крымский фронт уверяет: "оккупанты Крыма - не россияне"
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0:02 - 0:04I'm from the 10th self-defense company
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0:04 - 0:06which was formed on
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0:06 - 0:09on the 23rd of February in Simferopol
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0:09 - 0:12I'm the second in command for combat operations
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0:12 - 0:14What are your responsibilities?
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0:14 - 0:17My responsibilities are the same as
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0:17 - 0:21would be for the same position in any company of the Ukrainian army
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0:21 - 0:23I served in the Ukrainian army
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0:23 - 0:27I don't know of any other.
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0:27 - 0:28So you have a fully legal army here?
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0:28 - 0:30How is this a legal army? It's a militia.
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0:30 - 0:32An army is put together by the government.
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0:32 - 0:40We are a militia.
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0:40 - 0:42We were put together by Aksyonov.
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0:42 - 0:44All legal issues should be directed to him.
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0:44 - 0:48I'm just a volunteer. As far as I know,
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0:48 - 0:51we aren't violating anything.
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0:51 - 0:53But you, together with the Russian military
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0:53 - 0:55Why do you think they are the Russian military?
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0:55 - 0:57Who's military are they?
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0:57 - 1:02I don't want to hide where these guys are from
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1:02 - 1:05I want to assure you, you will be very surprised
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1:05 - 1:07in due time, when you find out who they are.
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1:07 - 1:09They are Crimeans.
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1:09 - 1:10Crimeans?
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1:10 - 1:12Yeah, Crimeans. Just like me.
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1:12 - 1:14It's just that I can talk to you, but they cannot.
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1:14 - 1:16What kind of military are they?
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1:16 - 1:17Various. I'm infantry.
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1:17 - 1:19But in Crimea, we have the Black Sea Fleet.
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1:19 - 1:21That's not the point.
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1:21 - 1:26We formed our militia out of former military men, as much as possible,
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1:26 - 1:31and not cooks or tailors, but people with experience.
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1:31 - 1:33So where are the weapons from?
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1:33 - 1:36Kind people helped us out.
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1:36 - 1:39You've got nice friends.
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1:39 - 1:41Well, the Maidan had nice friends, and so do we.
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1:41 - 1:44Would you be able to tell me where to get all this stuff? Machine guns, RPGs...
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1:44 - 1:48It's a regular machine gun, PKM. Ukraine is full of them.
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1:48 - 1:53You can find them in any armory. There's no extraordinary weaponry here.
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1:53 - 1:56So you deny the claim that these guys are Russian military?
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1:56 - 1:59I don't refuse, and I don't support that claim.
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1:59 - 2:02All I'm saying is you'll be surprised when you find out who this is.
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2:02 - 2:05How many such people are in Crimea?
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2:05 - 2:08We have a joint regiment.
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2:08 - 2:09How many people is that?
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2:09 - 2:11It's from 1500 to 2000 people.
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2:11 - 2:13And they are dispersed over all of Crimea?
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2:13 - 2:16Yes, that's right.
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2:16 - 2:20Because there are many things to do, and we have few people.
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2:20 - 2:21We have video of these same KamAZ trucks
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2:21 - 2:24and BTR with Russian number plates.
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2:24 - 2:27Well, if we didn't steal the armor from the Ukrainians, we got it from somewhere else, right?
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2:27 - 2:30So you stole them from the Russians?
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2:30 - 2:34No. Kind people helped us out.
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2:34 - 2:36They just helped you out? For what?
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2:36 - 2:40If my friend had 10 roubles, and I came to him
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2:40 - 2:43and asked for 50 kopecks, wouldn't he give them to me?
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2:43 - 2:45But why, for what reason?
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2:45 - 2:48For what reason? If I'm in trouble
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2:48 - 2:50I would ask for help from a friend.
