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My radical plan for small nuclear fission reactors

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    Well, I have a big announcement to make today,
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    and I'm really excited about this.
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    And this may be a little bit of a surprise
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    to many of you who know my research
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    and what I've done well.
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    I've really tried to solve some big problems:
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    counterterrorism, nuclear terrorism,
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    and health care and diagnosing and treating cancer,
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    but I started thinking about all these problems,
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    and I realized that the really biggest problem we face,
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    what all these other problems come down to,
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    is energy, is electricity, the flow of electrons.
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    And I decided that I was going to set out
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    to try to solve this problem.
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    And this probably is not what you're expecting.
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    You're probably expecting me to come up here
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    and talk about fusion,
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    because that's what I've done most of my life.
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    But this is actually a talk about, okay --
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    (Laughter) —
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    but this is actually a talk about fission.
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    It's about perfecting something old,
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    and bringing something old into the 21st century.
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    Let's talk a little bit about how nuclear fission works.
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    In a nuclear power plant, you have
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    a big pot of water that's under high pressure,
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    and you have some fuel rods,
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    and these fuel rods are encased in zirconium,
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    and they're little pellets of uranium dioxide fuel,
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    and a fission reaction is controlled and maintained at a proper level,
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    and that reaction heats up water,
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    the water turns to steam, steam turns the turbine,
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    and you produce electricity from it.
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    This is the same way we've been producing electricity,
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    the steam turbine idea, for 100 years,
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    and nuclear was a really big advancement
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    in a way to heat the water,
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    but you still boil water and that turns to steam and turns the turbine.
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    And I thought, you know, is this the best way to do it?
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    Is fission kind of played out,
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    or is there something left to innovate here?
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    And I realized that I had hit upon something
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    that I think has this huge potential to change the world.
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    And this is what it is.
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    This is a small modular reactor.
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    So it's not as big as the reactor you see in the diagram here.
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    This is between 50 and 100 megawatts.
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    But that's a ton of power.
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    That's between, say at an average use,
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    that's maybe 25,000 to 100,000 homes could run off that.
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    Now the really interesting thing about these reactors
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    is they're built in a factory.
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    So they're modular reactors that are built
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    essentially on an assembly line,
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    and they're trucked anywhere in the world,
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    you plop them down, and they produce electricity.
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    This region right here is the reactor.
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    And this is buried below ground, which is really important.
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    For someone who's done a lot of counterterrorism work,
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    I can't extol to you
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    how great having something buried below the ground is
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    for proliferation and security concerns.
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    And inside this reactor is a molten salt,
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    so anybody who's a fan of thorium,
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    they're going to be really excited about this,
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    because these reactors happen to be really good
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    at breeding and burning the thorium fuel cycle,
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    uranium-233.
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    But I'm not really concerned about the fuel.
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    You can run these off -- they're really hungry,
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    they really like down-blended weapons pits,
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    so that's highly enriched uranium and weapons-grade plutonium
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    that's been down-blended.
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    It's made into a grade where it's not usable for a nuclear weapon,
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    but they love this stuff.
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    And we have a lot of it sitting around,
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    because this is a big problem.
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    You know, in the Cold War, we built up this huge arsenal
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    of nuclear weapons, and that was great,
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    and we don't need them anymore,
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    and what are we doing with all the waste, essentially?
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    What are we doing with all the pits of those nuclear weapons?
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    Well, we're securing them, and it would be great
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    if we could burn them, eat them up,
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    and this reactor loves this stuff.
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    So it's a molten salt reactor. It has a core,
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    and it has a heat exchanger from the hot salt,
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    the radioactive salt, to a cold salt which isn't radioactive.
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    It's still thermally hot but it's not radioactive.
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    And then that's a heat exchanger
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    to what makes this design really, really interesting,
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    and that's a heat exchanger to a gas.
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    So going back to what I was saying before about all power
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    being produced -- well, other than photovoltaic --
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    being produced by this boiling of steam and turning a turbine,
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    that's actually not that efficient, and in fact,
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    in a nuclear power plant like this,
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    it's only roughly 30 to 35 percent efficient.
