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The neuroscience of social conflict | Tim Phillips | TEDxBoston

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    As we look around the world today,
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    we see horrendous violence
    in the Middle East,
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    we see Russia invading Ukraine
    and threatening its neighbors,
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    and we see a growing desire
    by many to identify by set
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    ethnicity and ideology
    over any shared sense of nationhood.
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    We wonder: is this just
    the worst instincts of human nature
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    that we repeat
    generation after generation?
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    Or can we change our behavior?
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    Can we move away
    from these destructive mindsets
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    to live more peacefully
    with our communities and ourselves?
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    I've spent the last 25 years
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    working on conflict
    and reconciliation around the world,
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    and I want to tell you about
    two incredible individuals who did change.
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    Roelf Meyer was the Minister of Defense
    during apartheid in South Africa.
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    David Ervine was a loyalist
    or a protestant paramilitary
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    in Northern Ireland.
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    These two men experienced
    a profound transformation
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    that not only liberated them
    from destructive mindsets and behaviors
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    but through their transformation
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    help liberate millions
    from violence and repression.
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    And through their story we'll see
    that profound change is indeed possible.
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    I met Roelf in 1994
    when I invited him to Belfast
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    to help share his experience
    and help end apartheid
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    with leaders there
    who were struggling with change.
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    Roelf was the senior politician
    in South Africa.
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    Everybody thought
    he would be the next president.
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    He actually grew up thinking
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    that apartheid was not only good
    for whites but for blacks as well.
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    He built his entire career
    in the service of the apartheid state.
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    But along the way,
    something happened to him.
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    He came to realize
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    that the system he served and defended
    was corrupt and immoral and had to end.
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    David Ervine spent a decade in prison;
    many people called him a terrorist.
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    I later came to call him a friend.
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    He joined the UBF paramilitaries
    when, as a young teenager,
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    another teenager of the same age
    and same last name was killed
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    by an air-raid bomb.
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    David felt that everything
    that he and his community stood for
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    was under a mortal threat.
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    He felt that the best defense
    was a good offense.
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    But like Roelf,
    something happened to David.
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    He came to realize
    that the grievance and fear
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    that justified the use of violence
    against his neighbors
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    had become a vicious trap.
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    He had gone from killing
    to live to living to kill
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    and had to find a way
    to break out of that.
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    How did David and Roelf get to that point?
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    When Roelf was Minister of Defense,
    he interviewed a young ANC combatant,
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    and asked him:
    "Why did you join the gorilla movement?"
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    The young man told him
    that when he was a young child,
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    his family worked for an Africano farmer.
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    One day, while sitting
    in the back of the farmer's pickup truck
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    with the farmer's dog,
    it started to rain heavily.
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    The farmer got out of the car,
    went into the back, took the dog,
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    put it in the cabin, and left
    the young child in the downpour.
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    This unbelievable disregard
    for an another human being, a young child,
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    so shocked Roelf that it began to question
    the very system he served and defended.
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    David Ervine told me
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    that he and his other loyalist prisoners
    learned Irish in prison
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    so that they could understand
    what the IRA prisoners were saying.
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    In time, he came to understand
    that he had more in common
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    with these working class Catholics
    than many in his own community.
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    He felt that their shared experience
    of exclusion was a far deeper bond
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    that what divided them
    as Catholics and Protestants.
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    David and Roelf shared a journey
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    in which they realized they were stuck
    in mindsets that had to end.
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    Roelf went on to convince F. W. de Klerk
    to release Nelson Mandela from prison,
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    and he led the negotiations
    to end apartheid.
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    David Ervine became
    a principal negotiator,
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    and as former senator,
    George Mitchell said:
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    "Helped bring the loyalist paramilitaries
    out of the Dark Ages into peace."
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    Is their story unusual?
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    Over these 25 years, I've come to believe
    that while every country will have
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    its own unique experience
    with conflict and repression,
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    people respond
    to those experiences as humans.
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    It's the same around the world.
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    I know from my own experience
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    what fear, rejection,
    and humiliation feels like.
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    These emotions know
    no geographic boundaries.
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    Being bullied by your schoolmates is
    biologically, and fundamentally,
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    no different than being humiliated
    in Belfast or Johannesburg.
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    In fact, neuroscience is now showing us
    that we are deeply emotional beings
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    that we need to feel safe and acknowledged
    to engage fully in the world.
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    Our brain processes
    are deeply unconscious;
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    they blend emotion and cognition
    in the service of survival.
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    Our brains are plastic; they can change,
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    and we can overcome
    deep-seated fear, bias, and trauma
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    to live more peacefully within ourselves
    and within our own communities.
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    This is a universal experience.
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    Some recent findings in neuroscience
    help illustrate this very powerfully.
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    And I believe that we can begin
    to take what we're finding,
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    match it with experience
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    and begin to address
