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Can you really tell if a kid is lying?

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    Hi.
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    Let me ask the audience a question:
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    Did you ever lie as a child?
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    If you did, could you please
    raise your hand?
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    Wow! This is the most honest
    group of people I've ever met.
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    (Laughter)
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    So for the last 20 years,
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    I've been studying
    how children learn to tell lies.
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    And today, I'm going to share with you
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    some of the discoveries we have made.
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    But to begin, I'm going to tell you
    a story from Mr. Richard Messina,
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    who is my friend and an elementary
    school principal.
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    He got a phone call one day.
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    The caller says,
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    "Mr. Messina, my son Johnny
    will not come to school today
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    because he's sick."
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    Mr. Messina asks,
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    "Who am I speaking to, please?"
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    And the caller says,
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    "I am my father."
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    (Laughter)
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    So this story --
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    (Laughter)
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    sums up very nicely
    three common beliefs we have
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    about children and lying.
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    One, children only come to tell lies
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    after entering elementary school.
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    Two, children are poor liars.
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    We adults can easily detect their lies.
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    And three, if children lie
    at a very young age,
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    there must be some
    character flaws with them,
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    and they are going to become
    pathological liars for life.
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    Well, it turns out
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    all of the three beliefs are wrong.
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    We have been playing guessing games
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    with children all over the world.
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    Here is an example.
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    So in this game, we asked children
    to guess the numbers on the cards.
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    And we tell them if they win the game,
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    they are going to get a big prize.
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    But in the middle of the game,
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    we make an excuse and leave the room.
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    And before we leave the room,
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    we tell them not to peek at the cards.
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    Of course,
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    we have hidden cameras in the room
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    to watch their every move.
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    Because the desire
    to win the game is so strong,
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    more than 90 percent of children will peek
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    as soon as we leave the room.
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    (Laughter)
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    The crucial question is:
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    When we return and ask the children
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    whether or not they have peeked,
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    will the children who peeked confess
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    or lie about their transgression?
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    We found that regardless
    of gender, country, religion,
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    at two years of age,
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    30 percent lie,
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    70 percent tell the truth
    about their transgression.
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    At three years of age,
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    50 percent lie and 50 percent
    tell the truth.
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    At four years of age,
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    more than 80 percent lie.
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    And after four years of age,
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    most children lie.
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    So as you can see,
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    lying is really a typical part
    of development.
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    And some children begin to tell lies
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    as young as two years of age.
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    So now, let's take a closer look
    at the younger children.
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    Why do some but not all
    young children lie?
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    In cooking, you need good ingredients
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    to cook good food.
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    And good lying requires
    two key ingredients.
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    The first key ingredient
    is theory of mind,
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    or the mind-reading ability.
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    Mind reading is the ability to know
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    that different people have
    different knowledge about the situation
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    and the ability to differentiate
    between what I know
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    and what you know.
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    Mind reading is important for lying
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    because the basis of lying is that I know
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    you don't know
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    what I know.
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    Therefore, I can lie to you.
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    The second key ingredient
    for good lying is self-control.
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    It is the ability to control your speech,
    your facial expression
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    and your body language,
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    so that you can tell a convincing lie.
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    And we found that those young children
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    who have more advanced mind-reading
    and self-control abilities
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    tell lies earlier
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    and are more sophisticated liars.
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    As it turns out, these two abilities
    are also essential for all of us
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    to function well in our society.
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    In fact, deficits in mind-reading
    and self-control abilities
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    are associated with serious
    developmental problems,
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    such as ADHD and autism.
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    So if you discover your two-year-old
    is telling his or her first lie,
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    instead of being alarmed,
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    you should celebrate --
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    (Laughter)
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    because it signals that your child
    has arrived at a new milestone
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    of typical development.
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    Now, are children poor liars?
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    Do you think you can easily
    detect their lies?
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    Would you like to give it a try?
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    Yes? OK.
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    So I'm going to show you two videos.
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    In the videos,
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    the children are going to respond
    to a researcher's question,
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    "Did you peek?"
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    So try to tell me
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    which child is lying
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    and which child is telling the truth.
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    Here's child number one.
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    Are you ready?
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    (Video) Adult: Did you peek? Child: No.
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    Kang Lee: And this is child number two.
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    (Video) Adult: Did you peek? Child: No.
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    KL: OK, if you think
    child number one is lying,
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    please raise your hand.
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    And if you think child number two
    is lying, please raise your hand.
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    OK, so as a matter of fact,
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    child number one is telling the truth,
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    child number two is lying.
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    Looks like many of you are terrible
    detectors of children's lies.
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    (Laughter)
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    Now, we have played similar kinds of games
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    with many, many adults
    from all walks of life.
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    And we show them many videos.
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    In half of the videos, the children lied.
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    In the other half of the videos,
    the children told the truth.
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    And let's find out
    how these adults performed.
