Why city flags may be the worst-designed thing you've never noticed
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0:01 - 0:03I know what you're thinking:
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0:03 - 0:05"Why does that guy get to sit down?"
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0:06 - 0:09That's because this is radio.
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0:09 - 0:12(Music)
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0:13 - 0:15I tell radio stories about design,
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0:15 - 0:17and I report on all kinds of stories:
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0:17 - 0:22buildings and toothbrushes,
mascots and wayfinding and fonts. -
0:22 - 0:26My mission is to get people to engage
with the design that they care about -
0:26 - 0:29so they begin to pay attention
to all forms of design. -
0:29 - 0:34When you decode the world
with design intent in mind, -
0:34 - 0:36the world becomes kind of magical.
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0:36 - 0:38Instead of seeing the broken things,
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0:38 - 0:41you see all the little bits of genius
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0:41 - 0:45that anonymous designers have sweated over
to make our lives better. -
0:45 - 0:47And that's essentially
the definition of design: -
0:48 - 0:51making life better and providing joy.
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0:51 - 0:54And few things give me greater joy
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0:54 - 0:56than a well-designed flag.
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0:57 - 0:58(Laughter)
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0:58 - 0:59Yeah!
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0:59 - 1:01(Applause)
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1:01 - 1:04Happy 50th anniversary
on your flag, Canada. -
1:04 - 1:06It is beautiful, gold standard.
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1:06 - 1:08Love it.
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1:08 - 1:10I'm kind of obsessed with flags.
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1:10 - 1:12Sometimes I bring up the topic of flags,
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1:12 - 1:16and people are like,
"I don't care about flags," -
1:16 - 1:19and then we start talking
about flags, and trust me, -
1:19 - 1:22100 percent of people care about flags.
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1:22 - 1:25There's just something about them
that works on our emotions. -
1:25 - 1:29My family wrapped my Christmas presents
as flags this year, -
1:29 - 1:36including the blue gift bag
that's dressed up as the flag of Scotland. -
1:36 - 1:38I put this picture online,
and sure enough, -
1:39 - 1:41within the first few minutes,
someone left a comment that said, -
1:41 - 1:45"You can take that Scottish Saltire
and shove it up your ass." -
1:45 - 1:47(Laughter)
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1:47 - 1:49See, people are passionate
about flags, you know? -
1:49 - 1:50That's the way it is.
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1:50 - 1:52What I love about flags
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1:52 - 1:54is that once you understand
the design of flags, -
1:54 - 1:57what makes a good flag,
what makes a bad flag, -
1:57 - 1:59you can understand
the design of almost anything. -
1:59 - 2:01So what I'm going to do here is,
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2:01 - 2:05I cracked open an episode
of my radio show, -
2:05 - 2:08"99% Invisible," and I'm going
to reconstruct it here on stage, -
2:08 - 2:10so when I press a button over here --
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2:10 - 2:12Voice: S for Sound --
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2:12 - 2:14Roman Mars: It's going to make a sound,
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2:14 - 2:17and so whenever you hear a sound
or a voice or a piece of music, -
2:17 - 2:19it's because I pressed a button.
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2:19 - 2:21Voice: Sound.
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2:21 - 2:24RM: All right, got it? Here we go.
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2:25 - 2:26Three, two.
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2:28 - 2:32This is 99% Invisible. I'm Roman Mars.
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2:35 - 2:37(Music)
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2:37 - 2:40Narrator: The five basic
principles of flag design. -
2:40 - 2:43Roman Mars: According to the North
American Vexillological Association. -
2:43 - 2:45Vexillological.
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2:45 - 2:48Ted Kaye: Vexillology
is the study of flags. -
2:48 - 2:50RM: It's that extra "lol"
that makes it sound weird. -
2:50 - 2:52Narrator: Number one, keep it simple.
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2:52 - 2:56The flag should be so simple
that a child can draw it from memory. -
2:56 - 2:58RM: Before I moved to Chicago in 2005,
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2:58 - 3:00I didn't even know cities
had their own flags. -
3:00 - 3:02TK: Most larger cities do have flags.
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3:02 - 3:05RM: Well, I didn't know that,
that's Ted Kaye, by the way. -
3:05 - 3:06TK: Hello.
