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Directing evolution | Laurie Garrett | TEDxDanubia

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    Ever since I was a small child,
    this has been my hero.
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    This is Charles Darwin, of course.
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    And one of the reasons
    he's always been my outstanding hero
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    is because he looked at the same things
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    that humanity
    had been looking at for centuries,
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    without seeing it.
    And he saw it: evolution.
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    He had no special tools,
    he had no high-tech,
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    it was just insight.
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    A very powerful way of seeing the world.
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    And he created an absolute revolution
    that started with telling humanity,
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    if we had our way, as a species,
    we would destroy this world.
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    Because we will always seek to push
    evolution in our favour as a species.
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    And of course, his 1859 manuscript,
    Origin of the Species,
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    was the greatest revolution in biology
    for all time prior.
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    And its basic thesis was:
    the strong survive;
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    the weak, if they cannot adapt,
    cease to exist and go extinct.
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    And, while there may be controversies,
    he built the monument
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    upon which the three great revolutions
    of biology today are standing:
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    metagenomics, the ability to mass-sequence
    that which we see around the world
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    and know its DNA
    at the absolute nucleotide level;
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    synthetic biology,
    the ability to manipulate
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    that which we now understand;
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    and gain-of-function,
    the ability to give species capacities
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    that nature never gave them
    and probably never would.
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    These three are the big revolutions.
    Let's start with metagenomics.
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    This says:
    I can look at everybody in this room
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    and tell everybody's DNA sequence.
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    I now have that toolkit.
    You have that toolkit.
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    And we can tell the sequence of everything
    in our natural environment.
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    This is so revolutionary,
    it has so completely changed
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    the way we look at the natural world,
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    that it is at least equivalent
    to Charles Darwin's ability
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    to revolutionarily think about the world.
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    We go from looking into the world
    from outside, through the microscope,
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    to actually deciphering it.
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    Because now the toolkit is available
    to rapidly, quickly, and cheaply tell us
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    what is the DNA sequence of everything
    we choose to look at.
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    And now we have the capacity
    to decipher life,
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    in a way we never did before.
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    This is so new and it's
    all in the last decade and less in time.
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    In fact, the speed at which this
    is happening is so tremendous
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    that nobody in the entire scientific
    community can tell you where we stand
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    in any given species analysis
    at any given moment. It's going that fast.
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    And it is changing the entire
    perspective of humanity on the planet,
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    even if you personally
    don't know the biology.
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    And to see
    how fast and rapidly it is changing:
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    our first sequenced human genome took
    15 years and billions of dollars,
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    and then in 2010 we were able to do it for
    10,000 dollars, an entire human genome.
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    That's "passé."
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    Now, it's under a thousand dollars.
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    So this going faster than
    Moore's Law predicted
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    the declining costs
    in computer technology.
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    The synthetic biology, genomics revolution
    is taking the cost of sequencing down
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    to a level that is really incremental.
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    It's spare change.
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    And you can buy your own home sequencer
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    and be your own personal biohacker
    in your kitchen,
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    and sequence your whole genome
    now overnight.
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    And it will have cost you
    practically nothing to do it.
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    Consider what the options are.
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    Well, there's a lot of people doing
    their metagenomic sequencing of pathogens.
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    Let's look at the black death,
    Yersinia pestis, smallpox, chickenpox,
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    the Justinian plague.
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    And in every case, all the sequences are
    posted open-source on the internet.
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    You too can mess with smallpox,
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    you too can mess now
    with your Yersinia pestis.
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    With pretty much any microorganism.
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    1918, an influenza
    that killed 15 million human beings.
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    Whatever you choose to play with,
    it's open-source, it's being sequenced
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    and it's happening at lightning speed.
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    And Darwin reminded us:
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    all this information we will utilize
    only for the good of our own species.
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    And, in fact, the utilization is called
    directed evolution.
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    That means humanity is deciding now
    what is evolution on planet Earth.
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    We are changing the direction of
    the entire course of planetary history.
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    And we're doing it in everything
    from high school labs, all the way
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    up to the most sophisticated multinational
    laboratory systems.
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    Among the choices we're making is,
    which long-extincted species do we,
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    as Homo Sapiens,
    wish to bring back to life?
