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The surprising seeds of a big-data revolution in healthcare | Joel Selanikio | TEDxAustin

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    There's an old joke about a cop
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    who's walking his beat
    in the middle of the night,
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    and he comes across a guy
    under a street lamp
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    who's looking at the ground
    and moving from side to side,
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    and the cop asks him what he's doing.
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    The guys says he's looking for his keys.
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    So the cop takes his time
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    and looks over and kind of
    makes a little matrix
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    and looks for about two, three minutes.
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    No keys.
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    The cop says, "Are you sure?
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    Hey buddy, are you sure
    you lost your keys here?"
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    And the guy says,
    "No, actually I lost them
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    down at the other end of the street,
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    but the light is better here."
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    (Laughter)
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    There's a concept that people talk
    about nowadays called "big data."
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    And what they're talking
    about is all of the information
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    that we're generating
    through our interaction
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    with and over the Internet,
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    everything from Facebook and Twitter
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    to music downloads, movies,
    streaming, all this kind of stuff,
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    the live streaming of TED.
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    And the folks who work
    with big data, for them,
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    they talk about that their biggest problem
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    is we have so much information.
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    The biggest problem is: how do we
    organize all that information?
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    I can tell you that,
    working in global health,
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    that is not our biggest problem.
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    Because for us, even though
    the light is better on the Internet,
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    the data that would help us solve
    the problems we're trying to solve
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    is not actually present on the Internet.
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    So we don't know, for example,
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    how many people right now
    are being affected by disasters
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    or by conflict situations.
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    We don't know for, really,
    basically, any of the clinics
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    in the developing world,
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    which ones have medicines
    and which ones don't.
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    We have no idea of what
    the supply chain is for those clinics.
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    We don't know -- and this is really
    amazing to me -- we don't know
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    how many children were born --
    or how many children there are --
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    in Bolivia or Botswana or Bhutan.
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    We don't know how many kids died last week
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    in any of those countries.
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    We don't know the needs
    of the elderly, the mentally ill.
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    For all of these different
    critically important problems
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    or critically important areas
    that we want to solve problems in,
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    we basically know nothing at all.
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    And part of the reason
    why we don't know anything at all
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    is that the information technology systems
    that we use in global health
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    to find the data to solve
    these problems is what you see here.
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    This is about a 5,000-year-old technology.
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    Some of you may have used it before.
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    It's kind of on its way out now,
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    but we still use it
    for 99 percent of our stuff.
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    This is a paper form.
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    And what you're looking at is a paper form
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    in the hand of a Ministry of Health
    nurse in Indonesia,
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    who is tramping out across the countryside
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    in Indonesia on, I'm sure,
    a very hot and humid day,
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    and she is going to be knocking
    on thousands of doors
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    over a period of weeks or months,
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    knocking on the doors and saying,
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    "Excuse me, we'd like to ask
    you some questions.
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    Do you have any children?
    Were your children vaccinated?"
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    Because the only way
    we can actually find out
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    how many children were vaccinated
    in the country of Indonesia,
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    what percentage were vaccinated,
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    is actually not on the Internet,
    but by going out and knocking on doors,
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    sometimes tens of thousands of doors.
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    Sometimes it takes months to even years
    to do something like this.
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    You know, a census of Indonesia
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    would probably take
    two years to accomplish.
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    And the problem, of course,
    with all of this
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    is that, with all those paper forms --
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    and I'm telling you, we have
    paper forms for every possible thing:
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    We have paper forms
    for vaccination surveys.
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    We have paper forms to track
    people who come into clinics.
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    We have paper forms to track
    drug supplies, blood supplies --
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    all these different paper forms
    for many different topics,
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    they all have a single, common endpoint,
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    and the common endpoint
    looks something like this.
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    And what we're looking
    at here is a truckful of data.
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    This is the data from a single
    vaccination coverage survey
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    in a single district
    in the country of Zambia
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    from a few years ago,
    that I participated in.
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    The only thing anyone
    was trying to find out
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    is what percentage of Zambian
    children are vaccinated,
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    and this is the data,
    collected on paper over weeks,
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    from a single district,
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    which is something like a county
    in the United States.
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    You can imagine that,
    for the entire country of Zambia,
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    answering just that single question ...
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    looks something like this.
