1 00:00:00,656 --> 00:00:02,959 Well, I have a big announcement to make today, 2 00:00:02,959 --> 00:00:05,132 and I'm really excited about this. 3 00:00:05,132 --> 00:00:07,460 And this may be a little bit of a surprise 4 00:00:07,460 --> 00:00:10,714 to many of you who know my research 5 00:00:10,714 --> 00:00:12,869 and what I've done well. 6 00:00:12,869 --> 00:00:16,273 I've really tried to solve some big problems: 7 00:00:16,273 --> 00:00:18,740 counterterrorism, nuclear terrorism, 8 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:22,388 and health care and diagnosing and treating cancer, 9 00:00:22,388 --> 00:00:24,852 but I started thinking about all these problems, 10 00:00:24,852 --> 00:00:29,412 and I realized that the really biggest problem we face, 11 00:00:29,412 --> 00:00:31,660 what all these other problems come down to, 12 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:35,302 is energy, is electricity, the flow of electrons. 13 00:00:35,302 --> 00:00:38,421 And I decided that I was going to set out 14 00:00:38,421 --> 00:00:41,803 to try to solve this problem. 15 00:00:41,803 --> 00:00:45,775 And this probably is not what you're expecting. 16 00:00:45,775 --> 00:00:47,427 You're probably expecting me to come up here 17 00:00:47,427 --> 00:00:49,006 and talk about fusion, 18 00:00:49,006 --> 00:00:50,986 because that's what I've done most of my life. 19 00:00:50,986 --> 00:00:54,252 But this is actually a talk about, okay -- 20 00:00:54,252 --> 00:00:56,876 (Laughter) — 21 00:00:56,876 --> 00:00:59,843 but this is actually a talk about fission. 22 00:00:59,843 --> 00:01:01,369 It's about perfecting something old, 23 00:01:01,369 --> 00:01:04,019 and bringing something old into the 21st century. 24 00:01:04,019 --> 00:01:08,644 Let's talk a little bit about how nuclear fission works. 25 00:01:08,644 --> 00:01:10,388 In a nuclear power plant, you have 26 00:01:10,388 --> 00:01:13,036 a big pot of water that's under high pressure, 27 00:01:13,036 --> 00:01:14,554 and you have some fuel rods, 28 00:01:14,554 --> 00:01:16,923 and these fuel rods are encased in zirconium, 29 00:01:16,923 --> 00:01:19,793 and they're little pellets of uranium dioxide fuel, 30 00:01:19,793 --> 00:01:23,949 and a fission reaction is controlled and maintained at a proper level, 31 00:01:23,949 --> 00:01:27,100 and that reaction heats up water, 32 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:29,925 the water turns to steam, steam turns the turbine, 33 00:01:29,925 --> 00:01:31,855 and you produce electricity from it. 34 00:01:31,855 --> 00:01:34,635 This is the same way we've been producing electricity, 35 00:01:34,635 --> 00:01:38,100 the steam turbine idea, for 100 years, 36 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,121 and nuclear was a really big advancement 37 00:01:41,121 --> 00:01:42,701 in a way to heat the water, 38 00:01:42,701 --> 00:01:47,156 but you still boil water and that turns to steam and turns the turbine. 39 00:01:47,156 --> 00:01:50,972 And I thought, you know, is this the best way to do it? 40 00:01:50,972 --> 00:01:53,772 Is fission kind of played out, 41 00:01:53,772 --> 00:01:56,627 or is there something left to innovate here? 42 00:01:56,627 --> 00:01:59,212 And I realized that I had hit upon something 43 00:01:59,212 --> 00:02:03,516 that I think has this huge potential to change the world. 44 00:02:03,516 --> 00:02:07,007 And this is what it is. 45 00:02:07,007 --> 00:02:09,612 This is a small modular reactor. 46 00:02:09,612 --> 00:02:14,316 So it's not as big as the reactor you see in the diagram here. 47 00:02:14,316 --> 00:02:16,719 This is between 50 and 100 megawatts. 