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How to talk to veterans about the war

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    I'm excited to be here to speak about vets,
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    because I didn't join the Army
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    because I wanted to go to war.
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    I didn't join the Army because I had a lust
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    or a need to go overseas and fight.
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    Frankly, I joined the Army because
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    college is really damn expensive,
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    and they were going to help with that,
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    and I joined the Army because
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    it was what I knew,
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    and it was what I knew that I thought I could do well.
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    I didn't come from a military family.
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    I'm not a military brat.
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    No one in my family ever
    had joined the military at all,
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    and how I first got introduced to the military
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    was when I was 13 years old
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    and I got sent away to military school,
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    because my mother had been threatening me
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    with this idea of military school
    ever since I was eight years old.
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    I had some issues when I was coming up,
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    and my mother would always tell me, she's like,
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    "You know, if you don't get this together,
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    I'm going to send you to military school."
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    And I'd look at her, and I'd say, "Mommy,
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    I'll work harder."
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    And then when I was nine years old,
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    she started giving me brochures
    to show me she wasn't playing around,
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    so I'd look at the brochures, and I'm like,
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    "Okay, Mommy, I can see you're
    serious, and I'll work harder."
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    And then when I was 10 and 11,
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    my behavior just kept on getting worse.
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    I was on academic and disciplinary probation
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    before I hit double digits,
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    and I first felt handcuffs on my wrists
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    when I was 11 years old.
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    And so when I was 13 years old,
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    my mother came up to me, and she was like,
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    "I'm not going to do this anymore.
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    I'm going to send you to military school."
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    And I looked at her, and I said, "Mommy,
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    I can see you're upset, and
    I'm going to work harder."
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    And she was like, "No, you're going next week."
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    And that was how I first got introduced
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    to this whole idea of the military,
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    because she thought this was a good idea.
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    I had to disagree with her wholeheartedly
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    when I first showed up there,
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    because literally in the first four days,
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    I had already run away five times from this school.
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    They had these big black gates
    that surrounded the school,
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    and every time they would turn their backs,
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    I would just simply run out of the black gates
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    and take them up on their offer
    that if we don't want to be there,
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    we can leave at any time.
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    So I just said, "Well, if that's the case,
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    then I'd like to leave." (Laughter)
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    And it never worked.
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    And I kept on getting lost.
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    But then eventually,
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    after staying there for a little while,
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    and after the end of that first year
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    at this military school,
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    I realized that I actually was growing up.
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    I realized the things that I enjoyed about this school
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    and the thing that I enjoyed about the structure
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    was something that I'd never found before:
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    the fact that I finally felt like I
    was part of something bigger,
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    part of a team, and it actually mattered to people
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    that I was there,
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    the fact that leadership wasn't just a punchline there,
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    but that it was a real, actually core part
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    of the entire experience.
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    And so when it was time for me to actually
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    finish up high school,
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    I started thinking about what I wanted to do,
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    and just like probably most students,
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    had no idea what that meant or what I wanted to do.
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    And I thought about the people who I
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    respected and admired.
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    I thought about a lot of the people,
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    in particular a lot of the men, in my life
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    who I looked up to.
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    They all happened to wear the uniform
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    of the United States of America,
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    so for me, the question and the answer
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    really became pretty easy.
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    The question of what I wanted to do
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    was filled in very quickly with saying,
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    I guess I'll be an Army officer.
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    So the Army then went through this process
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    and they trained me up,
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    and when I say I didn't join the Army
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    because I wanted to go to war,
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    the truth is, I joined in 1996.
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    There really wasn't a whole lot going on.
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    I didn't ever feel like I was in danger.
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    When I went to my mom,
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    I first joined the Army when I was 17 years old,
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    so I literally needed parental permission
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    to join the Army,
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    so I kind of gave the paperwork to my mom,
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    and she just assumed it was
    kind of like military school.
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    She was like, "Well, it was good for him before,
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    so I guess I'll just let him keep doing it,"
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    having no idea that the
    paperwork that she was signing
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    was actually signing her son up
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    to become an Army officer.
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    And I went through the process,
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    and again the whole time still just thinking,
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    this is great, maybe I'll serve on a weekend,
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    or two weeks during the year, do drill,
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    and then a couple years after I signed up,
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    a couple years after my mother signed those papers,
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    the whole world changed.