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    Truck after truck after truck,
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    filled with stack after stack
    after stack of data.
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    And what makes it even worse
    is that's just the beginning.
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    Because once you've collected
    all that data,
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    of course, someone --
    some unfortunate person --
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    is going to have to type that
    into a computer.
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    When I was a graduate student,
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    I actually was that unfortunate
    person sometimes.
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    I can tell you, I often wasn't
    really paying attention.
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    I probably made a lot
    of mistakes when I did it
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    that no one ever discovered,
    so data quality goes down.
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    But eventually that data, hopefully,
    gets typed into a computer,
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    and someone can begin to analyze it,
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    and once they have
    an analysis and a report,
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    hopefully, then you can take
    the results of that data collection
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    and use it to vaccinate children better.
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    Because if there's anything worse
    in the field of global public health --
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    I don't know what's worse
    than allowing children on this planet
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    to die of vaccine-preventable diseases --
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    diseases for which
    the vaccine costs a dollar.
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    And millions of children die
    of these diseases every year.
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    And the fact is, millions
    is a gross estimate,
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    because we don't really know
    how many kids die each year of this.
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    What makes it even more frustrating
    is that the data-entry part,
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    the part that I used to do
    as a grad student,
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    can take sometimes six months.
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    Sometimes it can take two years
    to type that information into a computer,
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    And sometimes, actually not infrequently,
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    it actually never happens.
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    Now try and wrap your head
    around that for a second.
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    You just had teams of hundreds of people.
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    They went out into the field
    to answer a particular question.
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    You probably spent hundreds
    of thousands of dollars
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    on fuel and photocopying and per diem.
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    And then for some reason, momentum is lost
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    or there's no money left,
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    and all of that comes to nothing,
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    because no one actually types it
    into the computer at all.
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    The process just stops.
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    Happens all the time.
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    This is what we base
    our decisions on in global health:
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    little data, old data, no data.
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    So back in 1995,
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    I began to think about ways
    in which we could improve this process.
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    Now 1995 -- obviously,
    that was quite a long time ago.
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    It kind of frightens me to think
    of how long ago that was.
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    The top movie of the year
    was "Die Hard with a Vengeance."
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    As you can see, Bruce Willis
    had a lot more hair back then.
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    I was working in the Centers
    for Disease Control
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    and I had a lot more
    hair back then as well.
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    But to me, the most significant
    thing that I saw in 1995
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    was this.
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    Hard for us to imagine, but in 1995,
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    this was the ultimate elite mobile device.
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    It wasn't an iPhone.
    It wasn't a Galaxy phone.
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    It was a PalmPilot.
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    And when I saw the PalmPilot
    for the first time, I thought,
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    "Why can't we put the forms
    on these PalmPilots?
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    And go out into the field
    just carrying one PalmPilot,
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    which can hold the capacity
    of tens of thousands of paper forms?
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    Why don't we try to do that?
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    Because if we can do that,
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    if we can actually just collect
    the data electronically, digitally,
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    from the very beginning,
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    we can just put a shortcut right
    through that whole process
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    of typing, of having somebody type
    that stuff into the computer.
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    We can skip straight to the analysis
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    and then straight to the use
    of the data to actually save lives."
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    So that's what I began to do.
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    Working at CDC, I began to travel
    to different programs around the world
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    and to train them in using
    PalmPilots to do data collection,
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    instead of using paper.
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    And it actually worked great.
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    It worked exactly as well
    as anybody would have predicted.
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    What do you know?
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    Digital data collection is actually
    more efficient than collecting on paper.
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    While I was doing it, my business partner,
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    Rose, who's here with her husband,
    Matthew, here in the audience,
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    Rose was out doing similar stuff
    for the American Red Cross.
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    The problem was,
    after a few years of doing that,
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    I realized -- I had been to maybe
    six or seven programs --
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    and I thought, you know,
    if I keep this up at this pace,
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    over my whole career,
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    maybe I'm going to go
    to maybe 20 or 30 programs.
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    But the problem is, 20 or 30 programs,
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    like, training 20 or 30 programs
    to use this technology,
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    that is a tiny drop in the bucket.
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    The demand for this, the need
    for data to run better programs
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    just within health -- not to mention
    all of the other fields
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    in developing countries -- is enormous.
