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How a sea worm showed me the secret of universal blood | Franck Zal | TEDxParis

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    According to the World Health Organization
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    100 million litres of blood
    is needed worldwide
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    to satisfy the world population's needs.
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    Moreover, the French Blood Service
    has stated
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    that 90% of French people know
    that donating blood saves lives.
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    But despite this,
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    only 4% do it each year.
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    And this is true for most
    industrialized nations.
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    Given the shortfall between
    the amount of blood donated
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    and the needs of the global population,
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    we need to find another way
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    in order to respond to this
    real public health problem.
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    As surprising as this may seem,
    I might have found one solution.
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    And I found that solution
    on a beach in Brittany.
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    Even as a little boy, I was fascinated
    by the ocean,
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    and I think those television programs
    by Jacques Cousteau
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    had something to do with it.
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    So obviously, I decided
    that I would work in that field,
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    and I became a doctor in marine biology.
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    One particular environment
    quickly caught my attention
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    as it was colonised by very old organisms.
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    It was the foreshore,
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    a scientific name for an environment
    that you surely like
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    as it's the beach.
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    The high tide covers Brittany's
    beaches twice daily.
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    And the sand on these beaches
    shelters some very old organisms
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    which you've probably noticed
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    by the trails that these organisms
    leave on the sand
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    when you set down your towel.
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    In fact, these trails show
    the presence of a marine organism
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    which is called the lugworm.
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    So, lugworm
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    is the name of a sea worm
    common on beaches in Brittany
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    known locally as Buzuc.
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    So I studied this sea worm
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    for answers about
    respiratory ecophysiology.
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    So what does that mean?
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    It's simple really, I was interested
    in this worm's breathing.
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    I was trying to understand
    how this worm breathed
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    between high and low tides.
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    In order to answer
    that burning research question,
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    (Laughter)
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    I took an interest in the animal's blood.
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    Actually, blood is an extremely
    interesting biological fluid.
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    It is the interface between
    an organism's physiology
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    and its environment.
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    In fact, blood is made up
    of different cells
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    but the molecule that transports oxygen,
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    oxygen that is vital to all
    living organisms,
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    which is a bit like - if I can
    use a mechanical analogy -
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    oxygen is a bit like the fuel
    that you put in your car.
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    Without fuel, the car stalls.
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    And without oxygen, death is certain.
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    Actually,
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    blood contains specific cells
    called red blood cells.
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    Red blood cells are like a small car
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    which take gas to your body's cells.
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    And more accurately,
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    this molecule contains a protein
    called hemoglobin.
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    Hemoglobin is a molecule
    that can bind oxygen.
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    So imagine my surprise,
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    when the blood of this here seaworm
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    didn't contain any red blood cells.
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    To be honest,
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    at first, I didn't understand
    the magnitude of this study.
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    But my discovery became known
    to a research group
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    called the Red Blood Cell Club.
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    (Laughter)
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    Thus, I was invited to a Parisian hospital
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    to present my research
    in front of a panel of doctors,
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    haemotologists.
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    And at the end of my scientific conference
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    several of them came down the ampitheatre
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    and asked me the following questions,
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    "But Sir, haven't you found
    the molecule with that structure,
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    with that function?"
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    "Well, yes I have!"
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    "We've been searching
    for that molecule for over 40 years
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    to make a universal blood substitute!"
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    You and I, we have the ABO blood type,
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    rhesus positive or rhesus negative.
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    Only O negative
    is the universal donor type.
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    The absence of red blood cells
    in that animal
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    would make that molecule universal.
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    Going back to the lab to test that theory,
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    I rushed off to the beach
    to collect a few hundred lugworms,
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    merely in an attempt
    to collect the hemoglobin
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    present in their circulatory system.
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    After purifying this molecule
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    using traditional lab techniques
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    I was eager to perform
    transfusions on rodents.
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    Imagine my surprise when
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    after removing more than 80%
    of their blood in a lab,
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    I did a molecular transfusion
    on these animals
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    and nothing happened.
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    (Laughter)
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    The organisms, these rodents,
    living with the hemoglobin of sea worms.
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    A surprising discovery,
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    offering medicine tremendous hope.
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    Thumbing its nose at all those
    skeptics who asked me,
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    "What is the point of studying
    how sea worms breathe?
