The color of love | Elizabeth Hordge-Freeman | TEDxUSF
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0:08 - 0:12All the differences
that biological siblings might have, -
0:13 - 0:18we don't think of racial difference
as being on the top of that list. -
0:18 - 0:22But over the past few years
there's been quite a bit of interest, -
0:22 - 0:23even a media frenzy,
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0:23 - 0:27over couples and families,
around the world, -
0:27 - 0:30who've had children of a different race.
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0:32 - 0:34I'm really interested in these questions.
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0:34 - 0:38I'm intrigued by the presence
of these sibling pairs. -
0:38 - 0:44In many cases, they're biological twins
of a quote unquote "different race." -
0:44 - 0:48I've been collecting photos
and articles about these sibling pairs, -
0:49 - 0:51reading about their lives.
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0:51 - 0:54I've been fascinated about
how the media portrays them -
0:54 - 0:57as feats of humanity, marvels of science.
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0:57 - 1:01All because they have
a different racial appearance. -
1:02 - 1:05But what's even more fascinating
than these photos themselves, -
1:05 - 1:07has been the public reaction to them.
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1:08 - 1:12Some people view these pictures
as evidence that racism is over. -
1:14 - 1:17Others, on the other hand,
feel as though racism isn't over, -
1:17 - 1:22but that racial mixture like this
might lead us to the end of racism. -
1:23 - 1:28Now, as a sociologist,
I disagree with both of those ideas. -
1:28 - 1:30But I think that there are two
important lessons -
1:30 - 1:32that we can learn from these photos.
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1:32 - 1:35Number one is I think
that these sibling pairs -
1:35 - 1:41are the perfect example of how we know
that race is a social construction. -
1:41 - 1:46So sure, these siblings have differences
in skin color, and even in hair texture. -
1:46 - 1:48But these superficial differences
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1:48 - 1:52don't justify the creation
of racial categories. -
1:52 - 1:56There's no biological basis
for this thing that we call "race." -
1:57 - 2:03But even as I say this as a sociologist,
I know that race and racism matter. -
2:03 - 2:05They matter in our society.
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2:05 - 2:06When I say "racism,"
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2:06 - 2:09what I'm talking about
is the unequal distribution -
2:09 - 2:14of economic, political,
and educational resources. -
2:14 - 2:16But I studied race in family.
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2:17 - 2:22I'm particularly interested
in how race can infiltrate families. -
2:23 - 2:24This is the important part;
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2:24 - 2:31how race can lead to unequal distribution
of love and affection in the same family. -
2:32 - 2:34So how parents treat their children,
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2:35 - 2:38how grandparents treat
their grandchildren, -
2:38 - 2:44how siblings interact with one another,
can all be impacted by racism. -
2:45 - 2:49The question that drives my work
is whether or not it might be true -
2:50 - 2:55that what love looks like in families
can depend on what you look like. -
2:57 - 3:01The basic premise of this talk
really challenges what many of us -
3:01 - 3:05fundamentally believe
to be true about families. -
3:05 - 3:10We have a type of collective investment
in believing families are our safe haven. -
3:10 - 3:14This is why we have these phrases:
"Home is where the heart is." -
3:15 - 3:18"There's no place like home,"
I guess Dorothy said it best. -
3:18 - 3:20"Home sweet home."
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3:20 - 3:22All of these phrases really resonate
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3:22 - 3:26with the importance
that we give to families. -
3:26 - 3:29What I'm suggesting today,
and challenging you to do -
3:29 - 3:33is think about how families
are much more complex and contradictory -
3:33 - 3:36than we ever give them credit for being.
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3:36 - 3:38As it relates to race in particular,
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3:38 - 3:42families can certainly protect
family members against racism -
3:43 - 3:46but they might also reproduce racism.
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3:47 - 3:53When emotions are thrown into the mix,
we know that home is where the heart is, -
3:54 - 3:57but home might also be where the hurt is.
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3:59 - 4:04For me and my quest, in terms of studying
questions of race, love, and emotions, -
4:04 - 4:07I was inevitably drawn
to an incredible country, -
4:07 - 4:09and that was Brazil.
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4:09 - 4:13What most of you may not know
about Brazil is that the mix -
4:13 - 4:18between African, indigenous,
and Portuguese populations has given rise -
4:18 - 4:22to some of the most racially diverse
families in the world. -
4:22 - 4:26In Brazil, having a baby
is a bit like playing racial roulette, -
4:27 - 4:31because of the uncertainty
about which racial features might emerge -
4:31 - 4:33in the genetic lottery.
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4:34 - 4:38Even though it's true, that racial mixture
in Brazil is very high, -
4:38 - 4:40racism also still exists,
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4:41 - 4:43whiteness is still overvalued,
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4:43 - 4:46and a person's life chances
and life opportunities -
4:46 - 4:50are still shaped by
their physical proximity to whiteness. -
4:51 - 4:52So what does that mean?