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2:50 - 2:52But we are in a similar situation here
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2:52 - 2:55You're staying at home, I come to your house , armed with weapons
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2:55 - 3:01No, that's not how it is. These guys are polite
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3:01 - 3:05I don't know what you may have seen
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3:05 - 3:09I don't know what in particular you're interpreting, but pay attention to the fact that
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3:09 - 3:13I'm here. People come to me, and talk to me in a relatively hostile way
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3:13 - 3:16like, back at that upper checkpoint. They accuse me of unimaginable sins
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3:16 - 3:20and I never said a bad word to them.
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3:20 - 3:24But I've talked to other people like you
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3:24 - 3:29and they were rude, they told me to fuck off.
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3:29 - 3:31They said not to film.
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3:31 - 3:34I will look into it and
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3:34 - 3:38instruct my men. Please understand, people are under stress
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3:38 - 3:42But they are telling us what to do. In our own homes, in our country
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3:42 - 3:45I'm in my own country
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3:45 - 3:48if you're going to talk about law, then right now,
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3:48 - 3:53we don't, de facto, or de jure,
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3:53 - 3:55we don't have a government.
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3:55 - 3:58But we are inside Ukraine
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3:58 - 4:01I'm not saying Crimea is separate. Crimea is Ukraine
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4:01 - 4:03But you're putting up these roadblocks
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4:03 - 4:06Why do you think we've put them up?
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4:06 - 4:11We put them up so armed people from Ukraine don't come here
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4:11 - 4:15and kill me, you and your families.
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4:15 - 4:17So you won't let the Ukrainian army come here?
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4:17 - 4:19They are already here.
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4:19 - 4:20But there aren't many of them
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4:20 - 4:23So what? You don't count the rest of the units?
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4:23 - 4:26What if they need reinforcements in Crimea?
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4:26 - 4:27What for?
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4:27 - 4:30We have more than enough personnel.
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4:30 - 4:32For what purpose?
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4:32 - 4:34We don't want to fight with anyone.
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4:34 - 4:37Who is your superior?
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4:37 - 4:39My superior is the commander of the 10th self-defense company.
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4:39 - 4:44And who is his superior?
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4:44 - 4:46The Crimean Front Command. It's a social organization
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4:46 - 4:48which, in times of trouble, has decided to
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4:48 - 4:52carry out these actions. And right now, we have legal political structures
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4:52 - 4:55and we obey their orders. We have a Prime Minister.
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4:55 - 4:57we have a Council representative.
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4:57 - 5:00But we also have an interim president
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5:00 - 5:01the Verhovna Rada of Ukraine
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5:01 - 5:04As far as I know,
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5:04 - 5:10legally, the procedure for impeachment wasn't carried out
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5:10 - 5:14so while Yanukovich is alive, no matter where he is,
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5:14 - 5:20he is the president of the Ukraine and the supreme commander.
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5:20 - 5:23To a military person, you don't need to explain what that means.
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5:23 - 5:28It's an interesting situation. The HQ for the defense forces is in
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5:28 - 5:32Kiev, according to our control and communications systems.
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5:32 - 5:35So, whoever is inside that HQ, they are in command. Do you agree?
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5:35 - 5:38As a military man, I know that some people would actually say "Yes".
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5:38 - 5:40All the communications, all the nodes
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5:40 - 5:43go through that HQ. Remarkable, isn't it?
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5:43 - 5:46The army is paralyzed.
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5:46 - 5:48But there are also forces of
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5:48 - 5:49the Ukraine...
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5:49 - 5:51We are also the forces of the Ukraine. I'm a citizen, just like you
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5:51 - 5:54But you're not an army, you'r a militia.
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5:54 - 5:56We don't have the right
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5:56 - 6:00to call ourselves an army. We're a militia. Not the kind of militia
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6:00 - 6:01that we call our police.
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6:01 - 6:03Is it legal or not?
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6:03 - 6:09The law doesn't have anything that outlaws us.
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6:09 - 6:13The law says that people have the right to self-defense.
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6:13 - 6:17But the law prohibits forming armed organizations.
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6:17 - 6:19The law in Ukraine has been violated
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6:19 - 6:23multiple times. We have a precedent. The country has been moving towards that
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6:23 - 6:25So you want to continue violating the law?
