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The urgency of intersectionality

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    I'd like to try something new.
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    Those of you who are able,
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    please stand up.
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    Okay, so I'm going to name some names.
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    When you hear a name
    that you don't recognize,
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    you can't tell me anything about them,
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    I'd like you to take a seat,
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    and stay seated.
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    The last person standing,
    we're going to see what they know.
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    Okay?
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    (Laughter)
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    All right.
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    Eric Garner.
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    Mike Brown.
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    Tamir Rice.
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    Freddie Gray.
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    So those of you who are still standing,
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    I'd like you to turn around
    and take a look.
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    I'd say half to most of the people
    are still standing.
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    So let's continue.
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    Michelle Cusseaux.
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    Tanisha Anderson.
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    Ara Russer.
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    Meagan Hockaday.
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    So if we look around again, there are
    about four people still standing,
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    and actually I'm not going
    to put you on the spot.
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    I just say that to encourage transparency,
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    so you can be seated.
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    (Laughter)
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    So those of you who recognized
    the first group of names know
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    that these were African-Americans
    who have been killed by the police
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    over the last two and a half years.
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    What you may not know is that
    the other list is also
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    African-Americans who have been killed
    within the last two years.
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    Only one thing distinguishes
    the names that you know
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    from the names that you don't know:
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    gender.
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    So let me first let you know
    that there's nothing at all distinct
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    about this audience
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    that explains the patterns of recognition
    that we've just seen.
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    I've done this exercise
    dozens of times around the country.
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    I've done it to women's
    rights organizations.
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    I've done it with civil rights groups.
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    I've done it with professors.
    I've done it with students.
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    I've done it with psychologists.
    I've done it with sociologists.
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    I've done it even with
    progressive members of Congress.
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    And everywhere, the awareness
    of the level of police violence
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    that black women experience
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    is exceedingly low.
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    Now, it is surprising, isn't it,
    that this would be the case.
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    I mean, there are two issues
    involved here.
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    There's police violence
    against African-Americans,
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    and there's violence against women,
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    two issues that have been
    talked about a lot lately.
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    But when we think about
    who is implicated by these problems,
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    when we think about who is
    victimized by these problems,
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    the names of these black women
    never come to mind.
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    Now, communications experts tell us
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    that when facts do not fit
    with the available frames,
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    people have a difficult time
    incorporating new facts
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    into their way of thinking
    about a problem.
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    These women's names have
    slipped through our consciousness
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    because there are no frames
    for us to see them,
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    no frames for us to remember them,
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    no frames for us to hold them.
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    As a consequence,
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    reporters don't lead with them,
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    policymakers don't think about them,
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    and politicians aren't encouraged
    or demanded that they speak to them.
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    Now you might ask,
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    why does a frame matter?
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    I mean, after all,
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    an issue that affects black people
    and an issue that affects women,
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    wouldn't that necessarily include
    black people who are women
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    and women who are black people?
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    Well, the simple answer is
    that this is a trickle-down approach
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    to social justice, and many times
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    it just doesn't work.
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    Without frames that allow us to see
    how social problems impact
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    all the members of a targeted group,
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    many will fall through the cracks
    of our movements,
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    meant to suffer in virtual isolation.
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    But it doesn't have to be this way.
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    Many years ago, I began to use
    the term "intersectionality"
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    to deal with the fact that many
    of our social justice problems
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    like racism and sexism
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    are often overlapping,
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    creating multiple levels
    of social injustice.
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    Now, the experience that gave rise
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    to intersectionality
    was my chance encounter
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    with a woman named Emma Degraffenreed.
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    Emma Degraffenreed was an
    African-American woman,
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    a working wife, and a mother.
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    I actually read about Emma's story
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    from the pages of a legal opinion
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    written by a judge who had
    dismissed Emma's claim
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    of race and gender discrimination
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    against a local car manufacturing plant.
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    Emma, like so many African-American women,
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    sought better employment
    for her family and for others.
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    She wanted to create a better life
    for her children and for her family.
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    But she applied for a job,
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    and she was not hired,
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    and she believed that she was not hired
    because she was a black woman.
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    Now, the judge in question
    dismissed Emma's suit,
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    and the argument
    for dismissing the suit was
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    that the employer did hire
    African-Americans
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    and the employer hired women.
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    The real problem, though, that the judge
    was not willing to acknowledge
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    was what Emma was actually trying to say,
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    that the African-Americans
    that were hired,
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    usually for industrial jobs,
    maintenance jobs, were all men,
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    and the women that were hired, usually
    for secretarial or front office work,
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    were all white.
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    Only if the court was able to see
    how these policies came together
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    would he be able to see
    the double discrimination
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    that Emma Degraffenreed was facing.
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    But the court refused to allow Emma
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    to put two causes of action together
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    to tell her story
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    because he believed that,
    by allowing her to do that,
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    she would be able to have
    preferential treatment.
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    She would have an advantage
    by having two swings at the bat,
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    when African-American men and white women
    only had one swing at the bat.
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    But of course, neither
    African-American men or white women
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    needed to combine a race
    and gender discrimination claim
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    to tell the story of the discrimination
    they were experiencing.
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    Why wasn't the real unfairness
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    laws refusal to protect
    African-American women
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    simply because their experiences
    weren't exactly the same
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    as white women
    and African-American men?
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    Rather than broadening the frame
    to include African-American women,
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    the court simply tossed their case
    completely out of court.
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    Now, as a student
    of anti-discrimination law,
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    as a feminist,
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    as an anti-racist,
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    I was struck by this case.
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    It felt to me like injustice squared.
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    So first of all,
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    black women weren't allowed
    to work at the plant.
