What makes a good society? A case study on Greece | Michael Green | TEDxThessaloniki
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0:15 - 0:18What makes a good society?
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0:20 - 0:24How do I know if my country,
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0:24 - 0:30my region, my city, is a good society?
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0:32 - 0:33When we ask that question,
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0:33 - 0:38the answer we get back
often comes in a monetary term, -
0:38 - 0:43measured in terms of Gross
Domestic Product, or GDP. -
0:45 - 0:48We often find that our media,
our politicians, will tell us: -
0:48 - 0:52"The economy is growing;
our lives are getting better." -
0:53 - 1:00But we know the GDP is flawed.
GDP can be misleading. -
1:01 - 1:05Wars and natural disasters
are good for GDP, -
1:06 - 1:09but doesn't sound
much like progress to me. -
1:10 - 1:13GDP is also incomplete.
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1:13 - 1:17GDP has nothing to say
about the environment. -
1:17 - 1:21GDP is blind to issues
of fairness and justice. -
1:22 - 1:28GDP is not a good measure
of whether we have a good society. -
1:30 - 1:35For some people, the answer
is something different: it's happiness. -
1:35 - 1:37It's quite easy to measure happiness:
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1:37 - 1:39you can send out
surveys to the population, -
1:39 - 1:42ask them how satisfied
they are with their lives, -
1:42 - 1:45and come back and come up with a score.
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1:45 - 1:49But is a happy society a good society?
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1:50 - 1:55And don't get me wrong, I like
being happy, I'm sure you do, too. -
1:55 - 1:59But is happiness really
what it means to be a good society? -
2:00 - 2:04The British philosopher, John Stuart Mill,
famously posed the question: -
2:04 - 2:10"Surely it is better to be Socrates
dissatisfied than a pig satisfied?" -
2:11 - 2:13And I think it's a really important point.
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2:13 - 2:20It's good to be happy, but happiness is
not a complete measure of a good society. -
2:21 - 2:25For an answer to this question,
I'll turn to a different philosopher, -
2:25 - 2:29one who was writing 2,500 years ago,
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2:29 - 2:33Yes, you've guessed it,
he's from Greece. -
2:33 - 2:36I'm talking of course about Aristotle.
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2:37 - 2:40He talked a lot about
what it means to live a good life, -
2:40 - 2:43and the importance
of us making virtuous choices. -
2:43 - 2:46But in order to make those choices,
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2:46 - 2:50he said that society must create
the preconditions to do so. -
2:51 - 2:55For him a good society
was one that created the conditions -
2:55 - 2:58for what he called "eudaimonia",
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2:58 - 3:04what is normally translated into English
as "flourishing", or "thriving". -
3:04 - 3:04That to me sounds
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3:04 - 3:08like a very good definition
of what it means to be a good society, -
3:08 - 3:12one in which individuals
are flourishing and thriving. -
3:13 - 3:15I'm pleased to say that I'm here today
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3:15 - 3:19to tell you that my colleagues
and I have been working out a way -
3:19 - 3:24to measure how much our societies
promote flourishing and thriving. -
3:24 - 3:28I'm here to share with you
the results for Greece. -
3:29 - 3:32The measure we have is called
the Social Progress Index, -
3:32 - 3:37which asks three fundamental
questions about any society. -
3:37 - 3:43First, are the basic needs of survival
of every individual being met? -
3:44 - 3:47Food, water, shelter, safety.
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3:48 - 3:52Secondly, does everyone
have the building blocks of a better life? -
3:52 - 3:57Education, information, health,
and a sustainable environment? -
3:58 - 4:02Finally, does every individual
have the opportunity -
4:02 - 4:04to pursue their hopes and dreams?
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4:04 - 4:09With rights, freedom of choice,
freedom from discrimination, -
4:09 - 4:12and access to the world's
most advanced knowledge? -
4:13 - 4:17Using 50 different indicators, we bring
together all these different factors -
4:17 - 4:22to create a score for a society
on a scale from zero to 100. -
4:23 - 4:26Let me show you the results,
I'll show you one on this chart. -
4:26 - 4:30What I have done is I've put
social progress on the vertical axis, -
4:30 - 4:32higher is better.
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4:32 - 4:37Then just for comparison,
just for fun, I've put GDP per capita. -
4:38 - 4:45The country in the world with the highest
social progress is ... Norway. -
4:46 - 4:51Norway scores 88 out of 100;
not perfect, but the highest in the world. -
4:52 - 4:54And the country
with the least social progress, -
4:54 - 4:59I'm sorry to say is Central
African Republic, with a score 31. -
5:00 - 5:03Greece is somewhere in the middle
between those two scores. -
5:03 - 5:07Where? I'm pleased to say
a lot closer to Norway -
5:07 - 5:09than Central African Republic.