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    And after 9/11, there was an entirely new context
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    about the occupation that I chose.
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    When I first joined, I never joined to fight,
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    but now that I was in,
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    this is exactly what was now going to happen.
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    And I thought about so much about the soldiers
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    who I eventually had to end up leading.
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    I remember when we first, right after 9/11,
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    three weeks after 9/11, I was
    on a plane heading overseas,
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    but I wasn't heading overseas with the military,
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    I was heading overseas because I got a scholarship
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    to go overseas.
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    I received the scholarship to go overseas
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    and to go study and live overseas,
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    and I was living in England and that was interesting,
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    but at the same time, the same people who
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    I was training with,
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    the same soldiers that I went
    through all my training with,
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    and we prepared for war,
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    they were now actually heading over to it.
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    They were now about to find themselves
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    in the middle of places the fact is
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    the vast majority of people,
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    the vast majority of us as we were training,
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    couldn't even point out on a map.
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    I spent a couple years finishing graduate school,
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    and the whole entire time while I'm sitting there
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    in buildings at Oxford
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    that were literally built hundreds of years
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    before the United States was even founded,
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    and I'm sitting there talking to dons
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    about the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand,
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    and how that influenced the start of World War I,
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    where the entire time my heart and my head
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    were on my soldiers
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    who were now throwing on Kevlars
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    and grabbing their flak vests
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    and figuring out how exactly do I change around
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    or how exactly do I clean a machine gun
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    in the darkness.
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    That was the new reality.
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    By the time I finished that up and I rejoined
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    my military unit and we were getting
    ready to deploy to Afghanistan,
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    there were soldiers in my unit who were now
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    on their second and third deployments
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    before I even had my first.
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    I remember walking out with
    my unit for the first time,
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    and when you join the Army
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    and you go through a combat tour,
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    everyone looks at your shoulder,
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    because on your shoulder is your combat patch.
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    And so immediately as you meet people,
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    you shake their hand,
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    and then your eyes go to their shoulder,
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    because you want to see where did they serve,
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    or what unit did they serve with?
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    And I was the only person walking around
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    with a bare shoulder,
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    and it burned every time someone stared at it.
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    But you get a chance to talk to your soldiers,
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    and you ask them why did they sign up.
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    I signed up because college was expensive.
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    A lot of my soldiers signed up
    for completely different reasons.
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    They signed up because of a sense of obligation.
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    They signed up because they were angry
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    and they wanted to do something about it.
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    They signed up because
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    their family said this was important.
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    They signed up because they
    wanted some form of revenge.
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    They signed for a whole
    collection of different reasons.
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    And now we all found ourselves overseas
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    fighting in these conflicts.
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    And what was amazing to me was that I
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    very naively started hearing this statement
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    that I never fully understood,
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    because right after 9/11, you start hearing this idea
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    where people come up to you and they say,
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    "Well, thank you for your service."
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    And I just kind of followed in and started saying
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    the same things to all my soldiers.
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    This is even before I deployed.
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    But I really had no idea what that even meant.
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    I just said it because it sounded right.
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    I said it because it sounded like the right thing to say
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    to people who had served overseas.
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    "Thank you for your service."
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    But I had no idea what the context was
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    or what that even,
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    what it even meant to the people who heard it.
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    When I first came back from Afghanistan,
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    I thought that if you make it back from conflict,
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    then the dangers were all over.
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    I thought that if you made it
    back from a conflict zone
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    that somehow you could kind of
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    wipe the sweat off your brow and say,
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    "Whew, I'm glad I dodged that one,"
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    without understanding that for so many people,
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    as they come back home,
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    the war keeps going.
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    It keeps playing out in all of our minds.
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    It plays out in all of our memories.
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    It plays out in all of our emotions.
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    Please forgive us
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    if we don't like being in big crowds.
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    Please forgive us
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    when we spend one week in a place
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    that has 100 percent light discipline,
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    because you're not allowed to
    walk around with white lights,
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    because if anything has a white light,
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    it can be seen from miles away,
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    versus if you use little green
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    or little blue lights,
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    they cannot be seen from far away.
