How a sea worm showed me the secret of universal blood | Franck Zal | TEDxParis
-
0:07 - 0:11According to the World Health Organization
-
0:11 - 0:16100 million litres of blood
is needed worldwide -
0:16 - 0:19to satisfy the world population's needs.
-
0:19 - 0:23Moreover, the French Blood Service
has stated -
0:23 - 0:29that 90% of French people know
that donating blood saves lives. -
0:30 - 0:32But despite this,
-
0:32 - 0:35only 4% do it each year.
-
0:37 - 0:42And this is true for most
industrialized nations. -
0:43 - 0:48Given the shortfall between
the amount of blood donated -
0:48 - 0:51and the needs of the global population,
-
0:51 - 0:54we need to find another way
-
0:55 - 0:59in order to respond to this
real public health problem. -
1:00 - 1:06As surprising as this may seem,
I might have found one solution. -
1:07 - 1:11And I found that solution
on a beach in Brittany. -
1:13 - 1:17Even as a little boy, I was fascinated
by the ocean, -
1:17 - 1:21and I think those television programs
by Jacques Cousteau -
1:21 - 1:22had something to do with it.
-
1:23 - 1:26So obviously, I decided
that I would work in that field, -
1:26 - 1:29and I became a doctor in marine biology.
-
1:30 - 1:34One particular environment
quickly caught my attention -
1:34 - 1:38as it was colonised by very old organisms.
-
1:39 - 1:41It was the foreshore,
-
1:41 - 1:44a scientific name for an environment
that you surely like -
1:44 - 1:46as it's the beach.
-
1:47 - 1:52The high tide covers Brittany's
beaches twice daily. -
1:53 - 1:59And the sand on these beaches
shelters some very old organisms -
1:59 - 2:02which you've probably noticed
-
2:02 - 2:06by the trails that these organisms
leave on the sand -
2:06 - 2:08when you set down your towel.
-
2:08 - 2:14In fact, these trails show
the presence of a marine organism -
2:14 - 2:18which is called the lugworm.
-
2:19 - 2:21So, lugworm
-
2:21 - 2:26is the name of a sea worm
common on beaches in Brittany -
2:26 - 2:28known locally as Buzuc.
-
2:29 - 2:32So I studied this sea worm
-
2:32 - 2:36for answers about
respiratory ecophysiology. -
2:36 - 2:38So what does that mean?
-
2:38 - 2:41It's simple really, I was interested
in this worm's breathing. -
2:41 - 2:44I was trying to understand
how this worm breathed -
2:44 - 2:47between high and low tides.
-
2:47 - 2:51In order to answer
that burning research question, -
2:51 - 2:52(Laughter)
-
2:52 - 2:56I took an interest in the animal's blood.
-
2:57 - 3:02Actually, blood is an extremely
interesting biological fluid. -
3:02 - 3:06It is the interface between
an organism's physiology -
3:06 - 3:08and its environment.
-
3:09 - 3:15In fact, blood is made up
of different cells -
3:15 - 3:19but the molecule that transports oxygen,
-
3:19 - 3:23oxygen that is vital to all
living organisms, -
3:23 - 3:28which is a bit like - if I can
use a mechanical analogy - -
3:28 - 3:33oxygen is a bit like the fuel
that you put in your car. -
3:34 - 3:36Without fuel, the car stalls.
-
3:36 - 3:39And without oxygen, death is certain.
-
3:40 - 3:41Actually,
-
3:41 - 3:47blood contains specific cells
called red blood cells. -
3:47 - 3:49Red blood cells are like a small car
-
3:49 - 3:53which take gas to your body's cells.
-
3:54 - 3:55And more accurately,
-
3:55 - 4:00this molecule contains a protein
called hemoglobin. -
4:01 - 4:05Hemoglobin is a molecule
that can bind oxygen. -
4:06 - 4:09So imagine my surprise,
-
4:09 - 4:13when the blood of this here seaworm
-
4:13 - 4:15didn't contain any red blood cells.
-
4:15 - 4:18To be honest,
-
4:18 - 4:22at first, I didn't understand
the magnitude of this study. -
4:22 - 4:25But my discovery became known
to a research group -
4:25 - 4:27called the Red Blood Cell Club.
