HIV: the story behind the stigma | Paige Zhang | TEDxTerryTalks
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0:15 - 0:19So, let me tell you a story.
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0:19 - 0:22It's not a fiction as much as you and I
may sometimes hope it to be, -
0:22 - 0:28but HIV is a story that affects
33.4 million people around the world. -
0:29 - 0:3433.4 million people are HIV positive.
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0:34 - 0:37In BC, with a population
of 4.5 million people, -
0:37 - 0:4113,000 of us are HIV positive.
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0:41 - 0:43There are about 300 people here today,
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0:43 - 0:49and in BC, one in every
303 people is HIV positive. -
0:49 - 0:52I don't mean to stress
that the virus is so prevalent, -
0:52 - 0:55or that we should all start to panic
or be very concerned, -
0:55 - 1:00but I just mean to stress the impact
that HIV has on the human population. -
1:00 - 1:03And we can't simply think that we can
just gloss over the statistics, -
1:03 - 1:06and that we can just hear about it
on the world report -
1:06 - 1:08during the evening news broadcast.
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1:08 - 1:12But no, HIV affects people we know.
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1:12 - 1:16It could be your neighbors. It could be
the person sitting right beside you. -
1:16 - 1:18It could be me.
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1:18 - 1:21I work with the STOP HIV/AIDS Project,
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1:21 - 1:26which stands for "Seek and Treat
for Optimal Prevention of HIV/AIDS." -
1:26 - 1:28And it's a three-year pilot program
here in BC, -
1:28 - 1:32dedicated to providing access to medicines
in vulnerable populations -
1:32 - 1:35in the Downtown Eastside
and in Prince George. -
1:35 - 1:37I have a really neat job
where I get to be responsible -
1:37 - 1:41for the education outreach
surrounding rapid HIV testing clinics -
1:41 - 1:43right here at UBC.
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1:43 - 1:48And we had our first one just last week,
the rapid-testing clinic. (Laughter) -
1:48 - 1:50And the response was tremendous.
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1:50 - 1:53We had students who came up to testing
and students who talked to us, -
1:53 - 1:57and it was just so inspiring
to get so much good discussion going on, -
1:57 - 2:02about why talking about HIV
is so important. -
2:06 - 2:09But before I get into that, I'm going
to go back to the introduction, -
2:09 - 2:11and to how HIV started,
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2:11 - 2:15because in 1981,
a virus was first discovered -
2:15 - 2:17and two scientists,
Robert Gallo and Luc Montagnier, -
2:17 - 2:19both published
in the same issue of Science -
2:19 - 2:22that they had discovered a new retrovirus
that was prevalent -
2:22 - 2:25amongst the gay male community.
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2:25 - 2:28Now, 1981. That's only thirty years ago.
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2:28 - 2:31And in these meager thirty years,
HIV has really risen -
2:31 - 2:34to the forefront of public health.
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2:34 - 2:36And we hear about AIDS a lot.
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2:36 - 2:38As a science student -
I'm studying physiology - -
2:38 - 2:41I learn a lot about it
in my microbiology classes. -
2:41 - 2:46And I learned that HIV is a virus
that lives within our own cells, -
2:46 - 2:49and it turns our immune systems
against us. -
2:49 - 2:52And what it does
is that it spreads and replicates -
2:52 - 2:56until we're somehow defeated almost,
and then we get AIDS, -
2:56 - 2:59and that makes us susceptible
to other illnesses. -
3:00 - 3:05But AIDS does not equal death,
and HIV does not equal death. -
3:05 - 3:09When I first started my outreach training,
one of the first things we learned about -
3:09 - 3:11was the importance of language.
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3:11 - 3:13You may have noticed that already
in how I speak, -
3:13 - 3:16but I'm very careful
in how I talk about HIV, -
3:16 - 3:20because when language developed,
it developed along the lines of: -
3:20 - 3:24"Well, HIV is really unfortunate,
but I don't have it." -
3:24 - 3:26And that's why we might
be used to saying things -
3:26 - 3:29like "those people who have HIV,"
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3:29 - 3:32as if somehow suggesting that the fact
that we may have this disease -
3:32 - 3:36somehow makes us subhuman or different.
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3:36 - 3:38And I don't believe in this othering.
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3:38 - 3:40I feel like it's primitive
to separate people this way. -
3:40 - 3:43And instead, when I talk about HIV,
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3:43 - 3:48I like to express it as "those of us
who are HIV positive," -
3:48 - 3:52because each and every one of us
has an HIV status. -
3:52 - 3:54And the story of HIV
is a collaborative one. -
3:54 - 3:57We sometimes think
that it's only about the narratives -
3:57 - 3:59of those who live with HIV.
