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How young blood might help reverse aging. Yes, really

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    This is a painting from the 16th century
    from Lucas Cranach the Elder.
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    It shows the famous Fountain of Youth.
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    If you drink its water or you bathe in it,
    you will get health and youth.
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    Every culture, every civilization
    has dreamed of finding eternal youth.
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    There are people like Alexander the Great
    or Ponce De León, the explorer,
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    who spent much of their life
    chasing the Fountain of Youth.
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    They didn't find it.
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    But what if there was something to it?
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    What if there was something
    to this Fountain of Youth?
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    I will share an absolutely amazing
    development in aging research
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    that could revolutionize
    the way we think about aging
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    and how we may treat age-related
    diseases in the future.
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    It started with experiments that showed,
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    in a recent number
    of studies about growing,
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    that animals -- old mice --
    that share a blood supply with young mice
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    can get rejuvenated.
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    This is similar to what you might see
    in humans, in Siamese twins,
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    and I know this sounds a bit creepy.
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    But what Tom Rando, a stem-cell
    researcher, reported in 2007,
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    was that old muscle from a mouse
    can be rejuvenated
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    if it's exposed to young blood
    through common circulation.
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    This was reproduced by Amy Wagers
    at Harvard a few years later,
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    and others then showed that similar
    rejuvenating effects could be observed
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    in the pancreas, the liver and the heart.
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    But what I'm most excited about,
    and several other labs as well,
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    is that this may even apply to the brain.
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    So, what we found is that an old mouse
    exposed to a young environment
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    in this model called parabiosis,
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    shows a younger brain --
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    and a brain that functions better.
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    And I repeat:
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    an old mouse that gets young blood
    through shared circulation
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    looks younger and functions
    younger in its brain.
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    So when we get older --
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    we can look at different aspects
    of human cognition,
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    and you can see on this slide here,
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    we can look at reasoning,
    verbal ability and so forth.
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    And up to around age 50 or 60,
    these functions are all intact,
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    and as I look at the young audience
    here in the room, we're all still fine.
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    (Laughter)
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    But it's scary to see
    how all these curves go south.
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    And as we get older,
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    diseases such as Alzheimer's
    and others may develop.
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    We know that with age,
    the connections between neurons --
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    the way neurons talk to each other,
    the synapses -- they start to deteriorate;
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    neurons die, the brain starts to shrink,
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    and there's an increased susceptibility
    for these neurodegenerative diseases.
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    One big problem we have -- to try
    to understand how this really works
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    at a very molecular mechanistic level --
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    is that we can't study the brains
    in detail, in living people.
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    We can do cognitive tests,
    we can do imaging --
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    all kinds of sophisticated testing.
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    But we usually have to wait
    until the person dies
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    to get the brain and look at how it really
    changed through age or in a disease.
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    This is what neuropathologists
    do, for example.
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    So, how about we think of the brain
    as being part of the larger organism.
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    Could we potentially understand more
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    about what happens in the brain
    at the molecular level
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    if we see the brain
    as part of the entire body?
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    So if the body ages or gets sick,
    does that affect the brain?
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    And vice versa: as the brain gets older,
    does that influence the rest of the body?
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    And what connects all the different
    tissues in the body
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    is blood.
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    Blood is the tissue that not only carries
    cells that transport oxygen, for example,
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    the red blood cells,
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    or fights infectious diseases,
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    but it also carries messenger molecules,
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    hormone-like factors
    that transport information
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    from one cell to another,
    from one tissue to another,
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    including the brain.
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    So if we look at how the blood
    changes in disease or age,
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    can we learn something about the brain?
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    We know that as we get older,
    the blood changes as well,
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    so these hormone-like factors
    change as we get older.
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    And by and large,
    factors that we know are required
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    for the development of tissues,
    for the maintenance of tissues --
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    they start to decrease as we get older,
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    while factors involved in repair,
    in injury and in inflammation --
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    they increase as we get older.
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    So there's this unbalance of good
    and bad factors, if you will.
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    And to illustrate what we can do
    potentially with that,
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    I want to talk you through
    an experiment that we did.
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    We had almost 300 blood samples
    from healthy human beings
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    20 to 89 years of age,
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    and we measured over 100
    of these communication factors,
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    these hormone-like proteins that
    transport information between tissues.
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    And what we noticed first
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    is that between the youngest
    and the oldest group,
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    about half the factors
    changed significantly.
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    So our body lives in a very
    different environment as we get older,
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    when it comes to these factors.
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    And using statistical
    or bioinformatics programs,
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    we could try to discover
    those factors that best predict age --
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    in a way, back-calculate
    the relative age of a person.
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    And the way this looks
    is shown in this graph.
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    So, on the one axis you see
    the actual age a person lived,
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    the chronological age.
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    So, how many years they lived.
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    And then we take these top factors
    that I showed you,
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    and we calculate their relative age,
    their biological age.
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    And what you see is that
    there is a pretty good correlation,
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    so we can pretty well predict
    the relative age of a person.
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    But what's really exciting
    are the outliers,
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    as they so often are in life.
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    You can see here, the person
    I highlighted with the green dot
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    is about 70 years of age
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    but seems to have a biological age,
    if what we're doing here is really true,
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    of only about 45.
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    So is this a person that actually
    looks much younger than their age?
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    But more importantly: Is this a person
    who is maybe at a reduced risk
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    to develop an age-related disease
    and will have a long life --
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    will live to 100 or more?
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    On the other hand, the person here,
    highlighted with the red dot,
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    is not even 40,