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    This is not something that somebody else,
    God, or whatever you believe in, decided.
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    This is us, human beings, saying "I want
    woolly mammoths to walk on Earth again."
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    And indeed, already,
    a graduate student of Berkeley
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    brought back a form of plant that had been
    extinct since the Devonian age.
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    And it's back, it's alive,
    it's replicating,
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    it's part of Earth again.
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    Who made that choice?
    This kid.
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    And similarly, because of climate change,
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    we're getting the devastation
    of permafrost zones
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    and deep glaciated zones,
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    and things that had been frozen
    for millenia are coming back to life.
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    And scientists are making choices
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    about which ones
    to resurrect out of the permafrost,
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    like this Pandora virus, which fortunately
    does not infect human beings.
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    But what else lurks
    beneath the permafrost?
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    What's the next thing to come forward?
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    Well, just three years ago,
    our National Academy of Sciences in the US
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    predicted, they thought quite boldly,
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    that soon people would be building
    life up from the DNA,
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    actually creating wholly new living creatures.
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    This was considered outlandish,
    but it's already been done.
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    So that entire report is now
    not only not controversial,
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    it's ancient history.
    Three years ago.
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    What's been done?
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    Well, who you're seeing,
    everybody picks and chooses
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    how to experiment with life.
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    So that now the scientist is directing
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    and is in charge of the evolution
    of everything which he or she is viewing,
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    deciding the pace of the life
    they are observing will take.
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    Manipulating it,
    to see, "What if?", "What if?"
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    This is a revolution.
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    And it's a revolution that gets coupled
    with what's called synthetic biology.
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    Synthetic biology means -
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    you might not know about it,
    but your kids do
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    because they're all doing it
    now in high school.
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    It means that you are actually taking
    the sequences and manipulating them,
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    to produce a previously
    non-existent microorganism.
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    There's a competition for
    high school students and college kids.
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    Last year, sixty countries participated.
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    Every team that participated had to create
    a previously non-exsistent life form.
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    And to prove that it was alive
    and that it could replicate.
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    And these kids
    were inventing all kinds of things.
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    Mostly very very great, wonderful things
    you would say, "That's terrific.
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    I'm so glad you made
    an asbestos eating bacteria."
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    But that is also part of the industry now.
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    And every kind of company
    from agriculture, to cosmetics, to drugs,
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    everybody is now saying,
    "Why wait for miracles to happen?
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    We're going in there and direct life,
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    make it produce what we want it to make,
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    and wow, this is
    a revolution for the industries."
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    Huge profits down the lines,
    tremendous possibilites,
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    just in antibiotics alone.
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    Mining a single species of yeast
    and going through their entire sequence
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    to determine what synthetic biology
    could produce from it
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    could come up with twenty candidates
    [for] new antibiotics.
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    So this means that
    there are tremendous upsides
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    and fantastic incentives associated
    with this entire new sort
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    of synthetic biology
    meets metagenomics era.
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    But I've just had to redo this powerpoint
    right up until this morning
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    because things are breaking so fast.
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    A whole new chromosome,
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    a higher-order organism,
    made from the DNA nucleotides up,
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    it has now self-replicated,
    just published last week.
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    So this is a man-made yeast.
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    It's just one step away
    from the next stage
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    which will be multicellular creatures.
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    But outdone already,
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    just announced this week,
    is man-made new DNA pieces.
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    So instead just ACTG,
    as the base pairs of DNA,
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    there is now X and Y.
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    And they have inserted it into
    man-made organism and it replicated them.
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    So now, welcome to a whole new world.
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    Human beings have decided there shall
    actually be a form of DNA on this planet
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    with creatures in it
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    that can make not 20 amino acids,
    but 172 amino acids,
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    which means a whole new encyclopedia
    of proteins is coming our way.
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    Well, one of the people that really
    got this ball rolling is Craig Venter,
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    one of the greatest biotechnologists
    on Earth.
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    He was part of sequencing
    the original human genome project.
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    In 1999, he was the first person to create
    a previously non-existent organism.
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    Actually, it had existed,
    he just replicated it.
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    A Phage which is a tiny virus
    that infects bacteria.
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    He proved it could be done
    and he moved on,
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    and in 2010, he actually made the first
    wholly synthetized living creature,
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    a yeast, and named it after his institute,
    the J. Craig Venter Institue.
