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Learning about the brain changes everything | David Rock | TEDxTokyo

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    It's a delight to be here,
    I think these events are very important.
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    One thing I discovered is great ideas
    don't spread by themselves quite often;
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    they need a little help.
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    Case in point being:
    the rest of the world
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    would all have
    wonderful Japanese toilets.
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    If great ideas spread on their own.
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    So I think these events
    are very important.
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    I spend my days doing something
    that I'm very excited about.
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    I help leaders and managers
    in mostly large organizations,
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    make better decisions, be more reflective,
    stay cool under pressure,
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    and most importantly,
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    be better at influencing others
    and collaborating with others.
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    You can imagine I'm fairly busy;
    there's plenty of work to do there.
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    But one of the things I discovered
    about five years ago,
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    which was very surprising to me,
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    was I discovered that teaching people
    about their brain
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    had a profound effect on their ability
    to understand themselves,
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    and understand others.
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    Teaching people about their brain
    made them far more effective
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    at whatever they wanted to achieve.
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    I was very surprised by that,
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    it wasn't where I'd expected
    I would end up.
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    But for the last five years
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    I've been really passionate about
    decoding, deciphering, translating
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    the incredible neuroscience coming out
    and making it accessible to people.
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    So those of you who are
    change agents in the room,
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    and I dare say that many of you here
    are change agents,
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    I want to let you in on a few secrets,
    I want to give you possibly some tools
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    that will help you
    spread your ideas more effectively.
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    What I found is learning about the brain
    does change everything,
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    and I'm going to give you four reasons
    how this happens.
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    I've been thinking about this
    for some years now.
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    There are four reasons why it's so useful
    to learn about the brain.
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    First one is a thing
    called a novelty effect.
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    This is my daughter at 18 months.
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    She had a wonderful experience
    at that time in her life
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    of being at a TED conference
    all year round,
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    because everything was kind of new
    and innovative and exciting.
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    When you're young, new things
    really impact your dopamine levels,
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    and you get very excited, when we're older
    we don't see new things very often.
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    When you talk to leaders or teachers
    or government people, educators, anyone,
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    from a brain perspective,
    you're giving them a novel perspective,
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    and that novelty effect
    has quite an impact.
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    It's kind of what Businessweek focused
    on when they wrote about this field;
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    they said it was kind of
    just the novelty effect,
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    actually, it's much more,
    but the novelty effect is really useful,
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    it does get people's attention,
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    and as I'll mention,
    attention does change the brain.
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    So the novelty effect is powerful,
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    but it is so much more
    than just the novelty effect.
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    I'll give you an example if I tell you
    that the circuitry or network in the brain
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    involved in high level strategic thinking,
    planning, decision making, all of that;
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    that network is very different
    to the network
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    for understanding yourself
    and other people.
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    If I tell you that those networks
    are inversely correlated,
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    so when one is active,
    the other is deactive,
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    you kind of see why people
    who spend their lives in their intellect
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    often need a bit of work
    on the other side,
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    because one circuit kind of loses
    its connections there.
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    When I say that to you,
    it's a new way of thinking about
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    why leaders need development,
    and it opens up new connections.
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    So talking about the brain
    does give you a novelty effect,
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    but it's something much more than that.
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    The second reason I find
    the brain is very effective
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    as a way of creating change,
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    is that when you try to get
    people to see something,
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    basically, the word "see" is the key.
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    The tangible is so much easier to see,
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    the tangible is something
    you can access in your mind.
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    If I say, "See an elephant,"
    you can see an elephant,
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    if I say, "See cognitive dissonance,"
    you go, "What?"
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    But if I say, "See a region of the brain,
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    taking all the oxygen and glucose
    from all these other regions,
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    and your prefrontal cortex suddenly
    has very little resources to do much,"
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    you can see that, right?
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    So then you can spot that coming.
