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A lab the size of a postage stamp

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    The problem I want to talk with you
    about is really the problem of:
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    How does one supply health care
    in a world in which cost is everything?
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    How do you do that?
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    And the basic paradigm
    we want to suggest to you,
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    I want to suggest to you,
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    is one in which you say
    that in order to treat disease,
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    you have to first know
    what you're treating, that's diagnostics,
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    and then you have to do something.
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    The program we're involved in is something
    we call "Diagnostics for All,"
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    or "zero-cost diagnostics."
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    How do you provide medically
    relevant information
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    at as close as possible to zero cost?
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    How do you do it?
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    Let me just give you two examples.
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    The rigors of military medicine are not
    so dissimilar from the third world:
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    poor resources, a rigorous environment --
    a series of problems --
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    light weight and things of this kind.
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    And also they're not so different
    from the home health care
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    and diagnostic system world.
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    So, the technology I want to talk
    about is for the third world,
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    for the developing world,
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    but it has, I think,
    much broader application,
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    because information is so important
    in the health care system.
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    So you see two examples here.
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    One is a lab that is actually
    a fairly high-end laboratory in Africa.
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    The second is basically an entrepreneur
    who is set up and doing who-knows-what
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    at a table in a market.
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    I don't know what kind
    of health care is delivered there.
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    But it's not really
    what is probably most efficient.
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    What is our approach?
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    The way in which one typically
    approaches a problem of lowering cost,
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    starting from the perspective
    of the United States,
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    is to take our solution,
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    and then try to cut cost out of it.
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    No matter how you do that,
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    you're not going to start
    with a $100,000 instrument
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    and bring it down to no cost.
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    It isn't going to work.
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    So the approach we took
    was the other way around, to ask:
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    What is the cheapest possible stuff
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    that you could make
    a diagnostic system out of,
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    and get useful information
    and add function?
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    And what we've chosen is paper.
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    What you see here is a prototypic device.
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    It's about a centimeter on the side.
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    It's about the size of a fingernail.
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    The lines around the edges are a polymer.
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    It's made of paper.
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    And paper, of course, wicks fluid,
    as you know, paper, cloth --
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    drop wine on the tablecloth,
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    and the wine wicks all over everything.
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    Put it on your shirt, it ruins the shirt.
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    That's what a hydrophilic surface does.
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    So in this device, the idea
    is that you drip the bottom end of it
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    in a drop of, in this case, urine.
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    The fluid wicks its way
    into those chambers at the top.
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    The brown color indicates
    the amount of glucose in the urine,
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    the blue color indicates the amount
    of protein in the urine.
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    And the combination of those two
    is a first-order shot
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    at a number of useful things
    that you want.
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    So, this is an example of a device
    made from a simple piece of paper.
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    Now, how simple can you make
    the production?
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    Why do we choose paper?
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    There's an example
    of the same thing on a finger,
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    showing you basically what it looks like.
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    One reason for using paper
    is that it's everywhere.
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    We have made these kinds of devices
    using napkins and toilet paper
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    and wraps, and all kinds of stuff.
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    So the production capability is there.
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    The second is, you can put lots and lots
    of tests in a very small place.
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    I'll show you in a moment
    that the stack of paper there
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    would probably hold
    something like 100,000 tests,
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    something of that kind.
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    And then finally, a point
    you don't think of so much
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    in developed world medicine:
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    it eliminates sharps.
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    And what sharps means
    is needles, things that stick.
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    If you've taken a sample
    of someone's blood
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    and the someone might have hepatitis C,
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    you don't want to make a mistake
    and stick it in you.
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    You don't want to do that.
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    So how do you dispose of that?
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    It's a problem everywhere,
    and here, you simply burn it.
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    So it's a sort of a practical approach
    to starting on things.
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    Now, you say, "If paper is a good idea,
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    other people have surely thought of it."
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    And the answer is, of course, yes.