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6:25 - 6:27No, I don't want to.
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6:27 - 6:29So why do you create such self-defense organizations?
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6:29 - 6:35Let's not ask each other rhetorical questions
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6:35 - 6:39You ask me questions, and don't give me a chance to answer
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6:39 - 6:43Whenever I answer however I want to, you bring me back around, full circle
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6:43 - 6:48That's a rhetorical question. Now, my answer is that currently
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6:48 - 6:53we are currently not violating
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6:53 - 6:55a single law of the Ukraine, with the exception of cases where
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6:55 - 7:01it has already been violated. Next,
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7:01 - 7:05unlike the Right Sector, we haven't killed anyone
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7:05 - 7:08haven't crucified, crushed or tortured people in basements.
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7:08 - 7:11Did the Right Sector kill anyone?
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7:11 - 7:12As far as I know, yes.
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7:12 - 7:13I watch TV. I get my information from there.
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7:13 - 7:15But do you have proof?
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7:15 - 7:18In that case,
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7:18 - 7:22whatever is happening now, either it actually happens and gets shown, or
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7:22 - 7:24it doesn't happen and doesn't get shown.
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7:24 - 7:27But showing and proving are different things.
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7:27 - 7:30So you think I should go to Kiev
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7:30 - 7:34go to the Maidan, scream out "Glory to the Communist Party of USSR!", wait until
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7:34 - 7:38people kill me, and then people here a telegram saying "guys, Kiev is dangerous"?
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7:38 - 7:40But there is the police
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7:40 - 7:45There is no police in Kiev.
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7:45 - 7:52You're just another citizen of Ukraine, like me
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7:52 - 7:54and you have all the rights and responsibility, with emphasis on the latter
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7:54 - 7:57of a citizen. If you're interested, read
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7:57 - 7:59the Constitution. Believe me, the changes made in 2010
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7:59 - 8:03don't change the substance of it. The changes are to do with power
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8:03 - 8:06So substance is that the source of political power is you and me.
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8:06 - 8:11All our freedoms, of religion, of speech,
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8:11 - 8:14you can say anything as long as it doesn't upset others
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8:14 - 8:15So what are you going to do here?
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8:15 - 8:18I'm just going to stand here and wait
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8:18 - 8:20until this situation resolves.
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8:20 - 8:22What's the point in staying here?
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8:22 - 8:23The point is
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8:23 - 8:27simply to show that we exist.
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8:27 - 8:30We did the exact same thing on the 23rd [of February].
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8:30 - 8:33Crimea has shown that it can defend itself
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8:33 - 8:36if it has to.
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8:36 - 8:38But why do you need to defend the army?
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8:38 - 8:40We're not defending the army.
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8:40 - 8:41So why are surrounding military units?
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8:41 - 8:46We're here to
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8:46 - 8:48my unit is here to prevent
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8:48 - 8:53civilian unrest, since our police is
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8:53 - 8:55unable to fully guarantee
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8:55 - 8:59the prevention of
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8:59 - 9:01big civil unrest.
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9:01 - 9:03What are you most concerned about?
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9:03 - 9:05I'm most concerned about stupid people
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9:05 - 9:08Somebody will grab a hunting shotgun from home, come here and shoot in the air
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9:08 - 9:11If that happens,
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9:11 - 9:13there are many armed people here. Things can happen.
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9:13 - 9:17You know we have plenty of stupid and drunk people here.
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9:17 - 9:18What is your name?
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9:18 - 9:19Vasiliy.
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9:19 - 9:21What is your last name?
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9:21 - 9:22Do you really need to know?
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9:22 - 9:22If possible, yes.
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9:22 - 9:24Semenyuk.
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9:24 - 9:25And who are you?
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9:25 - 9:26I'm the second in command for
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9:26 - 9:28the 10th self-defense company.
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9:28 - 9:29How many people do you have?
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9:29 - 9:30We have 126 people in my company.
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9:30 - 9:31And in total?