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    So the tangible is easier to see,
    it's a well understood fact,
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    and so if you can speak in terms
    of physical aspects of biology,
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    you get more buy-in because people
    get what you're saying, more easily.
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    The third reason is an important one.
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    We get to improve our theories,
    and theories create the world.
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    It says, "Where Earl gets his ideas,"
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    an executive having a shower
    to come up with ideas.
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    Has anyone noticed that you had
    these great insights in the shower?
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    If you noticed, you have them
    maybe when you're swimming, doing laps.
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    Well, it's not the water, but many people
    make this false correlation,
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    and many other false correlations,
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    because we don't have the science
    to understand the theories.
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    It turns out great ideas actually come -
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    we've only just learned this
    in the last couple of years -
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    great ideas come
    when you're able to notice subtle signals,
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    that things like happiness improve that,
    and other things improve that,
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    but it's the able to see subtle signals
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    that actually facilitates great ideas
    from our brain perspective.
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    So we get to improve our theories
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    by getting in
    and studying the brain directly.
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    I'm going to give you some examples
    of some of the surprises
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    that are coming out
    of the enormous body of neuroscience.
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    There are about 50,000
    practicing neuroscientists right now,
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    it's an enormous field.
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    One of the big surprises is
    how limited our attention is,
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    and it comes back to how small
    and fragile the prefrontal cortex is.
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    Some of you probably noticing that now -
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    you're thinking about lunch
    and other things,
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    and finding it hard to focus,
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    some of you distracted try to work out
    what my accent is,
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    it's half American, half Australian,
    just to confuse everyone.
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    But our attention is very limited,
    and it's biological,
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    and really, we do a very small amount
    of quality thinking per day
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    and we need to treat that as an asset.
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    There's a huge amount
    of research in there,
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    quite surprising how limited it is.
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    The second big surprise is
    how wrong we get emotions,
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    there are some cultural things here,
    but it seems to be fairly universal.
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    When people are asked,
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    "What will happen
    if they speak about emotions?"
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    people say that it will make
    those emotions worse,
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    Would you agree with that?
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    So what we do is we don't tend
    to speak about emotions;
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    we tend to try to suppress them,
    try to bottle them up,
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    Actually it's a very good body
    of research saying that
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    if you've got some emotional arousals,
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    speaking about those emotions
    in simple terms,
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    reduces them significantly.
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    But even after people
    have seen those studies,
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    it takes some practice to experience it,
    for people to actually try it,
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    because we've been wired to think
    we shouldn't speak about emotions,
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    actually speaking about them
    reduces the effects of them.
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    So what do we do instead?
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    If we're not speaking about them,
    what do we do?
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    We suppress and we think
    suppression is a great idea.
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    This is where the neuroscience comes in,
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    If you try to suppress an emotion,
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    your limbic system stays at the same level
    of arousal or gets worse,
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    and that level of arousal takes away
    resources from your cognitive functions.
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    So, suppressing emotions
    makes you basically less smart,
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    it also, funny enough,
    kills your memory,
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    if you try to suppress a feeling
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    you want to remember
    what someone else is telling you
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    which explains an enormous amount
    of conflicts in life,
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    at home and everywhere.
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    The third thing is,
    when you suppress emotions,
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    other people's blood pressure goes up.
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    It actually creates a threat response
    in other people,
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    which is quite surprising.
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    We get these things wrong,
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    and as a result we build these theories
    and models and frameworks
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    that actually work against the way
    our biology really functions.
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    And just like we thought the Earth
    was flat once, and now we know it's not,
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    the science and technology can catch up,
    and make quite a change in our society.
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    This is a final thing on emotions;
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    this is a study, a summary of a study
    of about 500 people.
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    They are able to categorize people
    into whether they suppressed emotions
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    or reappraised emotions,
    which is a fantastic strategy.
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    The reappraisal is difficult;