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3:59 - 4:03But no, each and every one of us
contributes to this overall story, -
4:03 - 4:07and how we talk about HIV,
and how we react to HIV. -
4:07 - 4:10And it's not just those living with HIV.
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4:10 - 4:12But did you notice how I said that?
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4:12 - 4:16Once again, the language defines
how we think about HIV. -
4:16 - 4:20"Living with HIV."
"Living with AIDS." -
4:20 - 4:24We say things like, "She has the flu,"
or, "He has allergies," -
4:24 - 4:28but with AIDS, it's almost
as if you're living, ball and chain, -
4:28 - 4:31to this virus that's with you
for the rest of your life. -
4:31 - 4:34And I don't think that's fair.
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4:35 - 4:37Let's talk about diabetes.
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4:37 - 4:41Diabetes is an illness.
There is no cure for diabetes. -
4:41 - 4:45Diabetics constantly monitor
their blood sugar levels. -
4:45 - 4:48Yet, I would say
that there's a lot less stigma -
4:48 - 4:52associated with going to the drugstore
and buying our blood sugar monitors -
4:52 - 4:56than there is being seen taking
our daily antiretroviral medications. -
4:56 - 4:59And what causes this difference
in how we perceive -
4:59 - 5:01these two very similar illnesses?
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5:04 - 5:07I've been doing outreach at UBC
for about 6 months now, -
5:07 - 5:10and I get asked some common questions
here by UBC students, -
5:10 - 5:13some of the smartest young people
in the world. -
5:13 - 5:18But they will ask me questions like,
"Can I get HIV from toilet seats?" -
5:19 - 5:24Or: "I don't need to get tested.
I'm not gay." -
5:24 - 5:28Or they will say things like: "Oh, I'm not
promiscuous, I don't need to use a condom. -
5:28 - 5:31I don't need to get tested.
Everything's going to be OK." -
5:31 - 5:34And I understand that sometimes
it's hard to talk about sensitive issues, -
5:34 - 5:36like HIV, like sex.
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5:36 - 5:39And I don't mean to insinuate
that UBC students -
5:39 - 5:42are not as smart as this establishment
repeatedly proves, -
5:42 - 5:46but that, instead, these are some
of the many misconceptions -
5:46 - 5:48that surround HIV.
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5:48 - 5:51It's really important to identify them
and to move past them, -
5:51 - 5:54because no, you cannot get HIV
from a toilet seat, -
5:54 - 5:58or holding hands, or kissing, or even
breathing the same air as somebody else. -
5:58 - 6:02And no, HIV is absolutely
not just a gay problem. -
6:02 - 6:05And no, HIV has no specific symptoms.
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6:05 - 6:08So, the only way to know for sure
is to get an HIV test. -
6:08 - 6:11And yes, if you are sexually active,
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6:11 - 6:17you should be getting a regular HIV test
yearly, or more often. -
6:17 - 6:21But one of the most common questions
I get asked, and often not directly, -
6:21 - 6:24is about what it's like to live with HIV.
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6:24 - 6:28And people are terrified of this thought,
they're terrified about that idea -
6:28 - 6:31that, one day, they're going
to walk into a clinic, -
6:31 - 6:34and sitting across from them will be
a nurse, a clinician, a doctor, -
6:34 - 6:40somebody that tells them that they are
preliminarily positive for HIV. -
6:41 - 6:43Can you imagine what it would be like
in that moment? -
6:43 - 6:46All these thoughts must be racing
through your head: -
6:46 - 6:48"What does this mean? What do I do?
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6:48 - 6:51Can I tell my parents?
Can I tell my friends? Should I tell them? -
6:51 - 6:54Am I going to die?"
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6:55 - 7:00And you know what, those are the questions
that I don't have the answers to, -
7:00 - 7:04but what I can do is go a bit deeper
into this story. -
7:04 - 7:09I have a friend. Let's call him Steve.
And Steve is HIV positive. -
7:09 - 7:14And I asked him once about that moment,
sitting in that empty room, -
7:14 - 7:17and finding out that he was HIV positive.
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7:17 - 7:20And I asked him, "What did you think?"
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7:20 - 7:26And Steve said:
"It was the scariest moment of my life." -
7:26 - 7:30And if you knew Steve
and how seriously he takes his words, -
7:30 - 7:32you would really feel the force of them.