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    There are millions and millions
    and millions of programs,
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    millions of clinics
    that need to track drugs,
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    millions of vaccine programs.
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    There are schools
    that need to track attendance.
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    There are all these different things
    for us to get the data that we need to do.
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    And I realized if I kept up
    the way that I was doing,
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    I was basically hardly
    going to make any impact
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    by the end of my career.
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    And so I began to rack my brain,
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    trying to think about, what
    was the process that I was doing?
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    How was I training folks,
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    and what were the bottlenecks
    and what were the obstacles
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    to doing it faster
    and to doing it more efficiently?
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    And, unfortunately, after thinking
    about this for some time,
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    I identified the main obstacle.
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    And the main obstacle, it turned out --
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    and this is a sad realization --
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    the main obstacle was me.
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    So what do I mean by that?
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    I had developed a process
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    whereby I was the center
    of the universe of this technology.
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    If you wanted to use this technology,
    you had to get in touch with me.
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    That means you had to know I existed.
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    Then you had to find the money
    to pay for me to fly out to your country
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    and the money to pay for my hotel
    and my per diem and my daily rate.
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    So you could be talking
    about 10- or 20- or 30,000 dollars,
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    if I actually had the time
    or it fit my schedule
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    and I wasn't on vacation.
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    The point is that anything,
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    any system that depends
    on a single human being
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    or two or three or five human beings --
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    it just doesn't scale.
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    And this is a problem for which
    we need to scale this technology,
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    and we need to scale it now.
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    And so I began to think of ways
    in which I could basically
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    take myself out of the picture.
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    And, you know, I was thinking,
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    "How could I take myself
    out of the picture?"
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    for quite some time.
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    I'd been trained that the way
    you distribute technology
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    within international development
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    is always consultant-based.
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    It's always guys
    that look pretty much like me,
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    flying from countries
    that look pretty much like this
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    to other countries
    with people with darker skin.
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    And you go out there,
    and you spend money on airfare
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    and you spend time and you spend per diem
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    and you spend for a hotel
    and all that stuff.
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    As far as I knew, that was the only way
    you could distribute technology,
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    and I couldn't figure out a way around it.
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    But the miracle that happened --
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    I'm going to call it Hotmail for short.
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    You may not think of Hotmail
    as being miraculous,
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    but for me it was miraculous,
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    because I noticed, just as I
    was wrestling with this problem --
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    I was working in sub-Saharan
    Africa, mostly, at the time --
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    I noticed that every sub-Saharan
    African health worker
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    that I was working with
    had a Hotmail account.
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    And it struck me, "Wait a minute --
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    I know the Hotmail people surely didn't
    fly to the Ministry of Health in Kenya
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    to train people in how to use Hotmail.
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    So these guys are distributing technology,
    getting software capacity out there,
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    but they're not actually
    flying around the world.
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    I need to think about this more."
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    While I was thinking about it,
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    people started using even more
    things like this, just as we were.
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    They started using LinkedIn and Flickr
    and Gmail and Google Maps --
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    all these things.
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    Of course, all of these things
    are cloud based
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    and don't require any training.
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    They don't require any programmers.
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    They don't require consultants.
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    Because the business model
    for all these businesses
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    requires that something be so simple
    we can use it ourselves,
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    with little or no training.
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    You just have to hear about it
    and go to the website.
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    And so I thought, what would happen
    if we built software
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    to do what I'd been consulting in?
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    Instead of training people
    how to put forms onto mobile devices,
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    let's create software that lets them
    do it themselves with no training
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    and without me being involved.
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    And that's exactly what we did.
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    So we created software called Magpi,
    which has an online form creator.
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    No one has to speak to me,
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    you just have to hear about it
    and go to the website.
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    You can create forms,
    and once you've created the forms,
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    you push them to a variety
    of common mobile phones.
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    Obviously, nowadays, we've moved
    past PalmPilots to mobile phones.
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    And it doesn't have to be a smartphone,
    it can be a basic phone,
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    like the phone on the right,
    the basic Symbian phone
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    that's very common
    in developing countries.
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    And the great part about this
    is it's just like Hotmail.
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    It's cloud based,
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    and it doesn't require any training,
    programming, consultants.
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    But there are some
    additional benefits as well.