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    That's how much thermal energy the reactor's putting out
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    to how much electricity it's producing.
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    And the reason the efficiencies are so low is these reactors
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    operate at pretty low temperature.
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    They operate anywhere from, you know,
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    maybe 200 to 300 degrees Celsius.
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    And these reactors run at 600 to 700 degrees Celsius,
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    which means the higher the temperature you go to,
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    thermodynamics tells you that you will have higher efficiencies.
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    And this reactor doesn't use water. It uses gas,
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    so supercritical CO2 or helium,
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    and that goes into a turbine,
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    and this is called the Brayton cycle.
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    This is the thermodynamic cycle that produces electricity,
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    and this makes this almost 50 percent efficient,
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    between 45 and 50 percent efficiency.
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    And I'm really excited about this,
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    because it's a very compact core.
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    Molten salt reactors are very compact by nature,
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    but what's also great is you get a lot more electricity out
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    for how much uranium you're fissioning,
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    not to mention the fact that these burn up.
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    Their burn-up is much higher.
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    So for a given amount of fuel you put in the reactor,
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    a lot more of it's being used.
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    And the problem with a traditional nuclear power plant like this
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    is, you've got these rods that are clad in zirconium,
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    and inside them are uranium dioxide fuel pellets.
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    Well, uranium dioxide's a ceramic,
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    and ceramic doesn't like releasing what's inside of it.
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    So you have what's called the xenon pit,
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    and so some of these fission products love neutrons.
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    They love the neutrons that are going on
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    and helping this reaction take place.
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    And they eat them up, which means that, combined with
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    the fact that the cladding doesn't last very long,
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    you can only run one of these reactors
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    for roughly, say, 18 months without refueling it.
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    So these reactors run for 30 years without refueling,
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    which is, in my opinion, very, very amazing,
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    because it means it's a sealed system.
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    No refueling means you can seal them up
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    and they're not going to be a proliferation risk,
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    and they're not going to have
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    either nuclear material or radiological material
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    proliferated from their cores.
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    But let's go back to safety, because everybody
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    after Fukushima had to reassess the safety of nuclear,
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    and one of the things when I set out to design a power reactor
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    was it had to be passively and intrinsically safe,
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    and I'm really excited about this reactor
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    for essentially two reasons.
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    One, it doesn't operate at high pressure.
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    So traditional reactors like a pressurized water reactor
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    or boiling water reactor, they're very, very hot water
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    at very high pressures, and this means, essentially,
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    in the event of an accident, if you had any kind of breach
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    of this stainless steel pressure vessel,
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    the coolant would leave the core.
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    These reactors operate at essentially atmospheric pressure,
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    so there's no inclination for the fission products
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    to leave the reactor in the event of an accident.
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    Also, they operate at high temperatures,
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    and the fuel is molten, so they can't melt down,
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    but in the event that the reactor ever went out of tolerances,
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    or you lost off-site power in the case
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    of something like Fukushima, there's a dump tank.
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    Because your fuel is liquid, and it's combined with your coolant,
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    you could actually just drain the core
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    into what's called a sub-critical setting,
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    basically a tank underneath the reactor
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    that has some neutrons absorbers.
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    And this is really important, because the reaction stops.
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    In this kind of reactor, you can't do that.
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    The fuel, like I said, is ceramic inside zirconium fuel rods,
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    and in the event of an accident in one of these type of reactors,
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    Fukushima and Three Mile Island --
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    looking back at Three Mile Island, we didn't really see this for a while —
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    but these zirconium claddings on these fuel rods,
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    what happens is, when they see high pressure water,
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    steam, in an oxidizing environment,
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    they'll actually produce hydrogen,
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    and that hydrogen has this explosive capability
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    to release fission products.
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    So the core of this reactor, since it's not under pressure
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    and it doesn't have this chemical reactivity,
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    means that there's no inclination for the fission products
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    to leave this reactor.