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4:52 - 4:57A person's skin color, hair texture,
and facial features can all come -
4:57 - 4:59to shape their life outcomes.
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4:59 - 5:02But again this takes me back
to that question that I began with. -
5:03 - 5:06We know that racial appearance
matters in society. -
5:07 - 5:09But might it also matter
in people's families? -
5:10 - 5:14How might racial appearance impact
how people are treated -
5:14 - 5:17within their own homes
and with their own family relationships? -
5:18 - 5:22Now you might be thinking, "Okay,
this sounds like an exciting project," -
5:22 - 5:25and Brazil was certainly
the ideal location for this project. -
5:25 - 5:27That was a "no-brainer" for me.
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5:27 - 5:29But there were some barriers
in my research. -
5:29 - 5:31First, I had to learn Portuguese.
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5:31 - 5:36After overcoming that barrier,
I had to deal with my own skepticism -
5:36 - 5:40about whether I would be able
to observe some of the dynamics -
5:40 - 5:41about which I'm talking.
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5:42 - 5:46So in one of my earliest trips to Brazil,
I met a woman by the name of Ana. -
5:47 - 5:49Ana was a local student at the university.
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5:49 - 5:54When I told her that I was interested
in studying race, love, and family, -
5:55 - 5:57she had the following response:
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5:58 - 6:02She said, "Yes, in a family,
people are happy to have children. -
6:03 - 6:08They have the dark one first, but when
the white one comes, everything changes. -
6:09 - 6:13The white one is treated well,
and the dark one is forgotten. -
6:13 - 6:19The black one is punished because
it is said to have "a cara dum escravo." -
6:19 - 6:21"The face of a slave."
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6:22 - 6:25You can imagine that this was
a powerful statement to be made. -
6:26 - 6:29But it also made me feel as though
I wasn't so far in left field -
6:30 - 6:35with this interest that I had in capturing
race, love, and emotion in families. -
6:36 - 6:42In my book, "The Color of Love", I spend
over 16 months working with families, -
6:43 - 6:47interviewing over 100 people
in ten core families in Brazil, -
6:47 - 6:50in order to study these very dynamics,
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6:50 - 6:54in order to study how race, love,
and family function together. -
6:54 - 7:00Sure enough, I found a number of examples
that resonated with what Ana had said -
7:00 - 7:02to me about "the face of a slave."
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7:03 - 7:07So first I met a woman
by the name of Doña Elena. -
7:07 - 7:10Doña Elena, in her interview,
reveals to me -
7:10 - 7:13that when she delivered
a dark-skinned baby, -
7:13 - 7:18and her husband saw the baby
for the first time, his reply was, -
7:18 - 7:22"Where did you get that black baby?
Levá la de volta." -
7:22 - 7:24"Take her back."
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7:25 - 7:27Corina had a similar story.
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7:27 - 7:30She told me about when
she delivered her oldest son. -
7:30 - 7:33Her partner and his mother came to visit.
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7:33 - 7:37They took one look
at the baby's black ears, -
7:37 - 7:41and decided that her partner
would not recognize this child. -
7:41 - 7:45Their assumption was that this child would
eventually grow up to be dark skinned. -
7:45 - 7:49So for that reason they figured
it was not possible for the son -
7:49 - 7:51to have fathered a dark-skinned child.
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7:52 - 7:54Then there's the third example.
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7:55 - 7:57A nine-year-old girl named Hegany.
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7:57 - 8:02She's by far my favorite interviewee
during my time in Brazil. -
8:02 - 8:05She was brilliant, she was boisterous,
she was effervescent. -
8:05 - 8:08She had this type of honest sincerity,
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8:08 - 8:12this type of vulnerability that many of us
tend to lose as we get older. -
8:12 - 8:17Coincidentally, during the time
I'm interviewing Hegany and her family, -
8:17 - 8:20her mother actually
gives birth to a baby girl. -
8:21 - 8:26This baby girl is unanimously viewed
as perfect: white skin, and straight hair. -
8:27 - 8:31I ask Hegany, "What does it feel like
to be a big sister? What is this like?" -
8:32 - 8:34Her response to me was the following,
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8:34 - 8:38"Eu tenho medo de perder
o carinho dos meus pais." -
8:39 - 8:42"I'm afraid of losing
the love of my parents." -
8:43 - 8:46So I asked Hegany,
"Why do you feel this way? -
8:46 - 8:47Why do you think this might happen?"
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8:48 - 8:51She looks back at me,
and she says, "Because of the baby. -
8:51 - 8:56You saw her, didn't you?
She was born clean, with straight hair. -
8:56 - 8:58I'm afraid they will love her more.