    it requires alot of cognitive resources.
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    You have to look at the situation
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    and look at it
    from a whole other perspective,
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    something that happens
    in a TED conference.
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    Reappraisal, for example, might be
    you're having an argument with someone,
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    and you actually manage to see
    the situation from their perspective.
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    You know how that is? If you're upset,
    it just feels physically impossible.
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    We divided people into two groups:
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    those who suppressed more,
    those who reappraised more.
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    The people who suppressed more
    were dramatically below the average
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    on all these factors,
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    people who reappraised more
    were above.
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    Here is one of the really
    interesting kickers,
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    most of the emotional situations
    we all deal with everyday are internal,
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    it made out of fears, anxieties, concerns;
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    I thought about the fact,
    "Do you have my right or wrong slides?"
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    at least 30 times in the last 24 hours,
    and it takes up space.
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    These internal kind of threats;
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    the more you know about your brain,
    the more you can say to yourself -
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    "Oh, that's just my brain
    doing something crazy,"
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    and you become someone who actually
    reappraises much more about yourself.
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    I was in Chicago last week, talking to
    someone from a large organization,
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    and she was kind of laughing at herself,
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    and I caught her laughing
    at her own experience,
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    and she apologized, and I said,
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    "Oh, no no, actually that's wonderful."
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    Some of the healthiest people
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    are people who are able
    to observe and laugh at themselves.
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    By the way, humor is one of the cheapest
    and most wonderful forms of reappraisal;
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    it takes less resources.
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    We get emotions wrong;
    we don't speak about them;
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    we try to suppress,
    thinking that is the best thing to do,
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    when it comes to working
    with other people,
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    actually, it has some
    surprising consequences.
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    The third set of surprises, is probably
    one of the most significant,
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    and it sort of links to some of the things
    that Barry Schwartz was saying earlier,
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    very inspiring session.
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    We've completely misunderstood
    how important the social world is,
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    you know, that list of job descriptions,
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    we don't see how social the brain is;
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    huge amounts of the brain
    are dedicated to social interactions
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    because we don't survive
    without the social world
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    for the first 10 to 12 years of our lives.
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    So just like a wolf has
    incredible sense of smell,
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    we have incredible sense of exactly
    what's going on in the social world.
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    It's quite surprising.
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    What we're discovering
    about social world is that
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    it's as important as the physical world
    from the brain's perspective.
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    So in the brain if you sense
    there's a threat to your life,
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    you'll react very intensely,
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    but also if you sense a threat to,
    let's say, your status,
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    which is your perception
    in terms of other people
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    you'll also react
    as if your life is threatened,
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    which is why
    when someone says to you,
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    "Can I give you some feedback?"
    we all go, "Oh, my gosh!"
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    and the stomach starts,
    you know how uncomfortable that is.
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    It explains the terrible challenges
    of performance reviews in organizations.
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    The brain is intensely social,
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    and we only can find that out by doing
    studies and putting studies together,
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    we see that the same brain network
    for feeling physical pain,
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    is used for feeling social pain,
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    here's a kind of quirky,
    unexpected outcome of that -
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    if you're feeling ostracized
    and people attacking you; take a tylenol.
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    Tylenol actually reduces social pain;
    it's been studied in controlled studies.
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    The social pain - and these are
    the five elements of social pain
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    that I've been able to weave together -
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    social pain or social pleasures
    are actually the brain's own goals,
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    when we set goals for people,
    like a promotion,
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    what we do is we assimilate these
    into the brain's own goals.
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    The brain has goals, basically,
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    to feel good, to move towards reward,
    which is a dopamine release,
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    to stay away from threat,
    which is a cortisol release, etc.
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    The brain wants to feel
    like we're always getting better,
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    to feel like we understand
    what's going on, to be certain,
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    to feel like we have the choices
    to be autonomous,
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    to feel connected safely with others,
    and to feel like things are fair.
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    What happens in organizations
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    is many managers accidentally
