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A forensic anthropologist who brings closure for the “disappeared"

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    Guatemala is recovering from
    a 36-year armed conflict.
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    A conflict that was fought
    during the Cold War.
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    It was really just
    a small leftist insurgency
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    and a devastating response by the state.
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    What we have as a result
    is 200,000 civilian victims,
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    160,000 of those
    killed in the communities:
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    small children, men, women,
    the elderly even.
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    And then we have
    about 40,000 others, the missing,
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    the ones we're still looking for today.
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    We call them the Desaparecidos.
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    Now, 83 percent of the victims
    are Mayan victims,
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    victims that are the descendants
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    of the original inhabitants of
    Central America.
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    And only about 17 percent are of
    European descent.
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    But the most important thing here is that
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    the very people who are supposed to
    defend us, the police, the military,
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    are the ones that committed
    most of the crimes.
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    Now the families,
    they want information.
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    They want to know what happened.
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    They want the bodies of their loved ones.
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    But most of all,
    what they want is they want you,
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    they want everyone to know
    that their loved ones did nothing wrong.
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    Now, my case was that my father
    received death threats in 1980.
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    And we left.
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    We left Guatemala and we came here.
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    So I grew up in New York,
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    I grew up in Brooklyn as a matter of fact,
    and I went to New Utrecht High School
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    and I graduated from Brooklyn College.
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    The only thing was that
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    I really didn't know what
    was happening in Guatemala.
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    I didn't care for it; it was too painful.
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    But it wasn't till 1995 that I decided
    to do something about it.
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    So I went back.
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    I went back to Guatemala,
    to look for the bodies,
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    to understand what happened
    and to look for part of myself as well.
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    The way we work is that
    we give people information.
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    We talk to the family members
    and we let them choose.
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    We let them decide to tell
    us the stories,
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    to tell us what they saw,
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    to tell us about their loved ones.
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    And even more important,
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    we let them choose to
    give us a piece of themselves.
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    A piece, an essence, of who they are.
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    And that DNA is what we're
    going to compare
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    to the DNA that comes
    from the skeletons.
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    While we're doing that, though,
    we're looking for the bodies.
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    And these are skeletons by now,
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    most of these crimes
    happened 32 years ago.
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    When we find the grave,
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    we take out the dirt and eventually clean
    the body, document it, and exhume it.
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    We literally bring the
    skeleton out of the ground.
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    Once we have those bodies, though,
    we take them back to the city, to our lab,
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    and we begin a process of trying
    to understand mainly two things:
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    One is how people died.
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    So here you see a gunshot
    wound to the back of the head
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    or a machete wound, for example.
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    The other thing we want to understand
    is who they are.
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    Whether it's a baby,
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    or an adult.
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    Whether it's a woman or a man.
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    But when we're done
    with that analysis
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    what we'll do is we'll take a small
    fragment of the bone
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    and we'll extract DNA from it.
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    We'll take that DNA
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    and then we'll compare it with the
    DNA of the families, of course.
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    The best way to explain this to you
    is by showing you two cases.
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    The first is the case
    of the military diary.
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    Now this is a document that was smuggled
    out of somewhere in 1999.
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    And what you see there
    is the state following individuals,
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    people that, like you,
    wanted to change their country,
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    and they jotted everything down.
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    And one of the things that they wrote
    down is when they executed them.
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    Inside that yellow rectangle,
    you see a code,
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    it's a secret code: 300.
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    And then you see a date.
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    The 300 means "executed" and the date
    means when they were executed.
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    Now that's going to come
    into play in a second.
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    What we did is we conducted
    an exhumation in 2003,
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    where we exhumed 220 bodies
    from 53 graves in a military base.
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    Grave 9, though, matched the family
    of Sergio Saul Linares.
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    Now Sergio was a professor
    at the university.
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    He graduted from Iowa State University
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    and went back to Guatemala
    to change his country.