48 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:18,340 But that's a ton of power. 49 00:02:18,340 --> 00:02:21,789 That's between, say at an average use, 50 00:02:21,789 --> 00:02:26,930 that's maybe 25,000 to 100,000 homes could run off that. 51 00:02:26,930 --> 00:02:29,508 Now the really interesting thing about these reactors 52 00:02:29,508 --> 00:02:31,633 is they're built in a factory. 53 00:02:31,633 --> 00:02:33,596 So they're modular reactors that are built 54 00:02:33,596 --> 00:02:35,941 essentially on an assembly line, 55 00:02:35,941 --> 00:02:38,100 and they're trucked anywhere in the world, 56 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:40,411 you plop them down, and they produce electricity. 57 00:02:40,411 --> 00:02:43,853 This region right here is the reactor. 58 00:02:43,853 --> 00:02:46,164 And this is buried below ground, which is really important. 59 00:02:46,164 --> 00:02:48,877 For someone who's done a lot of counterterrorism work, 60 00:02:48,877 --> 00:02:51,573 I can't extol to you 61 00:02:51,573 --> 00:02:54,358 how great having something buried below the ground is 62 00:02:54,358 --> 00:02:58,397 for proliferation and security concerns. 63 00:02:58,397 --> 00:03:01,910 And inside this reactor is a molten salt, 64 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:04,688 so anybody who's a fan of thorium, 65 00:03:04,688 --> 00:03:06,014 they're going to be really excited about this, 66 00:03:06,014 --> 00:03:11,096 because these reactors happen to be really good 67 00:03:11,096 --> 00:03:13,680 at breeding and burning the thorium fuel cycle, 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,731 uranium-233. 69 00:03:15,731 --> 00:03:18,301 But I'm not really concerned about the fuel. 70 00:03:18,301 --> 00:03:21,525 You can run these off -- they're really hungry, 71 00:03:21,525 --> 00:03:24,957 they really like down-blended weapons pits, 72 00:03:24,957 --> 00:03:27,821 so that's highly enriched uranium and weapons-grade plutonium 73 00:03:27,821 --> 00:03:28,854 that's been down-blended. 74 00:03:28,854 --> 00:03:32,246 It's made into a grade where it's not usable for a nuclear weapon, 75 00:03:32,246 --> 00:03:35,397 but they love this stuff. 76 00:03:35,397 --> 00:03:37,180 And we have a lot of it sitting around, 77 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:38,822 because this is a big problem. 78 00:03:38,822 --> 00:03:40,939 You know, in the Cold War, we built up this huge arsenal 79 00:03:40,939 --> 00:03:43,279 of nuclear weapons, and that was great, 80 00:03:43,279 --> 00:03:45,734 and we don't need them anymore, 81 00:03:45,734 --> 00:03:49,078 and what are we doing with all the waste, essentially? 82 00:03:49,078 --> 00:03:51,493 What are we doing with all the pits of those nuclear weapons? 83 00:03:51,493 --> 00:03:53,394 Well, we're securing them, and it would be great 84 00:03:53,394 --> 00:03:55,138 if we could burn them, eat them up, 85 00:03:55,138 --> 00:03:57,139 and this reactor loves this stuff. 86 00:03:57,139 --> 00:04:00,161 So it's a molten salt reactor. It has a core, 87 00:04:00,161 --> 00:04:03,935 and it has a heat exchanger from the hot salt, 88 00:04:03,935 --> 00:04:08,005 the radioactive salt, to a cold salt which isn't radioactive. 89 00:04:08,005 --> 00:04:10,652 It's still thermally hot but it's not radioactive. 