-
4:27 - 4:29(Laughter)
-
4:29 - 4:33Thus, I was invited to a Parisian hospital
-
4:34 - 4:38to present my research
in front of a panel of doctors, -
4:38 - 4:39haemotologists.
-
4:40 - 4:44And at the end of my scientific conference
-
4:44 - 4:47several of them came down the ampitheatre
-
4:47 - 4:49and asked me the following questions,
-
4:49 - 4:53"But Sir, haven't you found
the molecule with that structure, -
4:53 - 4:55with that function?"
-
4:55 - 4:56"Well, yes I have!"
-
4:56 - 4:59"We've been searching
for that molecule for over 40 years -
4:59 - 5:02to make a universal blood substitute!"
-
5:03 - 5:08You and I, we have the ABO blood type,
-
5:10 - 5:13rhesus positive or rhesus negative.
-
5:13 - 5:18Only O negative
is the universal donor type. -
5:18 - 5:21The absence of red blood cells
in that animal -
5:21 - 5:24would make that molecule universal.
-
5:27 - 5:32Going back to the lab to test that theory,
-
5:32 - 5:37I rushed off to the beach
to collect a few hundred lugworms, -
5:38 - 5:41merely in an attempt
to collect the hemoglobin -
5:41 - 5:44present in their circulatory system.
-
5:44 - 5:47After purifying this molecule
-
5:48 - 5:51using traditional lab techniques
-
5:51 - 5:54I was eager to perform
transfusions on rodents. -
5:55 - 5:58Imagine my surprise when
-
5:58 - 6:02after removing more than 80%
of their blood in a lab, -
6:03 - 6:07I did a molecular transfusion
on these animals -
6:08 - 6:10and nothing happened.
-
6:10 - 6:11(Laughter)
-
6:11 - 6:17The organisms, these rodents,
living with the hemoglobin of sea worms. -
6:18 - 6:19A surprising discovery,
-
6:19 - 6:23offering medicine tremendous hope.
-
6:23 - 6:26Thumbing its nose at all those
skeptics who asked me, -
6:26 - 6:29"What is the point of studying
how sea worms breathe? -
6:29 - 6:31(Laughter)
-
6:31 - 6:35Don't you have anything else
to do in a CNRS lab?" -
6:35 - 6:37(Laughter)
-
6:38 - 6:42In order to further develop this research,
-
6:42 - 6:48I am forced to leave the CNRS
to create a biotechnology company -
6:48 - 6:51that will develop these molecules
-
6:53 - 6:55for medical use.
-
6:56 - 7:01And only a few hundred grams
of lugworms are needed -
7:01 - 7:05to make one bag of this globular type.
-
7:06 - 7:10There are many uses for this molecule.
-
7:12 - 7:13Why?
-
7:13 - 7:16Simply because oxygen
-
7:16 - 7:21is central to all biological
and physiological processes -
7:21 - 7:23so, ultimately, to life.
-
7:25 - 7:29I spent the first years
after starting this company, -
7:29 - 7:34developing an industrial
manufacturing process -
7:35 - 7:37for my sea worms.
-
7:37 - 7:39As a biologist,
-
7:39 - 7:43it was not an option for me to remove them
from every beach in Brittany. -
7:43 - 7:48And today, these worms are made
using aquaculture -
7:48 - 7:52in a totally controlled
and traceable environment. -
7:52 - 7:55Hundreds of tonnes of this animal
-
7:55 - 7:57are made using aquaculture.
-
7:58 - 8:01Apart from the worm,
the main issue was the biomass. -
8:01 - 8:06We had to find
an industrial production system -
8:06 - 8:10to extract these molecules
in pharmaceutical conditions. -
8:10 - 8:12And today, we actually have
a whole process -
8:12 - 8:16which allows us to extract
the biomass molecules. -
8:18 - 8:23This industrial process
and the production of sea worms -
8:23 - 8:25provides a multitude of uses.
-
8:26 - 8:30And I'm going to mention three
although there are lots. -
8:30 - 8:32First, there's blood transfusion.
-
8:32 - 8:35You know, when you give blood,
-
8:35 - 8:39a bag of blood can be stored for 42 days,
-
8:39 - 8:41because red blood cells are perishable.