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    And he was captured on
    February 23, 1984.
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    And if you can see there, he was
    executed on March 29, 1984,
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    which was incredible.
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    We had the body, we had the family's
    information and their DNA,
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    and now we have documents
    that told us exactly what happened.
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    But most important is about
    two weeks later,
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    we go another hit, another match
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    from the same grave to Amancio Villatoro.
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    The DNA of that body
    also matched the DNA of that family.
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    And then we noticed
    that he was also in the diary.
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    But it was amazing to see that he was
    also executed on March 29, 1984.
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    So that led us to think, hmm,
    how many bodies were in the grave?
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    Six.
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    So then we said, how many people
    were executed on March 29, 1984?
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    That's right, six as well.
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    So we have Juan de Dios, Hugo,
    Moises and Zoilo.
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    All of them executed on the same date,
    all captured at different locations
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    and at different moments.
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    All put in that grave.
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    The only thing we needed now
    was the DNA of those four families
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    So we went and we looked for them
    and we found them.
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    And we identified those six bodies
    and gave them back to the families.
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    The other case I want to tell you about
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    is that of a military base
    called CREOMPAZ.
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    It actually means, "to believe in peace,"
    but the acronym really means
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    Regional Command Center
    for Peacekeeping Operations.
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    And this is where the Guatemalan military
    trains peacekeepers from other countries,
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    the ones that serve with the U.N.
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    and go to countries
    like Haiti and the Congo.
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    Well, we have testimony that said that
    within this military base,
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    there were bodies, there were graves.
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    So we went in there with a search warrant
    and about two hours after we went in,
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    we found the first of 84 graves,
    a total of 533 bodies.
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    Now, if you think about that,
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    peacekeepers being trained
    on top of bodies.
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    It's very ironic.
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    But the bodies -- face down, most of them,
    hands tied behind their backs,
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    blindfolded, all types of trauma --
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    these were people who were defenseless
    who were being executed.
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    People that 533 families are looking for.
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    So we're going to focus on Grave 15.
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    Grave 15, what we noticed,
    was a grave full of women and children,
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    63 of them.
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    And that immediately made us think,
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    my goodness, where is there
    a case like this?
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    When I got to Guatemala in 1995,
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    I heard of a case of a massacre
    that happened on May 14, 1982,
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    where the army came in, killed the men,
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    and took the women and children
    in helicopters to an unknown location.
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    Well, guess what?
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    The clothing from this grave matched the
    clothing from the region
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    where these people were taken from,
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    where these women and children
    were taken from.
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    So we conducted some DNA analysis,
    and guess what?
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    We identified Martina Rojas
    and Manuel Chen.
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    Both of them disappeared in that case,
    and now we could prove it.
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    We have physical evidence that
    proves that this happened
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    and that those people
    were taken to this base.
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    Now, Manuel Chen was three years old.
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    His mother went to the river to wash
    clothes, and she left him with a neighbor.
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    That's when the army came
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    and that's when he was taken away in
    a helicopter and never seen again
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    until we found him in Grave 15.
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    So now with science, with archaeology,
    with anthropology, with genetics,
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    what we're doing is, we're
    giving a voice to the voiceless.
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    But we're doing more than that.
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    We're actually providing
    evidence for trials,
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    like the genocide trial that happened
    last year in Guatemala
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    where General Ríos Montt was found guilty
    of genocide and sentenced to 80 years.
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    So I came here to tell you today
    that this is happening everywhere --
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    it's happening in Mexico
    right in front of us today --
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    and we can't let it go on anymore.
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    We have to now come together and decide
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    that we're not going to have
    any more missing.
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    So no more missing, guys.
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    Okay? No more missing.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
A forensic anthropologist who brings closure for the “disappeared"
Speaker:
Fredy Peccerelli
Description:

In Guatemala’s 36-year conflict, 200,000 civilians were killed — and more than 40,000 were never identified. Pioneering forensic anthropologist Fredy Peccerelli and his team use DNA, archeology and storytelling to help families find the bodies of their loved ones. It’s a sobering task, but it can bring peace of mind — and sometimes, justice.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
08:40

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