90 00:04:10,652 --> 00:04:12,432 And then that's a heat exchanger 91 00:04:12,432 --> 00:04:15,725 to what makes this design really, really interesting, 92 00:04:15,725 --> 00:04:18,733 and that's a heat exchanger to a gas. 93 00:04:18,733 --> 00:04:21,277 So going back to what I was saying before about all power 94 00:04:21,277 --> 00:04:24,270 being produced -- well, other than photovoltaic -- 95 00:04:24,270 --> 00:04:28,168 being produced by this boiling of steam and turning a turbine, 96 00:04:28,168 --> 00:04:30,688 that's actually not that efficient, and in fact, 97 00:04:30,688 --> 00:04:33,064 in a nuclear power plant like this, 98 00:04:33,064 --> 00:04:37,872 it's only roughly 30 to 35 percent efficient. 99 00:04:37,872 --> 00:04:40,409 That's how much thermal energy the reactor's putting out 100 00:04:40,409 --> 00:04:42,062 to how much electricity it's producing. 101 00:04:42,062 --> 00:04:44,987 And the reason the efficiencies are so low is these reactors 102 00:04:44,987 --> 00:04:46,693 operate at pretty low temperature. 103 00:04:46,693 --> 00:04:48,448 They operate anywhere from, you know, 104 00:04:48,448 --> 00:04:52,141 maybe 200 to 300 degrees Celsius. 105 00:04:52,141 --> 00:04:56,140 And these reactors run at 600 to 700 degrees Celsius, 106 00:04:56,140 --> 00:04:58,845 which means the higher the temperature you go to, 107 00:04:58,845 --> 00:05:01,741 thermodynamics tells you that you will have higher efficiencies. 108 00:05:01,741 --> 00:05:05,415 And this reactor doesn't use water. It uses gas, 109 00:05:05,415 --> 00:05:07,893 so supercritical CO2 or helium, 110 00:05:07,893 --> 00:05:09,334 and that goes into a turbine, 111 00:05:09,334 --> 00:05:11,195 and this is called the Brayton cycle. 112 00:05:11,195 --> 00:05:13,669 This is the thermodynamic cycle that produces electricity, 113 00:05:13,669 --> 00:05:16,099 and this makes this almost 50 percent efficient, 114 00:05:16,099 --> 00:05:18,989 between 45 and 50 percent efficiency. 115 00:05:18,989 --> 00:05:20,660 And I'm really excited about this, 116 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:23,173 because it's a very compact core. 117 00:05:23,173 --> 00:05:27,309 Molten salt reactors are very compact by nature, 118 00:05:27,309 --> 00:05:30,614 but what's also great is you get a lot more electricity out 119 00:05:30,614 --> 00:05:33,359 for how much uranium you're fissioning, 120 00:05:33,359 --> 00:05:35,438 not to mention the fact that these burn up. 121 00:05:35,438 --> 00:05:37,030 Their burn-up is much higher. 122 00:05:37,030 --> 00:05:39,008 So for a given amount of fuel you put in the reactor, 123 00:05:39,008 --> 00:05:41,364 a lot more of it's being used. 124 00:05:41,364 --> 00:05:44,549 And the problem with a traditional nuclear power plant like this 125 00:05:44,549 --> 00:05:48,821 is, you've got these rods that are clad in zirconium, 126 00:05:48,821 --> 00:05:51,550 and inside them are uranium dioxide fuel pellets. 127 00:05:51,550 --> 00:05:53,724 Well, uranium dioxide's a ceramic, 128 00:05:53,724 --> 00:05:56,940 and ceramic doesn't like releasing what's inside of it. 129 00:05:56,940 --> 00:05:59,241 So you have what's called the xenon pit, 130 00:05:59,241 --> 00:06:01,345 and so some of these fission products love neutrons. 131 00:06:01,345 --> 00:06:02,592 They love the neutrons that are going on 132 00:06:02,592 --> 00:06:04,992 and helping this reaction take place. 133 00:06:04,992 --> 00:06:07,968 And they eat them up, which means that, combined with 134 00:06:07,968 --> 00:06:10,205 the fact that the cladding doesn't last very long, 135 00:06:10,205 --> 00:06:11,919 you can only run one of these reactors 136 00:06:11,919 --> 00:06:16,447 for roughly, say, 18 months without refueling it. 137 00:06:16,447 --> 00:06:21,038 So these reactors run for 30 years without refueling, 138 00:06:21,038 --> 00:06:23,758 which is, in my opinion, very, very amazing, 139 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:25,711 because it means it's a sealed system. 