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3:06 - 3:08RM: He's a flag expert,
he's a totally awesome guy. -
3:08 - 3:12TK: I'm Ted Kaye, I have edited
a scholarly journal on flag studies, -
3:12 - 3:15and I am currently involved
with the Portland Flag Association -
3:15 - 3:18and the North American
Vexillological Association. -
3:18 - 3:21RM: Ted literally wrote
the book on flag design. -
3:21 - 3:23Narrator: "Good Flag, Bad Flag."
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3:23 - 3:25RM: It's more of a pamphlet, really,
it's about 16 pages. -
3:25 - 3:29TK: Yes, it's called "Good Flag, Bad Flag:
How to Design a Great Flag." -
3:29 - 3:32RM: And that first city flag
I discovered in Chicago -
3:32 - 3:33is a beaut:
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3:33 - 3:37white field, two horizontal blue stripes,
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3:37 - 3:40and four six-pointed red stars
down the middle. -
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3:41 - 3:44Narrator: Number two,
use meaningful symbolism. -
3:44 - 3:47TK: The blue stripes represent
the water, the river and the lake. -
3:47 - 3:49Narrator: The flag's images,
colors or pattern -
3:49 - 3:51should relate to what it symbolizes.
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3:51 - 3:54TK: The red stars represent
significant events in Chicago's history. -
3:54 - 3:58RM: Namely, the founding of Fort Dearborn
on the future site of Chicago, -
3:58 - 4:01the Great Chicago Fire,
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4:01 - 4:04the World Columbian Exposition,
which everyone remembers -
4:04 - 4:06because of the White City,
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4:06 - 4:10and the Century of Progress Exposition,
which no one remembers at all. -
4:10 - 4:13Narrator: Number three,
use two to three basic colors. -
4:13 - 4:16TK: The basic rule for colors
is to use two to three colors -
4:16 - 4:21from the standard color set:
red, white, blue, green, yellow and black. -
4:22 - 4:24RM: The design of the Chicago flag
has complete buy-in -
4:24 - 4:26with an entire cross-section of the city.
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4:26 - 4:28It is everywhere;
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4:28 - 4:30every municipal building flies the flag.
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4:30 - 4:33Whet Moser: There's probably
at least one store on every block -
4:33 - 4:36near where I work that sells
some sort of Chicago flag paraphernalia. -
4:36 - 4:39RM: That's Whet Moser
from Chicago magazine. -
4:39 - 4:42WM: Today, just for example,
I went to get a haircut, -
4:42 - 4:44and when I sat down in the barber's chair,
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4:44 - 4:49there was a Chicago flag on the box
that the barber kept all his tools in, -
4:49 - 4:52and then in the mirror, there was
a Chicago flag on the wall behind me. -
4:52 - 4:57When I left, a guy passed me who had
a Chicago flag badge on his backpack. -
4:57 - 4:59RM: It's adaptable and remixable.
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4:59 - 5:03The six-pointed stars in particular
show up in all kinds of places. -
5:03 - 5:07WM: The coffee I bought the other day
had a Chicago star on it. -
5:07 - 5:10RM: It's a distinct symbol
of Chicago pride. -
5:10 - 5:13TK: When a police officer
or a firefighter dies in Chicago, -
5:13 - 5:17often it's not the flag
of the United States on his casket. -
5:17 - 5:20It can be the flag of the city of Chicago.
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5:20 - 5:25That's how deeply the flag has gotten
into the civic imagery of Chicago. -
5:26 - 5:29RM: And it isn't just that people
love Chicago and therefore love the flag. -
5:29 - 5:35I also think that people love Chicago more
because the flag is so cool. -
5:35 - 5:40TK: A positive feedback loop there
between great symbolism and civic pride. -
5:40 - 5:44RM: OK, so when I moved back
to San Francisco in 2008, -
5:44 - 5:45I researched its flag,
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5:45 - 5:50because I had never seen it
in the previous eight years I lived there. -
5:50 - 5:53And I found it, I am sorry to say,
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5:53 - 5:55sadly lacking.
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5:55 - 5:58(Laughter)
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5:58 - 5:59I know.
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6:01 - 6:02It hurts me, too.
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6:02 - 6:05(Laughter)
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6:05 - 6:06TK: Well, let me start from the top.
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6:06 - 6:08Narrator: Number one, keep it simple.
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6:08 - 6:09TK: Keeping it simple.