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    Those half of you, roughly, who are women,
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    at some point may have had
    a pregnancy test.
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    And the most common of these
    is in a device
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    that looks like the thing on the left.
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    It's something called
    a lateral-flow immunoassay.
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    In that particular test,
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    urine, either containing
    a hormone called hCG,
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    does or does not flow
    across a piece of paper.
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    And there are two bars; one bar
    indicates that the test is working,
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    and if the second bar shows up,
    you're pregnant.
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    This is a terrific kind of test
    in a binary world,
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    and the nice thing about pregnancy
    is either you are pregnant
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    or you're not pregnant;
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    you're not partially pregnant
    or thinking about being pregnant
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    or something of that sort.
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    So it works very well there,
    but it doesn't work very well
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    when you need more
    quantitative information.
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    There are also dipsticks,
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    but if you look at the dipsticks,
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    they're for another kind
    of urine analysis.
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    There are an awful lot of colors
    and things like that.
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    What do you actually do about that
    in a difficult circumstance?
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    So the approach we started with is to ask:
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    Is it really practical
    to make things of this sort?
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    And that problem is now,
    in a purely engineering way, solved.
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    And the procedure that we have
    is simply to start with paper.
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    You run it through a new kind
    of printer called a wax printer.
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    The wax printer does
    what looks like printing.
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    It is printing.
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    You put that on, you warm it a little bit,
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    the wax prints through,
    so it absorbs into the paper,
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    and you end up with the device you want.
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    The printers cost 800 bucks now.
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    We estimate that if you were
    to run them 24 hours a day,
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    they'd make about 10 million tests a year.
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    So it's a solved problem.
    That particular problem is solved.
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    And there is an example
    of the kind of thing that you see.
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    That's on a piece of 8 by 12 paper.
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    That takes about two seconds to make.
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    And so I regard that as done.
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    There's a very important issue here,
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    which is that because it's a printer,
    a color printer, it prints colors.
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    That's what color printers do.
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    I'll show you in a moment,
    that's actually quite useful.
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    Now, the next question
    that you would like to ask is:
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    What would you like to measure?
    What would you like to analyze?
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    And the thing you'd most like to analyze,
    we're a fair distance from.
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    It's what's called
    "fever of undiagnosed origin."
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    Someone comes into the clinic,
    they have a fever, they feel bad.
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    What do they have?
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    Do they have TB? Do they have AIDS?
    Do they have a common cold?
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    The triage problem.
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    That's a hard problem for reasons
    I won't go through.
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    There are an awful lot of things
    that you'd like to distinguish among.
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    But then there are a series of things --
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    AIDS, hepatitis, malaria, TB, others --
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    and simpler ones,
    such as guidance of treatment.
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    Now, even that's more
    complicated than you think.
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    A friend of mine works
    in transcultural psychiatry,
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    and he is interested in the question
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    of why people do
    and don't take their meds.
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    So Dapsone, or something like that,
    you have to take for a while.
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    He has a wonderful story
    of talking to a villager in India
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    and saying,
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    "Have you taken your Dapsone?" "Yes."
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    "Have you taken it every day?" "Yes."
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    "Have you taken if for a month?" "Yes."
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    What the guy actually meant
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    was that he'd fed a 30-day dose of Dapsone
    to his dog that morning.
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    (Laughter)
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    And he was telling the truth,
    because in a different culture,
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    the dog is a surrogate for you;
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    "today," "this month,"
    "since the rainy season" --
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    there are lots of opportunities
    for misunderstanding.
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    (Laughter)
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    And so an issue here is to,
    in some cases, figure out
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    how to deal with matters
    that seem uninteresting, like compliance.
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    Now, take a look
    at what a typical test looks like.
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    Prick a finger, you get some blood --
    about 50 microliters.
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    That's about all you're going to get,
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    because you can't use
    the usual sort of systems.