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    It replicated, it's alive,
    it's sitting in freezers,
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    but this is a man-made life form.
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    So this was the first, serious one.
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    This year, he put out a new book
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    describing what he thinks
    is the next stage.
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    He says: "Stop asking whether
    it's a GMO food or whatever.
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    Just ask: 'Is the DNA man-made or not?'
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    If it's man-made
    it's a synthesized organism."
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    It's as simple as that.
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    And now that we know
    that all there is to DNA
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    is the actual sequence of the base pairs.
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    That's computerized software.
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    So now, life boils down to information
    which he says can be transmitted.
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    Where?
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    It can be transmitted to somebody
    else's computer or to a 3D printer.
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    And so he is now describing a new era
    and he is testing it out with NASA,
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    sending a launcher to Mars
    that will scoop up DNA samples
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    and send them back to Earh.
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    And he'll 3D print whatever is on Mars.
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    That means it's time to stop
    thinking about DNA as a mistery
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    and it's time to start thinking about it
    as an enginnering project.
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    Why think of 3D printers
    as being about wooden plastic,
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    when they can be about nucleotides
    including even the new ones, X and Y?
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    And your 3D printer can produce
    whatever you can imagine as a life form.
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    This is our new era.
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    It goes like this:
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    you do your sequencing, it gets
    cheaper every day and faster every day.
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    You send it to a computer anywhere
    in the entire world.
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    You could be anybody
    with any motive doing this.
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    It prints out through a 3D printer
    and bingo! You have a life form.
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    This is an impossible thing to regulate.
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    An impossible thing
    for intelligence forces.
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    And the key goal of synthetic biology
    is to give functions to life forms
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    that they would not
    naturally have evolved -
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    or at least we don't think
    they would have -
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    to try and test the limits
    on what life forms can do
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    is called gain-of-function work.
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    And it's extremely controversial.
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    It was really kicked off by folks
    looking at bird flu, the H5N1 virus,
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    which rarely infects people.
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    People get it from birds.
    It doesn't spread person to person.
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    But when a person does get it,
    60 percent of them die of it.
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    So this is one of the most dangerous
    viruses in the world.
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    And several different scientific teams
    were wondering, but why?
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    Why doesn't it spread between people?
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    And they decided the best way to answer
    was to go ahead and make a form of it,
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    deliberately, in the lab,
    that would spread and kill people.
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    So they made three different gene changes,
    three base pairs of DNA.
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    Two different labs
    independently competing.
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    They ran the altered viruses through
    ferrets, as a substitute for humans,
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    and after a few rounds of passaging,
    the animals indeed got an airborne,
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    mammal-to-mammal transmitting
    super bird flu.
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    Well, this of course was
    highly controversial,
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    but the Chinese said:
    "Ah, big deal!"
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    And the made a 127 new bird flus,
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    5 of which spread
    through the air between guinea pigs,
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    causing lethal infection
    in another substitute for humans,
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    another mammalian species.
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    So, now, we've opened the flood gates,
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    to human-directed evolution
    being about testing for virulence,
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    testing for the trasmissibility
    of organisms,
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    altering them
    to infect different species.
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    We've also opened the door
    to creating factories for pharmaceuticals,
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    and all sorts of likely production.
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    And finally, possibly for using cells,
    man-made cells as substitutes for animals,
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    for testing of drugs
    and of pharmaceuticals and so on.
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    Is this safe?
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    Particularly, when I tell you
    the pace of which this is all going on,
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    and I've described
    to you the explosive nature
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    of this research field.
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    Well, the only control mechanisms
    we have over this are:
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    1969 Biological Weapons Convention,
    the International Health Regulations,
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    which are to be enforced by
    the World Health Organization,
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    which is frankly
    on the edge of bankruptcy.
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    The World Health Organization
    has been running on a huge deficit
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    for 3 years now,
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    laid off 20% of its staff,
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    and shut down its pandemic and
    emergency outbreak response capacity.
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    So, oops!
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    Who is in charge here?
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    Really, being in charge requires
    some kind of global solidarity
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    that we don't really have right now.
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    It requires transparency.
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    Every nation, every group must disclose
    what they're doing and be honest about it.