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6:09 - 6:13Narrator: The flag should be so simple
that a child can draw it from memory. -
6:13 - 6:15TK: It's a relatively complex flag.
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6:15 - 6:16RM: OK, here we go, OK.
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6:16 - 6:19The main component
of the San Francisco flag is a phoenix -
6:19 - 6:21representing the city
rising from the ashes -
6:21 - 6:24after the devastating fires of the 1850s.
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6:24 - 6:27TK: A powerful symbol for San Francisco.
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6:27 - 6:29RM: I still don't really dig the phoenix.
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6:29 - 6:32Design-wise, it manages
to both be too crude -
6:32 - 6:34and have too many details
at the same time, -
6:34 - 6:36which if you were trying for that,
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6:36 - 6:38you wouldn't be able to do it,
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6:38 - 6:40and it just looks bad at a distance,
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6:40 - 6:44but having deep meaning
puts that element in the plus column. -
6:44 - 6:47Behind the phoenix,
the background is mostly white, -
6:47 - 6:50and then it has a substantial
gold border around it. -
6:50 - 6:53TK: Which is a very attractive
design element. -
6:53 - 6:55RM: I think it's OK, but --
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6:55 - 6:56(Laughter)
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6:56 - 6:59here come the big no-nos of flag design.
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6:59 - 7:02Narrator: Number four,
no lettering or seals. -
7:02 - 7:04Never use writing of any kind.
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7:04 - 7:06RM: Underneath the phoenix,
there's a motto on a ribbon -
7:07 - 7:09that translates to
"Gold in peace, iron in war," -
7:10 - 7:12plus -- and this is the big problem --
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7:12 - 7:15it says San Francisco across the bottom.
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7:15 - 7:19TK: If you need to write the name
of what you're representing on your flag, -
7:19 - 7:21your symbolism has failed.
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7:21 - 7:23(Laughter)
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7:23 - 7:25(Applause)
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7:25 - 7:29RM: The United States flag
doesn't say "USA" across the front. -
7:29 - 7:32In fact, country flags,
they tend to behave. -
7:32 - 7:35Like, hats off to South Africa
and Turkey and Israel -
7:35 - 7:37and Somalia and Japan and Gambia.
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7:37 - 7:40There's a bunch
of really great country flags, -
7:40 - 7:44but they obey good design principles
because the stakes are high. -
7:44 - 7:46They're on the international stage.
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7:46 - 7:50But city, state and regional flags
are another story. -
7:51 - 7:53(Laughter)
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7:53 - 7:56There is a scourge of bad flags --
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7:56 - 7:57(Laughter)
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7:57 - 7:58and they must be stopped.
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7:58 - 7:59(Laughter)
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8:00 - 8:01(Applause)
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8:01 - 8:04That is the truth and that is the dare.
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8:04 - 8:08The first step is to recognize
that we have a problem. -
8:08 - 8:11(Laughter)
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8:13 - 8:15A lot of people tend to think
that good design -
8:15 - 8:17is just a matter of taste,
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8:17 - 8:20and quite honestly,
sometimes it is, actually, -
8:20 - 8:22but sometimes it isn't, all right?
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8:22 - 8:23(Laughter)
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8:24 - 8:27Here's the full list of NAVA
flag design principles. -
8:28 - 8:31Narrator: The five
basic principles of flag design. -
8:31 - 8:34Narrator: Number one.
TK: Keep it simple. -
8:34 - 8:36Narrator: Number two.
TK: Use meaningful symbolism. -
8:36 - 8:39Narrator: Number three.
TK: Use two to three basic colors. -
8:39 - 8:41Narrator: Number four.
TK: No lettering or seals. -
8:41 - 8:43Narrator: Never use writing of any kind.
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8:43 - 8:45TK: Because you can't
read that at a distance. -
8:45 - 8:48Narrator: Number five.
TK: And be distinctive. -
8:48 - 8:50RM: All the best flags tend
to stick to these principles. -
8:50 - 8:53And like I said before,
most country flags are OK. -
8:53 - 8:54But here's the thing:
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8:54 - 8:57if you showed this list of principles
to any designer of almost anything, -
8:57 - 9:00they would say these principles --
simplicity, deep meaning, -
9:00 - 9:03having few colors
or being thoughtful about colors, -
9:03 - 9:05uniqueness, don't have
writing you can't read -- -
9:05 - 9:08all those principles apply to them, too.
