(h) TROM - 2.9 Justice
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0:03 - 0:08[Justice]
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0:10 - 0:14The language we use in the monetary
system is subject to interpretation -
0:14 - 0:19and our behaviour is created by
the enviroment, which is unequal. -
0:19 - 0:23If we think the genes can predispose
certain behaviours, -
0:23 - 0:28then the present justice system
is rendered useless. -
0:28 - 0:32If the environment is the same for everyone,
and you take into account genes, -
0:32 - 0:36then the justice system would be fairer.
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0:36 - 0:40But why do you need a justice system?
Because there are injustices? -
0:41 - 0:43But why there are injustices?
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0:43 - 0:47Because of the enviroment,
products and services scarcity, -
0:47 - 0:50because of inequality among people?
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0:50 - 0:53In the monetary system
people are not equal. -
0:53 - 0:57The differences between
social classes can be huge. -
0:57 - 1:02So a justice system will not be useful
in the monetary system. -
1:02 - 1:07It's just an accepted idea, nothing more.
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1:14 - 1:18Even worst sight: criminal behaviour.
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1:18 - 1:20Now what is a serial killer?
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1:20 - 1:24Is a serial killer a guy with a machine
gun that kills a lot of people? -
1:24 - 1:27Or what is a killer?
What is a criminal? -
1:27 - 1:33Well king Solomon had a thousand wifes,
he would be arrested as a bigamist today. -
1:33 - 1:39So what you called "admirable behaviour"
in the past, doesn't makes sense. -
1:39 - 1:43I think that all lawyers would be considered
criminals in the future, -
1:44 - 1:48this goes along with all politicians
will be considered criminals, -
1:48 - 1:51because they say things
people like to hear. -
1:51 - 1:54They don't always speak the truth, because
that wouldn't get them anywhere. -
1:54 - 1:59So I would say that insurance company
that put out small print -
1:59 - 2:01that is with criminal intentions.
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2:01 - 2:05So what you call a criminal depends
of the culture you live in. -
2:05 - 2:08When the romans used to
feed christians to lions -
2:08 - 2:11that was not considered
criminal behaviour. -
2:11 - 2:14Today it would be considered
criminal behaviour. -
2:14 - 2:18So before you talk to people about:
there's too much crime in the world, -
2:18 - 2:22ask them what they mean by crime.
Do they mean -
2:22 - 2:27false advertising? That mean what the drug
companies claim about their pills? -
2:27 - 2:31Does that mean when the doctor
says you need an operation, -
2:31 - 2:37is he trying to pay off a new boat or a house,
or do you really need the operation? -
2:37 - 2:41In other words: it's very hard
to tell criminal behaviour, -
2:41 - 2:46and unless you define your terms of
what you mean by criminal behaviour, -
2:46 - 2:52the latest definition of a criminal is
one who is caught. -
2:55 - 3:01You can't walk on to a judge and say, "Everything
you do is based on ignorance". -
3:01 - 3:04He says: "How do you see that?"
"How do you mean that?" -
3:04 - 3:11I say, If you ever run into a judge that
talks that way, you have way there. -
3:11 - 3:15I´ve never meet a person who says:
"How you mean that?" You know. -
3:15 - 3:19So if you say to a judge: everything
you do is erroneous, unreal, -
3:20 - 3:22you might as well be a head hunter,
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3:22 - 3:27you putting people in jail, you judging people and
you know nothing about their backgrounds. -
3:27 - 3:32He has no pity about them:
"He's a criminal, he's been in jail before." -
3:32 - 3:37That's his yardstick, associated memory.
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3:37 - 3:43So all our actions are based on associated memory,
do you understand what that means? -
3:43 - 3:47Your experience, not the truth.
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3:48 - 3:52There's a lot of people that
can afford an attorney -
3:52 - 3:56who can lock up the person claim "he rapes",
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3:56 - 4:01and they can say: "Well, didn't you claim that
ones before in another court? -
4:01 - 4:04Or make her look like a cheap prostitute,
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4:04 - 4:05you know what I mean?
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4:05 - 4:10If you could have a good enough attorney,
he can take anything anybody says -
4:10 - 4:14and twist it around. Do you understand?
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4:14 - 4:19And if you can afford only a mediocre attorney
you might wind up two years in jail. -
4:19 - 4:27If you can afford a good attorney you might get two
weeks probation, you know, or a month probation. -
4:27 - 4:33So attorneys must understand
by man alone they are corrupt. -
4:33 - 4:40If you can hire a better attorney than I can, you are corrupt,
so is the attorney, for defending you. -
4:40 - 4:47If he was honest, he'd said to the other attorney:
you got a point there, I can´t disagree with you. -
4:47 - 4:50If the attorneys were honest.
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4:53 - 4:59The punishment of this justice system is
to deprive man for what the system offers. -
4:59 - 5:03Objects, services, access, information,
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5:03 - 5:06trapping him in some rooms almost empty.
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5:07 - 5:10But to get in possessions of these services
and goods in the first place -
5:10 - 5:13you have to work for the monetary system.
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5:13 - 5:16Do not forget that.
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5:16 - 5:20So, the justice system deprives
a man from participation -
5:20 - 5:26in the monetary system, locking him into a virtually
empty room for a period of time. -
5:27 - 5:32Let's see the effects that prisons have
among prisoners and guards. -
5:33 - 5:39In the early 1970s, an experiment of the psychology of
imprisoned men was carried out of Stanford University -
5:39 - 5:47by psychologist Zimbardo and his colleagues, who created their own jail
in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. -
5:47 - 5:51The students who volunteered for the study were carefully tested.
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5:51 - 5:56Each had to be psychologically and physically healthy to participate.