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5:09 - 5:13Greece scores 74 out of 100
on social progress. -
5:14 - 5:15What does that mean?
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5:15 - 5:19Let's give you some context
in terms of some of your neighbours. -
5:19 - 5:23Bulgaria and Romania
are slightly lower on social progress, -
5:23 - 5:25they're also lower on GDP.
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5:26 - 5:29Italy and Spain are higher
on social progress, -
5:29 - 5:32and also a bit higher on GDP.
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5:33 - 5:37You also might look at, says countries
like Poland in Central Europe, -
5:37 - 5:40these tend to have
a very similar GDP to Greece, -
5:40 - 5:44but slightly higher social progress.
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5:44 - 5:48That's sort of how Greece is doing,
in the middle of a pack. -
5:48 - 5:51But we can actually drill down further.
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5:51 - 5:53My colleagues and I have been working
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5:53 - 5:57with the Regional Policy Director
of the European Commission, -
5:57 - 6:01to produce a social progress index
for the Regions of the EU. -
6:01 - 6:06In Euro speech this is called
the NUTS 2 Regions; there are 272 of them, -
6:06 - 6:12and we've created a Social Progress Index
comparing all of these; and here we are. -
6:12 - 6:15Here's on the same chart
social progress on the vertical axis, -
6:15 - 6:17GDP per capita on the horizontal axis.
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6:17 - 6:21Each of the Regions of the EU
are represented by a dot. -
6:21 - 6:25I want to make two
general observations first. -
6:25 - 6:27I'm going to put in now
the regression curve -
6:27 - 6:32that shows the average relationship
between GDP and social progress. -
6:32 - 6:33We do actually see,
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6:33 - 6:39that, as societys get richer,
social progress does tend to increase. -
6:39 - 6:44but we also see that there's
lots of noise around the trend line. -
6:44 - 6:48Simply put, GDP is not destiny.
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6:49 - 6:54Other choices really matter in determining
our level of social progress. -
6:55 - 6:57The second thing to notice:
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6:57 - 7:02the countries that are above the line
are the ones that are over-performing, -
7:02 - 7:04they're the ones doing a good job
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7:04 - 7:08in turning their economic resources
into social progress. -
7:08 - 7:12The countries below the line
are those underperforming, -
7:12 - 7:18not doing such a good job
at turning their wealth into well-being. -
7:19 - 7:20How's Greece doing?
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7:20 - 7:25We zoom into a certain part of the chart
where we'll find the regions of Greece. -
7:25 - 7:28Zoom zoom. Here we are.
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7:29 - 7:34Which region of Greece
has the highest social progress? -
7:35 - 7:38It is ... Crete.
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7:39 - 7:42The second highest is Northern Aegean,
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7:43 - 7:47the third highest is Central Macedonia.
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7:49 - 7:53That was complete rubbish.
You're supposed to cheer! -
7:54 - 7:55(Applause)
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7:55 - 7:59No, no, no; we're doing
this one again, OK? -
7:59 - 8:00(Laughter)
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8:01 - 8:04Now hush, then when I say this, you cheer.
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8:04 - 8:07Nice and simple as this, OK,
just follow the instructions. -
8:07 - 8:12The third highest is Central Macedonia.
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8:12 - 8:14(Applause) (Cheers)
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8:18 - 8:22What you're probably starting to notice
is that these are not necessarily -
8:22 - 8:26the most economically developed
regions of Greece. -
8:26 - 8:29In fact, the three richest regions,
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8:29 - 8:34Attica, Southern Aegean,
and Western Macedonia, -
8:34 - 8:37all score lower on social progress.
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8:37 - 8:40Let me pop in all the regions of Greece
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8:40 - 8:44and what we see is that Epirus,
the poorest region of Greece, -
8:44 - 8:47has quite a high level of social progress.
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8:47 - 8:50The Peloponnese has
the lowest level of social progress, -
8:50 - 8:52but it isn't the poorest region.
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8:53 - 8:57GDP per capita actually
isn't a good predictor -
8:57 - 9:01of how well the regions of Greece
are performing on social progress. -
9:02 - 9:06What we can do now is drill in
a bit further into this data, -
9:06 - 9:08and look at how
the different regions of Greece -
9:08 - 9:12are performing on the different aspects
of social progress. -
9:12 - 9:15Let me start in the area
we call Basic Human Needs: -
9:15 - 9:18the food, water, shelter, safety stuff.
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9:19 - 9:21There's actually some good news here
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9:21 - 9:25which is most regions of Greece
are clustered pretty tightly -
9:25 - 9:26around the curve.