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    Because there are as many liars
    as truth tellers,
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    if you guess randomly,
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    there's a 50 percent chance
    you're going to get it right.
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    So if your accuracy is around 50 percent,
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    it means you are a terrible detector
    of children's lies.
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    So let's start with undergrads
    and law school students,
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    who typically have
    limited experience with children.
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    No, they cannot detect children's lies.
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    Their performance is around chance.
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    Now how about social workers
    and child-protection lawyers,
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    who work with children on a daily basis?
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    Can they detect children's lies?
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    No, they cannot.
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    (Laughter)
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    What about judges,
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    customs officers
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    and police officers,
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    who deal with liars on a daily basis?
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    Can they detect children's lies?
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    No, they cannot.
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    What about parents?
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    Can parents detect other children's lies?
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    No, they cannot.
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    What about, can parents
    detect their own children's lies?
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    No, they cannot.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    So now you may ask
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    why children's lies
    are so difficult to detect.
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    Let me illustrate this
    with my own son, Nathan.
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    This is his facial expression
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    when he lies.
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    (Laughter)
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    So when children lie,
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    their facial expression
    is typically neutral.
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    However, behind this neutral expression,
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    the child is actually experiencing
    a lot of emotions,
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    such as fear, guilt, shame
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    and maybe a little bit of liar's delight.
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    (Laughter)
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    Unfortunately, such emotions
    are either fleeting or hidden.
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    Therefore, it's mostly invisible to us.
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    So in the last five years,
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    we have been trying to figure out a way
    to reveal these hidden emotions.
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    Then we made a discovery.
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    We know that underneath our facial skin,
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    there's a rich network of blood vessels.
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    When we experience different emotions,
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    our facial blood flow changes subtly.
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    And these changes are regulated
    by the autonomic system
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    that is beyond our conscious control.
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    By looking at facial blood flow changes,
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    we can reveal people's hidden emotions.
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    Unfortunately, such emotion-related
    facial blood flow changes
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    are too subtle to detect by our naked eye.
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    So to help us reveal
    people's facial emotions,
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    we have developed a new imaging technology
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    we call "transdermal optical imaging."
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    To do so, we use a regular
    video camera to record people
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    when they experience
    various hidden emotions.
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    And then, using our image
    processing technology,
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    we can extract transdermal images
    of facial blood flow changes.
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    By looking at transdermal video images,
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    now we can easily see
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    facial blood flow changes associated
    with the various hidden emotions.
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    And using this technology,
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    we can now reveal the hidden emotions
    associated with lying,
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    and therefore detect people's lies.
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    We can do so noninvasively,
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    remotely, inexpensively,
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    with an accuracy at about 85 percent,
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    which is far better than chance level.
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    And in addition, we discovered
    a Pinocchio effect.
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    No, not this Pinocchio effect.
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    (Laughter)
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    This is the real Pinocchio effect.
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    When people lie,
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    the facial blood flow
    on the cheeks decreases,
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    and the facial blood flow
    on the nose increases.
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    Of course, lying is not the only situation
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    that will evoke our hidden emotions.
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    So then we asked ourselves,
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    in addition to detecting lies,
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    how can our technology be used?
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    One application is in education.
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    For example, using this technology,
    we can help this mathematics teacher
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    to identify the student in his classroom
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    who may experience high anxiety
    about the topic he's teaching
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    so that he can help him.
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    And also we can use this in health care.
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    For example, every day I Skype my parents,
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    who live thousands of miles away.
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    And using this technology,
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    I can not only find out
    what's going on in their lives
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    but also simultaneously monitor
    their heart rate, their stress level,
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    their mood and whether or not
    they are experiencing pain.
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    And perhaps in the future,
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    their risks for heart attack
    or hypertension.
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    And you may ask:
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    Can we use this also to reveal
    politicians' emotions?
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    (Laughter)
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    For example, during a debate.
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    Well, the answer is yes.
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    Using TV footage,
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    we could detect
    the politicians' heart rate,
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    mood and stress,
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    and perhaps in the future,
    whether or not they are lying to us.
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    We can also use this
    in marketing research,
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    for example, to find out
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    whether or not people like
    certain consumer products.
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    We can even use it in dating.
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    So for example,
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    if your date is smiling at you,
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    this technology can help you to determine
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    whether she actually likes you
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    or she is just trying to be nice to you.
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    And in this case,
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    she is just trying to be nice to you.
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    (Laughter)
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    So transdermal optical imaging technology
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    is at a very early stage of development.
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    Many new applications will come about
    that we don't know today.
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    However, one thing I know for sure
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    is that lying will never
    be the same again.
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    Thank you very much.
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    Xiè xie.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Can you really tell if a kid is lying?
Speaker:
Kang Lee
Description:

Are children poor liars? Do you think you can easily detect their lies? Developmental researcher Kang Lee studies what happens physiologically to children when they lie. They do it a lot, starting as young as two years old, and they're actually really good at it. Lee explains why we should celebrate when kids start to lie and presents new lie-detection technology that could someday reveal our hidden emotions.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
13:36
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    Xiè xie.
    should be transcribed as

    (Chinese) Thank you.

    6:31.29
    walks should be works.

    — Hiroko Kawano 2016-06-18

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