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9:31 - 9:33We drafted from 1500 to 2000 people.
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9:33 - 9:36I don't know the exact numbers
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9:36 - 9:40since I'm only in charge of the company, not the regiment.
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9:40 - 9:44So the guys here are just like you?
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9:44 - 9:46You will know in due time.
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9:46 - 9:47Tell us now, so we all know.
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9:47 - 9:51I don't have the right to, it's a secret.
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9:51 - 9:53But I've given you enough hints already.
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9:53 - 9:57If you want a specific answer, they are Crimeans.
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9:57 - 10:00Thank you. By "Crimeans", you mean citizens of the Ukraine?
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10:00 - 10:06Of course. I don't mean somebody who is just in Crimea right now. I mean Ukrainian citizens.
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10:06 - 10:08And if you want
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10:08 - 10:10So these are Ukrainian citizens?
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10:10 - 10:14I can show you my passport, but not on camera.
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10:14 - 10:17I understand that you're a Ukrainian citizen. But what about these guys?
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10:17 - 10:21For now these guys need to remain anonymous, for the security of their families
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10:21 - 10:25Trust me, these are citizens of Ukraine, like you and me
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10:25 - 10:28So we will find out later?
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10:28 - 10:32Of course. It will be a nice surprise.
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10:32 - 10:34If I were you, when this surprise comes about, I would be at
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10:34 - 10:36the Supreme Council.
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10:36 - 10:40When will it happen?
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10:40 - 10:41I honestly don't know.
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10:41 - 10:45That's not even a secret. I simply don't know
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10:45 - 10:51when these guys will get the order to show their papers, take off their masks, etc.
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10:51 - 10:52So that will happen?
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10:52 - 10:54Of course. It can't not happen.
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10:54 - 10:57I can tell that you're concerned about things. My friends
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10:57 - 11:01call me in concern that we've been invaded by another country
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11:01 - 11:07But that's how it is. These vehicles are Russian
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11:07 - 11:10So, if I can't get vehicles from, say, Turkey, what do you expect me to do?
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11:10 - 11:12But these vehicles are Russian?
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11:12 - 11:14That's right. If I had the money, I'd buy myself a Tiger (GAZ-2975)
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11:14 - 11:16but I don't have the money.
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11:16 - 11:19But you'll get them as gifts, right?
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11:19 - 11:23I really hope so. I personally can't afford it, 40 thousand dollars.
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11:23 - 11:28I'd like one, though. Turbo diesel, six cylinder
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11:28 - 11:30What's the point of another country financing
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11:30 - 11:33and providing cars and special equipment?
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11:33 - 11:36Can I answer your question with another question?
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11:36 - 11:37Go ahead.
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11:37 - 11:41Tell me, do you feel surprised when
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11:41 - 11:45the Crimean Tatars, our brotherly people,
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11:45 - 11:50since we honestly never make a distinction between ourselves and yourselves,
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11:50 - 11:52are you surprised when you receive aid from Turkey?
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11:52 - 11:54I know, for a fact, that the renovations of the coastline
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11:54 - 11:57in front of the Khan Palace was paid for by Turkish money.
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11:57 - 12:00But a Crimean Tatar who lives in Turkey paid for that
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12:00 - 12:03OK. So think about it, several million...
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12:03 - 12:05Crimean Tatars are the native people
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12:05 - 12:09of Crimea, but we don't have a government, so we don't have a budget
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12:09 - 12:12we don't have finances, so we get help from other countries.
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12:12 - 12:13And I'm a Ukrainian living in Crimea.
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12:13 - 12:15But there is such a thing as the Ukrainian government...
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12:15 - 12:19Let's talk in turns, OK?
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12:19 - 12:20I'm not accusing you of anything,
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12:20 - 12:22I'm not saying that Turkey is financing you.
