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How the US should use its superpower status

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    When you come to TEDx,
    you always think about technology,
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    the world changing,
    becoming more innovative.
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    You think about the driverless.
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    Everyone's talking
    about driverless cars these days,
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    and I love the concept
    of a driverless car,
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    but when I go in one, you know,
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    I want it really slow,
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    I want access to the steering wheel
    and the brake, just in case.
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    I don't know about you,
    but I am not ready for a driverless bus.
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    I am not ready for a driverless airplane.
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    How about a driverless world?
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    And I ask you that
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    because we are increasingly in one.
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    It's not supposed to be that way.
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    We're number one,
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    the United States is large and in charge.
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    Americanization and globalization
    for the last several generations
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    have basically been the same thing.
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    Right? Whether it's
    the World Trade Organization
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    or it's the IMF, the World Bank,
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    the Bretton Woods Accord on currency,
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    these were American institutions,
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    our values, our friends, our allies,
    our money, our standards.
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    That was the way the world worked.
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    So it's sort of interesting,
    if you want to look at how the US looks,
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    here it is.
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    This is our view of how the world is run.
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    President Obama has got the red carpet,
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    he goes down Air Force One,
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    and it feels pretty good,
    it feels pretty comfortable.
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    Well, I don't know how many of you
    saw the China trip last week
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    and the G20.
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    Oh my God. Right?
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    This is how we landed
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    for the most important meeting
    of the world's leaders in China.
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    The National Security Advisor
    was actually spewing expletives
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    on the tarmac --
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    no red carpet,
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    kind of left out the bottom of the plane
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    along with all the media
    and everybody else.
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    Later on in the G20,
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    well, there's Obama.
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    (Laughter)
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    Hi, George.
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    Hi, Norman.
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    They look like they're
    about to get into a cage match, right?
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    And they did. It was 90 minutes long,
    and they talked about Syria.
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    That's what Putin wanted to talk about.
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    He's increasingly calling the shots.
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    He's the one willing to do stuff there.
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    There's not a lot of mutual like or trust,
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    but it's not as if the Americans
    are telling him what to do.
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    How about when the whole 20
    are getting together?
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    Surely, when the leaders are all onstage,
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    then the Americans
    are pulling their weight.
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    Uh-oh.
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    (Laughter)
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    Xi Jinping seems fine.
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    Angela Merkel has -- she always does --
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    that look, she always does that.
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    But Putin is telling
    Turkish president Erdogan what to do,
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    and Obama is like,
    what's going on over there?
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    You see. And the problem is
    it's not a G20,
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    the problem is
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    it's a G-Zero world that we live in,
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    a world order where there is
    no single country or alliance
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    that can meet the challenges
    of global leadership.
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    The G20 doesn't work,
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    the G7, all of our friends,
    that's history.
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    So globalization is continuing.
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    Goods and services and people
    and capital are moving across borders
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    faster and faster than ever before,
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    but Americanization is not.
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    So if I've convinced you of that,
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    I want to do two things
    with the rest of this talk.
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    I want to talk
    about the implications of that
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    for the whole world.
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    I'll go around it.
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    And then I want to talk about
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    what we think right here
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    in the United States and in New York.
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    So why? What are the implications.
    Why are we here?
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    Well, we're here
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    because the United States,
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    we spent two trillion dollars
    on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
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    that were failed.
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    We don't want to do that anymore.
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    We have large numbers
    of middle and working classes
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    that feel like they've not benefited
    from promises of globalization,
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    so they don't want to see it particularly.
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    And we have an energy revolution
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    where we don't need OPEC
    or the Middle East the way we used to.
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    We produce all that right here
    in the United States.
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    So the Americans don't want
    to be the global sheriff for security
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    or the architect of global trade.
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    The Americans don't want to even be
    the cheerleader of global values.
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    Well, then you look to Europe,
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    and the most important
    alliance in the world
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    has been the transatlantic relationship.
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    But it is now weaker than it has been
    at any point since World War II,
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    all of the crises,
    the Brexit conversations,
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    the hedging going on
    between the French and the Russians,
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    or the Germans and the Turks,
    or the Brits and the Chinese.
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    China does want to do more leadership.
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    They do, but only in the economic sphere,
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    and they want their own values,
    standards, currency,
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    in competition with that of the US.
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    The Russians want to do more leadership.
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    You see that in Ukraine,
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    in the Baltic states, in the Middle East,
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    but not with the Americans.
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    They want their own preferences and order.
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    That's why we are where we are.