    the challenges we face in the world.
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    A number of years ago,
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    some social scientists discovered
    the concept of sacred values.
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    Those values that help shape
    our core identity;
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    they are really important to who we are.
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    For some it could be
    a deep religious belief,
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    the protection of one's child,
    or a deep love of country.
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    Neuroimaging is now showing us
    that we process sacred values
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    in different regions of the brain
    than cost-benefit calculations;
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    that we respond with moral outrage,
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    show aggression, and hold on
    more deeply to those sacred values
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    when we feel
    that we're under threat.
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    To millions of Americans,
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    the Second Amendment
    is a deeply felt sacred value;
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    it's core to their identity;
    it helps shape who they are in the world.
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    It's not just about the right to be armed;
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    it's tied to notions of freedom, heritage,
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    and the ability to protect
    what's really important to them.
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    Let's look what happened after Sandy Hook.
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    Rather than seeing an increase
    in gun control across the country,
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    we've been seeing
    a loosening of gun legislation.
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    And many believers in the Second Amendment
    responded with outrage.
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    They became aggressive, and they held
    onto their sacred beliefs more deeply,
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    and with what we know about sacred values,
    this shouldn't be a surprise.
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    It was a core threat to their identity.
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    We are more polarized
    on this issue than ever.
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    And the question is: can we apply
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    what neuroscience is telling us
    about sacred values to this issue?
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    What research shows us is
    that sacred values have to be recognized.
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    We have to let somebody know
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    that we acknowledge
    how important this is to them.
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    We don't have to share
    those sacred values,
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    but we do have to acknowledge
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    that they exist and are important
    to that individual.
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    Only then can we get to common ground;
    only then can that individual not feel
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    that what's sacred to them
    is under threat,
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    and we can begin to have a conversation
    about one of these most difficult issues.
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    When we look at the world around us
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    and we wonder if we can change,
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    we can look at other insights
    that neuroscience is providing us.
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    When we look at the rise of ISIS
    in Iraq and Syria, we wonder
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    how did this small group
    of fanatics rise so quickly
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    and take over so many large segments
    of this country of Iraq, and in Syria?
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    They could not have gotten
    there on their own;
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    they could not have done that
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    unless they tapped into the humiliation,
    explotion, and exclusion
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    that many Sunnis felt
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    under the Shia-dominated government
    of Prime Minister al-Maliki.
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    I know from my own experience
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    that exclusion is
    the main driver of conflict.
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    When we feel excluded,
    we don't feel safe.
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    When we feel excluded,
    we feel that we can't really engage
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    to do what's normal to us,
    for ourselves or for our communities.
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    Now we have
    a biological basis for exclusion.
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    Some recent neuroimaging shows
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    that we experience
    social rejection as physical pain,
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    that that part of our brain
    that registers trauma
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    can not fully differentiate
    between emotional and physical trauma.
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    We share that with other mammals.
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    Think of that animal that's pulled
    from the safety of the herd by a predator.
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    That's a direct threat to their survival,
    and we experience that the same way.
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    Our capacity to think rationally
    is depended on feeling safe.
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    So, when we think
    of these challenges in the world,
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    it's important to remember
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    that we have to recognize
    what drives us as behavior.
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    When I think of David Ervine,
    he said to me:
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    "Terrorists have to come from somewhere,
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    and exclusion and injustice
    is a powerful place to come from."
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    David went on to say
    that he felt that his capacity
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    to protect what is sacred
    to him and his community
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    - his religion and being British -
    could only be fully realized
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    in a country that recognized
    what was sacred to those around him.
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    Roelf Meyer came to see
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    that a system built
    on exclusion would never last.
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    What this tells us is
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    that we have to build relationships
    and governments of inclusion.
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    Without that, we will drive
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    more and more of our communities
    into violence and division.
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    As we look around the world,
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    and we see deepening conflict,
    increasing division,
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    and we make disappear,
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    I think it's important to keep in mind
    that people can change;
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    that people can fundamentally change,
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    and to see someone like David,
    and to see someone like Roelf
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    is empowering and liberating.
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    We now know that we can rewire our brains,
    that change is possible,
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    and that by combing what we know
    of these insights, and with practice,
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    we can begin to reframe
    the challenges we face in the world.
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    And I believe, to begin to live
    in a more peaceful world.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
The neuroscience of social conflict | Tim Phillips | TEDxBoston
Description:

This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
How can the latest breakthroughs in brain science stop violence?
Tim Phillips is a pioneer in the field of conflict resolution and reconciliation and co-founder of Beyond Conflict, a global non-profit initiative founded in 1992. Using the unique approach of shared experience, Beyond Conflict helped catalyze the field of transitional justice and is internationally recognized for contributions to peace and reconciliation in several countries worldwide.

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Duration:
11:58

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