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9:27 - 9:33They're performing close to the average,
with one exception as you can see: Attica. -
9:34 - 9:35This is very interesting,
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9:35 - 9:39because this is actually a pattern
we see in other capital regions: -
9:39 - 9:43in my city, London;
in Brussels, the capital of Europe. -
9:43 - 9:47These capital regions
seem to have high GDP, -
9:47 - 9:52but aren't able to convert those resources
into meeting the needs of the population -
9:52 - 9:54much better than other regions.
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9:54 - 9:58I don't know why, but I think it's
an interesting question for policy makers -
9:58 - 9:59in those kinds of regions,
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9:59 - 10:04and asks important questions
about how they're using their resources. -
10:05 - 10:07That's basic human needs.
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10:07 - 10:10The next dimension
is Foundations of Well-Being. -
10:10 - 10:12The story here is not so good.
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10:12 - 10:14We've got a couple of regions
above the line, -
10:14 - 10:17but actually most Greek regions
are below the line, -
10:17 - 10:20they're underperforming on this issue.
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10:20 - 10:22What's driving this?
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10:22 - 10:23It was a couple of things.
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10:23 - 10:26First of all, every single Greek region
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10:26 - 10:30underperforms on the area
of access to basic knowledge. -
10:30 - 10:33It seems that the basic education
schooling system -
10:33 - 10:35is not performing as well as it should be.
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10:35 - 10:37That's what the data says.
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10:37 - 10:41The second area, where all the regions
of Greece are underperforming, -
10:41 - 10:44is on access to information
and communications: -
10:44 - 10:46Internet, mobile phones, etc.
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10:46 - 10:50Again, that's an interesting finding:
every region is underperforming there. -
10:51 - 10:56There's also some good news here,
and it's actually about Epirus. -
10:57 - 11:03This region of Greece has far and way
the highest score on health and wellness. -
11:05 - 11:10It's the poorest region of Greece,
but it achieves the best health outcomes. -
11:10 - 11:15I don't know why, you'll have to tell me;
I think this is a very important finding, -
11:15 - 11:18because if we can find out
what Epirus is doing right, -
11:18 - 11:22then those lessons can actually be shared
with other regions of Greece, -
11:22 - 11:26and other regions of the EU.
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11:26 - 11:29The third dimension is opportunity.
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11:29 - 11:33Here, I'm sad to say,
we get the most negative story. -
11:33 - 11:38Every region of Greece
is underperforming on opportunity. -
11:38 - 11:43This is about trust in the police,
trust in the legal institutions, -
11:43 - 11:47corruption, discrimination,
gender equality. -
11:48 - 11:53It's a very, very strong finding,
and a real issue of concern. -
11:53 - 11:56By the way, analysing the data,
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11:56 - 12:01we see a very strong relationship
between opportunity and life satisfaction. -
12:01 - 12:05Having low school opportunities
is not good for making you happy, -
12:05 - 12:07if that's what you care about.
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12:07 - 12:13That's a bit of a sad result,
so let me finish with a bit good news, -
12:13 - 12:16which is that, within opportunities
there is one component, -
12:16 - 12:19which is access to advanced knowledge.
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12:19 - 12:21Here, it's a better story.
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12:21 - 12:24A very wide range of scores
for the regions of Greece, -
12:24 - 12:28but actually the majority of them
are above the line. -
12:28 - 12:29And I'm very pleased to see
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12:29 - 12:33that actually Central Macedonia
performs particularly well. -
12:33 - 12:34(Applause)
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12:39 - 12:43Ladies and gentlemen,
our world is on the move. -
12:44 - 12:47Where it goes to, is our decision.
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12:48 - 12:54The Social Progress Index
shows us that we're not slaves to GDP, -
12:54 - 12:56or anonymous economic forces.
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12:56 - 12:59Our choices matter.
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12:59 - 13:02Let's choose to live in good societies,
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13:02 - 13:08where everyone has the opportunity
not just to survive, but to thrive. -
13:08 - 13:09Thank you.
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13:09 - 13:11(Applause)
- Title:
- What makes a good society? A case study on Greece | Michael Green | TEDxThessaloniki
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In his talk, Michael Green presents the findings of his research regarding the Social Progress Index in Greece. Traditionally, happiness is measured in terms of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and it is believed that the higher the GDP is, the happier the people are. This is not the case though. What he tells us is that money does not bring happiness. It is other factors that make a society happy, that make a society “good". In order to measure happiness, he takes into account three key areas of well-being, i.e. human basic needs, foundations of well-being, and opportunity. His research showed that the position of Greece is relatively high in the Social Progress Index. Green tells his audience that social progress depends on our choices, not GDP, and urges everyone to “choose to live in good societies where everyone has the opportunity not just to survive, but to thrive”.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
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