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    So what happens going forward?
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    Let's start easy,
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    with the Middle East.
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    (Laughter)
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    You know, I left a little out,
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    but you get the general idea.
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    Look, there are three reasons
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    why the Middle East
    has had stability such as it is. Right?
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    One is because there was
    a willingness to provide
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    some level of military security
    by the US and allies.
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    Number two, it was easy to take
    a lot of cheap money out of the ground
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    because oil was expensive.
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    And number three
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    was no matter how bad the leaders were,
    the populations were relatively quiescent.
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    They didn't have the ability,
    and many didn't have the will
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    to really rise up against.
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    Well, I can tell you, in a G-Zero world,
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    all three of those things
    are increasingly not true,
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    and so failed states,
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    terrorism, refugees and the rest.
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    Does the entire Middle East fall apart?
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    No, the Kurds will do better,
    and Iraq, Israel, Iran over time.
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    But generally speaking,
    it's not a good look.
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    OK, how about this guy?
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    He's playing a poor hand very well.
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    There's no question
    he's hitting above his weight.
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    But long term -- I didn't mean that.
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    But long term, long term,
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    if you think that the Russians
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    were antagonized by the US and Europe
    expanding NATO right up to their borders
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    when we said they weren't going to,
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    and the EU encroaching them,
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    just wait until the Chinese
    put hundreds of billions of dollars
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    in every country around Russia
    they thought they had influence in.
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    The Chinese are going to dominate it.
    The Russians are picking up the crumbs.
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    In a G-Zero world, this is going to be
    a very tense 10 years for Mr. Putin.
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    It's not all bad. Right?
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    Asia actually looks a lot better.
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    There are real leaders across Asia,
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    they have a lot of political stability.
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    They're there for a while.
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    Mr. Modi in India,
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    Mr. Abe, who is probably
    about to get a third term written in
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    in the Liberal Democratic Party in Japan,
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    of course Xi Jinping
    who is consolidating enormous power,
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    the most powerful leader in China
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    since Mao.
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    Those are the three
    most important economies in Asia.
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    Now look, there are problems in Asia.
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    We see the sparring
    over the South China Sea.
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    We see that Kim Jong Un,
    just in the last couple of days,
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    tested yet another nuclear weapon.
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    But the leaders in Asia
    do not feel the need
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    to wave the flag,
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    to go xenophobic,
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    to actually allow escalation
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    of the geopolitical
    and cross-border tensions.
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    They want to focus on long-term
    economic stability and growth.
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    And that's what they're actually doing.
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    Let's turn to Europe.
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    Europe does look a little scared
    in this environment.
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    So much of what is happening
    in the Middle East
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    is washing up quite literally
    onto European shores.
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    You see Brexit and you see
    the concerns of populism
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    across all of the European states.
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    Let me tell you that over the long term,
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    in a G-Zero world,
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    European expansion
    will be seen to have gone too far.
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    Europe went right up to Russia,
    went right down to the Middle East,
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    and if the world were truly becoming
    more flat and more Americanized,
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    that would be less of a problem,
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    but in a G-Zero world,
    those countries nearest Russia
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    and nearest the Middle East
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    actually have different
    economic capabilities,
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    different social stability
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    and different political preferences
    and systems than core Europe.
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    So Europe was able to truly expand
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    under the G7,
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    but under the G-Zero,
    Europe will get smaller.
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    Core Europe around Germany
    and France and others
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    will still work, be functional,
    stable, wealthy, integrated.
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    But the periphery,
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    countries like Greece
    and Turkey and others,
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    will not look that good at all.
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    Latin America, a lot of populism,
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    made the economies not go so well.
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    They had been more opposed
    to the United States for decades.
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    Increasingly, they're coming back.
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    We see that in Argentina.
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    We see it with the openness in Cuba.
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    We will see it in Venezuela
    when Maduro falls.
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    We will see it in Brazil
    after the impeachment
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    and when we finally see
    a new legitimate president elected there.
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    The only place you see
    that is moving in another direction
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    is the unpopularity
    of Mexican president Peña Nieto.
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    There you could actually see
    a slip away from the United States
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    over the coming years.
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    The US election matters a lot
    on that one, too.
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    (Laughter)
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    Africa, right?
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    A lot of people have said
    it's going to be Africa's decade, finally.
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    In a G-Zero world,
    it is absolutely an amazing time
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    for a few African countries,
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    those governed well
    with a lot of urbanization,
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    a lot of smart people,
    women really getting into the workforce,
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    entrepreneurship taking off.