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9:08 - 9:13But sadly, good design principles
are rarely invoked in US city flags. -
9:13 - 9:15Our biggest problem
seems to be that fourth one. -
9:15 - 9:19We just can't stop ourselves
from putting our names on our flags, -
9:20 - 9:23or little municipal seals
with tiny writing on them. -
9:23 - 9:25Here's the thing about municipal seals:
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9:25 - 9:28They were designed
to be on pieces of paper -
9:28 - 9:29where you can read them,
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9:29 - 9:33not on flags 100 feet away
flapping in the breeze. -
9:33 - 9:34So here's a bunch of flags again.
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9:34 - 9:38Vexillologists call these SOBs:
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9:38 - 9:39Seals on a bedsheet --
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9:39 - 9:40(Laughter)
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9:40 - 9:43and if you can't tell
what city they go to, -
9:43 - 9:45yeah, that's exactly the problem,
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9:45 - 9:48except for Anaheim,
apparently, they fixed it. -
9:48 - 9:50(Laughter)
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9:51 - 9:54These flags are everywhere in the US.
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9:54 - 9:56The European equivalent
of the municipal seal -
9:56 - 9:58is the city coat of arms ...
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9:58 - 10:02and this is where we can learn
a lesson for how to do things right. -
10:02 - 10:04So this is the city
coat of arms of Amsterdam. -
10:04 - 10:06Now, if this were a United States city,
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10:06 - 10:08the flag would probably look like this.
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10:08 - 10:09You know, yeah.
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10:09 - 10:10(Laughter)
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10:11 - 10:13But instead, the flag of Amsterdam
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10:13 - 10:14looks like this.
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10:16 - 10:18Rather than plopping
the whole coat of arms -
10:18 - 10:21on a solid background and writing
"Amsterdam" below it, -
10:21 - 10:24they just take the key elements
of the escutcheon, the shield, -
10:24 - 10:28and they turn it into the most
badass city flag in the world. -
10:28 - 10:29(Laughter)
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10:29 - 10:34(Applause)
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10:34 - 10:36And because it's so badass,
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10:36 - 10:39those flags and crosses
are found throughout Amsterdam, -
10:39 - 10:41just like Chicago, they're used.
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10:42 - 10:45Even though seal-on-a-bedsheet flags
are particularly painful -
10:45 - 10:46and offensive to me,
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10:46 - 10:49nothing can quite prepare you
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10:49 - 10:52for one of the biggest train wrecks
in vexillological history. -
10:52 - 10:53(Laughter)
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10:53 - 10:54Are you ready?
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10:55 - 10:58It's the flag of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
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10:58 - 11:05(Laughter)
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11:05 - 11:09I mean, it's distinctive,
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11:09 - 11:11I'll give them that.
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11:12 - 11:15Steve Kodis: It was adopted in 1955.
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11:15 - 11:16RM: The city ran a contest
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11:16 - 11:19and gathered a bunch of submissions
with all kinds of designs. -
11:20 - 11:24SK: And an alderman
by the name of Fred Steffan -
11:24 - 11:30cobbled together parts of the submissions
to make what is now the Milwaukee flag. -
11:31 - 11:33RM: It's a kitchen sink flag.
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11:33 - 11:36There's a gigantic gear
representing industry, -
11:36 - 11:38there's a ship recognizing the port,
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11:38 - 11:40a giant stalk of wheat
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11:40 - 11:42paying homage to the brewing industry.
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11:42 - 11:43It's a hot mess,
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11:44 - 11:48and Steve Kodis, a graphic designer
from Milwaukee, wants to change it. -
11:48 - 11:50SK: It's really awful.
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11:50 - 11:53It's a misstep on the city's behalf,
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11:53 - 11:55to say the least.
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11:56 - 11:58RM: But what puts
the Milwaukee flag over the top, -
11:58 - 12:00almost to the point of self-parody,
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12:00 - 12:06is on it is a picture of the Civil War
battle flag of the Milwaukee regiment. -
12:06 - 12:08SK: So that's the final element in it
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12:08 - 12:11that just makes it
that much more ridiculous, -
12:11 - 12:16that there is a flag design
within the Milwaukee flag. -
12:16 - 12:18RM: On the flag. Yeah. Yeah.
