Caravan of Hope | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon
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0:06 - 0:08Hello! Dear friends all over the world!
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0:08 - 0:11Welcome to this presentation
about my project. -
0:11 - 0:14My and my wife's project.
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0:14 - 0:18It is the struggle for an end
to female genital mutilation; -
0:18 - 0:21in my eyes the greatest crime of humanity,
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0:21 - 0:24since it has been raging for 5,000 years.
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0:24 - 0:30This society against women
still claims 6,000 victims a day. -
0:30 - 0:33First of all, I would like
to introduce myself. -
0:33 - 0:35My name is Rüdiger and
I'm from Hamburg, -
0:35 - 0:39where I ran a confectionery
for 25 years. -
0:39 - 0:43As you can imagine,
it wasn't enough for me. -
0:43 - 0:47I did not feel challenged
and that's why I was glad -
0:47 - 0:50that I was familiar
with the theme of "survival" -
0:50 - 0:53and could bring off exciting campaigns.
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0:53 - 0:56For example this one, over the Atlantic
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0:56 - 0:59from Africa to Brazil
with a massive tree trunk. -
0:59 - 1:04The sail was an appeal
to the President of Brazil -
1:04 - 1:07to prevent the impending genocide
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1:07 - 1:10of the last of the isolated tribes,
the Yanomami. -
1:10 - 1:15On that trip, I was
more of a submarine than an up boat. -
1:15 - 1:18More submerged than on the surface.
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1:18 - 1:23However, such campaigns were perfect
for generating media interest, -
1:23 - 1:26and even a small person like myself
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1:26 - 1:30could raise his concerns
to the whole world. -
1:30 - 1:33In 1977, I crossed the Danakil desert
in Ethiopia -
1:34 - 1:36with my own caravan.
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1:36 - 1:40At that time, there was a war going on
between Eritrea and Ethiopia -
1:40 - 1:43and we were eyewitnesses
to the murders there. -
1:43 - 1:48Despite all the atrocities we saw,
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1:48 - 1:50we, on the other hand, also found
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1:50 - 1:55endless hospitality from the Muslims
who accompanied us. -
1:55 - 1:58Bedouin, Arab hospitality.
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1:59 - 2:02Twice it happened that we were attacked,
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2:02 - 2:06and our two bodyguards, whom you see here,
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2:06 - 2:08clawed their way in front of us,
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2:08 - 2:11and, using their bodies as living shields,
said to our attackers, -
2:11 - 2:12"These are our guests.
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2:12 - 2:16If you want to kill them,
you'll have to shoot them through us." -
2:16 - 2:21I've not found anything of the sort
in any other culture. -
2:21 - 2:23So, I learnt then at an early age
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2:23 - 2:26that you cannot equate Islam to terrorism.
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2:26 - 2:31Christians do not wish
to be associated with terrorism, either; -
2:31 - 2:37e.g., the Inquisition, the Crusades,
the extermination of Native Americans, -
2:37 - 2:40but rather with true values,
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2:40 - 2:44like charity, social responsibility,
the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. -
2:45 - 2:48These are values worth fighting for.
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2:48 - 2:53After many years, I returned
to the Danakil desert, -
2:53 - 2:55together with my wife, Annette,
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2:55 - 2:58and that's when we heard about
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2:58 - 3:02this crime of madness,
female genital mutilation. -
3:02 - 3:07When I then heard that 90%
of the daily victims are Muslim -
3:07 - 3:10-- the rest are Christians
and those of other convictions -- -
3:10 - 3:13I thought: How can
a world religion like Islam, -
3:13 - 3:17along with all the terrorism,
allow itself to take the blame for this, -
3:17 - 3:19without putting up any resistance?
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3:19 - 3:22And the idea was born
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3:22 - 3:26to try to persuade the highest
decision makers of Islam -
3:26 - 3:29to declare the custom a sin.
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3:29 - 3:33We searched for fellow campaigners
among German organizations. -
3:33 - 3:34We didn't find any.
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3:34 - 3:36We were repeatedly told
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3:36 - 3:38that we were probably completely nuts,
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3:38 - 3:40that Islam is not open to dialogue,
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3:40 - 3:42that they'd cut my throat.
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3:42 - 3:46On the advice of Amnesty International,
and without further ado, -
3:46 - 3:49we then established our own organization
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3:49 - 3:53independent of cowards and worrywarts.
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3:54 - 3:58Now, in order to stand a chance
of winning this fight, -
3:58 - 4:02we needed pictures --
something we didn't have. -
4:02 - 4:06That's why Annette and I
went back to this desert, -
4:06 - 4:10to take pictures with a hidden camera.