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    Now we knew when we built this system,
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    the whole point of it,
    just like with the PalmPilots,
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    was that you'd be able to collect the data
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    and immediately upload
    the data and get your data set.
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    But what we found, of course,
    since it's already on a computer,
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    we can deliver instant maps
    and analysis and graphing.
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    We can take a process that took two years
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    and compress that
    down to the space of five minutes.
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    Unbelievable improvements in efficiency.
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    Cloud based, no training,
    no consultants, no me.
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    And I told you that in the first few years
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    of trying to do this
    the old-fashioned way,
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    going out to each country,
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    we probably trained about 1,000 people.
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    What happened after we did this?
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    In the second three years,
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    we had 14,000 people find the website,
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    sign up and start using it
    to collect data:
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    data for disaster response,
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    Canadian pig farmers
    tracking pig disease and pig herds,
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    people tracking drug supplies.
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    One of my favorite examples, the IRC,
    International Rescue Committee,
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    they have a program
    where semi-literate midwives,
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    using $10 mobile phones,
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    send a text message
    using our software, once a week,
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    with the number of births
    and the number of deaths,
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    which gives IRC something that no one
    in global health has ever had:
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    a near-real-time system
    of counting babies,
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    of knowing how many kids are born,
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    of knowing how many children
    there are in Sierra Leone,
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    which is the country
    where this is happening,
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    and knowing how many children die.
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    Physicians for Human Rights --
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    this is moving a little bit
    outside the health field --
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    they're basically training people
    to do rape exams in Congo,
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    where this is an epidemic,
  • 14:24 - 14:25
    a horrible epidemic,
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    and they're using our software
    to document the evidence they find,
  • 14:28 - 14:31
    including photographically,
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    so that they can bring
    the perpetrators to justice.
  • 14:34 - 14:38
    Camfed, another charity
    based out of the UK --
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    Camfed pays girls' families
    to keep them in school.
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    They understand this is the most
    significant intervention they can make.
  • 14:45 - 14:49
    They used to track the disbursements,
    the attendance, the grades, on paper.
  • 14:49 - 14:52
    The turnaround time between a teacher
    writing down grades or attendance
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    and getting that into a report
    was about two to three years.
  • 14:55 - 14:56
    Now it's real time.
  • 14:56 - 14:59
    And because this is such a low-cost
    system and based in the cloud,
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    it costs, for the entire five countries
    that Camfed runs this in,
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    with tens of thousands of girls,
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    the whole cost combined
    is 10,000 dollars a year.
  • 15:09 - 15:11
    That's less than I used to get
  • 15:11 - 15:14
    just traveling out for two weeks
    to do a consultation.
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    So I told you before that when
    we were doing it the old-fashioned way,
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    I realized all of our work was really
    adding up to just a drop in the bucket --
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    10, 20, 30 different programs.
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    We've made a lot of progress,
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    but I recognize that right now,
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    even the work that we've done
    with 14,000 people using this
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    is still a drop in the bucket.
  • 15:33 - 15:36
    But something's changed,
    and I think it should be obvious.
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    What's changed now is,
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    instead of having a program
    in which we're scaling at such a slow rate
  • 15:42 - 15:45
    that we can never reach
    all the people who need us,
  • 15:45 - 15:48
    we've made it unnecessary
    for people to get reached by us.
  • 15:48 - 15:53
    We've created a tool
    that lets programs keep kids in school,
  • 15:53 - 15:57
    track the number of babies that are born
    and the number of babies that die,
  • 15:57 - 16:01
    catch criminals and successfully
    prosecute them --
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    to do all these different things
    to learn more about what's going on,
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    to understand more,
  • 16:07 - 16:08
    to see more ...
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    and to save lives and improve lives.
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    Thank you.
  • 16:15 - 16:17
    (Applause)
Title:
The surprising seeds of a big-data revolution in healthcare | Joel Selanikio | TEDxAustin
Description:

Collecting global health data was an imperfect science: Workers tramped through villages to knock on doors and ask questions, wrote the answers on paper forms, then input the data -- and from this gappy information, countries would make huge decisions. Data geek Joel Selanikio talks through the sea change in collecting health data in the past decade -- starting with the Palm Pilot and Hotmail, and now moving into the cloud.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
16:22

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