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    You can't manipulate it very well;
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    I'll show something
    about that in a moment.
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    So you take the drop of blood,
    no further manipulations,
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    you put it on a little device,
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    the device filters out the blood cells,
    lets the serum go through,
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    and you get a series of colors
    down in the bottom there.
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    And the colors indicate
    "disease" or "normal."
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    But even that's complicated,
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    because to me, colors
    might indicate "normal,"
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    but after all, we're all suffering
    from probably an excess of education.
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    What do you do about something
    which requires quantitative analysis?
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    And so the solution
    that we and many other people
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    are thinking about there,
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    and at this point,
    there is a dramatic flourish,
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    and out comes the universal solution
    to everything these days,
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    which is a cell phone --
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    in this particular case, a camera phone.
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    They're everywhere --
    six billion a month in India.
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    And the idea is that what one does
    is to take the device,
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    you dip it, you develop the color,
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    you take a picture,
    the picture goes to a central laboratory.
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    You don't have to send out a doctor,
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    you send out somebody
    who can just take the sample,
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    and in the clinic either a doctor,
    or ideally, a computer in this case,
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    does the analysis.
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    Turns out to work actually quite well,
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    particularly when your color printer
    has printed the color bars
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    that indicate how things work.
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    So my view of the health care
    worker of the future
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    is not a doctor, but an 18-year-old,
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    otherwise unemployed, who has two things:
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    a backpack full
    of these tests and a lancet
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    to occasionally take a blood sample,
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    and an AK-47.
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    And these are the things
    that get him through his day.
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    (Laughter)
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    There's another very
    interesting connection here,
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    and that is, that what one wants to do
    is pass through useful information
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    over what is generally
    a pretty awful telephone system.
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    It turns out there's an enormous
    amount of information
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    already available on that subject,
    which is the Mars Rover problem.
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    How do you get back an accurate view
    of the color on Mars
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    if you have a really terrible
    bandwidth to do it with?
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    And the answer is not complicated,
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    but it's one which I don't want
    to go through here,
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    other than to say that the communication
    systems for doing this
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    are really pretty well understood.
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    Also, a fact which you may not know
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    is that the compute capability
    of this thing is not so different
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    from the compute capability
    of your desktop computer.
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    This is a fantastic device
    which is only beginning to be tapped.
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    I don't know whether the idea
    of one computer, one child
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    makes any sense.
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    Here's the computer of the future,
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    because this screen is already there
    and they're ubiquitous.
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    All right, let me show you just
    a little bit about advanced devices.
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    And we'll start by posing
    a little problem.
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    What you see here
    is another centimeter-sized device,
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    and the different colors
    are different colors of dye.
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    And you notice something
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    which might strike you
    as a little bit interesting,
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    which is, the yellow seems to disappear,
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    get through the blue,
    and then get through the red.
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    How does that happen?
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    How do you make something
    flow through something?
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    And, of course the answer is, "You don't."
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    You make it flow under and over.
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    But now the question is:
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    How do you make it flow
    under and over in a piece of paper?
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    The answer is that what you do --
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    and the details are not
    terribly important here --
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    is to make something more elaborate:
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    You take several different
    layers of paper,
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    each one containing
    its own little fluid system,
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    and you separate them by pieces of,
    literally, double-sided carpet tape,
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    the stuff you use to stick
    the carpets onto the floor.
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    And the fluid will flow
    from one layer into the next.
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    It distributes itself,
    flows through further holes,
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    distributes itself.
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    And what you see,
    at the lower right-hand side there,
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    is a sample in which a single sample
    of blood has been put on the top,
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    and it has gone through
    and distributed itself
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    into these 16 holes on the bottom,
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    in a piece of paper --
    basically, it looks like a chip,
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    two pieces of paper thick.
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    And in this particular case,
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    we were just interested
    in the replicability of that.