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12:18 - 12:19(Laughter)
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12:19 - 12:20Yeah.
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12:20 - 12:22(Music)
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12:22 - 12:24Now, Milwaukee is a fantastic city.
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12:24 - 12:27I've been there, I love it.
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12:27 - 12:29The most depressing part
of this flag, though, -
12:29 - 12:32is that there have been
two major redesign contests. -
12:32 - 12:34The last one was held in 2001.
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12:34 - 12:37105 entries were received.
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12:37 - 12:40TK: But in the end, the members
of the Milwaukee Arts Board -
12:40 - 12:43decided that none of the new entries
were worthy of flying over the city. -
12:43 - 12:45RM: They couldn't agree
to change that thing! -
12:46 - 12:47(Laughter)
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12:47 - 12:49That's discouraging enough
to make you think -
12:49 - 12:52that good design and democracy
just simply do not go together. -
12:52 - 12:53(Laughter)
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12:53 - 12:56But Steve Kotas is going
to try one more time -
12:56 - 12:58to redesign the Milwaukee flag.
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12:59 - 13:01SK: I believe Milwaukee is a great city.
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13:01 - 13:04Every great city deserves a great flag.
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13:04 - 13:07RM: Steve isn't ready
to reveal his design yet. -
13:07 - 13:09One of the things about
proposing one of these things -
13:09 - 13:11is you have to get people on board,
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13:11 - 13:12and then you reveal your design.
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13:12 - 13:14But here's the trick:
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13:14 - 13:15If you want to design a great flag,
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13:15 - 13:19a kick-ass flag like Chicago's or DC's,
which also has a great flag, -
13:19 - 13:22start by drawing
a one-by-one-and-a-half-inch rectangle -
13:22 - 13:24on a piece of paper.
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13:24 - 13:26Your design has to fit
within that tiny rectangle. -
13:26 - 13:27Here's why.
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13:27 - 13:32TK: A three-by-five-foot flag
on a pole 100 feet away -
13:32 - 13:39looks about the same size
as a one-by-one-and-a-half-inch rectangle -
13:39 - 13:42seen about 15 inches from your eye.
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13:42 - 13:46You'd be surprised by how compelling
and simple the design can be -
13:46 - 13:48when you hold yourself to that limitation.
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13:49 - 13:52RM: Meanwhile, back in San Francisco.
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13:52 - 13:54Is there anything we can do?
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13:55 - 13:59TK: I like to say that in every bad flag
there's a good flag trying to get out. -
13:59 - 14:01The way to make
San Francisco's flag a good flag -
14:01 - 14:05is to take the motto off
because you can't read that at a distance. -
14:05 - 14:06Take the name off,
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14:06 - 14:10and the border might even be made thicker,
so it's more a part of the flag. -
14:10 - 14:12And I would simply take the phoenix
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14:12 - 14:16and make it a great big element
in the middle of the flag. -
14:16 - 14:19RM: But the current phoenix,
that's got to go. -
14:19 - 14:22TK: I would simplify
or stylize the phoenix. -
14:22 - 14:24Depict a big, wide-winged bird
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14:24 - 14:26coming out of flames.
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14:26 - 14:28Emphasize those flames.
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14:28 - 14:31RM: So this San Francisco flag
was designed by Frank Chimero -
14:31 - 14:32based on Ted Kaye's suggestions.
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14:32 - 14:35I don't know what he would do
if we was completely unfettered -
14:35 - 14:37and didn't follow those guidelines.
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14:37 - 14:40Fans of my radio show and podcast,
heard me complain about bad flags. -
14:40 - 14:42They've sent me other suggested designs.
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14:42 - 14:44This one's by Neil Mussett.
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14:44 - 14:47Both are so much better.
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14:47 - 14:48(Laughter)
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14:48 - 14:50And I think if they were adopted,
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14:50 - 14:53I would see them around the city.
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14:53 - 14:56In my crusade to make
flags of the world more beautiful, -
14:56 - 14:58many listeners have taken it
upon themselves -
14:58 - 15:01to redesign their flags
and look into the feasibility -
15:01 - 15:03of getting them officially adopted.
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15:03 - 15:04(Music)
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15:04 - 15:07If you see your city flag and like it,
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15:07 - 15:08fly it,
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15:08 - 15:10even if it violates a design rule or two.
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15:10 - 15:12I don't care.