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    So even in the event of an accident,
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    yeah, the reactor may be toast, which is, you know,
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    sorry for the power company,
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    but we're not going to contaminate large quantities of land.
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    So I really think that in the, say,
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    20 years it's going to take us to get fusion
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    and make fusion a reality,
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    this could be the source of energy
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    that provides carbon-free electricity.
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    Carbon-free electricity.
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    And it's an amazing technology because
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    not only does it combat climate change,
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    but it's an innovation.
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    It's a way to bring power to the developing world,
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    because it's produced in a factory and it's cheap.
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    You can put them anywhere in the world you want to.
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    And maybe something else.
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    As a kid, I was obsessed with space.
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    Well, I was obsessed with nuclear science too, to a point,
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    but before that I was obsessed with space,
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    and I was really excited about, you know,
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    being an astronaut and designing rockets,
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    which was something that was always exciting to me.
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    But I think I get to come back to this,
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    because imagine having a compact reactor in a rocket
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    that produces 50 to 100 megawatts.
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    That is the rocket designer's dream.
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    That's someone who is designing a habitat on another planet's dream.
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    Not only do you have 50 to 100 megawatts
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    to power whatever you want to provide propulsion to get you there,
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    but you have power once you get there.
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    You know, rocket designers who use solar panels
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    or fuel cells, I mean a few watts or kilowatts --
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    wow, that's a lot of power.
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    I mean, now we're talking about 100 megawatts.
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    That's a ton of power.
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    That could power a Martian community.
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    That could power a rocket there.
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    And so I hope that
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    maybe I'll have an opportunity to kind of explore
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    my rocketry passion at the same time that I explore my nuclear passion.
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    And people say, "Oh, well, you've launched this thing,
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    and it's radioactive, into space, and what about accidents?"
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    But we launch plutonium batteries all the time.
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    Everybody was really excited about Curiosity,
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    and that had this big plutonium battery on board
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    that has plutonium-238,
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    which actually has a higher specific activity
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    than the low-enriched uranium fuel of these molten salt reactors,
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    which means that the effects would be negligible,
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    because you launch it cold,
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    and when it gets into space is where you actually activate this reactor.
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    So I'm really excited.
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    I think that I've designed this reactor here
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    that can be an innovative source of energy,
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    provide power for all kinds of neat scientific applications,
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    and I'm really prepared to do this.
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    I graduated high school in May, and --
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    (Laughter) (Applause) —
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    I graduated high school in May,
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    and I decided that I was going to start up a company
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    to commercialize these technologies that I've developed,
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    these revolutionary detectors for scanning cargo containers
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    and these systems to produce medical isotopes,
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    but I want to do this, and I've slowly been building up
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    a team of some of the most incredible people
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    I've ever had the chance to work with,
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    and I'm really prepared to make this a reality.
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    And I think, I think, that looking at the technology,
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    this will be cheaper than or the same price as natural gas,
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    and you don't have to refuel it for 30 years,
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    which is an advantage for the developing world.
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    And I'll just say one more maybe philosophical thing
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    to end with, which is weird for a scientist.
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    But I think there's something really poetic
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    about using nuclear power to propel us to the stars,
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    because the stars are giant fusion reactors.
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    They're giant nuclear cauldrons in the sky.
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    The energy that I'm able to talk to you today,
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    while it was converted to chemical energy in my food,
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    originally came from a nuclear reaction,
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    and so there's something poetic about, in my opinion,
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    perfecting nuclear fission
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    and using it as a future source of innovative energy.
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    So thank you guys.
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    (Applause)
Title:
My radical plan for small nuclear fission reactors
Speaker:
Taylor Wilson
Description:

Taylor Wilson was 14 when he built a nuclear fusion reactor in his parents' garage. Now 19, he returns to the TED stage to present a new take on an old topic: fission. Wilson, who has won backing to create a company to realize his vision, explains why he's so excited about his innovative design for small modular fission reactors -- and why it could be the next big step in solving the global energy crisis.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
12:53

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