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    If you have an outbreak,
    you have to report it.
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    You don't cover it up
    like China did with SARS in 2003.
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    We have to figure out
    how to share not only the risks,
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    associated with directed evolution
    and natural outbreaks,
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    but the benefits, the vaccines,
    the drugs, which we don't.
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    And we have to have mutualism,
    like the sharks swimming with pilotfish.
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    The big guys and the little guys
    have to mutually get something,
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    back and forth, from each other,
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    that makes it beneficial
    for them to coexist.
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    Can the big shark countries coexist with
    the little pilotfish countries
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    in a way that is mutualist?
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    This is the only way
    we'll get through this.
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    Well, right now, that's not the case,
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    as this gentleman taught me
    when I visited him in Bangladesh.
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    He is a poultry farmer, sophisticated guy,
    he computerizes all his farms,
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    but his farm got hit by bird flu.
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    And he was so upset by the pain
    and suffering his chickens went through
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    that he willingly went along
    with the goverment mandate,
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    that he slaughtered his entire flock.
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    It's farmers like him that are keeping
    everybody in this room safe.
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    They live in poor countries,
    nobody is compensating them
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    for destroying their infected animals,
    whether it's chickens, ducks, whatever.
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    And it's in laboratories of this caliber
    that most of your safety is being ensured
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    by grossly underpaid people
    that are trying to figure out
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    what lurks in nature.
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    And now, we are going to throw at them.
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    You think lurking in nature is bad,
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    wait, till you'll see what we're going
    to make in rich countries
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    and throw your way as man-made,
    directed evolution organisms.
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    Try being ready for that one,
    boys and girls!
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    It's not mutualism.
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    We don't have the kind of world
    where the shared risk and benefit ratio
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    makes any sense at all.
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    I can assure reasonable amount of safety
    for any of us or the animals we eat.
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    So, what are my predictions?
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    And you can hold me to these the next time
    you see me at some TED meeting.
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    First of all,
    metagenomics is going to on steroids.
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    Costs are going to come down even more,
    the speed of this machines more,
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    people are going to sequence
    entire oceans,
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    they're going to sequence entire forests,
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    we are going to know more about the world
    than we can imagine.
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    We will see larger organisms man-made.
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    I predict that by the end of next year,
    a multicellular organism will be made.
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    Completely synthesized.
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    Something nasty will come out
    of the permafrost or the glacier melts.
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    And it's really just a question
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    of what kind of living
    current species it will affect
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    and what willl science do
    with this nasty organism.
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    We will see the 3D printing of life
    become normalized,
  • 16:57 - 17:00
    become a routine function
    in the pharmaceutical industry,
  • 17:00 - 17:03
    and food industry,
    it will become absolutely normal
  • 17:03 - 17:05
    by the end of this decade.
  • 17:05 - 17:08
    Nobody will believe
    that any of you are even stunned by it.
  • 17:08 - 17:12
    And the benefits of all this
    actually will be very real.
  • 17:12 - 17:15
    We'll be looking at
    a 15 to 20 billion dollar industry,
  • 17:15 - 17:19
    within the next 4 years, 5 years.
  • 17:19 - 17:22
    And many products
    that you will be utterly dependent on
  • 17:22 - 17:25
    will come from
    the synthetic biology industry.
  • 17:25 - 17:31
    But the speed of it and the safety of it
    will be dangerous, mistakes will be made,
  • 17:31 - 17:34
    something will leak from a laboratory,
  • 17:34 - 17:39
    or be deliberately leaked
    by somebody of malevolent intent.
  • 17:39 - 17:42
    And it will only then be
    that a moment comes
  • 17:42 - 17:44
    when the nations come to their senses,
  • 17:44 - 17:47
    and think about
    how to properly regulate this new world.
  • 17:47 - 17:48
    Thank you.
  • 17:48 - 17:50
    (Applause.)
Title:
Directing evolution | Laurie Garrett | TEDxDanubia
Description:

This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Writer and journalist Laurie Garrett examines the consequences of health care and biotechnology. She claims Charles Darwin a true hero, as he is the one recognizing the essence of existence: the evolution. In her speech, she points out how wonderful evolution is in its natural way. Unfortunately, humanity would like to control it.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
18:13

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