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15:12 - 15:14But if you don't see your city flag,
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15:14 - 15:17maybe it doesn't exist, but maybe it does,
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15:17 - 15:18and it just sucks,
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15:18 - 15:23and I dare you to join the effort
to try to change that. -
15:24 - 15:26As we move more and more into cities,
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15:26 - 15:31the city flag will become
not just a symbol of that city as a place, -
15:31 - 15:38but also, it could become a symbol
of how that city considers design itself, -
15:38 - 15:41especially today, as the populace
is becoming more design-aware. -
15:41 - 15:44And I think design awareness
is at an all-time high. -
15:44 - 15:48A well-designed flag could be seen
as an indicator of how a city -
15:48 - 15:51considers all of its design systems:
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15:51 - 15:52its public transit,
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15:52 - 15:54its parks, its signage.
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15:54 - 15:57It might seem frivolous, but it's not.
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15:58 - 16:00TK: Often when city leaders say,
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16:00 - 16:04"We have more important things to do
than worry about a city flag," -
16:04 - 16:06my response is,
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16:06 - 16:07"If you had a great city flag,
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16:07 - 16:10you would have a banner
for people to rally under -
16:10 - 16:13to face those more important things."
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16:14 - 16:15(Music)
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16:15 - 16:17RM: I've seen firsthand
what a good city flag can do -
16:17 - 16:19in the case of Chicago.
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16:19 - 16:21The marriage of good design
and civic pride -
16:21 - 16:24is something that we need in all places.
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16:24 - 16:28The best part about municipal flags
is that we own them. -
16:28 - 16:29They are an open-source,
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16:29 - 16:33publicly owned design language
of the community. -
16:33 - 16:34When they are done well,
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16:34 - 16:39they are remixable, adaptable,
and they are powerful. -
16:39 - 16:41We could control the branding
and graphical imagery -
16:41 - 16:43of our cities with a good flag,
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16:43 - 16:45but instead, by having
bad flags we don't use, -
16:45 - 16:48we cede that territory to sports teams
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16:48 - 16:51and chambers of commerce
and tourism boards. -
16:51 - 16:53Sports teams can leave
and break our hearts. -
16:53 - 16:56And besides, some of us
don't really care about sports. -
16:56 - 16:59And tourism campaigns can just be cheesy.
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17:00 - 17:01But a great city flag
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17:01 - 17:04is something that represents
a city to its people -
17:04 - 17:06and its people to the world at large.
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17:06 - 17:08And when that flag is a beautiful thing,
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17:08 - 17:10that connection is a beautiful thing.
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17:11 - 17:15So maybe all the city flags
can be as inspiring as Hong Kong -
17:15 - 17:17or Portland or Trondheim,
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17:17 - 17:19and we can do away with all the bad flags
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17:19 - 17:23like San Francisco, Milwaukee,
Cedar Rapids, -
17:23 - 17:25and finally, when we're all done,
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17:25 - 17:28we can do something
about Pocatello, Idaho, -
17:28 - 17:32considered by the North American
Vexillological Association -
17:32 - 17:35as the worst city flag in North America.
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17:36 - 17:37[Proud to be Pocatello]
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17:37 - 17:40(Laughter)
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17:40 - 17:44(Applause)
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17:44 - 17:45Yeah.
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17:45 - 17:46(Applause)
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17:46 - 17:49That thing has a trademark
symbol on it, people. -
17:49 - 17:51(Laughter)
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17:51 - 17:53That hurts me just to look at.
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17:53 - 17:54(Laughter)
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17:54 - 17:56Thank you so much for listening.
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17:56 - 18:02(Applause)
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18:02 - 18:05[Music by: Melodium (@melodiumbox)
and Keegan DeWitt (@keegandewitt)]
- Title:
- Why city flags may be the worst-designed thing you've never noticed
- Speaker:
- Roman Mars
- Description:
-
Roman Mars is obsessed with flags — and after you watch this talk, you might be, too. These ubiquitous symbols of civic pride are often designed, well, pretty terribly. But they don't have to be. In this surprising and hilarious talk about vexillology — the study of flags — Mars reveals the five basic principles of flag design and shows why he believes they can be applied to just about anything.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 18:18
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Krystian Aparta
The English transcript was updated on 2/28/2017. On-screen text was added at 17:36: [Proud to be Pocatello].