140 00:06:25,711 --> 00:06:28,582 No refueling means you can seal them up 141 00:06:28,582 --> 00:06:31,495 and they're not going to be a proliferation risk, 142 00:06:31,495 --> 00:06:33,766 and they're not going to have 143 00:06:33,766 --> 00:06:36,270 either nuclear material or radiological material 144 00:06:36,270 --> 00:06:38,582 proliferated from their cores. 145 00:06:38,582 --> 00:06:41,646 But let's go back to safety, because everybody 146 00:06:41,646 --> 00:06:45,424 after Fukushima had to reassess the safety of nuclear, 147 00:06:45,424 --> 00:06:47,974 and one of the things when I set out to design a power reactor 148 00:06:47,974 --> 00:06:51,526 was it had to be passively and intrinsically safe, 149 00:06:51,526 --> 00:06:54,005 and I'm really excited about this reactor 150 00:06:54,005 --> 00:06:56,334 for essentially two reasons. 151 00:06:56,334 --> 00:06:59,278 One, it doesn't operate at high pressure. 152 00:06:59,278 --> 00:07:02,519 So traditional reactors like a pressurized water reactor 153 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:04,951 or boiling water reactor, they're very, very hot water 154 00:07:04,951 --> 00:07:08,358 at very high pressures, and this means, essentially, 155 00:07:08,358 --> 00:07:11,222 in the event of an accident, if you had any kind of breach 156 00:07:11,222 --> 00:07:14,263 of this stainless steel pressure vessel, 157 00:07:14,263 --> 00:07:16,535 the coolant would leave the core. 158 00:07:16,535 --> 00:07:19,574 These reactors operate at essentially atmospheric pressure, 159 00:07:19,574 --> 00:07:23,480 so there's no inclination for the fission products 160 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,052 to leave the reactor in the event of an accident. 161 00:07:26,052 --> 00:07:28,370 Also, they operate at high temperatures, 162 00:07:28,370 --> 00:07:31,249 and the fuel is molten, so they can't melt down, 163 00:07:31,249 --> 00:07:35,827 but in the event that the reactor ever went out of tolerances, 164 00:07:35,827 --> 00:07:38,137 or you lost off-site power in the case 165 00:07:38,137 --> 00:07:41,327 of something like Fukushima, there's a dump tank. 166 00:07:41,327 --> 00:07:45,798 Because your fuel is liquid, and it's combined with your coolant, 167 00:07:45,798 --> 00:07:48,169 you could actually just drain the core 168 00:07:48,169 --> 00:07:50,350 into what's called a sub-critical setting, 169 00:07:50,350 --> 00:07:52,304 basically a tank underneath the reactor 170 00:07:52,304 --> 00:07:54,264 that has some neutrons absorbers. 171 00:07:54,264 --> 00:07:58,054 And this is really important, because the reaction stops. 172 00:07:58,054 --> 00:08:00,718 In this kind of reactor, you can't do that. 173 00:08:00,718 --> 00:08:04,199 The fuel, like I said, is ceramic inside zirconium fuel rods, 174 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:07,190 and in the event of an accident in one of these type of reactors, 175 00:08:07,190 --> 00:08:09,327 Fukushima and Three Mile Island -- 176 00:08:09,327 --> 00:08:12,222 looking back at Three Mile Island, we didn't really see this for a while — 177 00:08:12,222 --> 00:08:15,708 but these zirconium claddings on these fuel rods, 178 00:08:15,708 --> 00:08:18,537 what happens is, when they see high pressure water, 179 00:08:18,537 --> 00:08:21,094 steam, in an oxidizing environment, 180 00:08:21,094 --> 00:08:23,166 they'll actually produce hydrogen, 181 00:08:23,166 --> 00:08:26,094 and that hydrogen has this explosive capability 182 00:08:26,094 --> 00:08:28,304 to release fission products. 