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Reconsidering the art museum in the 21st century | Dana Kletchka | TEDxPSU

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    Hi, I want you to indulge me
    for just a moment and I want you
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    to close your eyes and relax.
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    Sit in your chairs.
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    And I want you to think
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    about your earliest memories
    of an art museum.
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    What are the things
    that come to your mind?
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    Is it the building?
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    Is it the architecture?
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    Is it the people that you were with?
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    Is it the objects?
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    So I want you to keep that
    in the back of your mind
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    as I talk with you today
    because we'll come back to it.
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    But for now, open your eyes.
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    I first fell in love with art museums
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    when I was a little girl.
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    And my father would take
    my twin brother and I
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    to the Nelson Atkins Museum of Art
    in Kansas City, Missouri,
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    on the family free days.
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    And I remember going through the plaza,
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    sitting in the back of the car.
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    And he would drive us through
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    and I would see the sculpture garden.
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    And I would get so excited
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    because I knew what was about to happen.
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    And we would go and as he would
    try to find a place to park,
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    the excitement would well up in me.
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    And I would see Rodin's "The Thinker"
    sitting outside of the museum
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    with his hand underneath his chin,
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    his body tense in concentration,
    his elbow on his knee.
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    And we would walk by him
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    and go underneath these beautiful columns
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    and these front doors
    that just beckoned me in.
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    And we must have been there quite a bit.
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    We must have spent some time there
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    because I remember becoming very familiar
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    and finding these really beautiful things
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    that I connected with including
    Jan van Huysum's floral still life.
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    It's a memento mori
    called "Vase of Flowers".
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    And I remember thinking that if
    I could stand there long enough,
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    I could hear the buzzing of the bees
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    or I could touch the softness
    of the petals
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    or I might even be able to, you know,
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    smell the flowers themselves.
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    I also remember the exquisite
    beauty of a Caravaggio painting
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    of St John the Baptist.
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    And I remember his soft skin
    and his hair and his red cloak.
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    And I remember the cake
    of dirt underneath his toenails.
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    Like these are the things I remember?
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    And I just think back and can't believe it
    because I thought
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    that they had put
    all of these things here just for me.
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    I was a six year old kid
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    and they had put them there just for me.
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    And now, I've spent twenty years
    working in art museums
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    creating opportunities for people
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    to engage with one another
    and with art and with culture.
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    And I've thought a lot about the reasons
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    that people love to go to art museums.
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    And I've also thought
    an awful lot about the reasons
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    that people don't like to go.
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    And I'm really interested
    to see what will happen
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    with art museums
    in the twenty first century.
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    Now I have a quiz for you.
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    Museums in the United States
    are often compared
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    to two other kinds of institutions;
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    can anybody guess what they are?
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    Just shout it out.
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    Audience: Banks.
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    Dana Kletchka: Banks, okay,
    well that makes sense, anything else?
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    Audience: Libraries.
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    DK: Libraries, okay we have
    churches and libraries.
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    And this makes a lot of sense.
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    All three of them
    are repositories of culture.
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    They all have very specific locations.
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    They all have inspiration
    and knowledge that we're seeking.
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    They represent the richness
    of our culture intellectually,
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    spiritually, and creatively.
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    But for an awful lot of people,
    they are places of boredom
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    and stillness and quiet, right?
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    We all know the rules.
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    No talking.
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    No touching.
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    No food or drink.
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    No photography.
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    I could go on, but I won't.
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    And these rules are there
    for a reason, right?
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    To keep things safe, you know,
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    you've got to have things all ready to go.
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    However, they also tend to alienate people
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    and that also makes sense.
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    Even in the United States,
    art museums are the repositories
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    of culture that are descended
    from kings and queens.
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    They are housed in these
    intellectual spaces
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    and in these incredible
    architectural buildings.
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    They represent experiences
    that most of us can only dream of.
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    They are representative
    of the power of community
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    and of countries even.
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    So it's no wonder to me
    that a lot of people find museums
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    to be boring and elitist
    and perhaps even unnecessary.
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    But I'm here to argue that art museums
    cannot exist without you
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    in their current iteration.
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    And I would say that
    because we live in a world
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    where people are driven
    to seek new experiences,
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    to find out new information,
    and to connect with one another,
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    that you cannot exist without art museums.
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    Now, the National Endowment for the Arts
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    came out with a study a few years ago.
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    And it basically said
    that participation in the arts
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    is down dramatically
    over the last twenty years,
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    whether it's ballets
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    or orchestra concerts or exhibitions.
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    People are not walking
    and getting their behinds in seats
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    and they're not walking
    through the galleries.
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    And on one hand that's really distressing.
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    But on the other hand,
    we kind of know why.
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    There are people who have said