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    But that is, in principle,
    the way you solve
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    the "fever of unexplained origin" problem,
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    because each one of those spots
    then becomes a test
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    for a particular set
    of markers of disease,
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    and this will work in due course.
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    Here is an example of a slightly
    more complicated device.
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    There's the chip.
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    You dip in a corner.
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    The fluid goes into the center.
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    It distributes itself out
    into these various wells or holes
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    and turns color,
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    all done with paper and carpet tape.
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    So it's, I think, as low-cost
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    as we're likely to be able
    to come up and make things.
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    Now, I have two last
    little stories to tell you
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    in finishing off this business.
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    This is one:
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    One of the things
    you occasionally need to do
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    is separate blood cells from serum.
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    And the question was,
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    here we do it by taking a sample,
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    we put it in a centrifuge, we spin it,
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    and you get blood cells out.
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    Terrific.
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    What happens if you don't have
    electricity, a centrifuge, and whatever?
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    And we thought for a while
    of how you might do this,
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    and the way, in fact, you do it,
    is what's shown here.
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    You get an eggbeater, which is everywhere,
    and you saw off a blade,
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    and then you take tubing,
    and you stick it on that.
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    You put the blood in,
    somebody sits there and spins it.
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    It works really, really well.
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    And we sat down,
    we did the physics of eggbeaters
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    and self-aligning tubes
    and all the rest of that kind of thing,
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    and sent it off to a journal.
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    We were very proud of this,
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    particularly the title,
    which was "Eggbeater as Centrifuge."
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    (Laughter)
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    And we sent it off,
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    and by return mail, it came back.
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    I called up the editor and I said,
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    "What's going on? How is this possible?"
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    The editor said, with enormous disdain,
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    "I read this.
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    And we're not going to publish it,
    because we only publish science."
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    (Laughter)
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    And it's an important issue,
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    because it means
    that we have to, as a society,
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    think about what we value.
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    And if it's just papers
    and Phys. Rev. letters,
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    we've got a problem.
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    Here is another example
    of something which is --
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    this is a little spectrophotometer.
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    It measures the absorption
    of light in a sample.
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    The neat thing about this is,
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    you have a light source that flickers
    on and off at about 1,000 hertz,
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    another light source
    that detects that light at 1,000 hertz,
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    and so you can run this system
    in broad daylight.
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    It performs about equivalently
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    to a system that's on the order
    of 100,000 dollars.
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    It costs 50 dollars.
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    We can probably make it for 50 cents
    if we put our mind to it.
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    Why doesn't somebody do it?
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    The answer is:
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    How do you make a profit
    in a capitalist system, doing that?
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    Interesting problem.
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    So, let me finish by saying
    that we've thought about this
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    as a kind of engineering problem.
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    And we've asked: What
    is the scientific unifying idea here?
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    And we've decided
    we should think about this
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    not so much in terms of cost,
    but in terms of simplicity.
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    Simplicity is a neat word.
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    You've got to think
    about what simplicity means.
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    I know what it is,
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    but I don't actually know what it means.
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    So I actually was interested
    enough in this
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    to put together several groups of people.
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    The most recent involved
    a couple of people at MIT,
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    one of them being
    an exceptionally bright kid
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    who is one of the very
    few people I would think of
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    who's an authentic genius.
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    We all struggled for an entire day
    to think about simplicity.
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    And I want to give you the answer
    of this deep scientific thought.
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    [What is simplicity?
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    "It's impossible to f..k it up"]
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    (Laughter)
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    So, in a sense, you get what you pay for.
  • 15:52 - 15:54
    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
A lab the size of a postage stamp
Speaker:
George Whitesides
Description:

Traditional lab tests for disease diagnosis can be too expensive and cumbersome for the regions most in need. George Whitesides' ingenious answer, at TEDxBoston, is a foolproof tool that can be manufactured at virtually zero cost.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
15:55
  • The English transcript was updated on 5/24/2017. On-screen text was added at 15:45.

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