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    But for most of the countries in Africa,
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    it's going to be a lot more dicey:
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    extreme climate conditions,
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    radicalism both from Islam
    and also Christianity,
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    very poor governance,
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    borders you can't defend,
    lots of forced migration.
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    Those countries can fall off the map.
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    So you're really going to see
    an extreme segregation going on
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    between the winners
    and the losers across Africa.
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    Finally, back to the United States.
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    What do I think about us?
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    Because there are a lot of upset people,
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    not here at TEDx, I know,
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    but in the United States, my God,
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    after 15 months of campaigning,
    we should be upset.
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    I understand that.
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    But a lot of people are upset
    because they say, "Washington's broken,
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    we don't trust the establishment,
    we hate the media."
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    Heck, even globalists like me
    are taking it on the chin.
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    Look, I do think we have to recognize,
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    my fellow campers,
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    that when you are being
    chased by the bear,
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    in the global context,
    you need not outrun the bear,
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    you need to only outrun
    your fellow campers.
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    (Laughter)
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    Now, I just told you
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    about our fellow campers.
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    Right? And from that perspective,
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    we look OK.
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    A lot of people in that context say,
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    "Let's go dollar.
    Let's go New York real estate.
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    Let's send our kids
    to American universities."
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    You know, our neighbors are awesome:
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    Canada, Mexico
    and two big bodies of water.
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    You know how much Turkey
    would love to have neighbors like that?
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    Those are awesome neighbors.
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    Terrorism is a problem
    in the United States.
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    God knows we know it here in New York.
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    But it's a much bigger problem
    in Europe than the US.
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    It's a much bigger problem
    in the Middle East
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    than it is in Europe.
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    These are factors of large magnitude.
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    We just accepted 10,000 Syrian refugees,
    and we're complaining bitterly about it.
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    You know why?
    Because they can't swim here.
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    Right? I mean, the Turks would love
    to have only 10,000 Syrian refugees.
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    The Jordanians,
    the Germans, the Brits. Right?
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    That's not the situation.
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    That's the reality of the United States.
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    Now, that sounds pretty good.
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    Here's the challenge.
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    In a G-Zero world, the way you lead
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    is by example.
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    If we know we don't want to be
    the global cop anymore,
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    if we know we're not going to be
    the architect of global trade,
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    we're not going to be
    the cheerleader of global values,
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    we're not going to do it
    the way we used to,
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    the 21st century is changing,
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    we need to lead by example --
    be so compelling
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    that all these other people
    are going to still say,
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    it's not just they're faster campers.
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    Even when the bear is not chasing us,
    this is a good place to be.
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    We want to emulate them.
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    The election process this year
    is not proving a good option
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    for leading by example.
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    Hillary Clinton says
    it's going to be like the '90s.
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    We can still be
    that cheerleader on values.
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    We can still be
    the architect of global trade.
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    We can still be the global sheriff.
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    And Donald Trump wants
    to bring us back to the '30s.
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    He's saying, "Our way or the highway.
    You don't like it, lump it." Right?
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    Neither are recognizing
    a fundamental truth of the G-Zero,
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    which is that even though
    the US is not in decline,
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    it is getting objectively harder
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    for the Americans to impose their will,
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    even have great influence,
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    on the global order.
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    Are we prepared to truly lead by example?
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    What would we have to do to fix this
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    after November,
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    after the next president comes in?
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    Well, either we have to have
    another crisis that forces us to respond.
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    A depression would do that.
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    Another global financial
    crisis could do this.
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    God forbid, another 9/11 could do that.
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    Or, absent crisis,
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    we need to see that the hollowing out,
    the inequality, the challenges
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    that are growing and growing
    in the United States,
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    are themselves urgent enough
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    to force our leaders to change,
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    and that we have those voices.
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    Through our cell phones, individually,
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    we have those voices
    to compel them to change.
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    There is, of course, a third choice,
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    perhaps the most likely one,
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    which is that we do
    neither of those things,
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    and in four years time you invite me back,
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    and I will give this speech yet again.
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    Thank you very, very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How the US should use its superpower status
Speaker:
Ian Bremmer
Description:

Americanization and globalization have basically been the same thing for the last several generations. But the US's view of the world -- and the world's view of the US -- is changing. In a fast-paced tour of the current state of international politics, Ian Bremmer discusses the challenges of a world where no single country or alliance can meet the challenges of global leadership and asks if the US is ready to lead by example, not by force.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
15:37

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