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    that even though they
    aren't going to these kinds
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    of cultural things
    they would otherwise like to go
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    and they gave three big reasons.
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    And the first one is time.
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    We don't have enough time
    to do the things that we need to do
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    much less the things that we want to do.
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    And there are some people
    that even more it's difficult
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    for them to find
    the transportation to get there
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    or find a way to get there.
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    A second thing - and if you have
    young kids you know
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    what I'm talking about.
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    If you have kids under the age of six,
    it is very difficult
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    for you to find the time
    to get your kids, get them ready,
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    put them in the car,
    schlep them over there,
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    and then once you get there
    there's nothing for them to do.
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    And I know that as a parent
    I am not going to go through that
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    because I don't want to hear
    the whining once we get there, right?
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    And the third reason that people
    are who would otherwise
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    want to engage with culture,
    the reason that they're not
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    is because of social experiences
    and the lack thereof.
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    And for me this
    is the most poignant reason.
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    They don't want to go
    to these things alone.
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    Even in situations where
    money is a difficulty,
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    that's something that can be overcome.
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    But the social part
    of not being with anybody
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    is not something people want to overcome.
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    So I'm not going to do that yet.
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    Okay so the National Endowment
    for the Arts
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    also had another study that came out,
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    so this is really paradoxical.
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    They actually said that people
    are engaging with culture just
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    as much as they did before.
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    And I know you're probably
    sitting there thinking
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    "Dana you just told me
    that people aren't going
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    to art museums, so what's up?"
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    And what's up is technology.
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    People are interfacing with technology.
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    They are downloading podcasts.
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    They are watching videos of concerts.
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    They are pulling up Google Art.
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    They are looking at exhibitions online.
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    And they are engaging
    with culture in a way
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    that makes the most sense
    to them in terms of time,
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    in terms of space, in terms of safety,
    and in terms of cost.
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    Now, I think that the problem with this
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    is that it doesn't give people
    the kind of experience
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    that you can get if you go
    to a rich, social, interesting place.
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    There is no replacement
    for actually going to a space
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    and being with other people
    and having a relationship with them
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    and the discussions that can happen.
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    Art museums occupy
    a rich space in our culture
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    and there's a reason for that.
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    You can go there and you can see things
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    that you've never seen before.
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    You can learn about times
    and places and other people
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    that are otherwise unimaginable.
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    Museums inspire us.
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    They help us to think
    and they help us to consider our place
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    in the world, in a world
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    that I would argue right
    now needs a lot of that.
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    However, you have to go.
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    You have to be there
    in order to experience this.
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    The NEA study that I initially
    told you about actually said
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    that the main reason people go
    to museums is because they want
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    to spend time with friends
    and family and they want
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    to learn something new
    but you can't do it unless you go.
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    Right now you can look up
    anything you want online.
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    There is no shortage
    of the information that you can find
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    on artists and paintings
    and sculptures and exhibitions.
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    But you can't experience it
    unless you are there physically
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    in person.
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    I want to make sure that everybody knows
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    that I'm not a luddite.
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    I am just as addicted to my iPhone
    as everybody else in this room -
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    and I know some of you in this room,
    so you know what I'm talking about.
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    And I really think
    that there are some amazing things
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    that museums are doing
    with technology right now in terms
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    of educational engagement.
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    It's working.
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    However, I want you to go back
    to your original thought
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    about being in a museum that I asked you
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    to conjure earlier today.
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    I am willing to bet
    that that thought does not include
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    interfacing with a screen.
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    Right now, art museums
    are doing a million different things
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    to bring you in, whether it's K-12 tours
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    or university experiences,
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    whether it's musical performances
    or poetry readings.
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    Sometimes we have little kids
    coming in with Pre-K groups
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    and reading groups and visits.
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    And all of these require you.
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    Your thoughts, your ideas,
    your understandings of the world,
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    your friends and your family
    all belong in an art museum.
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    And if a six year old girl
    from Kansas can be so inspired to go
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    into this grand museum
    and the things that I see can inspire me
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    to want to work in an art museum
    for the rest of my life,
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    just think about the experiences
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    that you can have in an art museum.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Reconsidering the art museum in the 21st century | Dana Kletchka | TEDxPSU
Description:

The perceptions and practices of American art museums have evolved over the last century, but what does this mean for art museum visitors? Art museum educator Dana Carlisle Kletchka discusses ways in which contemporary visitors engage with culture as well as common barriers to doing so, but argues that the rich social, emotional, physical, and intellectual aspects of art museum experiences are richer in person and cannot be replicated via digital technologies.

Dana Carlisle Kletchka fell in love with art museums at an early age and spent her professional life creating opportunities for others to fall in love with them, too. She facilitates educational and interpretive programming at the Palmer Museum of Art and works with faculty, staff, students, educators, and community members to create opportunities for engaging with and learning about permanent collections, special exhibitions, and each other. Her work in the arts calls her to promote justice and equity and to envision a more compassionate world.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

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