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7:32 - 7:35But he continued, and he explained,
and he said: -
7:35 - 7:38"I was terrified. At that one moment,
I didn't know what to think. -
7:38 - 7:41I felt like I was two separate people:
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7:41 - 7:44one person, a dead person;
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7:44 - 7:48and one person was alive, but struggling.
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7:48 - 7:52And all I could think about
as this nurse was talking to me was: -
7:52 - 7:58'How do I tell my parents? How do I tell
my friends? How do I tell my partner?'" -
7:58 - 8:01But Steve did tell his parents,
and he did tell his friends, -
8:01 - 8:02and he did tell his partner.
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8:02 - 8:07And now, he tells others about how
he lives as an HIV-positive individual, -
8:07 - 8:10but he lives a full and healthy life,
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8:10 - 8:14and he explains how he's gone so far
past that initial moment, -
8:14 - 8:18infused with all of these misconceptions
and all of these fears. -
8:18 - 8:22And he explains that that moment
wasn't life-changing for him. -
8:22 - 8:28What was life-changing for him was
when Steve finally married his partner. -
8:32 - 8:35So, we're so used to this idea of HIV
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8:35 - 8:38being this terrible,
all-encompassing disease. -
8:38 - 8:43But I'm going to argue that while HIV
is life-changing, it is not life-defining. -
8:43 - 8:47HIV is a chronic, manageable illness.
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8:47 - 8:51And, can we just say that all together,
for full effect? (Laughter) -
8:51 - 8:54Yeah, let's do it!
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8:54 - 8:59Everybody in the room:
HIV is a chronic, manageable illness. -
8:59 - 9:02Paige Zhang: And wow,
that is so refreshing to hear, -
9:02 - 9:04because sometimes we hear the opposite,
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9:04 - 9:09and it has a really damaging effect
not only for those who live with HIV, -
9:09 - 9:12but for all of us;
it prevents us from getting tested, -
9:12 - 9:16it prevents us from finding the truth
behind HIV, and the real stories, -
9:16 - 9:20and the real experiences
of those who are HIV positive. -
9:22 - 9:25So, in 1985, antiretroviral medications
were discovered, -
9:25 - 9:30and they created a new sort of way
of dealing with HIV, -
9:30 - 9:34because what they do is they prevent
the virus from spreading within our bodies -
9:34 - 9:38and, while it's not a cure,
it's a huge step forward. -
9:40 - 9:44But even in a world where HIV
is so prevalent, and we have medication, -
9:44 - 9:49and we have so much support,
this idea that HIV is equal to death, -
9:49 - 9:53and that you are going to die
if you get HIV, that it's the worse thing -
9:53 - 9:56that could possibly happen,
and that you are subhuman if you get HIV, -
9:56 - 10:00how is it that this stigma
is so misunderstood? -
10:00 - 10:02Well, I'm going to have
to go back to the story again, -
10:02 - 10:09for before human immunodeficiency virus
was even called HIV, it was called GRID, -
10:09 - 10:14which stands for
"gay related immune deficiency." -
10:14 - 10:17And it was partly because HIV
was so prevalent amongst the MSM, -
10:17 - 10:22or "men who have sex with men" population,
when it first came into the public sphere, -
10:22 - 10:26but people so readily associated it
with the gay community, -
10:26 - 10:28and they did it because they were scared,
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10:28 - 10:31they were terrified of this new virus
that was spreading, -
10:31 - 10:35and they were terrified
about what it would mean to get HIV. -
10:35 - 10:39And so, they held it separate,
they associated it with certain people, -
10:39 - 10:42and they played the blame game,
and they would say things like, -
10:42 - 10:46"Well, you got HIV because you're gay."
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10:46 - 10:51Or they would say things like: "You got
HIV because you cheated on your husband." -
10:51 - 10:54And they would cope with it by saying:
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10:54 - 10:59"Well, me? I only have sex
with my husband, I'm completely loyal, -
10:59 - 11:04and nothing bad will ever happen.
I will not get HIV." -
11:04 - 11:06And they used it as a coping mechanism,
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11:06 - 11:10but it also distances ourselves
from the truth. -
11:10 - 11:14Then, in 1985, a serious dent
was put in this view, -
11:14 - 11:18and Rock Hudson,
a popular Hollywood actor at the time, -
11:18 - 11:23died from AIDS-related causes and it also
came out that he was homosexual. -
11:23 - 11:26And suddenly, this idea
that we were so separate from HIV, -
11:26 - 11:31and that we were so distant
suddenly shattered, because we're not. -
11:31 - 11:34HIV can affect anyone.