183 00:08:28,304 --> 00:08:30,518 So the core of this reactor, since it's not under pressure 184 00:08:30,518 --> 00:08:32,782 and it doesn't have this chemical reactivity, 185 00:08:32,782 --> 00:08:36,256 means that there's no inclination for the fission products 186 00:08:36,256 --> 00:08:37,990 to leave this reactor. 187 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:40,255 So even in the event of an accident, 188 00:08:40,255 --> 00:08:43,973 yeah, the reactor may be toast, which is, you know, 189 00:08:43,973 --> 00:08:45,632 sorry for the power company, 190 00:08:45,632 --> 00:08:47,732 but we're not going to contaminate large quantities of land. 191 00:08:47,732 --> 00:08:51,744 So I really think that in the, say, 192 00:08:51,744 --> 00:08:53,872 20 years it's going to take us to get fusion 193 00:08:53,872 --> 00:08:56,092 and make fusion a reality, 194 00:08:56,092 --> 00:08:58,673 this could be the source of energy 195 00:08:58,673 --> 00:09:01,347 that provides carbon-free electricity. 196 00:09:01,347 --> 00:09:03,005 Carbon-free electricity. 197 00:09:03,005 --> 00:09:06,350 And it's an amazing technology because 198 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:09,180 not only does it combat climate change, 199 00:09:09,180 --> 00:09:10,684 but it's an innovation. 200 00:09:10,684 --> 00:09:13,751 It's a way to bring power to the developing world, 201 00:09:13,751 --> 00:09:16,230 because it's produced in a factory and it's cheap. 202 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:18,366 You can put them anywhere in the world you want to. 203 00:09:18,366 --> 00:09:21,622 And maybe something else. 204 00:09:21,622 --> 00:09:24,143 As a kid, I was obsessed with space. 205 00:09:24,143 --> 00:09:26,886 Well, I was obsessed with nuclear science too, to a point, 206 00:09:26,886 --> 00:09:29,286 but before that I was obsessed with space, 207 00:09:29,286 --> 00:09:31,197 and I was really excited about, you know, 208 00:09:31,197 --> 00:09:33,071 being an astronaut and designing rockets, 209 00:09:33,071 --> 00:09:35,157 which was something that was always exciting to me. 210 00:09:35,157 --> 00:09:38,563 But I think I get to come back to this, 211 00:09:38,563 --> 00:09:41,864 because imagine having a compact reactor in a rocket 212 00:09:41,864 --> 00:09:44,694 that produces 50 to 100 megawatts. 213 00:09:44,694 --> 00:09:47,971 That is the rocket designer's dream. 214 00:09:47,971 --> 00:09:51,702 That's someone who is designing a habitat on another planet's dream. 215 00:09:51,702 --> 00:09:53,706 Not only do you have 50 to 100 megawatts 216 00:09:53,706 --> 00:09:58,119 to power whatever you want to provide propulsion to get you there, 217 00:09:58,119 --> 00:09:59,518 but you have power once you get there. 218 00:09:59,518 --> 00:10:03,039 You know, rocket designers who use solar panels 219 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:05,998 or fuel cells, I mean a few watts or kilowatts -- 220 00:10:05,998 --> 00:10:07,591 wow, that's a lot of power. 221 00:10:07,591 --> 00:10:10,036 I mean, now we're talking about 100 megawatts. 222 00:10:10,036 --> 00:10:11,209 That's a ton of power. 223 00:10:11,209 --> 00:10:13,496 That could power a Martian community. 224 00:10:13,496 --> 00:10:15,093 That could power a rocket there. 225 00:10:15,093 --> 00:10:17,800 And so I hope that 226 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,921 maybe I'll have an opportunity to kind of explore 227 00:10:19,921 --> 00:10:24,588 my rocketry passion at the same time that I explore my nuclear passion. 