know anything about an apple when you are eating it?

You are eating, you are one with the apple, you are totally one with the apple.

Taste, body and mind - everything is one in this moment.

Why you need to know anything about it?

You don't need to know; apple also don't need to know anything.

I mean apple has not put any condition that until you know myself, I will not allow you to eat, isn't it?

It is for others.

If you ask me how was apple, what i will say?

You can.... it is like a decision, a courage that you have to develop in you; you can say....

And just you kind of....

train yourself how to escape such conflicts

where you are supposed to say something about it,

and you know that you don't know,
and you don't want to use any false knowledge.

And you'll say - 'I'm fine'.

So it's not that truth is hiding anywhere.

Truth is not hiding anywhere - it is right here.

Everywhere.

It is

from which position you look is

what will decide what you will see, or what you will find.

Your position of deluded state 'I know'

will show you only what is limited to this 'I',
this circle of 'I know',

so you can never go beyond this circle of 'I know'.

And if you want to know the Truth,
you have to leave this 'I know'.

See it as it is - no expectation, no hurry,

because all this hurry, all this restlessness
is because of already -

first of all I know. And this 'I know' is polluting everything - I know how

what is awakening, I know what is this, you know.

And you're every moment touching this awakening, rejecting it continuously. Because 'I know' it is not this.

You all are right now living in Truth;
you are in Truth right now with awareness.

I mean the full Truth - you right now, all of you,
are in full Truth, full awakening.

Truth and awareness, both.

But how do you know

your question is - for example, from your side valid question would be: 'How can I know this is Truth?'

My question is: ' How do you know it is not?'

My question is: ' How do you know it is not?'

So you have right to ask this question, that maybe it is not truth.

I also have a question to ask, that maybe it is.

So let's have a tie here.

I will not say it is Truth, you don't say it is not Truth.

Let's remain open.

Because if it is Truth,

it is self-evident; it has its own evidence.

It does not need evidence from outside,
for somebody to say that it is true.

It will prove itself to you.

The only condition is - you have to stay.

You have to stay with the purity of your heart.

'I don't know...' Just stay.

It will prove itself to you.

'Yes, I am Truth.'

So is it OK, we are having a tie now -

I don't say it is Truth, you don't say it is not.

We don't know what it is.

If it is truth, it will prove itself.

Truth is not something which is hiding somewhere, and

if you move little bit it will fall, it will disappear,
you will miss the chance to get it.

It's everywhere, all the time, like this.

You can miss, you can escape from everything but Truth.

You can find the place where you can

you can escape from certain qualities, certain states, certain feelings, certain emotions, certain capacities, experiences

of yourself

but you can never escape Truth. There is no place where you don't find Truth.

The only way to escape Truth is

not seeing everything as it is. So don't put any conditions.

And you don't know how many conditions we are putting.

When we are here, all of us are here,
already there is a condition

that I don't know myself, I want to know myself, that's why I'm here.

Already it is a condition - very deep, not so easy to detect,
but still it is a condition.

How do you know that you don't know yourself?

Maybe it is just a very idea that 'I don't know myself' is keeping you away from living yourself as yourself.

Maybe just this much.

How do you know this?

So let us live very very neutral, in a neutral state.

I'm neither for nor against.

So you are here. You don't know why you are here.

Let us keep it like this. I mean, I knew why I came here, but now I don't know.

I cannot really say why I came - I'm here now.

Stay like this.

I'm just here.

Any difficulty, any fear you have inside yourself

is connected with 'I know' in some form, in some way.

I can lose myself, I can lose myself...

Or, for example, a sense of losing control.

How do you know there is any control in the first place?

Have you checked really that there is, you have a control over life, over your actions, over the events of your life?

Do you have any control already?

Because it's a very common, very very common

rooted experience that seekers feel as they go deeper, very very deep

that they feel like sense of losing control of their life.

So my question is

did you have a control ever in the first place?

Have you checked?

It is also coming from 'I know'.

So for me it's like 'I know'

to 'I don't know'.

This is a whole journey

from 'I know' to 'I don't know'.

And from 'I don't know' you don't need any efforts,

because it's such a restless state - 'I don't know',
it is such a dark state of the being

that being will jump into itself very easily,
will slip into self very easily.

Very comfortably it will slip,
and before you know you are living as your self.

Because 'I don't know' is like living without any juice of life,

without any joy of life, without any beauty of life.

It looks like... living without a reference point for yourself.

If you feel, he needs to ask anything, we can little bit talk, maybe.

Like you can work as a translator if it is appropriate.

Q: I'm very sorry, we don't speak English very well,

but anyway we will try to speak.

We're looking for something but we don't know what we're looking.

So to say, for me it's I understand maybe 20-30% of what you say.

But I feel very well.

Aha. That is more important.

Feeling is what is needed here, actually.

To know the truth you need feeling,

not thinking, you know. So you miss all my words - it's OK.

But not what I am.

You know, you miss what i say,
but you get what I am. Then we are done.

So we need... you need receptivity in the heart, the feeling,

not how accurately you are able to receive my words, you know.

They are just nothing.

They are just happening right now because there's need to talk.

Otherwise there is no need to talk, we will just sit silently., happily, and you will know everything.

Very easily.

Because I am it and you are also it.

I know, you don't, but that is the only difference.

I am Truth, you are also Truth.

I am aware of it - 'I know' means 'I am aware', not that 'I know'; nobody can know Truth, remember this.

Nobody can know Truth as some knowledge that can be extracted.

You can be Truth, you cannot know Truth.

But you become aware that 'Hey, I'm not this!'

Whatever you know

you are not, remember this.

About yourself, whatever you know, you are not.

So just make it a distinction, make it a discrimination like this,

division like this: whatever you say 'I know this, I know this, I know this' -

you are not this.

It is something you have. And there is somebody, there is some power inside you which has it, the owner of this,

or the container of this in which it is happening.

So be clear about it.

You cannot know yourself. You can only know what you're not.

Don't try, don't mix these things.

So there is no such thing as
'I know about things', 'I know about myself'.

You only know about things, whatever it is.

All the knowledge you can ever have
will be about something which is not your self essentially.