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4:10 - 4:13I won't show you the horrid, bloody images
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4:13 - 4:15but I would like
to briefly outline the crime. -
4:16 - 4:19Girls from the age of 4 weeks
up till their wedding -
4:19 - 4:23are at some point grabbed
by their parents and relatives, -
4:23 - 4:26laid on the ground,
and with their limbs pinned down, -
4:26 - 4:28have their clitoris and labia cut away,
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4:28 - 4:30without any anaesthesia,
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4:30 - 4:33and have their vagina sewn up
with a blunt needle, -
4:33 - 4:37without anaesthesia,
with absurd instruments, -
4:37 - 4:40by people with no knowledge
of hygiene or anatomy. -
4:42 - 4:45The vagina is to heal over, closed.
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4:45 - 4:50What they are then left with
is an opening the size of a grain of rice. -
4:50 - 4:52Urination now takes a quarter of an hour.
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4:52 - 4:55When they get their period
they are in torment for 2 weeks. -
4:56 - 5:02Unimaginably destroyed both spiritually
and bodily, deprived of their dignity. -
5:02 - 5:06That's the beginning
of the so-called pharaonic mutilation; -
5:06 - 5:09on the wedding night, it goes further.
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5:09 - 5:10The man needs to open her.
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5:10 - 5:13He has never seen a naked woman before.
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5:13 - 5:15His uncles have told him,
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5:15 - 5:16"Oh, Ibrahim, it's no big deal;
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5:16 - 5:21you put some Vaseline on your penis
and then you push it through hard. -
5:21 - 5:23If you don't succeed,
you don't need to worry, -
5:23 - 5:26you take a knife and cut through."
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5:26 - 5:28That is pharaonic mutilation.
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5:28 - 5:31One-third of the girls die in the process.
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5:31 - 5:34This one was mutilated 3 months ago.
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5:34 - 5:37Shock caused the girl to lose her speech.
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5:37 - 5:41These are the countries where mutilation
takes place, there are also some in Asia. -
5:41 - 5:44Most are under Islamic rule.
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5:44 - 5:48Whenever we've asked Muslims,
"Why do you do this?", -
5:48 - 5:50the most frequent answer is,
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5:50 - 5:53"Ah, we have to do it,
it's in the Qur'an." -
5:53 - 5:55There's nothing in the Qur'an about it.
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5:55 - 5:57Quite the opposite;
every believer acknowledges -
5:57 - 6:00five times a day in prayer
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6:00 - 6:02the singular majesty of Allah the creator.
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6:02 - 6:05Allah is perfect, faultless.
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6:05 - 6:07But they don't seem to believe
what they are praying. -
6:07 - 6:12They make Allah out to be a fool
who created women wrong. -
6:12 - 6:15That's how you make yourself
a pathetic excuse of a human being, -
6:15 - 6:18who cuts women about.
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6:18 - 6:20But now we had the pictures.
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6:20 - 6:23Our first fellow campaigner
was this sultan. -
6:23 - 6:28He let us get all his clan leaders
together for a conference. -
6:28 - 6:30There was hard discussion for two days,
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6:30 - 6:34but we had the Minister of Health
on our side, -
6:34 - 6:36the highest sheikhs on our side.
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6:36 - 6:39Then came the great decision:
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6:39 - 6:44"This practice is against all human rights
and against our religion. -
6:44 - 6:46We must ban it."
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6:46 - 6:52In the end, the sultan signed
this new tribal law. -
6:52 - 6:55If you know Africa
and the tribal customs, -
6:55 - 6:59you'll know that only sultan-backed law
has meaning for these people. -
7:01 - 7:06The new law was celebrated, and we had
similar success in other countries. -
7:06 - 7:08Another quick example: Mauritania.
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7:08 - 7:11There, the highest priest,
the Grand Mufti of the country, -
7:11 - 7:13graced us with the message
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7:13 - 7:15that it was a crime
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7:15 - 7:20to be written on banners
and taken to the oases. -
7:20 - 7:23We were on the road for weeks
with our own camels. -
7:23 - 7:27We had a hundred flags,
and wherever we went, -
7:27 - 7:30we found only a sympathetic ear, open arms
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7:30 - 7:34and historic, sacred hospitality.
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7:34 - 7:37When eventually we wanted
to leave the country, -
7:37 - 7:40the great scholar and Grand Mufti said,
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7:40 - 7:44"Rüdiger, will you really
cover all 35 countries? -
7:44 - 7:48Allah will not give you enough time."
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7:48 - 7:49He was right.
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7:49 - 7:53I'm 80 and action is needed now.
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7:53 - 7:56Above all he had an idea and said,
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7:56 - 7:59"If you could bring
the ten highest Muslims of the world -
7:59 - 8:04to a table and have them declare
the custom a sin, -
8:04 - 8:06then it will be a sin."