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    So please forgive us if out of nowhere,
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    we go from having 100 percent light discipline
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    to then a week later being back
    in the middle of Times Square,
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    and we have a difficult time adjusting to that.
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    Please forgive us
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    when you transition back to a family
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    who has completely been maneuvering without you,
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    and now when you come back, it's not that easy
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    to fall back into a sense of normality,
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    because the whole normal has changed.
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    I remember when I came back,
    I wanted to talk to people.
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    I wanted people to ask me about my experiences.
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    I wanted people to come up to me and tell me,
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    "What did you do?"
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    I wanted people to come up to me and tell me,
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    "What was it like? What was the food like?
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    What was the experience like? How are you doing?"
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    And the only questions I got from people was,
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    "Did you shoot anybody?"
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    And those were the ones who were even curious
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    enough to say anything.
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    Because sometimes there's this fear
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    and there's this apprehension that if I say anything,
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    I'm afraid I'll offend,
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    or I'm afraid I'll trigger something,
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    so the common default is just saying nothing.
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    The problem with that
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    is then it feels like your service
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    was not even acknowledged,
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    like no one even cared.
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    "Thank you for your service,"
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    and we move on.
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    What I wanted to better understand
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    was what's behind that,
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    and why "thank you for your service" isn't enough.
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    The fact is, we have literally
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    2.6 million men and women
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    who are veterans of Iraq or Afghanistan
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    who are all amongst us.
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    Sometimes we know who they are,
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    sometimes we don't,
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    but there is that feeling, the shared experience,
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    the shared bond
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    where we know that that experience
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    and that chapter of our life,
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    while it might be closed,
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    it's still not over.
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    We think about "thank you for your service,"
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    and people say, "So what does 'thank
    you for your service' mean to you?"
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    Well, "Thank you for your service" means to me,
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    it means acknowledging our stories,
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    asking us who we are,
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    understanding the strength
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    that so many people, so many
    people who we serve with, have,
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    and why that service means so much.
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    "Thank you for your service"
    means acknowledging the fact
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    that just because we've now come home
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    and we've taken off the uniform
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    does not mean our larger service to this country
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    is somehow over.
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    The fact is, there's still a tremendous amount
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    that can be offered and can be given.
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    When I look at people
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    like our friend Taylor Urruela,
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    who in Iraq loses his leg,
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    had two big dreams in his life.
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    One was to be a soldier. The other
    was to be a baseball player.
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    He loses his leg in Iraq.
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    He comes back
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    and instead of deciding that,
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    well, now since I've lost my
    leg, that second dream is over,
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    he decides that he still has that
    dream of playing baseball,
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    and he starts this group called VETSports,
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    which now works with veterans all over the country
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    and uses sports as a way of healing.
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    People like Tammy Duckworth,
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    who was a helicopter pilot
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    and with the helicopter that she was flying,
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    you need to use both your hands
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    and also your legs to steer,
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    and her helicopter gets hit,
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    and she's trying to steer the chopper,
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    but the chopper's not reacting
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    to her instructions and to her commands.
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    She's trying to land the chopper safely,
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    but the chopper doesn't land safely,
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    and the reason it's not landing safely
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    is because it's not responding to the
    commands that her legs are giving
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    because her legs were blown off.
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    She barely survives.
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    Medics come and they save her life,
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    but then as she's doing her
    recuperation back at home,
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    she realizes that, "My job's still not done."
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    And now she uses her voice
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    as a Congresswoman from Illinois
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    to fight and advocate for a collection of issues
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    to include veterans issues.
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    We signed up because
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    we love this country we represent.
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    We signed up because
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    we believe in the idea and we believe in the people
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    to our left and to our right.
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    And the only thing we then ask is that
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    "thank you for your service"
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    needs to be more than just a quote break,
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    that "thank you for your service" means
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    honestly digging in
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    to the people who have stepped up
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    simply because they were asked to,
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    and what that means for us not just now,
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    not just during combat operations,
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    but long after the last vehicle has left
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    and after the last shot has been taken.
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    These are the people who I served with,
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    and these are the people who I honor.
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    So thank you for your service.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How to talk to veterans about the war
Speaker:
Wes Moore
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Video Language:
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Team:
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Duration:
14:27

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