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11:35 - 11:38Other celebrities
have been affected by HIV/AIDS. -
11:38 - 11:42Freddie Mercury died
from AIDS-related causes, -
11:42 - 11:44as did Isaac Asimov,
although he contracted HIV -
11:44 - 11:46through a botched blood transfusion,
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11:46 - 11:49before more stringent laws
were put into place. -
11:49 - 11:54And one of the most prolific
HIV/AIDS activists is Magic Johnson. -
11:54 - 11:58And when he came out in 1991,
there was a huge uproar -
11:58 - 12:01about suddenly this American hero,
this basketball player, -
12:01 - 12:06one of the most popular Americans
at the time, being HIV positive. -
12:06 - 12:08And he retired.
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12:09 - 12:15But what gives me hope is that, in 1992,
he was asked, I mean demanded, -
12:15 - 12:20to go and play for the all-star team
where he led the west side to victory -
12:20 - 12:23and he was named the most valuable player.
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12:25 - 12:29How is it that HIV has only been around
for thirty years -
12:29 - 12:33and there's been so much stigma,
and so many misconceptions, -
12:33 - 12:37and so much truth that's been lost?
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12:37 - 12:42It has to do with fear:
fear of HIV meaning death, -
12:42 - 12:46fear of what it's like to live with HIV,
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12:47 - 12:50and it's also a fear
of what we can do to help it. -
12:50 - 12:54I know it's something that's frightened me
for a really long time. -
12:54 - 12:57I mean, HIV is a devastating disease.
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12:57 - 13:02You, I, we really feel for those
who have HIV, -
13:02 - 13:08but while it's easy to invoke compassion,
it's a lot harder to invoke action, -
13:08 - 13:13because 33.4 million people
are HIV positive. -
13:13 - 13:16What can I, as one person, do?
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13:16 - 13:20And we feel overwhelmed, and we feel
that it's up to the doctors, the nurses, -
13:20 - 13:24the clinicians, and the leading
scientists to do something. -
13:24 - 13:28But I'm here to tell you that we
can change the face of the illness, -
13:28 - 13:34and it's up to us;
each and every one of us can fight HIV. -
13:34 - 13:39And one of the most important ways
I think we can do this is to get tested. -
13:39 - 13:46Testing! Is it scary? Yes.
It could mean that we're HIV positive. -
13:46 - 13:48It could mean
that we would have to find out. -
13:48 - 13:53It could mean that we would have to think
about HIV and how it affects us. -
13:53 - 13:56But testing is so important,
because if you get tested, -
13:56 - 13:59it gets you on essential medications
earlier, it stops transmission, -
13:59 - 14:04and it breaks the stigma
about getting tested. -
14:04 - 14:10I once asked a nurse why she thought
it was so important to get HIV testing, -
14:10 - 14:13and she said, "Why not?"
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14:13 - 14:16And if you think about it,
it really is that simple. -
14:16 - 14:21I get my eyes checked every year;
I get my teeth cleaned every six months; -
14:21 - 14:24I do my laundry, often enough;
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14:24 - 14:25(Laughter)
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14:25 - 14:29and I get an HIV testing yearly.
It's as simple as that! -
14:29 - 14:32Just another part of my medical routine.
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14:32 - 14:35Because we should break past
this stigma behind testing, -
14:35 - 14:37and we should just go and do it,
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14:37 - 14:43because, well, the story of HIV
has been written by fear, stigma, -
14:43 - 14:45and terror for the past thirty years.
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14:45 - 14:50We can replace it with one
of understanding, compassion, and hope. -
14:50 - 14:54So go, get tested, and know your status,
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14:54 - 15:00because your status will not defeat you,
it will not destroy us, -
15:00 - 15:03and it will nor define us.
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15:03 - 15:04Thank you.
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15:04 - 15:06(Applause)
- Title:
- HIV: the story behind the stigma | Paige Zhang | TEDxTerryTalks
- Description:
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Paige Zhang talks about HIV and stigma. Although HIV has only been around for 30 years, this stigma is heavily prominent and important to address and correct. Part of this process is to educate the public on the need to undergo routine HIV testing.
Paige has had experience working with the S.T.O.P. HIV/AIDS project and doing HIV outreach. Here, she has encountered a lot of misconceptions around HIV -- a lot of which is hurtful and disruptive to public health outreach. She hopes that her talk will not only explain origins and causes of stigma, but also inspire others to look past misconceptions as an important way of fighting the HIV epidemic.
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- English
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- Duration:
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