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8:06 - 8:11Annette and I flew to Cairo
to the Al-Azhar University and mosque, -
8:11 - 8:13comparable to the Vatican for Catholics.
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8:13 - 8:18We were granted a private audience
with the highest authority -
8:18 - 8:23on theological law, the Grand Mufti,
His Eminence Prof. Dr. Ali Gomaa. -
8:23 - 8:28He listened to the idea and loved it,
especially when we guaranteed him -
8:28 - 8:30that we would fund it,
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8:30 - 8:34which we do with the support of sponsors.
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8:34 - 8:40Then he said,
"I will not only moderate the conference," -
8:40 - 8:42which we had asked him to do,
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8:42 - 8:45"but I'll assume the patronage."
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8:45 - 8:46That he has done.
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8:46 - 8:52At some point in 2006, our banners
fluttered over Cairo. -
8:52 - 8:57"The International Conference for
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8:57 - 9:00Preventing the Violation of Women's Bodies
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9:00 - 9:04sponsored by the Grand Mufti of Egypt,
Prof. Dr. Ali Gomaa." -
9:04 - 9:10Everyone came; there were 100 bodyguards,
the highest-ranking in the world. -
9:10 - 9:14In the middle: the Grand Sheikh of Qatar.
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9:14 - 9:19This man is forbidden entry
to Hamburg and the rest of Europe. -
9:19 - 9:24He's at the center of the Danish
Muhammad cartoons controversy. -
9:24 - 9:27In other words, these are men
who decide between life and death. -
9:27 - 9:31But others came, too.
To the left, the Grand Sheikh al-Azhar. -
9:31 - 9:35To the right, the Minister for Religion,
my patron. -
9:35 - 9:39The highest in the world,
above whom I, a simpleton, -
9:39 - 9:43place no one, except Allah.
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9:43 - 9:47I welcomed them all,
and the conference began. -
9:47 - 9:50Under our banner on
the representatives' table from the left: -
9:50 - 9:53The Grand Mufti of Egypt,
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9:53 - 9:57the Grand Sheikh al-Azhar,
Egypt's Minister for Religion, -
9:57 - 10:00the ambassadress extraordinary
of Mrs. Mubarak, -
10:00 - 10:03and Rüdiger, the bakery chain owner
from Germany. -
10:03 - 10:08So much for Islam not being
open to dialogue. -
10:08 - 10:13We had also invited medics,
who, in their way, made clear -
10:13 - 10:17the horrors being done to women
with female genital mutilation. -
10:17 - 10:23Then Annette was allowed to show her film.
Unprettified. Raw reality. -
10:23 - 10:26The men's eyes were moist,
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10:26 - 10:28they withdrew behind closed doors.
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10:28 - 10:32A decision was reached after only 2 hours,
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10:32 - 10:36and a "fatwa," a legal declaration,
was written. -
10:36 - 10:40The Mufti went before the cameras
and announced what had been decided. -
10:40 - 10:43The most important sentence was this one:
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10:43 - 10:46"Female genital mutilation
is a punishable crime -
10:46 - 10:50that breaches
the highest values of Islam." -
10:50 - 10:55He signed the fatwa
and we thought the job was done -- -
10:55 - 10:58but there was something
we hadn't reckoned with. -
10:58 - 11:01Because the shame of speaking
about women's genitalia -
11:01 - 11:05has remained stronger than any reason.
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11:05 - 11:07That's why we followed up.
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11:07 - 11:10We documented the conference
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11:10 - 11:13in this so-called Golden Book.
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11:13 - 11:17A preacher's guide
for the imams of this world. -
11:17 - 11:20Because Ali Gomaa, the patron,
liked the book so much, -
11:20 - 11:23he blessed it with a preface.
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11:23 - 11:26People couldn't wait
to get their hands on a copy. -
11:26 - 11:30We went to many countries,
where we held conferences -
11:30 - 11:33with the highest clerics.
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11:33 - 11:36They read the book with interest.
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11:36 - 11:40Some were so enthralled
that they kissed it. -
11:40 - 11:43Unfortunately, most did not
have the courage -
11:43 - 11:46to spread the word.
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11:46 - 11:50"One may not speak of women's genitalia
in the mosque." -
11:50 - 11:52Only a few managed to gather
the courage to speak out. -
11:52 - 11:55But they did at least go
to the universities, -
11:55 - 11:58to the market places, and sometimes
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11:58 - 12:02we even found some brave imams
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12:02 - 12:05who preached about it
in the mosque, as you see here, -
12:05 - 12:09where it's broadcast
over the loudspeakers -
12:09 - 12:11to where the women are segregated.