228 00:10:24,588 --> 00:10:27,578 And people say, "Oh, well, you've launched this thing, 229 00:10:27,578 --> 00:10:30,142 and it's radioactive, into space, and what about accidents?" 230 00:10:30,142 --> 00:10:33,175 But we launch plutonium batteries all the time. 231 00:10:33,175 --> 00:10:35,294 Everybody was really excited about Curiosity, 232 00:10:35,294 --> 00:10:37,895 and that had this big plutonium battery on board 233 00:10:37,895 --> 00:10:40,014 that has plutonium-238, 234 00:10:40,014 --> 00:10:42,414 which actually has a higher specific activity 235 00:10:42,414 --> 00:10:46,158 than the low-enriched uranium fuel of these molten salt reactors, 236 00:10:46,158 --> 00:10:49,661 which means that the effects would be negligible, 237 00:10:49,661 --> 00:10:51,113 because you launch it cold, 238 00:10:51,113 --> 00:10:54,824 and when it gets into space is where you actually activate this reactor. 239 00:10:54,824 --> 00:10:56,132 So I'm really excited. 240 00:10:56,132 --> 00:10:58,669 I think that I've designed this reactor here 241 00:10:58,669 --> 00:11:02,574 that can be an innovative source of energy, 242 00:11:02,574 --> 00:11:06,255 provide power for all kinds of neat scientific applications, 243 00:11:06,255 --> 00:11:08,783 and I'm really prepared to do this. 244 00:11:08,783 --> 00:11:11,550 I graduated high school in May, and -- 245 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:15,698 (Laughter) (Applause) — 246 00:11:15,698 --> 00:11:17,749 I graduated high school in May, 247 00:11:17,749 --> 00:11:20,589 and I decided that I was going to start up a company 248 00:11:20,589 --> 00:11:22,957 to commercialize these technologies that I've developed, 249 00:11:22,957 --> 00:11:25,814 these revolutionary detectors for scanning cargo containers 250 00:11:25,814 --> 00:11:28,094 and these systems to produce medical isotopes, 251 00:11:28,094 --> 00:11:31,542 but I want to do this, and I've slowly been building up 252 00:11:31,542 --> 00:11:33,795 a team of some of the most incredible people 253 00:11:33,795 --> 00:11:35,982 I've ever had the chance to work with, 254 00:11:35,982 --> 00:11:38,744 and I'm really prepared to make this a reality. 255 00:11:38,744 --> 00:11:41,841 And I think, I think, that looking at the technology, 256 00:11:41,841 --> 00:11:47,191 this will be cheaper than or the same price as natural gas, 257 00:11:47,191 --> 00:11:48,991 and you don't have to refuel it for 30 years, 258 00:11:48,991 --> 00:11:51,718 which is an advantage for the developing world. 259 00:11:51,718 --> 00:11:54,840 And I'll just say one more maybe philosophical thing 260 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,769 to end with, which is weird for a scientist. 261 00:11:56,769 --> 00:11:59,263 But I think there's something really poetic 262 00:11:59,263 --> 00:12:03,062 about using nuclear power to propel us to the stars, 263 00:12:03,062 --> 00:12:05,817 because the stars are giant fusion reactors. 264 00:12:05,817 --> 00:12:08,158 They're giant nuclear cauldrons in the sky. 265 00:12:08,158 --> 00:12:11,555 The energy that I'm able to talk to you today, 266 00:12:11,555 --> 00:12:13,650 while it was converted to chemical energy in my food, 267 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:16,838 originally came from a nuclear reaction, 268 00:12:16,838 --> 00:12:19,614 and so there's something poetic about, in my opinion, 269 00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:22,583 perfecting nuclear fission 270 00:12:22,583 --> 00:12:26,302 and using it as a future source of innovative energy. 271 00:12:26,302 --> 00:12:28,253 So thank you guys. 272 00:12:28,253 --> 00:12:33,238 (Applause)