    do all the wrong things,
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    they tell people what they
    should be doing differently,
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    they don't provide clear expectations,
    they don't let people make choices,
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    they don't trust people or open up
    and they treat people unfairly,
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    you get this kind of jackpot of threats
    that literally makes people less smart.
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    But you can use these as motivators,
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    there's a study showing
    that just saying "good job" to someone
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    was activating the same reward circuitry
    at the same level as a financial reward.
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    That just a sense of fairness,
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    and an increasing fairness
    is also activating a deep social reward
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    which is why putting
    social justice programs in organizations
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    kind of makes people feel rewarded.
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    So understanding the brain's own drivers,
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    I think is an extremely
    important objective,
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    if we're going to improve
    our society as a whole.
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    This is a frame that summarizes
    hundreds and hundreds of papers
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    into something that you can kind of see
    it's a SCARF, you can see it,
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    or for the Americans it's a scarf,
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    but you can see it,
    so you can remember it easily,
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    and then you can notice -
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    "Look at that, I just threatened
    that person's status,
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    that's why they're talking all crazy,
    and I should maybe bring this down a bit."
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    So these are some of the surprises
    about the brain,
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    that our attention is very limited,
    we get wrong how emotions work,
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    and we've really misunderstood
    the social world and how important it is.
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    The final one is that attention itself
    creates change in the brain,
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    is that when you focus your attention
    on any particular aspect of experience,
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    you either embed or creates circuits.
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    This has a lot of implications
    if you're trying to create change,
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    you really want to think about
    where your are focusing attention,
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    on what, the past or the future,
    where you are going.
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    So it requires us to be more reflective,
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    to actually notice
    what we're doing with our attention.
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    There's an enormous amount more;
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    it's quite funny talking about the most
    complex thing in the known universe
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    in 12 minutes, I think I'm almost at 13.
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    My fourth reason, I think is
    the most profound and most important -
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    the fourth reason why
    teaching about the brain,
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    or learning about the brain
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    in organizations, in schools,
    even in relationships -
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    the fourth reason it's so helpful
    is quite a deep one.
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    When you understand your brain a bit more,
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    you are able to understand your experience
    and actually have more choices,
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    you're able to catch certain things
    before they unfold;
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    there's a whole interesting
    timing about that,
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    Ultimately what it does is it actually
    creates a tide of mindfulness,
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    you're becoming
    an observer of your behavior,
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    just like this woman in Chicago,
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    you're becoming someone
    who can observe and stand aside,
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    that makes you more reflective,
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    it also surprise me that makes people
    more empathic and more caring.
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    I had dinner last week
    with one of the founders
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    of the mindfulness movement,
    very important figure, Daniel Siegel,
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    and he was sitting
    with the Dalai Lama recently,
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    he told me this story,
    it's a third hand story,
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    but it really hit me.
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    The Dali Lama was saying,
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    we've kind of failed in religion to create
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    a really compassionate, empathic life
    for many many people, and he said,
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    "I hope that science can go a little bit
    further into the Ivory towers perhaps
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    to create greater mindfulness,
    therefore greater empathy."
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    I want to leave you with a challenge
    from Theodore Zeldin, a philosopher,
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    "When will we make the same breakthroughs
    in the way that we relate to each other,
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    as we have made with technology?"
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    I love these technology breakthroughs;
    this is awesome, I absolutely love it,
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    and I want to spend hours
    talking about it.
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    But we've hardly made any improvements
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    in how we relate to each other
    in 30, 50, 100 years.
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    and I think it's time
    to put some focus on that,
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    and really make a difference there.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Learning about the brain changes everything | David Rock | TEDxTokyo
Description:

This talk was given at a local TEDx event produced independently for TED Conferences.
According to David Rock, understanding our brain better helps us reach our potentials by letting us objectively look at us and others.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
14:55
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    you [want to] remember
    what someone else is telling you

    I think it makes more sense if that's [won't] instead of [want to].

    -->
    you won't remember
    what someone else is telling you

    Thanks!

  • I agree, makes more sense by the context.
    I Failed to notice.

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