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12:11 - 12:14They are the affected ones.
They will spread the message. -
12:14 - 12:17But I'm running out of time.
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12:17 - 12:20It's all a drop in the bucket.
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12:20 - 12:23That's why I work
on many other strategies, -
12:23 - 12:27to get the message through,
to abolish this custom. -
12:27 - 12:32My ultimate vision would be this:
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12:32 - 12:34That this message be proclaimed
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12:34 - 12:39by the world's highest religious figures,
and in the birthplace of Islam, -
12:39 - 12:43that is, here at the Kaaba in Mecca.
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12:43 - 12:47Not on any old dreary pilgrim day,
but during the main pilgrimage period -
12:47 - 12:50when 4 million people come together here.
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12:50 - 12:54Men and women, hostile Islamic movements.
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12:54 - 12:58Then, with all those and the Saudi king,
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12:58 - 13:01I'd like to stretch my banner up there
between the minarets -
13:01 - 13:06just as you see in my trial run
in the photo montage. -
13:06 - 13:09Unfortunately, I lack the support
of the last remaining collaborator, -
13:09 - 13:12the Saudi King, but I'm sure
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13:12 - 13:15if he found out about it,
he would join in. -
13:15 - 13:19For one thing, to help these women;
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13:19 - 13:21for another, to show the world
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13:21 - 13:24what the true values of Islam are,
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13:24 - 13:26instead of being constantly being made
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13:26 - 13:30to look like a criminal organization,
thanks to terrorists. -
13:30 - 13:33If I can't do that,
then perhaps I can do this, -
13:33 - 13:35something already started in Hamburg,
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13:35 - 13:40which at least many imams in mosques
around the world might follow in doing, -
13:40 - 13:44and we can stretch out our banners there.
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13:44 - 13:48Maybe I'll live to see the day
when this little girl grows up -
13:48 - 13:51and doesn't have to maim her daughters.
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13:51 - 13:54Then my life will really
have been worthwhile. -
13:54 - 13:57I would like to appeal to anyone
who has now heard -
13:57 - 14:00or seen this talk, to take part.
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14:00 - 14:03Not taking part is itself complicity.
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14:03 - 14:06I will not step down from the stage
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14:06 - 14:10until we eliminate this practice.
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14:10 - 14:12Now, I would like finally
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14:12 - 14:16to show the design for my banner.
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14:16 - 14:18This is Annette, my co-campaigner.
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14:19 - 14:20And this is...
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14:20 - 14:21(Applause)
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14:28 - 14:32In the main languages of the world,
with Arabic at the top. -
14:32 - 14:36[Arabic]
In the name of Allah. -
14:38 - 14:40Most gracious and most merciful.
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14:41 - 14:42That one has to be on top.
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14:42 - 14:44Down below we also have it
in German: -
14:44 - 14:48Female genital mutilation
is incompatible with the Qur'an -
14:48 - 14:51and the ethics of Islam.
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14:51 - 14:55It is a usurpation of God
and discrimination of Islam. -
14:56 - 14:57Thank you very much.
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14:57 - 14:59(Applause)
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15:06 - 15:08Thank you very much.
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15:08 - 15:10(Applause)
- Title:
- Caravan of Hope | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon
- Description:
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Rüdiger Nehberg and his human rights organization, Target, fight the crime of female genital mutilation (FGM). He seeks to put an end to a terrible tradition that kills thousands of girls and women every year. In his talk, he shares his incredible journey through the deserts and boardrooms of Arab countries, and shows how he successfully promotes his ideas within the Islamic world, and in close cooperation with Islam.
Rüdiger Nehberg, also known as “Sir Vival”, is a famous German survival expert and human rights activist. His organization, Target (www.target-nehberg.de), serves as an interface between critics and supporters.
- Video Language:
- German
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 15:17
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon | ||
Camille Martínez approved English subtitles for Karawane der Hoffnung | Rüdiger Nehberg | TEDxTUHHSalon |
Robert Tucker
At ~06:00 I realize "einmalig" would generally mean "the one and only" in this context but wonder that it's not his mercy in that respect that was meant in the talk, his mercy being, of course, highly prevalent in the Qur'an and, I guess therefore, in daily prayers.
Retired user
Hi Robert,
Thank you so much for your valuable translation. I would like to suggest a few small changes to convey the German meaning a little more.
Around 03:10 I had to adapt the timing of several subtitles to make space for the change at 03:10.
04:52 "sich quälen" is not so much about physical pain, more like discomfort and inconvenience (because it takes so long)
07:49 He is hinting at this age
Please tell me what you think about it. Thanks again for your fast translation!
Best wishes, Johanna
Retired user
At 06:00 how about 'incomparable'?