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    (Laughter)
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    Don't you have anything else
    to do in a CNRS lab?"
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    (Laughter)
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    In order to further develop this research,
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    I am forced to leave the CNRS
    to create a biotechnology company
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    that will develop these molecules
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    for medical use.
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    And only a few hundred grams
    of lugworms are needed
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    to make one bag of this globular type.
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    There are many uses for this molecule.
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    Why?
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    Simply because oxygen
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    is central to all biological
    and physiological processes
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    so, ultimately, to life.
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    I spent the first years
    after starting this company,
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    developing an industrial
    manufacturing process
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    for my sea worms.
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    As a biologist,
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    it was not an option for me to remove them
    from every beach in Brittany.
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    And today, these worms are made
    using aquaculture
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    in a totally controlled
    and traceable environment.
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    Hundreds of tonnes of this animal
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    are made using aquaculture.
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    Apart from the worm,
    the main issue was the biomass.
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    We had to find
    an industrial production system
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    to extract these molecules
    in pharmaceutical conditions.
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    And today, we actually have
    a whole process
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    which allows us to extract
    the biomass molecules.
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    This industrial process
    and the production of sea worms
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    provides a multitude of uses.
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    And I'm going to mention three
    although there are lots.
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    First, there's blood transfusion.
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    You know, when you give blood,
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    a bag of blood can be stored for 42 days,
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    because red blood cells are perishable.
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    Moreover, the cold chain
    must be kept at 4 °C.
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    Just to remind you that this molecule
    is not contained in red blood cells.
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    And so it is possible to get
    freeze-dried blood,
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    by which I mean powdered blood,
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    which can be put back into solution
    thanks to pharmaceutical water.
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    So no more storage problem.
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    No more 4 °C preservation problem.
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    This product could be readily available
    for an emergency,
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    natural disaster,
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    wherever a patient
    urgently needs a blood transfusion.
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    Today, this product is in development
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    thanks to a partnership
    with the U.S. Army.
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    The second use is healing.
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    We're not talking about
    just any type of wound.
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    Wounds found in people
    who suffer from diabetes,
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    known as Diabetic Foot Syndrome,
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    people who suffer from
    pressure sores, large burns,
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    all of these wounds have
    difficulty healing themselves.
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    Why?
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    Well simply because
    of bad blood circulation.
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    And unfortunately,
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    the wounds found in people
    who suffer from diabetes
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    generally end badly
    as most have to be amputated.
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    And this affects 20 million
    people across the globe.
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    We have been able to show
    that bandages soaked with this molecule
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    were able to deliver oxygen to the feet,
    and to these wounds,
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    ultimately avoiding amputation.
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    The third use, which is closest
    to completion today
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    as a human trial will take place
    at the end of the year,
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    is organ transplantation.
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    In France, 500 people die each year
    because of a shortage of organs
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    on a waiting list of 19,000 patients.
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    Why?
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    Because actually, the solutions
    used in clinics today
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    are made up of just water and salt
    but nothing to carry oxygen.
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    When an organ is removed from a donor,
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    it is immediately disconnected
    from blood circulation.
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    And we have been able to show
    that by using this molecule,
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    it is possible to considerably increase
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    the time an organ can be preserved.
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    For a heart today, you have 4 hours
    between removal from the donor
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    and the moment it is inserted
    into the recipient.
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    For a kidney, it's 12 hours.
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    With this molecule, today,
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    we have been able to double the time
    for preserving these organs
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    and preserve a kidney
    for four times as long.
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    So today, we are able to increase
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    the pool of organs available
    for transplant.
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    Research is progressing,
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    but it is not progressing as quickly
    as we would like.
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    Why?
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    Because the drug cycle is long,
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    very long,
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    very, very long,
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    and while waiting for our product
    to be put on the market,
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    which could save millions
    of lives around the world,
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    I can only urge you
    to go and give blood.
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    Be generous in order to save lives.
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    And a little advice,
    between friends: go quickly,
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    because tomorrow,
    it may be an act of the past.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How a sea worm showed me the secret of universal blood | Franck Zal | TEDxParis
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.

While studying the respiratory system of a sea worm which lives on the beaches of Brittany, Dr. Zal discovered, almost by chance, a universal blood substitute which could replace the 100 million litres of blood which are lacking each year.

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Video Language:
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Duration:
12:22

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