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8:58 - 9:00Her hair won't give them as much trouble.
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9:00 - 9:02Everyone is saying it.
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9:02 - 9:06She'll have everything,
and I'll have nothing." -
9:07 - 9:11Hegany covers her face
with her hands and begins to sob. -
9:13 - 9:18What's so devastating about this interview
is that she's only nine years old. -
9:19 - 9:22Yet even at this age,
she understands how racial features -
9:22 - 9:25can impact the way
that her family interacts with her; -
9:25 - 9:28the level of love and affection
that she might receive in the family. -
9:29 - 9:34Over the course of the weeks and months
that I'm in this family, I observe Hegany, -
9:34 - 9:37and she shows herself
to be resentful of the baby. -
9:38 - 9:41She's constantly, almost
obsessively observing the baby. -
9:41 - 9:44Waiting to see changes
in the baby's skin color, -
9:44 - 9:46waiting for it to become darker,
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9:46 - 9:49for the baby's hair
to become a little bit curlier. -
9:49 - 9:51But something else happens.
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9:51 - 9:55I also see Hegany holding
the baby closely, rocking her tightly, -
9:55 - 9:58and taking on the role as a big sister.
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9:58 - 10:03What this suggested to me is that honest
portrayal of families was a partial one. -
10:03 - 10:07That there were numbers of ways
that families could both reproduce -
10:07 - 10:08and resist racism.
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10:09 - 10:13Doña Elena, who I mentioned before,
had a daughter who was dark skinned, -
10:13 - 10:16but she viewed her dark skin
as being evidence that her daughter -
10:16 - 10:18possessed true black beauty.
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10:19 - 10:24Other families developed
alternative anti-racist personas. -
10:24 - 10:27The best example of this is a father
who insists that I call him, -
10:28 - 10:29"Pantera Negra."
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10:29 - 10:30"The Black Panther."
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10:30 - 10:34He names himself after
the Black Panthers in the United States, -
10:34 - 10:36and has a radical political agenda
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10:36 - 10:38that involves raising
the racial consciousness -
10:38 - 10:40of people in his neighborhood.
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10:40 - 10:44He introduces me to his wife,
who he calls the "Panterona," -
10:44 - 10:45"The Big Panther,"
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10:45 - 10:49who also is committed to the same thing,
to raising racial consciousness. -
10:50 - 10:53Now what does all of this,
what do all of these narratives -
10:53 - 10:57tell us about racism
in the United States and Brazil? -
10:57 - 11:02Any effort to eradicate racism
has to leverage the power -
11:02 - 11:04and the influence of families
and communities. -
11:05 - 11:10But not just that, it must also promote
concrete public policies, -
11:10 - 11:15concrete legislative actions that lead
to structural changes in our society. -
11:16 - 11:19I love the example of "Pantera Negra"
because he really shows -
11:19 - 11:21the importance of global linkages.
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11:21 - 11:24In his case, he's building
on the Black Panthers. -
11:24 - 11:28Contemporary social movements now,
like "Black Lives Matter," -
11:28 - 11:31are also exceptionally successful
because they're relevant -
11:31 - 11:33both in the local contexts,
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11:33 - 11:36but also because they're relevant
in the global context. -
11:36 - 11:40The best part about their message
is that it's relevant for white folks -
11:41 - 11:43but it's also relevant for people of color
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11:43 - 11:46who may have internalized
anti-black racism. -
11:47 - 11:49Where do we go from here?
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11:49 - 11:50Frederick Douglas says,
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11:51 - 11:54"Power concedes nothing without a demand."
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11:54 - 11:58I encourage each of you to use
your families and communities -
11:58 - 12:03to work together to articulate demands
that can move us towards forging -
12:03 - 12:09a better future, an anti-racist society
that leads to the eradication of racism -
12:09 - 12:13in the United States, Brazil,
and the rest of the world.
- Title:
- The color of love | Elizabeth Hordge-Freeman | TEDxUSF
- Description:
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Racism and racial inequality have been the topics of discussion particularly present over the last few years in the U.S. Some people suggest that increased racial mixture will lead to the end of racism. By using her personal experience traveling to Brazil, Hordge-Freeman will make an argument that racial mixture does not eliminate racism.
“Dr. Elizabeth Hordge-Freeman is Assistant Professor of Sociology and Latin American Studies at USF. She received her B.A from Cornell University and her M.A./Ph.D. in Sociology from Duke University in 2012. Dr. Hordge-Freeman’s first book, The Color of Love: Racial Features, Stigma, and Socialization in Black Brazilian Families is slated for publication in November 2015. She is motivated by her passion for exposing inequality, and with funding from a Fulbright grant and other sources, she is researching modern slavery and human trafficking in Brazil and the U.S.”
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
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