    but has a biological age of 65.
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    Is this a person at an increased risk
    of developing an age-related disease?
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    So in our lab, we're trying
    to understand these factors better,
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    and many other groups
    are trying to understand,
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    what are the true aging factors,
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    and can we learn something about them
    to possibly predict age-related diseases?
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    So what I've shown you so far
    is simply correlational, right?
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    You can just say,
    "Well, these factors change with age,"
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    but you don't really know
    if they do something about aging.
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    So what I'm going to show you now
    is very remarkable
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    and it suggests that these factors
    can actually modulate the age of a tissue.
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    And that's where we come back
    to this model called parabiosis.
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    So, parabiosis is done in mice
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    by surgically connecting
    the two mice together,
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    and that leads then
    to a shared blood system,
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    where we can now ask,
    "How does the old brain get influenced
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    by exposure to the young blood?"
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    And for this purpose, we use young mice
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    that are an equivalency
    of 20-year-old people,
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    and old mice that are roughly
    65 years old in human years.
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    What we found is quite remarkable.
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    We find there are more neural stem cells
    that make new neurons
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    in these old brains.
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    There's an increased
    activity of the synapses,
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    the connections between neurons.
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    There are more genes expressed
    that are known to be involved
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    in the formation of new memories.
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    And there's less of this bad inflammation.
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    But we observed that there are no cells
    entering the brains of these animals.
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    So when we connect them,
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    there are actually no cells
    going into the old brain, in this model.
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    Instead, we've reasoned, then,
    that it must be the soluble factors,
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    so we could collect simply the soluble
    fraction of blood which is called plasma,
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    and inject either young plasma
    or old plasma into these mice,
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    and we could reproduce
    these rejuvenating effects,
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    but what we could also do now
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    is we could do memory tests with mice.
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    As mice get older, like us humans,
    they have memory problems.
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    It's just harder to detect them,
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    but I'll show you in a minute
    how we do that.
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    But we wanted to take this
    one step further,
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    one step closer to potentially
    being relevant to humans.
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    What I'm showing you now
    are unpublished studies,
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    where we used human plasma,
    young human plasma,
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    and as a control, saline,
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    and injected it into old mice,
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    and asked, can we again
    rejuvenate these old mice?
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    Can we make them smarter?
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    And to do this, we used a test.
    It's called a Barnes maze.
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    This is a big table
    that has lots of holes in it,
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    and there are guide marks around it,
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    and there's a bright light,
    as on this stage here.
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    The mice hate this and they try to escape,
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    and find the single hole that you see
    pointed at with an arrow,
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    where a tube is mounted underneath
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    where they can escape
    and feel comfortable in a dark hole.
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    So we teach them, over several days,
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    to find this space
    on these cues in the space,
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    and you can compare this for humans,
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    to finding your car in a parking lot
    after a busy day of shopping.
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    (Laughter)
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    Many of us have probably had
    some problems with that.
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    So, let's look at an old mouse here.
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    This is an old mouse
    that has memory problems,
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    as you'll notice in a moment.
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    It just looks into every hole,
    but it didn't form this spacial map
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    that would remind it where it was
    in the previous trial or the last day.
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    In stark contrast, this mouse here
    is a sibling of the same age,
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    but it was treated with young
    human plasma for three weeks,
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    with small injections every three days.
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    And as you noticed, it almost
    looks around, "Where am I?" --
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    and then walks straight
    to that hole and escapes.
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    So, it could remember where that hole was.
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    So by all means, this old mouse
    seems to be rejuvenated --
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    it functions more like a younger mouse.
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    And it also suggests
    that there is something
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    not only in young mouse plasma,
    but in young human plasma
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    that has the capacity
    to help this old brain.
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    So to summarize,
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    we find the old mouse, and its brain
    in particular, are malleable.
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    They're not set in stone;
    we can actually change them.
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    It can be rejuvenated.
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    Young blood factors can reverse aging,
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    and what I didn't show you --
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    in this model, the young mouse actually
    suffers from exposure to the old.
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    So there are old-blood factors
    that can accelerate aging.
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    And most importantly,
    humans may have similar factors,
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    because we can take young human
    blood and have a similar effect.
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    Old human blood, I didn't show you,
    does not have this effect;
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    it does not make the mice younger.
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    So, is this magic transferable to humans?
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    We're running a small
    clinical study at Stanford,
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    where we treat Alzheimer's patients
    with mild disease
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    with a pint of plasma
    from young volunteers, 20-year-olds,
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    and do this once a week for four weeks,
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    and then we look
    at their brains with imaging.
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    We test them cognitively,
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    and we ask their caregivers
    for daily activities of living.
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    What we hope is that there are
    some signs of improvement
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    from this treatment.
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    And if that's the case,
    that could give us hope
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    that what I showed you works in mice
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    might also work in humans.
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    Now, I don't think we will live forever.
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    But maybe we discovered
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    that the Fountain of Youth
    is actually within us,
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    and it has just dried out.
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    And if we can turn it
    back on a little bit,
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    maybe we can find the factors
    that are mediating these effects,
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    we can produce these factors synthetically
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    and we can treat diseases of aging,
    such as Alzheimer's disease
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    or other dementias.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How young blood might help reverse aging. Yes, really
Speaker:
Tony Wyss-Coray
Description:

Tony Wyss-Coray studies the impact of aging on the human body and brain. In this eye-opening talk, he shares new research from his Stanford lab and other teams which shows that a solution for some of the less great aspects of old age might actually lie within us all.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
13:35
  • A correction was made to this transcript on 1/15/16.

    At 3:06, the subtitle now reads: "molecular, mechanistic level"

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