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    Second of all, the court
    doubled down on this exclusion
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    by making it legally inconsequential.
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    And to boot, there was
    no name for this problem.
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    And we all know that,
    where there's no name for a problem,
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    you can't see a problem,
    and when you can't see a problem,
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    you pretty much can't solve it.
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    Many years later, I had come to recognize
    that the problem that Emma was facing
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    was a framing problem.
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    The frame that the court was using
    to see gender discrimination
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    or to see race discrimination was partial
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    and it was distorting.
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    For me, the challenge that I faced was
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    trying to figure out whether there was
    an alternative narrative,
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    a prism that would allow us to see
    Emma's dilemma,
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    a prism that would allow us
    to rescue her from the cracks in the law,
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    that would allow judges to see her story.
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    So it occurred to me, maybe
    a simple analogy to an intersection
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    might allow judges to better see
    Emma's dilemma.
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    So if we think about this intersection,
    the roads to the intersection would be
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    the way that the work force
    was structured by race and by gender,
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    and then the traffic in those roads
    would be the hiring policies
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    and the other practices
    that ran through those roads.
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    Now, because Emma was
    both black and female,
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    she was positioned precisely
    where those roads overlapped,
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    experiencing the simultaneous impact
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    of the company's gender
    and race traffic.
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    The law, the law is like
    that ambulance that shows up
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    and is ready to treat Emma
    only if it can be shown
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    that she was harmed
    on the race road or the gender road
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    but not where those roads intersected.
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    So what do you call being impacted
    by multiple forces
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    and then abandoned to fend for yourself?
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    Intersectionality seemed to do it for me.
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    I would go on to learn that
    African-American women,
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    like other women of color,
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    like other socially marginalized people
    all over the world,
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    were facing all kinds
    of dilemmas and challenges
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    as a consequence of intersectionality,
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    intersections of race and gender,
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    of heterosexism, transphobia,
    xenophobia, ablism,
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    all of these social dynamics come together
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    and create challenges
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    that are sometimes quite unique.
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    But in the same way
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    that intersectionality
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    raised our awareness to the way
    that black women live their lives,
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    it also exposes the tragic circumstances
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    under which African-American women die.
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    Police violence against black women
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    is very real.
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    The level of violence
    that black women face
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    is such that it's not surprising
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    that some of them do not survive
    their encounters with police.
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    Black girls as young as seven,
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    great grandmothers as old as 95,
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    have been killed by the police.
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    They've been killed in their living rooms,
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    in their bedrooms.
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    They've been killed in their cars.
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    They've been killed on the street.
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    They've been killed
    in front of their parents
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    and they've been killed
    in front of their children.
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    They have been shot to death.
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    They have bene stomped to death.
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    They have been suffocated to death.
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    They have been manhandled to death.
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    They have been tasered to death.
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    They've been killed when they've
    called for help.
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    They've been killed when they
    were alone,
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    and they've been killed
    when they were with others.
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    They've been killed shopping while black,
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    driving while black,
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    having a mental disability while black,
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    having a domestic disturbance while black.
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    They've even been killed
    being homeless while black.
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    They've been killed
    talking on the cell phone,
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    laughing with friends,
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    sitting in a car reported as stolen,
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    and making a u-turn
    in front of a White House
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    with an infant strapped
    in the back seat of the car.
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    Why don't we know these stories?
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    Why is it that their lost lives
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    don't generate the same amount
    of media attention and communal outcry
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    as the lost lives
    of their fallen brothers?
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    It's time for a change.
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    So what can we do?
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    In 2014, the African-American
    Policy Forum began to demand
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    that we "say her name"
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    at rallies, at protests,
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    at conferences, at meetings,
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    anywhere and everywhere
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    that state violence against black bodies
    is being discussed.
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    But saying her name is not enough.
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    We have to be willing to do more.
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    We have to be willing to bear witness,
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    to bear witness to the often
    painful realities
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    that we would just rather not confront,
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    the everyday violence and humiliation
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    that many black women have had to face,
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    black women across color,
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    age, gender expression,
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    sexuality, and ability.
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    So we have the opportunity right now,
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    bearing in mind that some of the images
    that I'm about to share with you
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    may be triggering for some,
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    to collectively bear witness
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    to some of this violence.
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    We're going to hear the voice
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    of the phenomenal Abby Dobson,
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    and as we sit with these women,
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    some who have experienced violence
    and some who have not survived them,
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    we have an opportunity to reverse what
    happened at the beginning of this talk,
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    when we could not stand for these women
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    because we did not know their names.
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    So at the end of this clip,
    there's going to be a roll call.
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    Several black women's names will come up.
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    I'd like those of you who are able
    to join us in saying these names
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    as loud as you can,
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    randomly, disorderly.
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    Let's create a cacophony of sound
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    to represent our intention
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    to hold these women up,
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    to sit with them,
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    to bear witness to them,
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    to bring them into the light.
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    Abby Dobson: Say, say her name.
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    Say
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    Say her name
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    Oh
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    Say her name
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    Say, say
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    Say her name
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    Say her name
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    All the names I'll never know
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    Say her name
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    Say her name
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    Kimberlé Crenshaw: So I said
    at the beginning,
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    if we can't see a problem,
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    we can't fix a problem.
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    Together, we've come together
    to bear witness
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    to these women's lost lives,
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    but the time now is to move
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    from mourning and grief
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    to action and transformation.
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    This is something that we can do.
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    It's up to us.
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    Thank you for joining us.
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    (Applause)
Title:
The urgency of intersectionality
Speaker:
Kimberlé Crenshaw
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Video Language:
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Team:
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Duration:
18:49

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