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12:22 - 12:25I'm saying that IF another country gives you money
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12:25 - 12:30look at me, I'm not here representing a government body,
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12:30 - 12:35I'm here as someone that realized, on the 26th [of February], that he was betrayed. By everybody
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12:35 - 12:40They were obligated, by law to protect us. I was really surprised
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12:40 - 12:42I was ready to ask for help from anyone
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12:42 - 12:47from the devil himself, or from Lord Vader, if he came here with his Death Star
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12:47 - 12:49We just didn't have anywhere else to go.
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12:49 - 12:54Things were bad. In such a case,
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12:54 - 12:56if there is a kind person, well, obviously not just one,
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12:56 - 13:01many people have money, much more than me, with more possibilities
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13:01 - 13:02If that person offered to help...
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13:02 - 13:04But what about independence and sovereignty?
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13:04 - 13:09I'm standing here to ensure that Ukraine doesn't fall apart
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13:09 - 13:12I studied in Kiev.
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13:12 - 13:15But what about people that protest in the squares
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13:15 - 13:17demanding that Crimea gets annexed by Russia?
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13:17 - 13:18I'm not asking for that.
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13:18 - 13:20But some Russian people are.
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13:20 - 13:26Hold on. There are different companies, different commanders.
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13:26 - 13:28I can only speak for the people under my command.
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13:28 - 13:29But your command is united.
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13:29 - 13:34Wait. We have a unified command, but
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13:34 - 13:36the spectrum of political opinions within that command is very wide.
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13:36 - 13:38But you take orders from
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13:38 - 13:42Aksyonov? No, personally, I don't take orders from Aksyonov.
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13:42 - 13:45I take orders from the commander of my company. And he takes orders from
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13:45 - 13:48actually, if you want to go up the hierarchy, he is a Cossack
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13:48 - 13:53from Terek. So you can get an interview from him.
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13:53 - 13:57He's my direct commander. I came to sign up and saw that he knew what he was doing
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13:57 - 14:01and personally, I can't entrust my life and the life of my people under my command to just anyone.
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14:01 - 14:04Does he take orders from Akyonov?
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14:04 - 14:09I just gave you a clear answer.
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14:09 - 14:14I told you who I take orders from. If you want to know who my commander takes orders from, ask him.
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14:14 - 14:21I have my own opinion. I can say that yes, Aksyonov
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14:21 - 14:22is our head of government, and he's in my chain of command.
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14:22 - 14:25He's our main guy. I have to take orders from him.
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14:25 - 14:29[inaudible question]
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14:29 - 14:32Everyone has their own opinion.
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14:32 - 14:34I can't give you my opinion, since I'm a member of a militia
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14:34 - 14:37So you think this is a militia?
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14:37 - 14:42What else can you call this?
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14:42 - 14:43I don't know, what do you think?
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14:43 - 14:51Calling us "opolchenie" isn't really a politically correct term. A militia is when
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14:51 - 14:53people take up arms for self-defense.
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14:53 - 14:55So anybody who wants to, can take up arms and
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14:55 - 14:56you can call that a militia?
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14:56 - 14:58There are many historical examples.
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14:58 - 15:00Tell me, why the guys on Maidan can take up arms, but I can't?
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15:00 - 15:02What is my fault?
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15:02 - 15:05I don't know, I wasn't on the Maidan.
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15:05 - 15:09Neither was I. But I saw people shooting at each other.
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15:09 - 15:12I can tell you that in 22 years of life in Ukraine,
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15:12 - 15:17I was completely unprepared and deeply shocked.
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15:17 - 15:20Everything that's been happening in the past 3 months. All I want to say is
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15:20 - 15:22I don't want this to happen in Crimea.
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15:22 - 15:25I see. Thank you.
- Title:
- крымский фронт уверяет: "оккупанты Крыма - не россияне"
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Ополченцы крымского фронта уверяют: "оккупанты Крыма - не россияне, а сами же крымчане". Один из его руководителей говорит - оружием и машинами, на которых российские номера, обеспечили друзья. Сказал что что скоро все кто эти люди в масках с автоматами!
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Misha Penkov edited English subtitles for крымский фронт уверяет: "оккупанты Крыма - не россияне" |