-
8:42 - 8:47Moreover, the cold chain
must be kept at 4 °C. -
8:49 - 8:53Just to remind you that this molecule
is not contained in red blood cells. -
8:53 - 8:59And so it is possible to get
freeze-dried blood, -
8:59 - 9:01by which I mean powdered blood,
-
9:01 - 9:05which can be put back into solution
thanks to pharmaceutical water. -
9:05 - 9:08So no more storage problem.
-
9:08 - 9:11No more 4 °C preservation problem.
-
9:11 - 9:15This product could be readily available
for an emergency, -
9:15 - 9:16natural disaster,
-
9:16 - 9:20wherever a patient
urgently needs a blood transfusion. -
9:20 - 9:23Today, this product is in development
-
9:23 - 9:26thanks to a partnership
with the U.S. Army. -
9:27 - 9:30The second use is healing.
-
9:32 - 9:34We're not talking about
just any type of wound. -
9:34 - 9:38Wounds found in people
who suffer from diabetes, -
9:38 - 9:40known as Diabetic Foot Syndrome,
-
9:40 - 9:44people who suffer from
pressure sores, large burns, -
9:44 - 9:47all of these wounds have
difficulty healing themselves. -
9:47 - 9:48Why?
-
9:48 - 9:52Well simply because
of bad blood circulation. -
9:53 - 9:54And unfortunately,
-
9:54 - 9:58the wounds found in people
who suffer from diabetes -
9:58 - 10:04generally end badly
as most have to be amputated. -
10:04 - 10:08And this affects 20 million
people across the globe. -
10:09 - 10:14We have been able to show
that bandages soaked with this molecule -
10:14 - 10:19were able to deliver oxygen to the feet,
and to these wounds, -
10:19 - 10:22ultimately avoiding amputation.
-
10:24 - 10:29The third use, which is closest
to completion today -
10:29 - 10:32as a human trial will take place
at the end of the year, -
10:32 - 10:34is organ transplantation.
-
10:34 - 10:40In France, 500 people die each year
because of a shortage of organs -
10:40 - 10:43on a waiting list of 19,000 patients.
-
10:44 - 10:45Why?
-
10:46 - 10:50Because actually, the solutions
used in clinics today -
10:50 - 10:56are made up of just water and salt
but nothing to carry oxygen. -
10:57 - 11:00When an organ is removed from a donor,
-
11:00 - 11:03it is immediately disconnected
from blood circulation. -
11:04 - 11:09And we have been able to show
that by using this molecule, -
11:09 - 11:13it is possible to considerably increase
-
11:13 - 11:14the time an organ can be preserved.
-
11:14 - 11:18For a heart today, you have 4 hours
between removal from the donor -
11:18 - 11:20and the moment it is inserted
into the recipient. -
11:20 - 11:22For a kidney, it's 12 hours.
-
11:22 - 11:24With this molecule, today,
-
11:24 - 11:28we have been able to double the time
for preserving these organs -
11:28 - 11:31and preserve a kidney
for four times as long. -
11:31 - 11:34So today, we are able to increase
-
11:34 - 11:37the pool of organs available
for transplant. -
11:38 - 11:40Research is progressing,
-
11:40 - 11:44but it is not progressing as quickly
as we would like. -
11:44 - 11:46Why?
-
11:46 - 11:49Because the drug cycle is long,
-
11:49 - 11:50very long,
-
11:50 - 11:51very, very long,
-
11:52 - 11:56and while waiting for our product
to be put on the market, -
11:56 - 12:01which could save millions
of lives around the world, -
12:01 - 12:04I can only urge you
to go and give blood. -
12:04 - 12:06Be generous in order to save lives.
-
12:07 - 12:11And a little advice,
between friends: go quickly, -
12:11 - 12:13because tomorrow,
it may be an act of the past. -
12:13 - 12:14Thank you.
-
12:14 - 12:16(Applause)
- Title:
- How a sea worm showed me the secret of universal blood | Franck Zal | TEDxParis
- Description:
-
This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
While studying the respiratory system of a sea worm which lives on the beaches of Brittany, Dr. Zal discovered, almost by chance, a universal blood substitute which could replace the 100 million litres of blood which are lacking each year.
- Video Language:
- French
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 12:22