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5:56 - 6:02Some students were then randomly selected
to act as prisoners while others became guards. -
6:02 - 6:08The researchers surprised the prisoners by having
them arrested at their homes and dormitories. -
6:08 - 6:13The prisoners went by a series of rituals
to establish their new lowly status. -
6:13 - 6:19They lived in tiny cells 24 hours a day cut
off from their usual surroundings. -
6:19 - 6:31Prisoner 819 did a bad thing! Prisoner 819 did
a bad thing! Prisoner 819 did a bad thing! ... -
6:31 - 6:34The guards however only worked 8 hours shifts,
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6:34 - 6:39and they returned to their normal routines
as students when off the job. -
6:40 - 6:44What happens surprise everyone,
including Zimbardo. -
6:44 - 6:46The illusion became the reality.
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6:46 - 6:53The boundary between the world these persons were
playing and his real personal identity was erased. -
6:58 - 7:01Nice boys became brutal guards,
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7:01 - 7:04healthy kids got sick.
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7:05 - 7:08Active ones became passive and zombie like prisoners.
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7:09 - 7:11The situation became so overpowering
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7:11 - 7:16that many of the prisoners developed extreme
stress reactions and had to be released. -
7:16 - 7:22...(incomprehensible) I can't go, to a doctor, anything
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7:22 - 7:29I can't dinner... I don´t know how to explain...
Stop it! I wanna go out!!! Now!!! -
7:30 - 7:34damn it... Stop! You don't know,
you don't know... -
7:34 - 7:41Jesus Christ. I´m pulling up inside.
Don't you know? -
7:41 - 7:45Similar sort were at the end of only 36 hours into the study,
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7:45 - 7:50each day after that another prisioner had a similar reaction.
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7:50 - 7:53And so at the end of 5 days we had 5 kids.
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7:53 - 7:57Kids we choosed because they were normal
and healthy, having emotional breakdowns. -
7:57 - 8:01But no one ever said: I quit the experiment.
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8:01 - 8:03They had lost all perspectives.
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8:03 - 8:07What kind of guard would you be?
Sadistic or supportive? -
8:07 - 8:11Would you be a conforming prisoner,
or a heroic resistant? -
8:11 - 8:17The prison study, like Milgram's experiment,
is not typical of research in social psychology. -
8:17 - 8:24Some psychologists feel those studies violate ethical
guidelines, it should never have been done. -
8:25 - 8:30At times even Zimbardo forgot it was an experiment
and enacted like a prison warden. -
8:32 - 8:34Though the experiment was
mentalized two weeks, -
8:34 - 8:37it was called off after 6 days.
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8:37 - 8:41And I'm giving a role, I mean a job,
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8:41 - 8:44say your job is to keep these people in line,
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8:44 - 8:48then you're not similar to that person
except you are acting a different role. -
8:48 - 8:54You really become that person, what you put on that guard
uniform, you put on the glasses, you pick the knife stick, -
8:54 - 8:59and you know, you act a part,
that's your costume, -
8:59 - 9:03and you have to act accordingly,
when you put it on. -
9:03 - 9:08I really thought that I was incapable
of this kind of behaviour. -
9:08 - 9:19I was... surprised, I was displeased to find out
that i could... I could really be a.... -
9:19 - 9:23that I could act in a way I was so...
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9:24 - 9:28so absolutely unaccustomed to anything
I would even really dream of doing, -
9:28 - 9:35and how I was doing it,
I didn't feel any regret, -
9:35 - 9:40I didn't feel any guilt to this...
only after, -
9:40 - 9:46aftewards I began to reflect on what i had done,
I began to... this behavior began to dominate -
9:47 - 9:54and I realize this was... this was a part of me
I hadn't really noticed before. -
9:54 - 9:59It feels as a prisoner. I don´t... regarded
some experiment or a simulation, -
9:59 - 10:05but just a prison that was run by psychologists
instead of run by the state. -
10:05 - 10:11I began to feel that... the identity,
that the person that I was -
10:11 - 10:16that had decided to go to prison
was distant from me, -
10:16 - 10:22was removed... so finally...
I wasn't that... I was 416 -
10:22 - 10:26I was really my number... and 416 was
going to have to decide what to do. -
10:26 - 10:32It let me in on some knowledge
that I've never experienced first hand. -
10:32 - 10:34I read about it, I read a lot about it,
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10:34 - 10:38but I've never experienced this first hand,
I've never seen someone turn that way. -
10:38 - 10:42And I know you are a nice guy, you know?
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10:42 - 10:47You understand? I do,
I do know you are a nice guy. -
10:47 - 10:50I don't get that because
I know what you can turn into, -
10:50 - 10:53I know what you are willing to do,
if you say: -
10:53 - 10:58"Oh well I'm not gonna hurt anybody, oh well it's
a limited situation, it's over in two weeks". -
10:58 - 11:02-Well, you in position what
would you do then? -
11:02 - 11:04-I don't know.
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11:10 - 11:15[Alternative solutions]
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11:19 - 11:23The solution could be an attempt
to escape the situations -
11:23 - 11:26that requires justice: prevention.
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11:26 - 11:31Again, education, and for extreme cases,
for example mental illness, -
11:31 - 11:33medical aid.
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11:34 - 11:37The monetary system can not
prevent such situations -
11:37 - 11:40because people aren't considered equal.
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11:40 - 11:44There can be large differences
between social classes. -
12:11 - 12:14Environment creates behaviour.
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12:15 - 12:18Predisposing genes are triggered
by the environment. -
12:18 - 12:22Language is subject to interpretation.
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12:22 - 12:24Today's environment is uneven.
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12:24 - 12:29With these influences,
a justice system is useless.
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- (h) TROM - 2.9 Justice
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